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An answer to a booke entitvled An hvmble remonstrance in which the originall of liturgy, episcopacy is discussed : and quares propounded concerning both : the parity of bishops and presbyters in Scripture demonstrated : the occasion of their imparity in antiquity discovered : the disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested : the antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated : the prelaticall church bownded / written by Smectymnvvs.
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Smectymnuus.; Milton, John, 1608-1674.
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again_o we_o read_v of_o elder_a and_o elder_n presbyter_n and_o senior_n in_o one_o church_n both_o those_o passage_n be_v upon_o record_n in_o the_o public_a act_n which_o be_v more_o full_o set_v down_o by_o baronius_n ao._n 303._o num._n 15.16_o 17._o as_o also_o by_o albaspineus_n in_o his_o edition_n of_o optatus_n in_o which_o act_v the_o senior_n be_v often_o mention_v in_o that_o famous_a relation_n of_o the_o purge_n of_o cecilianus_n and_o felix_n there_o be_v a_o copy_n of_o a_o letter_n fratribus_fw-la &_o filiis_fw-la clero_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la fortis_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la aeternam_fw-la salutem_fw-la another_o letter_n be_v mention_v a_o little_a before_o clericis_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la cirthensium_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la aeternum_fw-la salutem_fw-la these_o senior_n be_v interest_v in_o affair_n concern_v the_o church_n as_o be_v the_o man_n by_o who_o advice_n they_o be_v manage_v the_o letter_n of_o purpurius_n to_o silvanus_n say_v adhibete_fw-la conclâ—ricos_fw-la &_o seniores_fw-la plebis_fw-la ecclesiasticos_fw-la viros_fw-la &_o inquirant_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la ista_fw-la dissensiones_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la secundum_fw-la fidei_fw-la praecepta_fw-la fiant_fw-la where_o we_o see_v the_o joint_a power_n of_o these_o senior_n with_o the_o clergy_n in_o order_v ecclesiastical_a affair_n that_o by_o their_o wisdom_n and_o care_n peace_n may_v be_v settle_v in_o the_o church_n for_o which_o cause_n these_o senior_n be_v call_v ecclesiastical_a man_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o clergy_n man_n they_o be_v mention_v again_o afterward_o by_o maximus_n say_v loquor_fw-la nomine_fw-la seniorum_n populi_n christiani_n greg._n mag._n distinguish_v they_o also_o from_o the_o clergy_n tabellarium_fw-la cum_fw-la consensu_fw-la seniorum_n &_o cleri_fw-la memineris_fw-la ordinandum_fw-la these_o senior_n have_v power_n to_o reprove_v offender_n otherwise_o why_o shall_v augustine_n say_v cum_fw-la ob_fw-la errorem_fw-la aliquem_fw-la à _fw-la senioribus_fw-la arguuntur_fw-la &_o imputatur_fw-la alicui_fw-la cur_n ebrius_fw-la fuerit_fw-la dom._n cur_n res_fw-la alienas_fw-la pervaserit_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o they_o be_v by_o the_o elder_n reprove_v for_o their_o error_n and_o drunkenness_n be_v lay_v to_o a_o man_n charge_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o senior_n to_o have_v the_o cognizance_n of_o delinquent_n and_o to_o reprove_v they_o 2._o the_o same_o augustine_n in_o psalm_n 36._o necesse_fw-la nos_fw-la fuerat_fw-la primianicausam_fw-la quem_fw-la etc._n etc._n seniorun_n literis_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la postulantibus_fw-la audire_fw-la be_v request_v by_o letter_n from_o the_o senior_n of_o that_o church_n it_o be_v needful_a for_o i_o to_o hear_v the_o the_o cause_n of_o primian_n etc._n etc._n so_o again_o optatus_n who_o mention_v a_o persecution_n that_o do_v for_o a_o while_n scatter_v the_o church_n say_v erant_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ex_fw-la auro_fw-la &_o argento_fw-la quam_fw-la plurima_fw-la ornamenta_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la defodere_fw-la terrae_fw-la nec_fw-la secum_fw-la portare_fw-la poterat_fw-la quare_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la senioribus_fw-la commendavit_fw-la albaspinâ—us_n that_o learned_a antiquary_n on_o that_o place_n acknowledge_v that_o beside_o the_o clergy_n there_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n man_n of_o approve_a life_n that_o do_v tend_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n of_o who_o this_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v by_o all_o these_o testimony_n it_o be_v apparent_a first_o that_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n there_o be_v some_o call_v senior_n second_o that_o these_o senior_n be_v not_o clergy_n man_n three_o that_o they_o have_v a_o stroke_n in_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o manage_v the_o affair_n thereof_o four_o that_o senior_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n 32._o neither_o wouâ—d_v we_o desire_v to_o choose_v any_o other_o judge_n in_o this_o whole_a controversy_n than_o who_o himself_o constitute_v foreign_a divine_n take_v the_o general_a suffrage_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o particular_a man_n as_o for_o the_o learned_a spanhemius_fw-la who_o he_o produce_v though_o we_o give_v he_o the_o deserve_a honour_n of_o a_o worthy_a man_n yet_o we_o think_v it_o too_o much_o to_o speak_v of_o he_o as_o if_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o geneva_n be_v incorporate_v into_o he_o as_o this_o remonstrant_a do_v and_o for_o spanhemius_fw-la himself_o we_o may_v true_o say_v in_o the_o place_n cite_v he_o deliver_v a_o compliment_n rather_o than_o his_o judgement_n which_o in_o dedicatory_a epistle_n be_v not_o unusual_a we_o know_v that_o reverend_a calvin_n and_o learned_a beza_n have_v say_v as_o much_o upon_o occasion_n in_o their_o epistle_n and_o yet_o the_o christian_a world_n know_v their_o judgement_n be_v to_o the_o contrary_n little_a reason_n therefore_o have_v this_o remonstrant_a 33._o to_o declaim_v against_o all_o such_o as_o speak_v against_o this_o government_n as_o unlawful_a 33._o with_o the_o term_n of_o ignorant_a and_o spiteful_a sectary_n because_o they_o call_v the_o government_n unlawful_a have_v they_o proceed_v further_a to_o call_v it_o antichristian_a which_o he_o charge_v upon_o they_o they_o have_v say_v no_o more_o than_o what_o our_o ear_n have_v hear_v some_o of_o their_o principal_a agent_n their_o legati_fw-la à _fw-la latere_fw-la speak_v public_o in_o their_o visitation_n that_o how_o ever_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v as_o sound_v and_o orthodox_n in_o her_o doctrine_n as_o any_o church_n in_o the_o world_n duck_n yet_o in_o our_o discipline_n and_o government_n we_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o amount_v to_o asmuch_o as_o to_o say_v the_o government_n be_v antichristian_a unless_o they_o will_v say_v the_o government_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o so_o nor_o the_o pope_n antichrist_n sect_n xvi_o now_o our_o remonstrant_n begin_v to_o leave_v his_o dispute_n for_o the_o office_n and_o flow_v into_o the_o large_a praâ—ses_n of_o the_o person_n and_o what_o be_v want_v in_o his_o argument_n for_o the_o place_n think_v to_o make_v up_o in_o his_o encomiastics_n of_o the_o person_n that_o have_v possess_v that_o place_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o religious_a bishop_n of_o all_o time_n be_v and_o have_v be_v they_o that_o have_v strong_o uphold_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n against_o satan_n and_o his_o antichrist_n it_o be_v well_o he_o set_v this_o crown_n only_o upon_o the_o head_n of_o religious_a bishop_n as_o know_v that_o there_o be_v and_o have_v be_v some_o irreligious_a one_o 34._o that_o have_v as_o strong_o uphold_v satan_n and_o his_o antichrist_n against_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n but_o the_o religious_a bishop_n be_v they_o that_o have_v all_o time_n uphold_v the_o truth_n what_o they_o and_o only_o they_o do_v never_o any_o uphold_v the_o truth_n but_o a_o religious_a bishop_n do_v never_o any_o religious_a minister_n or_o professor_n preach_v or_o write_v or_o die_v to_o uphold_v the_o truth_n but_o a_o religious_a bishop_n if_o so_o then_o there_o be_v some_o persuasive_a strength_n in_o that_o he_o say_v and_o a_o credulous_a man_n may_v be_v induce_v â—o_o think_v if_o bishop_n go_v down_o truth_n will_v go_v down_o too_o but_o if_o we_o can_v produce_v for_o one_o bishop_n many_o other_o that_o give_v be_v valiant_a for_o the_o truth_n this_o rhethoricall_a insinuation_n will_v contribute_v no_o great_a help_n to_o their_o establishment_n nor_o indeed_o any_o at_o all_o unless_o he_o be_v able_a to_o make_v this_o good_a of_o our_o time_n as_o well_o as_o of_o all_o other_o 35._o which_o he_o assay_v for_o say_v he_o even_o among_o our_o own_o how_o many_o of_o the_o reverend_a &_o learned_a father_n of_o the_o church_n now_o live_v 2_o have_v spend_v their_o spirit_n &_o wear_v out_o their_o life_n in_o the_o powerful_a opposition_n of_o that_o man_n of_o sin_n how_o many_o i_o sir_n we_o will_v fain_o know_v how_o many_o that_o there_o be_v some_o that_o have_v stand_v up_o to_o bear_v witness_n against_o that_o man_n of_o sin_n we_o acknowledge_v with_o all_o due_a respect_n to_o the_o learning_n and_o worth_n of_o their_o person_n but_o that_o their_o episcopal_a dignity_n have_v add_v either_o any_o flame_n to_o their_o zeal_n or_o any_o nerve_n to_o their_o ability_n we_o can_v believe_v nor_o can_v we_o think_v they_o will_v have_v do_v less_o in_o that_o cause_n though_o they_o have_v be_v no_o bishop_n but_o what_o if_o this_o be_v true_a of_o some_o bishop_n in_o the_o kingdom_n be_v it_o true_a of_o all_o be_v there_o not_o some_o that_o have_v spend_v their_o spirit_n in_o the_o opposition_n of_o christ_n as_o other_o have_v in_o the_o opposition_n of_o antichrist_n &_o be_v there_o none_o but_o zealous_a religious_a prelate_n in_o the_o kingdom_n be_v there_o none_o upon_o who_o the_o guilt_n of_o that_o may_v meritorious_o be_v charge_v 35._o which_o other_o have_v convince_o and_o
prayer_n 397._o but_o such_o as_o be_v approve_v of_o in_o a_o synod_n which_o be_v not_o determine_v till_o the_o year_n 416._o conc._n milev_n 2._o can._n 12._o and_o have_v there_o be_v any_o liturgy_n of_o time_n of_o the_o first_o and_o most_o venerable_a antiquity_n producible_a 2._o the_o great_a admirer_n of_o they_o and_o inquirer_n after_o they_o will_v have_v present_v they_o to_o the_o world_n ere_o this_o 416._o we_o know_v that_o bishop_n andrews_n in_o his_o zeal_n for_o liturgy_n pursue_v the_o inquiry_n after_o the_o jewish_a liturgy_n so_o far_o that_o he_o think_v he_o have_v find_v it_o and_o one_o there_o be_v which_o he_o send_v to_o cambridge_n to_o be_v translate_v but_o there_o it_o be_v soon_o discover_v to_o have_v be_v make_v long_o after_o the_o jew_n cease_v to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o so_o himself_o suppress_v it_o that_o it_o never_o see_v the_o light_n under_o a_o translation_n we_o wonder_v therefore_o what_o this_o remonstrant_a mean_v to_o affirm_v so_o confident_o 10._o that_o part_n of_o the_o form_n of_o prayer_n which_o be_v compose_v by_o our_o bless_a saviour_n be_v borrow_v from_o the_o form_n of_o prayer_n former_o use_v by_o god_n people_n a_o opinion_n we_o never_o meet_v before_o indeed_o we_o have_v read_v that_o the_o rabbin_n since_o the_o day_n of_o our_o saviour_n have_v borrow_v some_o expression_n from_o that_o prayer_n and_o from_o other_o evangelicall_n passage_n but_o we_o never_o read_v till_o now_o that_o the_o lord_n christ_n the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o father_n borrow_v from_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o rabbin_n expression_n to_o use_v in_o prayer_n 12._o and_o as_o much_o we_o wonder_v by_o what_o revelation_n or_o tradition_n scripture_n be_v silent_a in_o the_o thing_n he_o know_v that_o peter_n and_o john_n when_o they_o go_v up_o to_o the_o temple_n to_o pray_v their_o prayer_n be_v not_o of_o a_o sudden_a and_o extemporary_a conception_n but_o of_o a_o regular_a prescription_n sure_o we_o be_v some_o as_o well_o read_v in_o jewish_a antiquity_n as_o this_o remonstrant_a show_n himself_o to_o be_v have_v tell_v we_o that_o the_o hour_n of_o prayer_n be_v the_o time_n when_o the_o priest_n burn_v incense_n and_o the_o people_n be_v at_o their_o private_a prayer_n without_o as_o appear_v luke_n 1.9_o where_o we_o read_v that_o while_n zachary_n the_o priest_n go_v in_o to_o offer_v incense_n all_o the_o people_n stand_v with_o out_o pray_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o oblation_n which_o prayer_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v prescript_n form_n or_o liturgy_n that_o they_o be_v not_o vocal_a but_o mental_a prayer_n as_o master_n meade_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o exposition_n upon_o the_o eight_o of_o the_o revelation_n and_o what_o ever_o peter_n and_o john_n do_v this_o we_o know_v that_o when_o the_o publican_n and_o the_o pharisee_n go_v up_o to_o the_o temple_n to_o pray_v as_o the_o apostle_n do_v at_o the_o hour_n of_o prayer_n their_o prayer_n be_v not_o of_o regular_a prescription_n 18._o but_o of_o a_o present_a conception_n but_o if_o this_o remonstrant_n be_v in_o the_o right_n concern_v the_o jewish_a liturgy_n than_o the_o evangelicall_n church_n may_v better_o have_v improve_v her_o peace_n and_o happiness_n 11._o then_o in_o compose_v model_n of_o invocation_n and_o thanksgiving_n when_o there_o be_v one_o extant_a and_o ready_a to_o be_v produce_v that_o be_v constant_o use_v by_o god_n people_n ever_o since_o moses_n day_n and_o put_v over_o to_o the_o time_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o confirm_v by_o apostolical_a practice_n or_o else_o great_a be_v our_o loss_n who_o be_v so_o unhappy_o deprive_v of_o the_o best_a improvement_n the_o church_n make_v of_o her_o peace_n and_o happiness_n in_o the_o first_o 300._o year_n for_o reject_v those_o liturgy_n that_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o learned_a to_o be_v spurious_a 18._o we_o challenge_v this_o remonstrant_a to_o produce_v any_o one_o liturgy_n that_o be_v the_o issue_n of_o those_o time_n and_o bless_a constantine_n be_v herein_o as_o unhappy_a as_o we_o who_o need_v not_o have_v compose_v form_n of_o prayer_n for_o his_o guard_n to_o use_v upon_o the_o lord_n day_n but_o might_n and_o will_v have_v take_v they_o out_o of_o former_a liturgy_n if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o and_o can_v you_o with_o patience_n think_v that_o any_o ingenuous_a christian_n shall_v be_v so_o transport_v 11._o as_o upon_o such_o weak_a and_o unproved_a premise_n to_o build_v such_o a_o confident_a conclusion_n as_o this_o remonstrant_a do_v and_o in_o that_o conclusion_n forget_v the_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n slide_v from_o the_o question_n of_o a_o prescribe_a and_o impose_v liturgy_n to_o a_o arbitrary_a book_n of_o prayer_n in_o his_o rhetorical_a encomium_n of_o conceive_a prayer_n we_o shall_v more_o willing_o bear_v a_o part_n with_o he_o than_o they_o who_o cause_n he_o plead_v for_o have_v that_o be_v in_o their_o heart_n which_o be_v in_o this_o book_n 12._o to_o hate_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o pour_v water_n upon_o the_o spirit_n and_o glad_o to_o add_v oil_n rather_o so_o many_o learned_a able_a conscientious_a preacher_n have_v not_o be_v molest_v and_o suspend_v for_o let_v the_o constant_a flame_n of_o their_o fix_a conception_n mount_v up_o from_o the_o altar_n of_o their_o zealous_a heart_n unto_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n nor_o have_v there_o be_v so_o many_o advantage_n watch_v from_o some_o stop_n and_o seem_a solecism_n in_o some_o man_n prayer_n 12._o to_o blaspheme_v the_o spirit_n of_o prayer_n which_o though_o now_o confess_v to_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v offensive_a that_o they_o be_v as_o please_a music_n in_o the_o ear_n of_o the_o almighty_a yet_o time_n have_v be_v when_o they_o have_v â—ounded_v as_o mere_a battology_n nay_o no_o better_o than_o mere_a blasphemy_n in_o the_o â—ares_n of_o some_o bishop_n 13._o and_o if_o this_o conceive_a prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v oppose_v in_o another_o by_o any_o man_n that_o have_v find_v the_o true_a operation_n of_o this_o grace_n in_o himself_o with_o that_o spirit_n than_o be_v those_o possess_v that_o have_v not_o only_o thus_o rage_v with_o their_o tongue_n against_o this_o way_n of_o prayer_n but_o by_o seal_v up_o the_o mouth_n of_o minister_n for_o pray_v thus_o in_o public_a and_o impose_v penance_n upon_o private_a christian_n for_o pray_v thus_o in_o their_o family_n and_o compel_v they_o to_o abjure_v this_o practice_n have_v endeavour_v with_o rage_a violence_n to_o banish_v this_o divine_a ordinance_n from_o our_o church_n and_o dwelling_n novel_a and_o profess_v in_o open_a court_n it_o be_v fit_a for_o amsterdam_n than_o for_o our_o church_n but_o howsoever_o this_o applause_n of_o conceive_a prayer_n may_v seem_v to_o be_v cordial_n yet_o he_o make_v it_o but_o a_o vantage_n ground_n to_o lift_v up_o public_a form_n of_o sacred_a church_n liturgy_n as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o high_a that_o they_o may_v have_v the_o great_a honour_n that_o by_o the_o power_n of_o your_o authority_n they_o be_v reinforce_v which_o work_n there_o will_v have_v be_v no_o need_n to_o call_v your_o honour_n to_o 13._o have_v not_o episcopal_a zeal_n break_v forth_o into_o such_o flame_n of_o indignation_n against_o conceive_a prayer_n that_o we_o have_v more_o just_a cause_n to_o implore_v the_o propitious_a aid_n of_o the_o same_o authority_n to_o reestablish_v the_o liberty_n of_o this_o than_o they_o to_o reinforce_v the_o necessity_n of_o that_o yet_o there_o be_v two_o specious_a argument_n which_o this_o remonstrant_a bring_v to_o persuade_v this_o desire_a re-inforcement_n the_o original_a and_o confirmation_n of_o our_o liturgy_n for_o the_o first_o he_o tell_v your_o honour_n it_o be_v select_v out_o of_o ancient_a model_n not_o roman_a but_o christian_a 13._o contrive_v by_o the_o holy_a martyr_n and_o confessor_n of_o the_o bless_a reformation_n of_o religion_n where_o we_o beseech_v your_o honour_n to_o consider_v how_o we_o may_v trust_v these_o man_n who_o sometime_o speak_v and_o write_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n proclaim_v it_o a_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o yet_o here_o roman_z and_o christian_a stand_n in_o opposition_n sometime_o they_o tell_v man_n their_o liturgy_n be_v whole_o take_v out_o of_o the_o roman_a missal_n only_o with_o some_o little_a alteration_n and_o here_o they_o will_v persuade_v your_o honour_n there_o be_v nothing_o roman_a in_o it_o but_o it_o be_v whole_o select_v out_o of_o pure_a ancient_a model_n as_o the_o quintessence_n of_o they_o all_o whereas_o alas_o the_o original_n of_o it_o be_v publish_v to_o the_o world_n in_o that_o proclamation_n of_o edward_n the_o six_o and_o though_o here_o they_o please_v to_o style_v the_o composer_n of_o it_o holy_a martyr_n and_o contriver_n of_o the_o bless_a reformation_n yet_o there_o be_v of_o the_o tribe_n for_o who_o