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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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of_o faith_n that_o nothing_o befall_v a_o man_n after_o the_o first_o grace_n unless_o some_o part_n of_o mankind_n either_o merit_n or_o demerit_n that_o this_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v in_o the_o next_o thirteen_o chapter_n he_o proceed_v to_o answer_v the_o question_n quomodo_fw-la animae_fw-la talium_fw-la infantium_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la actuali_fw-la decedentium_fw-la punientur_fw-la have_v before_o speak_v of_o infant_n die_v unbaptise_v unavoidable_o that_o be_v how_o the_o soul_n of_o such_o infant_n shall_v be_v punish_v whether_o all_o equal_o or_o unequal_o and_o whether_o only_o with_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n or_o also_o of_o sense_n and_o he_o conclude_v contrary_a to_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o papist_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v both_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n and_o sense_n and_o note_v that_o that_o necesse_fw-la est_fw-la peccata_fw-la originalia_fw-la hominum_fw-la esse_fw-la inaequalia_fw-la sicut_fw-la decedentes_fw-la in_o 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