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A34470	A blow at the serpent; or a gentle answer from Madiston prison to appease wrath advancing it self against truth and peace at Rochester. Together with the work of four daies disputes, in the Cathedral of Rochester, in the Countie of Kent, betweene several ministers, and Richard Coppin, preacher there, to whom very many people frequentlie came to hear, and much rejoyced at the way of truth and peace he preached, at the same whereof the ministers in those parts began to ring in their pulpits, saying, this man blasphemeth, ... Whereupon arose the disputes, at which were some magistrates, some officers, and souldiers, peaceable and well-minded, and very many people from all parts adjacent, before whom the truth was confirm'd and maintained. The whole matter written by the hearers, on both sides. Published for the confirmation and comfort of all such as receive the truth in the love of it. By Richard Coppin, now in Maidston Prison for the witness of Jesus. Twenty five articles since brought against him by the ministers, as blasphemie, and his answers to them, how he was	Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659.	1656 (1656)	Wing C6094; ESTC R215454	85,329	113

and such a one enjoyes it as possessingly and the other doth not and that makes it more especially unto him and so he have a greater assurance then the other hath because he trusteth in the living God who is the Saviour of all men of which all he knows himself one and so believes it upon a sure ground till which time I could not assure my self Article 15. That if there be but one man of all that ever were or shall be in the world damned no man can assuredly know that his soule shall be saved Answer And if Christ were not the Saviour of all men and I hear but of one man that shall be damned to all eternity and this man not yet pointed out as knowne from all the rest to be the man and Christ come to save the worst of sinners what full assurance then can I have of my savlation more then another of his salvation but some doubts and some feares will arise within me who shall be that man that is to be damned till I see a pardon come forth for all men to be saved and then I knowing my selfe to be one of that all cannot but have a good assurance of my owne salvation this axperince-in me doth witness as also saith the Scripture that I can no more judge any man to eternall damnation but that which is not of God in man Therefore who art thou O man that judgest another and dost the same things thy selfe for wherein thou judgest another thou condemnest thy selfe for thou that judgest dost the same things and who hath made thee to differ from another that thou shouldest be saved and not another wherefore think not better of thy selfe then of another for there is no respect of Persons with God that is more accepted with him but only Christ in all and all in Christ for he hath concluded all men as men under sin and unbeliefe that he might have mercy upon all and then O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God how unsearchable are his judgment and his wayes past finding out for who hath knowne the mind of God or who hath bin his councellor for of him and to him and through him are all things to whom be glory for ever Article 16. That the unpardonable sin of the Holy Ghost is nothing but flesh opposing and quenching the spirit till Christ come into the soule and destroy the flesh Answer To explaine this the Holy Ghost is the spirit the sin against the Holy Ghost is the opposition and war that is made against the Spirit by the fleshly carnall mind for the flesh wa 〈…〉 against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh and these are contrary one to another in man and so saith Paul I find saith he a warring within me that when I would do good evill is present with me 't is no more I that do it but sin that dwelleth in me for with my mind I serve the Law of God though with my flesh the Law of sin and this flesh opposing the Spirit is for a time in every man as a man of sin ruling in them till Christ come into the soule and destroy it which shall never be forgiven in this world nor in the world to come but is the only enemy that God will destroy in man Article 17. That when a soule is once regenerated then he is free from all sin that the flesh is quite destroyed Answer Regeneration is a new birth and the new birth is to be in Christ a new creature free from all sin without which man nor his prayers nor any thing is accepted of God for he heareth not sinners and without holiness no man shall see God but if the Son shall make you free then are you free indeed and him that is in Christ is a new creature old things are past away and all things are become new by the washing of Regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost Article 18. That no man shall receive any good by any good that he doth that it shall no way further his salvation Answer If man by his good works could merit heaven then salvation by Christ were made void or if any thing of man which is imperfect were to joyn with Christ in the work of salvation then mans salvation were not all by Christ but by man and would so far be imperfect and then man might boast and say he was able to help Christ to save his soul and so robing Christ of his work would rob him of his honor also but not of works saith Paul lest any man should boast neither by any other name under heaven but by Jesus Christ is any man saved that no flesh might glory in his presence but he that glories let him glory in the Lord that his soul was saved by the Lord Article 19. That no man shall receive any hinderance by any sin he committeth that shall do him no hurt Answer If any sin of man should hinder mans salvation by Christ then that sin would appear to be too strong for Christ to conquer and then no man could be saved for there is no sin but every man is guiltie of for all have sinned and all are guiltie but this I say with the Prophet Elihu that his bad works may hurt a man as he is and his good works may profit men but shall no way profit the salvation of his soul But because good works are good to men therefore would I have all men observe and do them doing unto others as they would others should do to them which is the sum of the whole Law for he that loveth God will also love his Brother Article 20. That our Lord Jesus Christ is the three persons in the Trinity God blessed Father Son and Holy Spirit and that the blessed Trinity is but three manifestation of God Answer The blessed Trinity Father Son and Spirit I acknowledg the Father as begeting the Son as begotten and the Holy Ghost uniting as being the compleat union of all three together in one spirit where they all meet as copartners together in one work that what the one is the other is the same and what the one doth the other doth the same as all but one God manifesting himself under various appearances of Father Son and Spirit to the creatures apprehension Article 21. That our Lord Jesus Christ himself was the Leper that was cleansed and returned to give thanks Luke 17. 15. Answer I say not that Christ was a Leper but there were ten Lepers that were cleansed and one of them when he saw himself cleansed turned back and glorified God and Christ saith Where are the other nine There are not found that returned to give glory to God save this stranger and who was this stranger but Christ in that man that gave glory to God for the work done as Christ saith Father I have glorified thee on

take it up again And this Commandment he received from his Father to do for us Now he that must take on him the sins of the people must take the curse on him also therefore was Christ accursed for us Gal. 3. 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law by being made a curse for us as it is written Cursed is every one that hangeth on a Tree but Christ his own self did bear our sins in his bodie on the Tree And friends I call you all friends though enemies and brethren though strangers for I hate no man but do love all as Christ my Elder Brother hath given me Commandment and shewed me an example that I should follow his steps I say there is no believer now but once he was an unbeliever and there is no sheep now but once he was a Goat at Gods left hand and under the curse till Jesus Christ the blessed Redeemer freed you from it and blessed you by it at his Fathers right hand Now while man is an unbeliever the Scripture saith he is condemned He that believeth not is condemned already so that the best of us all are in a prison in the state of condemnation and in hell under the curse one as well as another till Christ the Lord Jesus doth free us from it by breaking open the prison doors and puting himself into this prison hell and condemnation with us standing there in our steeds to receive that curse and condemnation which by the law is due to us without him and so deliver us and himselfe together as one man according to those Scriptures he was himselfe taken from prison and from judgment he was given for a Covenant of the people and for a light to the Gentiles to open the blind eyes to bring out the prisoners from the prison and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house that they might be where he is all comes out with him he leaves not one behinde but delivers himself and them together and then shuts up the doors and locks in the divell and so keeps the keyes of death and of hell saying Feare not Roswell Christ was never in hell Coppin Sir will you denie your own Faith which you have so often confessed in your Creed that he descended into hell Robison What do Christ goe into hell to turne us out before him and then come out himselfe Coppin As we are first in hell before we are in Heaven so he comes into hell to us and with himselfe brings us out and carries us to Heaven according to those Scriptures He hath raised us up together and made us sit together in Heavenly places in Christ Jesus and together with my dead body shall they arise and I saith he if I be lifted up will draw all men unto me But take this with you also as a bone to pick against the next time that as you are unbelievers before you are believers so are you to be damned before you are saved and in hell before you are in Heaven for the way to Heaven is through hell He that hath an eare to heare let him heare DISPUTE II. The Heads of a Dispute between Daniel French Minister of Stroud and Richard Coppin on the nineth of December being the Sabbath Day after Morning Sermon in the Cathedral of the City of Rochester Mr. Coppin coming into the place to Preach his Morning Sermon and Mr. French having left his own Congregation and being there did before Sermon propound to Mr. Coppin a question as follows FRench Sir on Munday last in the Dispute with Mr. Rosewell I did hear somthing from you which did seem very strange to me and I came now desiring to be satisfied Coppin The Truth is alwayes a stranger to those that are strangers to that and know it not till the Truth hath made them free For I was a stranger saith Christ and ye took me not in and 't is the Truth it self that must satisfie you and not I. French I desire to speak somthing to the people after you have done Coppin Truly the time will be but short after I have done therefore if you have any thing to say to me you had better take a day to your self some other time and I shall be willing to give you a meeting provided it be in love and for edification to the people French I professe before the Lord I have no hatred nor prejudice to any mans person but their opinions Coppin Then it seems those opinions which are not one with yours you hate and judg to be wrong and your own only to be right but I must tell you I am not of your spirit for I hate no mans person nor opinion but am reconciled to all men in their several judgements and opinions leaving them all to the Lord knowing that the manifestations of God are various to some more and to some lesse but as every man hath received Jesus Christ the Lord so let him walk speak and act standing still in that light which the Lord hath enlightened him withal and be content with his wages till the Lord shall give him more French 'T was never well with us since there were such new lights Coppin 'T is true that which you call new light will out-shine your old lights and yet no new light but the same that ever was so he proceeded to Morning Sermon CHAP. IIII. Christ no sinner mans nature redeemed what 's meant by the grave death hell and hell fire how man is in it and how long FRench Having some opportunity I shall declare semthing among you to shew you the errors of this man Mr. Coppin how he hath abused Jesus Christ by saying he took on him our sinful nature as hath been delivered from his own mouth in the last Dispute and now which I shall shew to the contrary from severall Scriptures that there was no sin in him and endeavour to undeceive you of this error first in Heb. 7. 26. For such an High-Priest became us who is holy harmlesse undefiled separate from sinners and made higher then the heavens Here you may see he had no sin so in 1 Pet. 1. 19. We are redeemed with the precious Blood of Christ as of a Lamb without blemish and without spot still you see he was without sin verse 23. Being born again not of corruptible seed but of incorruptible by the Word of God therefore there was no sin in the nature of Christ as appears by these Scriptures and I think I have given you Scriptures enough now and yet I have more Coppin But Sir let me answer this first you said you came for satisfaction and not to preach therefore pray let me answer as to the holinesse of Christ himself as he is in himselfe the Son and Seed of God so he is holy and without sin but our nature which he was to offer up and make holy was sinful and unholy before he took it

in due time it shall be manifest to all for there is but the want of faith in men to believe it which is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen by which all men are assured and draw nigh unto God which in due time shall be manifest to all men Now if this Spirit of Faith and faithfull Witness the Lord Jesus thus manifest in men for the salvation of their soules will not keep men from licentiousness there is nothing will for which seriously consider the Apostles words in Titus 2. 11. We were wicked and sinfull saith he as well as others but when the grace of God which bringeth salvation to all men had appeared to us teaching us that denying all ungodliness and worldly lusts we should live soberly and righteously in this present world speaking evill of no man for we our selves also were sometimes foolish disobedient deceived serving divers lusts and pleasures living in malice and envie and hating one another as well as others but after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to his mercie he saved us how why by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the holy Ghost and so saith Peter see that you lay aside all malice guile and hipocrisies and envyings and evill speakings and as new born babes desire the sincere milk of the Word that you may grow thereby if so be you hav● tasted that the Lord is gracions CHAP. XVII The complaint of Ministers to Magistrates against those that Preach without Orders from the Vniversitie the dutie of Magistrates not to forbid any but to reprove such complainers AGaine you say you would have men learn and study the Scriptures but not to Preach of them but sure that is for feare your trade of Preaching should goe downe and you to keep it up will cry out to the Magistrates to forbid and suppress all that declare any thing of the love of God to their soules and have not the like Orders from the Universities as you have concerning which read Numbers 11. there was Moses a Magistrate of the Lord and the Lord commanded him to gather unto him seventy of the men of Israell to assist him in the work of the Lord and to bring them up to the Tabernacle where they should receive the Spirit and to prophesie Now there were two men which did not come up to the Tabernacle as the rest did but tarried behind in the Camp and there received the Spirit and Prophesied whereof complaint was made to Moses of them saying Eldad and Medad doe Prophesie in the Camp my Lord Moses forbid them why saith Moses enviest thou for my sake I would all the Lords people were Prophets and that he would powre his Spirit upon them though they came not up to the Tabernacle yet having the Spirit let them prophesie So now if any man do declare any thing of God which hath not been at the Universitie woe he is immediatelie cried out against to the Magistrate as a blasphemer to be forbidden but God is not tied to place nor persons nor learning it is not your your Schools will make you Ministers of the Gospel no it is the Spirit of the Lord that doth make a Minister of the Gospel and it was the Spirit that made Christ a Minister for saith he the Spirit of the Lord is upon me therefore will I preach glad tydings of the Gospel and as everie man hath received the Spirit so let them administer without any forbiding Now you Magistrates you are set up for the punishment of evill doers and for the praise of them that doe well but are you like that godly man Moses a Magistrate of the Lords to discern the good which is to be praised and the evill which is to be punished and so to doe justice and righteousness to countenance Godliness if you were you would fordid none to Preach that speaks their experience of the things of God but would incourage all men and wish all the Lords people were Prophets and that he would powre his Spirit upon them and so like Moses reprove any that would have them forbid and then you would appear to be Magistrates of the Lord as Moses was and to doe the worke of God as Moses did for which the Lord instruct you all CHAP. XVIII A childs condition is Christs Kingdome their coming to him his hand laid on them they blessed by him of his arm to all men and when AGaine there is one thing more which you have said and that I must open That is you say that thousands of Children are now in hell for their originall sin which is a trouble to many people to heare such things asserted therefore what the Lord may discover to me at this time concerning this thing that will I declare to you That when the Lord Jesus would declare unto his disciples who were subjects fit for the Kingdome of God he takes a little child in his armes and sets him in the midst of them saying except you become as this child you cannot enter into the Kingdome of Heaven that is to become a child in the knowledg of things below Christ to know no more sin nor divell then a child doth and to be as meek and as humble as innocent and as harmlesse as a child is now Christ tells them they must be borne againe into a childs condition that is to be little even as nothing in their owne wisdome and not to know themselves able to act themselves forth in any thing neither in thought word or deed but in all things to be acted by another even God and this Spirituall birth Nicodemus a Ruler among the Jewes was ignorant of saying unto Christ How can a man be borne when he is old can he enter the second time into his Mothers womb and be born no saith Christ not so but except you be borne of the Spirit of Regeneration and the new birth and so become as a little child to know no evill sin nor divell nor any thing of selfe wisdome knowledge or righteousness which he was concieved in by that Mother the flesh or carnall mind but to be as one dead in all old things borne by that Mother and liveing againe in a new life to behold all things made new in him and Christ knew that a little child was the fitest subject he could compare a soule unto whereby he might know himselfe a subject fit for the Kingdome of God free from all sin Againe there were some that brought little children unto Christ that he should touch them and his Disciples reproved those that brought them and Christ said suffer little children to come unto me and forbid them not for of such is the Kingdome of God this Scripture I know is brought by the Ministers to prove the baptizeing of children with water though I denie

it not to them that are free to do it though here were none of them baptized by Christ for he baptized not but his Disciples and they baptized no children but onely such persons as would then be under Johns administration of water which was onely to last Johns time and then to be made void and people did thinke then as some doe now that unlesse their children did recieve baptisme they shall not inherit the Kingdome of God therefore would say Oh give them that they come for lest they should die before they had it Now saith Christ who will forbid a little child that he should not inherit the Kingdome of God I say let such come to me for of such is the Lords Kingdom and they come to me as to their Saviour their Lord and Master therefore forbid them not though they were never baptized with water for they are subjects already fited for the Kingdome of God as a Kingdome of righteousness meekness truth and love having in them no unrighteousness as pride lying and hatred but they like Christ doe know noe sin being not borne in sin till they have the knowledg thereof and oh that all men were become such children free from all sin and so receive the Kingdome of God as a little child Againe he took them up in his armes laid his hands on them and blessed them and this he did to let the people know that they are the blessed of the Lord and that they are within the compass of his armes as being never out but always lodging in his bosom of goodness mercy love and favour as being heires of his Kingdome And of this arme God saith all the day long have I stretthed it forth to a disobedient and gainsaying people to bring them to this state of a little child into meekness and love from sin and rebellion and when this hand of the Lord shall thus come to be laid on any of you then shall you be as a weaned child from the brest of your owne haughtie and laughtie Spirit by which you were nursed up into the state of rebellion against God and of this the Prophet saith who hath belived our report and to whom is the arme of the Lord revealed speaking of Jesus Christ the arme of God that took from us all our sins and laid upon himselfe as 't is written he hath laid on him the iniquities of us all and by which arme Daniel when he lay with his face on the ground was raised up upon the knees and palmes of his hands and from thence to stand upright upon his feet and when he knew it was by the hand of the Lord he stood trembling that is all things of himselfe trembled in himselfe when he stood upright in the Lord Now when this hand is laid on you and doe but touch you the first and second time which is the first and second coming of Christ in manifestation to the soule then shall you stand upright in the Lord and be for none but the Lord and saith Christ feare not for I have the keyes of the house of David which is Heaven and I have the keyes of death and of hell and I can open and none can shut and shut and none can open therefore feare none of those things which thou shalt suffer for behold saith Christ I know thy works and tribulation and the divell shall cast some of you into prison that you may be tryed and you shall have tribulation for a time but be thou faithfull unto death and I will give thee a Crowne of life therefore feare nor for I having the keyes will not suffer you to be shut up any longer then I please but will break open prisons and prison doores saith the Lord and all this is done by his laying his hand upon us and blessing of us therefore henceforth judg charitably of all men in all conditions and no more judge any childe to condemnation that knowes no sin nor Devil but rather this that the Lords mercy is over all his works and will lose nothing of his own Rosewell I desire to have no more to do with this man you see I hope what his aime and end is in all his discourse You say we would hide knowledge from the people but I wish all men did know as much of good as I doe provided I did know no lesse then I doe and I have taken a great deal of pains in my private Studies and publique endeavours for that knowledge I have and if I know any easier way I would spare my paines You labour to bring all men off from our principles of Religion therefore know there is many hundreds of able Ministers and thousands of good Christians which are furnished with arguments against you and all the Jesuites in the world for my part I am not worthy to carry their books after many of them and I say you are a shame to the world and the Turks and Papists may laugh at us to see our division in our Church and I would not have this Auditorie juggled out of their Faith and if any man hath given any incouragement to such a Blasphemer as this is let them be humbled for it and do so no more and I shall Preach against it to my utmost endeavour for he doth overthrow all Ordinances of Baptisme and Sacraments which our Antient Fathers have used which he saith are not necessarie to salvation since Christ and so is an enemy to God Psalme 21. 8. I will end with this Thine hand shall finde out thy enemies that hate thee thou shalt make them as a fiery Oven in the time of thine anger the Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath and the fire of hell shall devoure them CHAP. XIX Of Baptism how man is a fiery Oven of the fire and fuel that is to be burnt the Oven cleansed man living in it and how COppin That which I declare concerning Baptisme is that they have no ground from the Lord Jesus Christ by precept nor example to baptize with water Gaman a Anabaptist Let me speak now a word or two because you deny all Water-Baptisme Coppin Pray let me make an end with one first and then if you have any thing to say speak on but I say Baptisme with water upon any subject hath no ground from Christ whether by example nor command to be used since the Death of John being then fulfil'd by Christ and yet I denie it to none whose tender conscience doth desire it for I am become all to all that I win them to the truth as it is in Jesus through my love to them and the manifestation of Christ in them Rosewell Capt. Smith Pray let 's have done Robison I think you will never have done Coppin So far as you speak I must answer and there is one thing more therefore pray have patience for I must answer to this Scripture by him hinted in Psalm 21. 8. 9.

to God glory in the highest And O how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of those which bring tydings of peace and say to Sion thy God raigneth thy warfare is accomplished and thy sin is pardoned and this Gospel did Christ preach and command to be preached to every creature under heaven as the work of his Ministerie Rosewell He doth maintain the salvation of all and doth condemn others which do not so you may plainly see now how you are misled and I hope you are all abundantly satisfied in it if it were not to give satisfaction to some I would not have put my self to this trouble to have discoursed with such a man in whose forehead Blasphemy is written in Capital Letters he that runs may read it Coppin Seeing you cannot tell how to call me bad enough as you think therefore I will give you a little more before you go and catch what you can that is that no man can be assured of his own salvation except he see the same salvation in the same Saviour for all men as well as for himself which is to love his Neighbour as himself Rosewell Better and better Coppin For Jesus Christ did die and pay a price for all men one as well as another and if there be but a few men saved and the greatest part damned to eternitie as you say there is what assurance then can there be to any for all were sinners and if there were but one man to be so damned how could any man assuredly know except he believe this but that he himself might be that one man Rosewell Blessed be God which doth so discover him to us his Elder Brother which went before him was more subtil not to discover those Blasphemies which lay hid in him but in you the devil appears in his colours and in his Stage-play terms Coppin I have not yet said any evil of you though you are pleased to raile at me for speaking the truth freelie Rosewell It is not judging nor railing to call a Blasphemer a Blasphemer though I will not deny but there may be something spoken of a weak Brother and also that Scripture in the Rom. by you mentioned when he speaks of a remnant and that they shall be grafted in again and whereas you say that all shall be saved Matth. 22. 14. Many are called but few are chosen I am sorry I must be so brief but straightened in my body the truth is his lungs are better then mine but I hope must here are satisfied in what hath been here stoken Robison We are well satisfied pray God keep us from this damnable Doctrine Coppin It remaines damnable to all that believe it not for though it be a truth that God will save all men yet till man doth see this salvation within him there is no satisfaction unto him but he still remains only as one called with the multitude that shall be saved but being not yet chosen he remains as one unsaved until his time appointed comes that he see himself saved which will then be his choice or election to the faith by the spirit of adoption so that many are called but few are chosen but the called shall all be chosen for it is written That the promise of salvation is to all that are afar off and as many as the Lord shall call Acts 2. 39. CHAP. XII Of the Day of Judgment and all mens coming to it with the time when the place where the manner how the matter judged and for what ROsewell You say we preach damnation and so do cast men downe we do preach it to such as do go on in their sins and live and die in their sins that hell is their portion and as for thousands which die in their infancie the corruption of their natures is enough to damn them in hell to all eternity I can but hint at those things indeed if we did preach only damnation we were too blame but when we do Preach comfort to Believers we preach damnation to unbelievers as Christ saith He that believeth shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned at the Day of Judgement Rom. 2. who after their hardnesse of heart treasure up wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God who will render to every man according to his deeds to them that are contentious and obey not the truth indignation and wrath tribulation and anguish to every soule of man which doth evill to the Jew first and also to the Gentile Coppin Sir you have run through many words of wrath and judgment but nothing is proved by you what it is nor when it is and whereas you say there is a day of wrath and judgment I doe acknowledge the same and that it is both to Jewes and Gentiles and all that obey not the truth but whereas you also say that some Jewes which are dead already shall not be grafted in againe I denie for the promise that they should come in was then made for all the stiff-necked Jewes that were also then and before living though their bodies fell in the wilderness yet their Spirits are living and shall again be grafted in When the earth shall be full of the knowledg of God and though you from Rom. 2. doe say they are under wrath you doe not from thence prove that it shall abide on them for ever and ever now I say that that man which is under wrath must there remaine till the Lord Jesus doth come to him to manifest himselfe in him to turne his wrath away from him and so judg that in him for wrath which is for wrath and that for mercy which is for mercy but because you have not declared what this day of wrath and judgment is I will for a day of judgment there is in which all men shall be judged and receive according to their deeds and if there be more then one day of judgment which I shall shew you then doe you declare it for I denie nothing which can be proved by any man from Scriptute Now the Scripture saith there is judgment appointed for all men as 't is written It is appointed for all men once to die and after that the judgment and this death is adying into sin and trespasses for the wages of sin is death which none can be delivered from but by judgment and the Lord Jesus is to be the Judg of all For the Father judgeth no man but hath commited all judgment to the Son who will not judg by the sight of the eye nor hearing of the eare but will judg righteous judgment and Christ saith for judgment am I come into this world and now saith he is the judgment of this world is come now shall the Prince of this world be cast out and as it began then so it is not ended yet but goeth on still and shall continue so long as there is any sin death

hell or devill to be judged or condemned in man And that every eare and eye that heares and sees any thing besides Christ shall be made deafe and blind and every mouth that speaks any thing besides Christ the truth shall be stopped that so the Lord himself may be all in all and saith Peter The time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God and if it begin at us what shall the end be of them that obey not the Gospel of God why all shall come to judgment every man in his order at the time when the Lord shall appear unto them And this is not a visible temporal Judgement on the bodies of men but invisible in the hearts of men which is the Temple unto which God will come and dwell in for the Lord whom you seek will suddainly come to his Temple and there sit as a Refiner and Purisier of silver and will take away his drosse and tyn and try them as gold is tried therefore he saith he will send the Spirit and he shall convince the world of sin of righteousnesse and judgement and when the Lord doth so come to judgement then shall everie mans book be opened and they shall be judged according to the things written in their books which books are the consciences of men bearing witnesse either for them or against them accusing or else excusing one another in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to his Gospel and this is the manner of the Lords proceeding to judgement in the day of the Gospel which to the Lord is but as one day though thousand of years Head a Lawyer said This is damnable Doctrine what need a coming to judgement if all shall be saved you are a Blasphemer and destroyes the Fundamentals of Religion by your impudency Coppin Though all men shall be saved yet not without judgment But Sir I perceive you are a Lawyer it may be hath a fee given you then plead Law for it the Gospel allowes of none but though you may know the Law better then I it may be I may know the Gospel as well as you and you see I have declared a judgement according to the Gospel and have proved it all along if you understand it and if any man can prove any other Judgement day besides this which I have proved let him declare it And I also prove that this Judge the Lord Jesus doth accuse no man but he that is the accuser of the brethren is the devil who shall be cast out and his accusation made void for man while he lives under the law lives under wrath and is accused by the law but when the Lord Jesus comes to any soul as a Judg to fulfill the law he declares himself accused and condemned for that soule and so frees him from the law and quiteth him of the accusation and now Christ accuseth not but Moses and yet saith he You will not come to me that you may have life but though you receive another that comes in his own name father then me that comes in my Fathers name yet doe not think that I will accuse you to the Father no but there is one that doth accuse you even Moses in whom you trust Rosewell John 5. is meant Christ will not accuse them to the Father yet Christ doth accuse them which doth oppose his Gospel and will doe it and will throw them to the nethermost hell at the last day in everlasting torment soul and body and therefore I desire you all as you tender the glory of God and the good of your own souls have a care of such a dangerous blasphemer as this which in such a high nature doth blaspheme the great God of heaven Isa. 26. Thy hand is lifted up and they will not see it but they shall see it and be ashamed for their envie at the people the fire of thy enemies shall devoure their persons at the last day Coppin You may apply this unto your self for your own envie that hath appeared at this and other times but doe you bring this to prove destruction of persons eternally at the last day which is no such thing here meant Rosewell I doe confesse a Spirituall Judgment Day Coppin That have I affirmed all this while for the which you crie out against me to be a blasphemer c. Rosewell But there is another day of judgment which will be at the last day Coppin Pray doe you prove a second day of judgment you have confest the first which I proved to you and I denie not your second if you can prove it to me also prove the destruction of persons as you say Rosewell Faelix did tremble when he did heare of judgment to come Coppin This judgment was to come on him then and is to come on all now on whom it hath not yet appeared for the destruction of sin Rosewell It doth appear there is no such judgment known unto you Jude 15. but the Lord will come visibly as a man from heaven and all his Saints with him to sit upon his Throne and to execute judgment and to convince all that are ungodly Coppin You should declare where this place of Judgment is and when it is and what this Throne is on which he sits Rosewell I will not tell you you shall know it when it doth come and therefore cease to pervert Scripture Coppin I do not at all judg or condemn you for speaking your judgment in what things you know though you do judg me for you can but speak as you have received according to your measure and so do I. Rosewell He doth mainly labour to deny any Judgment to come on any mans person Coppin I tell you again I denie nothing which you can prove to be true it is your work now to prove this Judgment Day you speak of as I have done mine Rosewell There is a Hell of fire and brimstone for ever Coppin You would do well to prove what you mean by it now before this people Rosewell You have here said that Christ was a sinner Coppin You said these words I never said them but said that he was in himself holie harmlesse just and good Rosewell You said the nature he did take was sinful and you have denied the Resurrection of the Body and do affirm that all men shall be saved Coppin It is a sign there is no more in you to declare because you go over with the same things again and again But how are you assured of your own salvation tell me that Rosewell I do believe he hath saved me and that one day he will do it Coppin If he hath done it alreadie then it is no more to do and it is better to believe that you are saved then that you shall be saved CHAP. XIII The practise of Magistrates and Ministers discovered how they one uphold another to serve not the Lord but

question is far fetcht and to little purpose and I shall answer you thus That those Ministers that do preach the Doctrine of Damnation telling people they are eternallie damned are no Gospel Ministers and do preach from an evil Spirit but Christ did not preach this Doctrine of Eternal Damnation to any for he did preach salvation to all men and the acceptable year of the Lord For he came not to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved Sanbroke Mat. 23. 14. Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees Hypocrites how will you escape the damnation of hell and therefore you shall receive the greater damnation Coppin Christ was then a fulfilling the Law which the Scribes and Pharisees did exercise upon the people as a burthen too heavie for them to bear for which several woes of damnation were pronounced against them and to be fulfilled upon them in that generation and Christ speaks not of eternal damnation but of degrees of damnation as of greater and lesser that should come upon them for their hypocrisie among the people and their not believing the glad tidings of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God which Christ told them was to be revealed in them and which would suddainlie come unto them yea them in that generation to whom damnation was then threatened and they hearing of this demanded of Christ the time when the Kingdome of God should come for which they then waited and hoped for and Christ answer'd and said The Kingdom of God comes not with observations neither shall they say lo here or lo there for behold the Kingdome of God is within you yea within you Scribes and Pharisees though you shut it up against your selves and others which many people also now do for which their judgment of long time lingereth not and their damnation slumbereth not but is so much the sooner and the greater unto them And therefore that forenamed place you quoted to prove the Doctrine of Damnation cannot be meant of eternal Damnation since he tells them The Kingdome of God is within them And this saith he is life eternal to know God the true God and Jesus Christ whom he hath sent therefore how doth this prove your Proposition you say they were finallie damned and yet Christ tells them the Kingdome of God was within them Sanbroke Were they Believers or Vnbelievers Coppin They were then Unbelievers not knowing the Kingdome of God to be within them and therefore did oppose it but your Schools will never teach you this lesson of knowing Christ within you which will confound all the wisdome and knowledge you there learn for in the School of men you learn the things of men but in the Schools of Christ the things of Christ and you shall never learn this mysterie of Christ in you till you become Christs Scholar Sanbroke How long doth this Damnation last on them Coppin So long as they do continue unbelievers Sanbroke You do not understand the Text Coppin You will never say that I or any man else do understand in but your selves unlesse they would understand it in your sense for you would have people learn no farther then you teach them but God will destroy all the teachings of men Sanbroke But if Christ did give his Ministers a Commission to preach Damnation then it is good and sound Doctrine so to do and they are not evil Spirits which do it as you do say Coppin But Christ did not give any such Commission to any of his Ministers that he sent forth to preach the Gospel to preach Damnation neither did they do it nor did I say so by them but by those that run and were not sent by him of which I also said somthing to this purpose in a book of mine called Truths Testimony from whence I suppose you had those words but produce but the book and I will warrant you there is an answer to it sufficient to prove it Sanbroke Indeed I had one of the books but I burnt it but to the Proposition Christ bids his Ministers preach the Gospel to every creature He that believes shall be saved and he that believes not shall be damned Coppin But pray mark you Christ doth bid his Discipies go into all the world and preach the Gospel to everie creature which is life and salvation to all by Christ and not damnation to any but salvation to everie creature and he that believes not this Doctrine hath damnation in himself alreadie and this Gospel was to be preached after Christ was risen from the dead and had compleatlie fulfilled the Law which before did condemn them Now saith he Go preach that Gospel of peace and of reconciliation to to everie creature in the world that God is in me reconciling them all to himself for now am I risen to be the life and light of all men and you are not to preach death and damnation but that I am come who is their life and salvation and this is their condemnation that I am come saith Christ and they believe it not or that this Gospel is preached and men receive it not And now do I question whether some of you have received this Gospel Commission from Christ yet or no and do preach the same Gospel for the same end after the same manner as they did for he bids his Disciples preach the Gospel which will save men and you preach the Law which will condemn men their salvation by Christ without works and you damnation without works they preach it to everie creature and freelie and you preach it but to some and for hire and so instead of preaching unitie peace and love amongst men you preach division wrath and eternal damnation which is no Gospel message and such are in no Gospel way have no Gospel Ministerie committed unto them and therefore no Commission from Christ to preach Rosewell If the Gospel be to be Preached to every creature then it must be Preached to stocks and stones for they are creatures Coppin Such things are not capable of hearing and receiving the sound thereof but to every man to every rationall creature the Gospel was to be Preached and is Preached and the sound thereof hath been heard amongst them to all the ends of the earth Sanbroke The time shall come that the Gospel shall be Preached to all men and they shall all heare of this Gospel Coppin But when shall they have it Preached say you I say 't is Preached to all the world already Sanbroke I deny it Coppin I prove it Col. 1. 6. The Gospel which we Preach saith the Apostle is the same which is come unto you as it is in all the world and saith he be not removed away from the hope of the Gospel which you have heard and which was Preached to every creature in the world which is under Heaven whereof I Paul am made a Minister yea of that Gospel which

Thine hand shall finde out all thine enemies thy right hand shall finde out those that hate thee thou shalt make them as a fiery Oven in the time of thine anger the Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath and the fire shall devoure them There is no man so wicked nor so righteous in himself but the Lord will find him out and will make him as an Oven in which he will kindle his fire to burn up the briers and thorns to wit mans sins and iniquities which man is full of and against which the fire of his anger is revealed that he may devoure them but not man for all mans works shall be burnt and he himself shall be saved so as by fire as it is written Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated though they tumbled both in one bellie Jacob is the good even the spirit Esau is the evil even the flesh and everie one hath this Jacob and Esau within them for a time but Esau which is flesh shall be burnt by Jacob which is the spirit the flesh shall be destroyed but the spirit saved and so saith the Lord the house of Jacob shall be a fire and the house of Esau shall be for stubble and they shall kindle in them and devoure them and there shall be nothing left of the house of Esau for the Lord hath spoken it and anger is not in me saith the Lord against the persons of men but if they set briers and thorns in my way against me I will pass through them and burn them up by this shall the iniquitie of Jacob be purged and this shall be the fruit thereof to take away their sins that the Lord may dwell therein and saith the Prophet I saw the Lord upon his Throne high and lifted up and his Train fill'd the Temple and behold an Angel came with a live coal in his hand which he had from the Altar and he laid it on my mouth and said Loe this hath touched thy lips and thine iniquitie is taken away and thy sin is purged so God is said to sit in his Temple man-like a Refiner of silver to purge away the dross and tyn and to destroy all together for ever But while this fire is a kindling in man so long is man full of the smoak thereof that he is not able to look into his own Temple to behold the glory of the Lord until his indignation be overpast and so it is written the Temple was filled with smoak from the glorie of God and from his power and no man was able to enter into the Temple till the seven Plagues of the seven Angels were fulfilled and then his wrath being over the fire being quenched his sins purged and the Oven man being cleansed of all the fuel and the ashes he shall return into his Tabernacle in peace he shall visit his habitation and shall not sin he shall not be afraid to look into his own heart but shall possesse himself with joy and with peace for all sin and iniquitie shall be done away and then the Lord alone shall be exalted in his owne Temple man and man in the Lord for ever and ever Captaine Harrison Is there any man without sin Paul saith He was compassed with a bodie of sin and death Coppin The bodie of sin and death was to be destroyed and he to be without sin and though Paul was sanctified and justified in the spirituall part or new man yet he was subject to sin so far as he was in the flesh as all men are which is still waring against the spirit till the spirit hath overcome it Gaman Let me speak now c. Coppin Let him speak Robison We cannot stay I have no patience Coppin Then the Lord grant you patience if you have none Captaine Smith You had better take a day to your selfe Mr. Gaman Gaman Well I see you Priests are all carnal and your weapons are not spiritual seeing you cannot deal with this man therefore go you and your Priests together Coppin If the Presbyterians Sect have done then Anabaptists may begin and take your day also for though you are one against another yet I see you will both joyne together against me and this makes good that Scripture there 's Ephraim against Manasseh and Manasseh against Ephraim but both against Judah yet point your day when you will CHAP. XX The malicious and illegal proceedings of some Ministers and Magistrates of Kent against Richard Coppin in the City of Rochester with his Commitment to Prison how and by whom THe Disputes being ended and the Ministers not relieved but having suffer'd in their principles and losing many of their Hearers they to regaine them againe have with themselves and some men called Justices of the Peace Members of their Churches had several private consultations together how they might doe to dismisse me from thence of preaching any more to the people for which through their false information they obtained a Warrant against me from the Committee of Kent but I was then at London and having notice of it did neverthelesse appeare to the Warrant being willing to answer to any thing that should be laid to my charge being also cleare and innocent in my owne spirit of any thing that I had said or done contrarie to any Law of God or man and I being in my lodging at Rochester on the Eve of the Sabbath at night intending to preach on the morrow came an Officer of the Souldierie unto me from Captaine Smith a Captain of the Companie there quartering that I should come before him into whose hands the Warrant was committed and whose Order was by the Warrant that I must not preach on the morrow but to continue his Prisoner till Munday onlie I had liberty in the meane time to go to my lodging but the Sabbath being come on the morrow and the people assembled together at the Cathedral according to their former custome I came amongst them but a Guard of Souldiers being set in the Cathedrall I preached to the people in the Colledge-yard in the Morning and in the Fields in the Afternoone untill we were disturbed by the Souldiers who did but their duty which they were commanded by the authority of the Justices Major General Kelsie and others for that County On the morrow being Munday and twenty fourth of December the said Major General Kelsie John Parker Charles Bowles and Richard Watson as Justices of the Peace for that Countie also Captaine Harrison and severall Ministers as Informers met together in the Crowne-Inne of the City of Rochester where they examined Witnesses and received what informations they thought fit against me in my absence and having before determined amongst themselves what to doe with me they sent for me to come before them where Major General Kelsie told me that he had received information against me upon oath that I was an enemie to the present Power and of several