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A52606 A brief history of the Unitarians, called also Socinians in four letters, written to a friend. Nye, Stephen, 1648?-1719.; Biddle, John, 1615-1662.; Firmin, Thomas, 1632-1697. 1687 (1687) Wing N1505; ESTC R37735 58,564 186

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mortal Life he raised and changed the Body of Lazarus which was corrupted that the Power by which he restored Lazarus to Life again was not our Lords own proper Power but God's that is the Fathers is plainly intimated by our Lord himself John 11. 41. Father I thank thee that thou hast heard me c. Almighty God can lodge even in dry Bones a Power of restoring the dead 2 Kings 13. 21. see also what hath been said on John 5. 19. 20. John 8. 56 58. Abraham rejoiced or desired to see my Day and saw it Before Abraham was I am Or as 't is rendred by the Syriac Nonnus and Grotius I was Answ 1. Abraham saw Christ's Day in the Spirit of Prophecy he saw it as coming not as present he foresaw as he desired the time when it should be 2. St. Austin has confessed that Christ is here said to be before Abraham not actually but in the Counsel Decree and Ordination of God. And so St. Peter explains this matter 1 Pet. 1. 20. Who verily was fore-ordained from the Foundation of the World but was made manifest in these last times In like manner at Rev. 13. 8. Christ is called the Lamb slain from the Foundation of the World. The Words are Whose Names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the Foundation of the World. Every one sees that Christ could be no otherways slain from the Foundation of the World but in the Counsel and Decree of God. See more such Instances on John 17. 5. 'T is true the Jews did not apprehend in what sense our Lord meant he was before Abraham but neither did he intend or care they should for finding them averse from Truth and Piety he often so spake to some of them as to perplex and affront their Blindness and Arrogance yet more and not to instruct them see for this Luke 8. 10. 21. John. 10. 30. I and the Father are one Answ Not one God but as Friends are said to be one Thus our Lord explains himself John 17. 11. Keep them whom thou hast given me that they may be one as we are The Disciples could be one no otherways than as Friends are one namely in Affection and Design neither with one another nor with God. Ver. 22. The Glory which thou gavest me i. e. the Power of doing Miracles I have given them that they may be one as we are one 22. John 10. 33. Thou being a Man makest thy self God or a God. Answ It appears they lied by our Saviours Answer at ver 36. Say ye of him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent into the World Thou blasphemest because I said I am the Son of God. Had our Lord been more than the Son of God he would have owned his Dignity when they charged him with Blasphemy for saying those things from which it might by their strained Consequences be inferred that he made himself a God. Camero on this Text ingenuously confesses that in this Context our Lord doth not make himself God He adds that times and circumstances required that the Revelation of this Mystery should be deferred till our Lord's Resurrection and Ascension into Heaven In which saying he gives up to the Socinians all the Texts of the Evangelists 23. John 10. 38. The Father is in me and I in him Answ 'T is also said 1 John 4. 16. He that dwelleth in Love i. e. exerciseth Love and Charity dwelleth in God and God in him Therefore Christ and Christians are said to be in God and God in them by their mutual Love or because of their mutual Love. 24. John 12. 41. These things said Isaias when he saw his Glory and spake of him Answ see on Isai 6. 1 8 9. 25. John 14. 1. Ye believe in God believe also in me Answ Our Lord has himself interpreted this John 12. 44. He that believeth on me believeth not on me but on him that sent me 26. John 14. 7 9. If ye had known me ye would have known my Father also and from henceforth ye know him and have seen him He that hath seen me hath seen the Father how sayest thou then shew us the Father Answ It is also said Luke 10. 16. He that heareth you heareth me 't is there farther added He that despiseth you despiseth me and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me Shall we now infer that the Disciples and Ministers of Christ are Christ nay are him also that sent Christ namely God The Truth therefore is when we are said to know see hear despise God in knowing seeing hearing or despising Christ or his Ministers the meaning only is that Christ and his true Ministers being the Ambassadours and Messengers of God and revealing to us his Nature and Will they are so far forth to be esteemed one with God and in seeing and hearing them we see and hear him as much as the invisible God can be seen or heard in this mortal Life 27. John 14. 14. If ye ask any thing in my Name I will do it Answ The obvious meaning is if ye pray for any thing to God using my Name I will cause it to be done for you by my Intercession the general Intercession that I will make for all good Christians Heb. 7. 25. He is able to save them that come unto God by him i. e. that pray to God in his Name seeing he ever liveth to make Intercession for them 28. John 16. 8 13 14. When he the Comforter or Spirit is come he will reprove the World of Sin He shall not speak of himself He shall receive of mine and shew it to you Here the Spirit is plainly spoken of as a Person Answ 1. Of those that are Vnitarians all the Arians and very many Socinians do acknowledg that the Holy Spirit is a Person chief of the Heavenly Spirits prime Minister of God and Christ because he is here called the Comforter or Advocate and said to hear speak and teach and elsewhere to interceed for us But they add that this very Context in telling us ver 13. He will guide you into all Truth for he shall not speak of himself Sufficiently sheweth that he is not God or a God. For it were intolerable to say of God he shall lead you into all Truth for he shall not speak of himself the contrary is true of God he shall lead you into all Truth For he shall speak of himself 2. But more generally the Socinians say that Actions proper to Persons are by a Figure ascribed to things and even to Qualities of things not only in Holy Scripture but in all Writers God's Commandments are called Counsellours Psal 119. 24. Understanding is said to lift up her Voice Prov. 8. 1. Wisdom to build her House and hew out her seven-Pillars Prov. 9. 1. Charity to think no evil 1 Cor. 13. 5. Water and Blood to bear Witness 1 John 5. 8. The Stone set up by Joshua to hear all the Words
of the Lord Josh 24. 27. Are these things Persons Is it not evident that Actions proper to Persons are ascribed to them as well as to the Holy Spirit or Power and Inspiration of God by the Figure called Prosopopeia Briefly We ought to conceive thus of this matter a great Effusion of God's Inspiration and Power being to be given to the Disciples that it might be a continual Director and Guide when the Lord Christ was no more personally with them therefore this Guide is by the aforesaid Figure spoken of in such terms as if it were some Doctor Teacher and Advocate Hence it is said to reprove the World to guide into all Truth to intercede for us namely because it suggesteth Prayer and Affection in Prayer also not to speak of himself but to speak what he shall hear from God to receive of Christ's that is receive of God the Remainder of Christ's Doctrine and teach it to the Apostles For 't is to be noted that our Lord left some things to be taught by this Inspiration of God because the Disciples were not capable to hear and believe them till they had seen the great Miracles of our Lords Resurrection and Afcension into Heaven John 16. 12. I have yet many things to say to you but ye cannot bear them now Howbeit when the Spirit of Truth is come he shall guide you into all Truth The Spirit that guided the Apostles into all Truth was it not the meer Inspiration of God It is for the same Reason and by the same Figure that this Power and Inspiration of God in the Apostles is said to bear Witness John 15. 26. to search Mysteries 1 Cor. 2. 10. 11. to distribute Gifts 1 Cor. 12. 2. to appoint Bishops Acts 20. 28. to glorify Christ John 16. 14. Finally It appeared in the Form of a Dove on Christ and of Cloven Tongues on the Apostles Matth. 3. 16. Acts 2. 3 4. Because God conveyed this Divine Energy to the Lord Christ and to the Apostles in these outward Symbols which were fit Emblems of the Quality of the Gifts then bestowed The Dove signified the mild and peaceable Spirit of Christ and that the Power then conveyed to him should not be for the Damage or Hurt of Mankind The Tongues denoted that the Apostles did then and there receive the Gift or Faculty of speaking with many Tongues But what sense can the Trinitarians make of these things they say the Spirit is a Person and God did God receive and assume the Shape of a Dove that is of a Brute What hinders but that they may believe all the Transformations in the Metamorphosis of Ovid 29. John 16. 15. All things that the Father hath are mine Answ 1. St. Paul hath said as much of every Christian 1 Cor. 3. 21 22. All things are Yours things present things to come all are yours 2. All things in this Text of St. John are all things relating to the Christian Faith Doctrine and Discipline for it follows Therefore said I He the Spirit shall take of mine and shew it to you The meaning of the whole Passage is all things relating to the Doctrine and Discipline of the Christian Church which the Father hath in his Mind and Design are mine that is are known to me and shall for the most part of them be ordered by my self as for the rest which I my self do not discover or order the Spirit shall receive it and shew it to you 30. John 17. 5. Glorify me with thine own self with the Glory I had with thee before the World was Answ 1. St. Austin and many other learned and Orthodox Interpreters not only grant but contend that the meaning here is Let me now actually receive that Glory with thy self which I had with thee in thy Decree and Design before the World was This Interpretation is confirmed by this that the Sufferings of Christ were to precede his actual Glory 1 Pet. 1. 11. Searching what and what manner of time the Spirit did signify when it testified before-hand the Sufferings of Christ and the Glory that should follow 2. As 't is here said The Glory that I had with thee before the World was so 't is said 2 Cor. 5. 1. We have a Building of God an House not made with Hands Where we have is we have it in God's Decree and Intention or it is prepared for us 2 Tim. 1. 9. Grace was given us in Christ before the World was Where again was given to us is was given in God's Decree and Intention Therefore so also we may understand that Christ had Glory before the World was 31. John 17. 10. All mine are thine and thine are mine Answ It appears by the foregoing verse and by what follows that Christ speaks of such as were or should be his Disciples His meaning is all that are my Disciples are of thy giving to me and still remain thine and all that are true Servants and Lovers of God readily become mine that is Disciples to me 32. John 17. 24. For thou lovedst me from the Foundation of the World. Answ None can deny that God loved all the Elect from the Foundation of the World. To God all things are present not only what is past but what is to come is present to the Divine Mind and Knowledg 33. John 20. 28. Thomas answered and said unto him my Lord and my God Or O my Lord and O my God! For 't is an Attic Vocative Answ 1. Nestorius Patriarch of Constantinople was of Opinion that these Words were not designed to Christ but to God. For though the Evangelist saith Thomas answered and said unto him i. e. to Christ O my Lord and O my God. Yet the Exclamation might be addressed to God as it's Object tho it was also an Answer to our Saviour or in Answer to our Saviour and to what he had said at ver 27. Or if the Words were addressed to our Saviour also it may be admitted as true what others say here Namely 2. When Thomas had felt the Prints of the Spear and Nails in our Saviour's Side and Hands and was thereby fully satisfied that he was indeed risen again he breaks forth into this Exclamation the first part of which he directed to Christ the other to God. O my Lord are Words of Congratulation to our Saviour And O my God! Words of Admiration and Praise to God. 34. Acts 5. 3 4. Why hath Satan filled thine Heart to lie to the Holy Ghost Thou hast not lied unto Men but unto God. Answ Some of the most celebrated Interpreters among the Trinitarians have owned that this Text ought to be thus understood Why hast thou lied to the Holy Ghost i. e. to us Apostles who have thou knowest the Holy Spirit or Inspiration of God in us Thou hast not lied unto Men but unto God i. e. thou hast not hereby lied to Men only or chiefly but to God who is in us by his Spirit and Inspiration This