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A00333 Seven dialogues both pithie and profitable The 1 is of the right vse of things indifferent. 2 sheweth what comfort poperie affordeth in time of daunger. 3 is betweene a good woman and a shrew. 4 is of the conversion of a harlot. 5 is of putting forth children to nurse. 6 is of a popish pilgrimage. 7 is of a popish funerall. By W.B.; Colloquia. English. Selections Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536.; Burton, William, d. 1616. 1606 (1606) STC 10457; ESTC S121852 117,991 172

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vapouring vpward Eut. Your còniecturing is not amisse For the l●…er whereunto the gall cleaueth is in the place of the fire the stomacke is a panne the braine-panne is the top of the high butte or still and so if you will the nose is in the stéede of the spowt Therefore from this mutuall flowing and ebbing of humors groweth whatsoeuer is the cause of any disease euen as diuers humours doe diuersly fall now into the eyes now int●… the stomacke one while into the shoulders another whi●…e into the necke or else-where Whereby you may also perceiue why exce●…siue wine drinkers haue bad memories and why those that feede vppon meates of more pure and subtile●… spirites are not so dull witted And why Coriander helpeth memory and Langwort or Neesewort purgeth the minde and why great fulnesse brings the falling sicknesse which at once deadeth or benummeth all the senses as if they were cast into some déepe fléepe And to concl●…de as too much hunger or thirst in children doth blunt the edge of their wit and memory so too much meate doth make the●… blockish and dull witted if wée may credite Aristo●…le because that little sparke of the minde is as it were ouer whelmed with vndigested matter Fab. Is then the minde a bodily substance that it may bée affected with bodily things Eu●… ●…he very nature of the reasonable soule is not cor●… 〈◊〉 but her original instruments being corrupted her force an●… 〈◊〉 is hin●…ered as it booteth not a wo●…keman to excell in his Art if he want ●…t tooles to worke withall Fab. Of what quantity or shape is the soule Eut. What a ridiculous question is that séeing you confesse it to be without body Fab. I meane a body that may ●…e felt Eut. But those ●…hings are most pe●…t which are not selt as God and Angells Fab. I heare that God and Angells are called spirites but a spirite we feele Eut. The holy Scriptures in vsing this word do but st●…mmer as it were for our rude vnderstanding sake meaning thereby a minde pure and frée from all comerc●… and society of sensible things Fab. What difference then is there betwéene Angells and soules Eut. Euen the same that is betwéene a dew snaile and a shel snaile Fab. Then the body is rather the soules house than the soules instrument Eutrap There is no let to the contrary but that one and the same thing may be called both an instrument a house But of this matter the Philosophers doe not agrée some call the body the soules garment some the soules house some the s●…ules instrument and some the soules harmony Now which soeuer of all these you list to call it it will followe thereupon that the actions of the minde are hindered by the affections of the body First if the body be that to the soule which the garment is to the body how much the garment makes to the health of the body Hercules hath shewed to say nothing of the colours of haires and kindes of skinnes But whether one soule may suffice to we are out many bodies as one body doth to weare out many garments I leaue that to Pythagoras to tell Fabulla It were not amisse if according to the opinion of Pythagoras it were lawfull to change soules as well as garments then in winter a man might haue a fatte body and w●…ll lined and in summer a leane Eut. But I thinke it were not very commodious if as when many garments are worne the body it self at last weareth so many bodies being worne at last the soule should wax old and we are too Fab. No truely Eut. Now as it maketh much to the health and agility of the body to sée with what garment it be clad so is it very materiall what body the soule carrieth about with it Fab. Truely if the body be the garment of the soule I sée many men very diuersly clad Eut. So it is and yet the greatest part of this matter resteth in vs to sée how ●…itly the soule be clothed Fab. Therefore let goe the garment and say something of the house Eutrap I will But lest that I say vnto thée may séeme a fable Fabulla the Lord Iesus himselfe calleth his body a Temple And Peter the Apostle calleth his body a tabernacle And some sticke not to cal the body the soules sepulchre Some call it the mindes priso●… and many call it a Tower Now heare the reasons That minde that is pure in all parts dwelleth in a temple that soule that is not captiue to the loue of corporall things dwelleth in a tabernacle and would willingly remooue out of it if her Commander would call for her that soule that is blinded with most filthy lusts that it can neuer aspire to the wholesome liberty of the Gospel that lieth in a sepulchre But they which painefully wrestle with their sinnes and as yet cannot doe as they would their soules dwell in a prison still crying vnto him that is the deliuerer of all his seruants saying Bring my soule out of priso●… that it may praise thy name O Lord. They which fiercely fight with Sathan watching his sleights who goeth about like a roaring Lion séeking whome hée may deuoure their soule liueth as it were in a Garrison or Campe from whence it is in no wise lawfull to departe without warrant from the Generall and Commaunder of the field Fab. If the body be the soules lodging I sée many whose soules are but sorily lodged Eut. It is very true euen in houses that ●…e 〈◊〉 dropping da●…ke and dus●…ish subiect to all w●…nde and weather ●…moky filthy flegmatique rhumatike torne and ruinous rotten and inf●…cted and yet Cato doth iudge it the first part of happinesse to dwel wel Fab. It were somewhat tolerable if it were lawfull to go out of one house into another Eut. To remoue is not lawful vntill the Landlord that placed the soule shal call for it But though it be not lawfull to let the soule out of her dwelling yet it is very lawfull and fitte too by Art and Care to make the soules dwelling house more commodious a●…d hansome than it is as in houses wée sée the windowes are altered the ground is raised the walles are plaistered the dust is swept out and the roomes are clensed with fire and perfume This to doe in an old body all ruinated and ready to drop downe is most hard But it is to great purpose if a childe be looked vnto as it ought to be ●…rom his birth Fab. You would haue a woman to bee both mother and nurse and Phisitian too Eut. I would so indéede as touching ●…he choice and moderation of meate and drinke and of exercise and of sléepe and bathing and anointing and rubbing and dressing and cloathing How many thinke you are subiect to most gréeuous diseases and vices as the falling-sicknesse lea●…enesse weakenesse ●…afenesse their loines broken their members pulled ●…way their braines weake and their mindes dull and sottish
hath no need of my commendations To the learned and iudicious yea generally to all men he is so wel knowne for his deepe learning and profound iudgement that for the entertainment of th●…se his conferences I needed not but only to haue said Erasmus wrote them For the matter or subiect of them I refer thee to heir seuer all titles Only thus much I thought good to make knowne vnto thee that he fifi Dialogue which is of a woman in Childbed is especially ●…tended against the monstrous and vnnaturall exposing of children to nurses by wanton women and such as hauing dame Nature most beneficiall vnto them doe yet shew themselues both 〈◊〉 Dames 〈◊〉 most cruell mothers to their tender infant whereby many sweete babes which might haue liued and done good ser●…ice both to God and their Prince to the Church Common-wealth are now made away yea cast away by an vntimely death hasted by the vnnaturall dealing of Mothers and Nurse●… And many though th●…y liue yet are marred in the handling and caused to 〈◊〉 out of kind by the vnkinde prouision that is made for them poore babes betweene the nice wanton mother and the vnconscionable greedie nurse Of men that come to their end by vntimely death the saying is that Plures periere crapula quam gladio surffeting killes more then the sword which I thinke to be true But of children that come to their end by vntimely death I suppose I may and that not vnprobably say that more haue miscaried in the nursing then otherwise as shall further appeare by the reasons of this reuerend and learned Authour And for further confirmation thereof marke what I shall tell thee Not yet a yeare since it was my happe being in London to be present at s●…pper in a Merchants house where this matter of putting forth children to nurse was debated Pro contra as they say There was then in presence an ancient graue Matrone and a midwife who openly protested that she knew a Nurse that had taken for greedinesse of gaine three seuerall women children to nurse at one instant and they were not of the meanest sor●… neither and her manner was to goe forth in the morning and come no more in againe till night but to leaue the poore tender Infants in the Cradle togither without any companie or comfort which within a short space by continuall crying and beating themselues one against another for want of food ended their miserable and wofull dayes a thing able to break a heart of flint This midwife being demaunded whether she spake this vpō hearesay or no did protest that she was an eie witnesse thereof her selfe and saw them all three laid forth vpon a boord together The hearing whereof caused some watry eyes and bitter sighs This cruell murtherer answered the Law but she could not giue the poore Infants their innocent blood againe When thou hast aduisedly read th●… learned Dialogue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If by my publishing hereof but one Infant in the world may be preserued or be the better educated my 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ●…ly 〈◊〉 In the rest of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 perceiue how little 〈◊〉 the Papists 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Erasmus as a m●…n of their side 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and reape 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 thy prayers Thine in●… the Lord Iesus●… William Burton The Printer to the Reader COurteous Reader there haue in this impression some faults escaped whereof I must acquite the Author and pleade thy pardon for my selfe he being both absent and vnacquainted with the sodaine publication of his booke and I sometimes mis-led by doubt and difficulty of the copie The number and moment of them is not so great but I hope thy kindenesse will be greater in giuing what thy selfe as being a man doost somtimes neede excuse of errors ❧ A dialogue of Fish-eating both pleasant and profitable wherein are many excellent poyntes of Divinitie discussed but chiefly that of the right vse of thyngs indifferent very necessary for these times The Speakers are onely two 1 Lanio that is a Butcher 2 Salsamentarius that is a Fishmonger Butcher HOw now lusty Fishmonger haue you yet bought you a rope Fishmonger A rope Butcher what to doe Bu. What to do to go hang thy selfe Fish Why man I am not yet weary of my life But. But you will be ere it be long Fish Why Butcher what is the matter But. If you knowe not I wil tell you There is comming towards you a very Saguntine famine as they cal it that will make you euen goe hang your selues Fish Good wordes Butcher let this come to our ennemies how commeth it about that of a Butcher you are so sodainely become a diuiner of such great calamitie But. It is no diuination doe not flatter your selfe the matter is euident and the thing it selfe is already in the open market place Fish You trouble my minde much fhew it mée if you haue any thing But. I will shew it you to your great griefe There is of late come forth an edict from Rome that from henceforth it shal be lawful for euery man to eate what he list And wat then remayneth to you and your order but an insatiable hunger with your rotten salt fish Fish For my part I care not if any man do list to eate snailes or netles let him but is any man forbidden to eate fish But. No but there is libertie graunted to all men to eate flesh that will Fish If this be all then goe thou and hang thy selfe for I hope to gayne more héereafter than euer I haue done But. Yea great comming in but hunger to the full or if you had rather heare more merry newes henceforth you shall liue more cleanely neither shall you vse to wipe your snotty nose which is euer itching with scabbes vpon your arme as you were wont to doe Fish Ha ha now we be come to the toppe the blinde reproacheth the one-eyed I would it were true that you tell me but I am afraide you doe but féede me with a false ioy But. That which I tel you is too true but whereupon do you promise to your selfe greater gaine Fish Because that the world is come to that passe that looke what is most forbidden that men do most of all desire But. And what of that Fish Because more will abstaine from eating of flesh when there is libertie giu●…n to eate it neither will it be counted a daintie banquet indeede where there is no fish as the manner hath béene amongst our forefathers therefore I am glad that the eating of flesh is permitted and I would also that the eating of fish were forbidden for then ●…ould men more gladly buy it then now they do But. Surely a goodly wi●… Fish This I could wish if I respected nothing but the gaine of money as you do for the loue whereof you haue deuoted your grosse flesh deuouring bodie to the infernall spirites But. You should séeme to be all salt by your