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A09915 A notable sermon concerninge the ryght vse of the lordes supper and other thynges very profitable for all men to knowe preached before the Kynges most excellent Mayestye and hys most honorable counsel in hys courte at Westmynster the 14. daye of Marche, by Mayster Iohn ponet Doctor of dyuinity. 1550. Ponet, John, 1516?-1556. 1550 (1550) STC 20177; ESTC S115044 25,346 112

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the bread is transubstanciated that is to say that the substance of the bread is gone and the qualities onely of the breade doeth remayne which opinion is an heresy in logike to saye that accidens may be sine subiecto Some saye the bread is the body and some saye the body is vnder the bread And if a man alledge vnto them the article of our Crede say that that body which was borne of the blessed virgin Mary lyued here in earth .xxxiii. yere suffryd vnder pontius pylat and that honge vpon the crosse and that was dead and buryed That theselfe same body arose agayne the third day frō death no fantastical body but euen thesame fleshe and bone and the selfe same bodye that was felt of Thomas and that it remayneth here .xli. dayes with his disciples after his resurrection from death and that the selfe same body is ascendit into heuen and sitteth at the right hand of God the father that is to saye in the glory of the father and that he shall not come agayne vntyll the latter day when he shall come to iudge the quicke and the dead and to restore all thynges whiche were spoken of by the prophetes accordingly as we reed in the third of the actes they wyll saye constantly that all thys gere is playne false For say they a preste may fetche Christe his manhoode downe from heuen when he wyll before the latter day come with saiynge Hoc est corpus meum Be he neuer so viciose a gentelman that saieth the wordes he hath Christes body at his beck and commandement to bringe hym doune when him lusteth And for the mayntenance of thys there erroneus and Anthechristian opinyon they wyll not styke to saye that Christes body may be in sondry places at one tyme graunting that it may be at Rome at Paris in London in Canterbery and in a thousand other dyuerse places at once Whereas if ye read the scriptures through ye shall neuer fynd that Christes body was in two places at one tyme or that after hys resurreccion it appeared in two sundry places at one tyme. This deuilishe opinion of thers openeth a dore to Martion and the Manicheis who defyed Christes bodye after suche a sorte that they denied it to be of like substance as other mens bodies be Agaynst whych doctryne S. Austen geueth this rule Cauendum est ne it a diuinitatem astruamus hominis ut ueritatem corporis auferamus We must take hede sayeth S. Austen that we doe not so affirme the diuinitie of his manhode that wee take awaye thereby of the trueth of hys body And Saint Austen doeth plainelye affyrme that thys body muste be in one place of heauen whereas it pleaseth hys dyuine maiestye to be And he sayeth in the .30 treatyse vpon Iohn .xvi. Corpus enim in quo resurrexit in uno loco esse oportet The bodye wherein he dyd ryse must be in one place I am not ignoraunt that the prynted copy of saynt Austen hath in that place Vno loco esse potest that is maye be in one place But I praye you what is he that douteth of that thing that Christes body maye be in one place Surelye Saynt Austen woulde neuer haue vsed so vayne a sentence in so weightye a matter and it is playne in the decrees De consecratione distinctionei ca. Prima quidem heresis And in the maister of the sentence in the fourth booke distinctione decima that S. Austen is faslye prynted in that pointe For in both these places ye shal haue these plain wordes Corpus enim in quo resurrexit in uno loco esse oporter The body of Christ in which he arose must be in one place These two of there owne schole be sufficiente witnesses to me and to all men that S. Austen was playnely of thys opinion that Christes bodye muste be at one tyme in one place and can not be at one tyme in sundrye places In uno loco esse oportet It must be in one place The best waye to confute this sorte of men is to set the one of them agaynst another him that sayth that Christes body is ther naturaliter naturally against thē that say it is the natural body of Christ but not naturallyter And them whiche sayeth that there is a transubstanciation in the Sacramēt agaynst them that say that ther is the body and the bread together And them that say the mouse may eat the Sacrament agaynst theim that saye the mouse cā not eat it And them that say it may moule agaynst them that say it cā not moule And so shal we ease our selfes of a great deale of paynes in sufferinge the one of them to cōfute the other who as they haue many hedes so haue thei many wittes and their is euē as great a confusion amōgest them as their was amongest the tonges in babylon wherfore whē they striue to hit the matter they lightly alwayes misse euē as men that threshe heynes blyndfyld But ye wyll say to me Syr ye haue told vs what some saye but what say yow Forsoth Sir I say as I haue sayeth that Christes blessed body is not eaten with oure teeth so grosly and so carnally as they take it to be But I beleue that that very body whiche was borne of the virgine Mary and was crucifyed ded and buried and that very body whiche arose agayne the third day and that was felt of Thomas after Christes resurrection that it had fleshe and bones otherwise then spirites hath that whych dyd eat and drynk with the duciples after his resurrectiō And that whiche was seen of the disciples when it ascendid into heauen and that whiche sitteth at the right hand of God the father accordynge to the article of our Creed I beleue I say that that body is in heuē only and is not in the earth accordyngly as Saint Augusten sayth in the 50 treatyse vpon Iohn Conuersatus est secundutu corporis presentiam quadragintaa diebus cum discipulis suis eis deducentibus uidendo ac sequendo ascendit in celum non est hic ibi enim sedet ad dextram patris That is to say He was here conuersant wyth the presence of his body forty dayes with his disciples and they goyng with him and folowynge him he ascendid into heuē in their sight and he is not here for he sitteth ther on the right hand of his father By his diuinitie his godhed hys diuyne mayestye hys power and his prouidence he is here and euery where But his manhod is a creature and is in heuen only and ther shall he remayne vntyll the latter day And yet is it trew that Christes very body is present at the mynistracion of the lords supper Yea euen flesh blud and bone as he was borne of the virgyn Mary Why but what mean I to say so Thys geer semeth to be quiet contrary to al that euer I haue sayth befor