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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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by_o light_n of_o understanding_n from_o whence_o they_o be_v absent_a according_a to_o their_o substance_n the_o prophet_n elizeus_fw-la see_v in_o absence_n what_o pass_v betwixt_o his_o servant_n gehezi_n and_o naaman_n to_o who_o he_o say_v my_o heart_n be_v 5.24_o there_o present_a with_o thou_o with_o far_o great_a reason_n say_v s._n augustine_n the_o saint_n of_o god_n even_o with_o eye_n of_o body_n vigilant_a close_v up_o shall_v see_v all_o thing_n not_o only_o present_a but_o also_o from_o which_o they_o be_v corporal_o absent_a this_o be_v that_o which_o saint_n hierome_n do_v so_o earnest_o defend_v against_o vigilantius_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a where_o their_o shrine_n and_o relic_n be_v and_o never_o absent_a but_o still_o ready_a to_o hear_v the_o prayer_n of_o their_o suppliant_n not_o think_v as_o dr_n field_n impose_v upon_o he_o that_o they_o be_v present_a in_o so_o 20._o many_o place_n substantial_o according_a to_o their_o soul_n but_o that_o they_o be_v present_a as_o elizeus_fw-la be_v present_a unto_o gehezi_n in_o spirit_n behold_v what_o pass_v as_o clear_o as_o if_o they_o be_v corporal_o present_a answer_n that_o the_o bless_a saint_n in_o heaven_n have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n formal_o eminent_o or_o in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la in_o respect_n of_o all_o individual_a object_n be_v neither_o express_o affirm_v by_o s._n paul_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v collect_v from_o his_o doctrine_n for_o the_o use_n and_o end_n of_o this_o gift_n be_v the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a 1._o cor._n 12._o 10._o eph._n 4._o 11_o 12._o and_o because_o this_o end_n cease_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o bless_a saint_n apoc._n 14._o 13_o therefore_o we_o have_v no_o certainty_n pertinent_a that_o they_o ordinary_o and_o perpetual_o enjoy_v the_o same_o and_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o have_v this_o gift_n eminent_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o have_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o according_a to_o every_o material_a object_n it_o have_v in_o this_o life_n for_o some_o object_n of_o prophecy_n be_v contingent_a and_o accidental_o cognoscuntur_fw-la belong_v to_o prophetical_a grace_n and_o every_o act_n of_o knowledge_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o glorify_a state_n imperfection_n of_o knowledge_n to_o wit_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o know_v and_o the_o object_n know_v and_o the_o subject_a understanding_n shall_v be_v remove_v in_o the_o blissful_a state_n but_o where_o do_v s._n paul_n affirm_v that_o the_o bless_a by_o divine_a vision_n or_o revelation_n understand_v all_o particular_a object_n which_o they_o know_v in_o this_o life_n aquinas_n himself_o tendit_fw-la have_v these_o word_n to_o know_v all_o particular_a or_o individual_a thing_n and_o the_o cogitation_n and_o action_n of_o the_o same_o belong_v not_o to_o the_o perfection_n of_o a_o create_a understanding_n neither_o do_v his_o natural_a desire_n affect_v this_o also_o the_o same_o author_n ibid._n with_o hugo_n lyra_n and_o other_o comment_v upon_o s._n paul_n word_n 1._o cor._n 13._o 12._o then_o shall_v i_o know_v even_o as_o also_o i_o be_o know_v expound_v they_o of_o the_o intuitive_a knowledge_n which_o b._n saint_n in_o heaven_n shall_v have_v of_o god_n himself_o and_o not_o of_o all_o other_o create_v object_n but_o from_o hence_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o saint_n decease_v shall_v intuitive_o or_o by_o revelation_n know_v all_o other_o inferior_a thing_n as_o i_o have_v former_o prove_v in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuit_n second_v paragraph_n s._n augustine_n d._n civit._n dei_fw-la lib._n 22._o cap._n 29_o etc._n prosper_n d._n vit._n cont._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o etc._n speak_v of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o bless_a man_n after_o their_o resurrection_n affirm_v that_o when_o they_o shall_v be_v all_o of_o they_o together_o in_o heaven_n their_o heart_n shall_v be_v open_a each_o of_o they_o to_o other_o but_o that_o the_o heart_n of_o they_o which_o remain_v upon_o earth_n be_v open_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d saint_n be_v not_o affirm_v by_o these_o father_n s._n hierome_n against_o vigilantius_n speak_v in_o heat_n of_o disputation_n but_o he_o affirm_v in_o another_o place_n noscere_fw-la that_o because_o jesus_n know_v the_o thought_n of_o some_o of_o the_o scribe_n he_o do_v thereby_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v god_n jesuit_fw-la three_o it_o be_v clear_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o holy_a angel_n see_v the_o prayer_n and_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n a_o angel_n offer_v unto_o god_n the_o 4._o prayer_n of_o man_n which_o he_o can_v not_o have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o know_v they_o answer_n first_o the_o place_n of_o s._n john_n apocal._n 8.4_o prove_v not_o either_o clear_o or_o obscure_o that_o holy_a angel_n hear_v the_o prayer_n or_o see_v the_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n for_o the_o angel_n mention_v be_v expound_v by_o the_o ancient_a expositor_n and_o by_o the_o romist_n themselves_o not_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o nature_n but_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o office_n and_o by_o some_o of_o they_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o type_n albertus_n concilij_fw-la in_o his_o commentary_n s._n john_n say_v another_o angel_n that_o be_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n isaiah_n 9_o dionifius_fw-la carthusian_n voco_fw-la catholic_a doctor_n etc._n etc._n by_o this_o angel_n understand_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o great_a council_n and_o which_o by_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o incarnation_n come_v into_o the_o world_n and_o stand_v upon_o the_o altar_n of_o the_o crosse._n blasius_n viegas_n monstretur_fw-la a_o jesuit_n we_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v christ_n because_o the_o thing_n here_o speak_v of_o he_o can_v agree_v to_o no_o other_o but_o christ_n for_o who_o but_o he_o can_v with_o so_o great_a majesty_n offer_v up_o to_o god_n the_o incense_n that_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o beside_o he_o be_v able_a out_o of_o the_o perfume_a pan_n to_o send_v down_o into_o the_o earth_n the_o fiery_a coal_n of_o divine_a charity_n and_o to_o inflame_v people_n with_o the_o burn_a grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n with_o these_o agree_v ambrose_n significat_fw-la primasius_n 2._o ansbertus_n 393._o beda_n 2._o haimo_n 8._o hugo_n cardinalis_fw-la and_o the_o gloss_n christo._n but_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v a_o create_v or_o minister_a spirit_n it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o angel_n understand_v the_o secret_a cogitation_n of_o man_n heart_n any_o further_a than_o the_o same_o be_v manifest_v by_o sign_n neither_o be_v it_o consequent_a that_o people_n ought_v to_o pray_v unto_o they_o for_o priest_n offer_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o god_n and_o yet_o no_o man_n do_v therefore_o invocate_v priest_n christianorum_fw-la jesuit_fw-la our_o saviour_n witness_v that_o the_o angel_n rejoice_v at_o 15.10_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n so_o they_o must_v needs_o know_v it_o nor_o can_v they_o know_v it_o without_o know_v the_o sinner_n heart_n conversion_n not_o be_v true_a nor_o worthy_a of_o joy_n except_o it_o proceed_v from_o the_o heart_n answer_n not_o only_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n but_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n luke_n 15.24_o 2._o cor._n 7.9_o likewise_o parent_n minister_n and_o 〈◊〉_d rejoice_v etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n which_o rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n see_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n 1._o cor._n 2.11_o so_o likewise_o angel_n which_o be_v minister_a spirit_n heb._n 1.14_o may_v understand_v by_o the_o sign_n and_o fruit_n of_o true_a repentance_n the_o conversion_n of_o diverse_a sinner_n and_o consequent_o they_o may_v rejoice_v without_o intuitive_a
knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n second_o our_o saviour_n word_n luk._n 15.10_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o conclusion_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o must_v not_o be_v strain_v beyond_o the_o true_a scope_n etc._n but_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o sundry_a father_n 168._o and_o some_o learned_a papist_n 〈◊〉_d the_o hundred_o sheep_n vers._n 4._o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o elect_n consist_v of_o man_n and_o angel_n the_o ninety_o and_o nine_o sheep_n not_o lose_v be_v the_o angel_n persist_v in_o their_o prime_a integrity_n the_o stray_n sheep_n all_o mankind_n sin_v in_o adam_n to_o recover_v this_o lose_a sheep_n the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o good_a shepherd_n john_n 10._o 11._o be_v incarnate_a and_o by_o the_o gracious_a work_n of_o redemption_n he_o lay_v the_o same_o on_o his_o shoulder_n now_o there_o be_v great_a joy_n in_o heaven_n before_o the_o celestial_a angel_n for_o this_o recovery_n and_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n but_o if_o this_o exposition_n be_v admit_v no_o more_o can_v be_v infer_v but_o that_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o same_o the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o man_n redemption_n neither_o be_v it_o consequent_a the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o the_o conversion_n and_o reduction_n of_o mankind_n ergo_fw-la they_o know_v distinct_o and_o perpetual_o the_o particular_a quality_n of_o every_o individual_a sinner_n repentance_n last_o if_o the_o say_a word_n luke_n 15._o 10._o be_v understand_v of_o sinner_n in_o particular_a this_o text_n yet_o fall_v short_a to_o prove_v that_o all_o the_o celestial_a angel_n perpetual_o and_o at_o the_o very_a instant_n know_v the_o particular_a true_a repentance_n of_o every_o sinner_n individual_o for_o the_o same_o may_v be_v understand_v according_a to_o this_o supposition_n or_o reflection_n to_o wit_n there_o be_v joy_n before_o the_o angel_n of_o heaven_n over_o one_o sinner_n which_o repent_v when_o the_o repentance_n of_o this_o one_o sinner_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o they_o but_o it_o be_v not_o say_v neither_o can_v it_o be_v infer_v that_o celestial_a angel_n know_v constant_o and_o at_o all_o time_n when_o each_o individual_a person_n repent_v true_o our_o adversary_n therefore_o can_v ground_v a_o infallible_a doctrine_n touch_v angelical_a science_n upon_o a_o branch_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o according_a to_o themselves_o admit_v diverse_a exposition_n and_o the_o consequence_n whereof_o be_v not_o necessary_a but_o contingent_a and_o upon_o supposition_n jesuit_fw-la saint_n paul_n say_v we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n unto_o god_n 9_o and_o angel_n and_o he_o adjure_v timothy_n by_o god_n and_o his_o angel_n which_o show_v that_o we_o live_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o angel_n and_o that_o they_o behold_v what_o we_o do_v and_o hear_v what_o we_o say_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n answer_n saint_n paul_n word_n be_v 1._o corinth_n 4._o 9_o we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n to_o the_o world_n and_o to_o angel_n and_o man_n angelis_n laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la hominibus_fw-la laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la 38._o say_v saint_n augustine_n to_o good_a angel_n praise_v we_o to_o evil_a angel_n dispraise_v we_o to_o good_a man_n commend_v we_o and_o to_o wicked_a man_n condemn_v and_o deride_v us._n the_o consequence_n of_o this_o argument_n we_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n therefore_o angel_n understand_v and_o see_v our_o thought_n be_v childish_a for_o as_o saint_n paul_n be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n so_o he_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o jesuite_n will_v blush_v to_o argue_v hence_o ergo_fw-la good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n behold_v the_o heart_n second_o as_o saint_n paul_n say_v i_o testify_v before_o god_n and_o the_o elect_a angel_n so_o moses_n say_v i_o call_v this_o day_n heaven_n and_o earth_n witness_n deuteron_n 4._o 26._o &_o 32._o 1._o and_o isaiah_n say_v hear_v oh_o heaven_n and_o hearken_v oh_o earth_n chap._n 1._o v._n 2._o every_o creature_n therefore_o which_o god_n call_v to_o witness_v or_o adjure_v man_n by_o be_v not_o a_o fearcher_n and_o beholder_n of_o the_o thought_n and_o affection_n of_o the_o heart_n jesuit_fw-la but_o as_o the_o same_o scripture_n aver_v the_o saint_n be_v like_a 112._o unto_o the_o angel_n and_o equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o in_o heaven_n the_o same_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o a_o man_n and_o of_o a_o angel_n ergo_fw-la knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n answer_n matth._n 22._o 30._o our_o saviour_n say_v that_o in_o the_o resurrection_n neither_o shall_v they_o marry_v nor_o be_v marry_v but_o be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n in_o heaven_n luke_n 20._o 36._o they_o which_o shall_v be_v count_v worthy_a of_o that_o world_n and_o the_o resurrection_n from_o the_o dead_a neither_o marry_v nor_o take_v wife_n neither_o can_v they_o die_v any_o more_o for_o they_o be_v equal_a to_o angel_n and_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n see_v they_o be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o resurrection_n in_o these_o word_n first_o the_o subject_n be_v just_a people_n at_o the_o resurrection_n second_o concern_v these_o our_o saviour_n affirm_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o marry_v etc._n etc._n three_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o angel_n and_o equal_a to_o angel_n four_o he_o express_v wherein_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o to_o wit_n first_o in_o freedom_n from_o secular_a action_n and_o passion_n second_o in_o glorious_a adoption_n or_o real_a possession_n of_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n now_o i_o admire_v what_o papist_n can_v extort_v from_o hence_o ib._n for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a to_o wit_n just_a man_n at_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v live_v as_o angel_n remote_a from_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o worldly_a life_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n free_a from_o material_a and_o corporeal_a passion_n and_o equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o fruition_n of_o blessedness_n ergo_fw-la the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n which_o we_o make_v in_o this_o life_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n the_o place_n of_o the_o revelation_n chap._n 21.17_o be_v expound_v by_o learned_a papist_n three_o way_n cediderunt_fw-la first_o the_o beatitude_n of_o man_n and_o angel_n shall_v be_v measure_v with_o the_o same_o model_n to_o wit_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o their_o grace_n &_o charity_n second_o man_n shall_v attain_v the_o measure_n of_o angelical_a glory_n by_o succeed_v into_o the_o place_n of_o they_o that_o fall_v three_o the_o hundred_o forty_o four_o cubit_n mention_v in_o that_o place_n were_z meat_z by_o a_o measure_n contain_v the_o length_n of_o a_o man_n which_o be_v the_o meat-wand_n or_o measure_v which_o the_o angel_n hold_v in_o his_o hand_n and_o this_o latter_a exposition_n of_o the_o text_n be_v the_o literal_a sense_n according_a to_o alchasar_n mensuram_fw-la ribera_n hominis_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o from_o none_o of_o these_o exposition_n do_v the_o jesuit_n argugument_n conclude_v not_o from_o the_o first_o &_o the_o last_o as_o be_v apparent_a to_o all_o man_n neither_o yet_o from_o the_o second_o for_o although_o the_o bless_a saint_n attain_v the_o measure_n of_o angelical_a glory_n and_o fill_v up_o the_o place_n which_o the_o decline_a angel_n lose_v yet_o angel_n may_v have_v some_o power_n and_o action_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o present_a ministry_n to_o the_o church_n militant_a which_o be_v diverse_a and_o distinct_a from_o the_o power_n and_o action_n of_o glorify_a saint_n for_o if_o angel_n themselves_o although_o they_o be_v equal_a in_o essential_a beatitude_n yet_o they_o differ_v in_o power_n and_o action_n minoris_fw-la according_a to_o the_o tenet_n of_o the_o school_n 1._o then_o much_o more_o man_n and_o angel_n although_o they_o partake_v in_o the_o same_o obiective_n blessedness_n yet_o they_o may_v have_v different_a action_n and_o accidental_a perfection_n and_o consequent_o angel_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o office_n may_v be_v able_a to_o know_v and_o understand_v that_o which_o bless_a saint_n do_v not_o jesuit_fw-la neither_o can_v saint_n without_o knowledge_n of_o humane_a affair_n be_v perfect_o bless_v blessedness_n be_v a_o state_n wherein_o all_o just_a and_o reasonable_a desire_n of_o nature_n be_v satisfy_v with_o uttermost_a content_n and_o who_o can_v think_v that_o saint_n full_a tua_fw-la both_o of_o glory_n and_o charity_n do_v not_o earnest_o desire_v to_o know_v such_o thing_n as_o may_v concern_v their_o honour_n do_v upon_o earth_n and_o the_o state_n of_o their_o friend_n and_o lover_n live_v in_o danger_n to_o succour_v they_o by_o their_o intercession_n of_o who_o salvation_n they_o be_v