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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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fall_v into_o damnation_n answ._n herein_o they_o abuse_v god_n comfortable_a promise_n as_o if_o man_n shall_v continue_v in_o sin_n that_o grace_n may_v abound_v far_o be_v it_o all_o man_n ought_v to_o fear_v fall_v into_o any_o sin_n and_o the_o elect_a fear_n continual_o know_v their_o own_o frailty_n our_o spiritual_a security_n be_v not_o carnal_a security_n our_o faith_n be_v in_o god_n not_o in_o ourselves_o by_o his_o power_n we_o be_v keep_v not_o by_o our_o own_o he_o say_v to_o his_o people_n the_o mountain_n shall_v depart_v and_o the_o hill_n be_v remove_v but_o my_o kindness_n shall_v not_o depart_v from_o thou_o neither_o shall_v the_o covenant_n of_o my_o peace_n be_v remove_v esai_n 54.10_o but_o if_o by_o fear_n they_o mean_v fear_n without_o faith_n that_o be_v despair_v we_o believe_v that_o the_o elect_v though_o they_o fall_v into_o such_o sin_n ought_v not_o to_o despair_v or_o distrust_n god_n mercy_n as_o the_o example_n of_o david_n peter_n &c_n &c_n which_o they_o allege_v do_v evident_o confirm_v psal._n 51._o luke_n 22.31.32_o 6_o if_o no_o man_n elect_v can_v fall_v from_o his_o election_n by_o commit_v of_o any_o of_o these_o sin_n then_o to_o what_o end_n be_v repentance_n teach_v it_o be_v in_o vain_a if_o they_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v in_o condemnation_n etc._n etc._n answ._n they_o that_o teach_v such_o doctrine_n their_o religion_n be_v vain_a we_o believe_v as_o the_o elect_a can_v perish_v so_o neither_o can_v they_o continue_v in_o sin_n he_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o god_n say_v the_o apostle_n commit_v not_o sin_n 1_o joh._n 3.9_o all_o that_o true_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v elect_v do_v also_o believe_v and_o know_v that_o by_o repentance_n faith_n and_o abide_v in_o christ_n they_o must_v come_v to_o the_o end_n of_o their_o election_n the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n this_o be_v the_o way_n and_o mean_n unto_o life_n and_o without_o this_o they_o can_v see_v god_n 7_o to_o what_o end_n be_v man_n admonish_v or_o exhort_v not_o to_o receive_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o vain_a 2_o cor._n 6.1_o not_o to_o fall_v from_o their_o steadfastness_n 2_o pet._n 3.17_o etc._n etc._n if_o they_o can_v fall_v into_o they_o do_v the_o lord_n use_v word_n in_o vain_a answ._n no_o but_o these_o man_n word_n be_v vain_a for_o god_n as_o he_o have_v ordain_v man_n to_o life_n have_v also_o ordain_v his_o law_n exhortation_n threaten_n &c._n &c._n as_o mean_n to_o bring_v they_o into_o life_n he_o deal_v not_o with_o man_n as_o with_o stone_n to_o carry_v they_o into_o heaven_n by_o violence_n but_o give_v they_o repentance_n faith_n love_n zeal_n care_n and_o other_o grace_n he_o persuade_v move_v draw_v they_o to_o come_v willing_o and_o to_o continue_v careful_o and_o so_o at_o last_o save_v they_o in_o the_o next_o place_n these_o faller_n from_o grace_n seek_v to_o wrest_v the_o scripture_n which_o refute_v their_o heresy_n 84._o unto_o christ_n word_n in_o mat._n 24.24_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a they_o shall_v deceive_v the_o very_a elect_a they_o answer_v that_o the_o elect_v namely_o those_o that_o receive_v and_o obey_v the_o truth_n jesus_n christ_n and_o abide_v in_o he_o to_o the_o death_n can_v perish_v answ._n great_a be_v the_o truth_n that_o force_v the_o adversary_n to_o yield_v this_o be_v that_o which_o we_o maintain_v and_o christ_n word_n if_o it_o be_v possible_a prove_v it_o undeniable_o and_o show_v it_o to_o be_v unpossible_a that_o the_o elect_v shall_v be_v deceive_v to_o loose_v christ._n obj._n our_o controversy_n be_v whether_o those_o that_o be_v elect_v may_v fall_v out_o of_o it_o and_o not_o whether_o those_o that_o abide_v in_o it_o can_v perish_v answ._n here_o they_o will_v unsay_v that_o which_o before_o they_o say_v well_o and_o the_o controversy_n they_o make_v be_v mere_a cavil_v for_o if_o it_o be_v unpossible_a that_o the_o elect_v shall_v be_v seduce_v from_o christ_n then_o be_v it_o unpossible_a they_o shall_v perish_v and_o consequent_o it_o be_v unpossible_a that_o they_o shall_v fall_v from_o their_o election_n again_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o they_o shall_v fall_v from_o their_o election_n then_o be_v it_o possible_a they_o shall_v perish_v and_o possible_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v seduce_v from_o christ_n and_o so_o our_o saviour_n word_n will_v not_o stand_v how_o great_o be_v these_o deceiver_n fall_v themselves_o that_o seek_v so_o to_o pervert_v the_o plain_a word_n of_o christ._n object_n many_o fall_n from_o their_o election_n not_o by_o be_v deceive_v but_o willing_o forsake_v the_o truth_n against_o or_o after_o their_o enlighten_v heb._n 6_o 4_o etc._n etc._n and_o 10.26_o etc._n etc._n answ._n first_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o christ_n word_n in_o mat._n 24.24_o second_o the_o scripture_n which_o they_o cite_v say_v not_o nor_o do_v any_o scripture_n say_v that_o the_o elect_n may_v fall_v from_o their_o election_n either_o by_o deceit_n or_o willing_o three_o as_o god_n keep_v all_o his_o elect_a from_o be_v deceive_v from_o christ_n so_o he_o keep_v they_o from_o willing_a forsake_v of_o christ_n for_o he_o put_v his_o fear_n in_o their_o heart_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o depart_v from_o he_o jer._n 32.40_o he_o stablish_v they_o in_o christ_n and_o anoint_v they_o and_o seal_v they_o and_o give_v the_o earnest_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o their_o heart_n 2_o cor._n 1.21_o 22._o 1●_n an_o other_o sure_a proof_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o god_n elect_v be_v in_o joh._n 10.3.4.5.8.14.15.27.28.29_o this_o scripture_n the_o adversary_n will_v pervert_v with_o this_o gloss_n that_o so_o long_o as_o they_o continue_v christ_n sheep_n hear_v his_o voice_n and_o follow_v he_o so_o long_o they_o be_v sure_a and_o have_v safety_n in_o god_n acceptance_n etc._n etc._n but_o if_o they_o do_v evil_a and_o will_v not_o hear_v his_o voice_n than_o he_o will_v repent_v of_o the_o good_a that_o he_o promise_v jer._n 18.10_o etc._n etc._n answ._n first_o that_o by_o sheep_n be_v mean_v god_n elect_v who_o he_o will_v save_v be_v plain_a by_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o sheep_n and_o goat_n math._n 25.33_o etc._n etc._n second_o in_o john_n 10_o christ_n use_v no_o such_o word_n so_o long_o as_o they_o continue_v so_o long_o as_o they_o hear_v his_o voice_n etc._n etc._n but_o he_o plain_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o sheep_n do_v hear_v voice_n v_o 3_o that_o they_o follow_v he_o v_o 4_o that_o they_o will_v not_o follow_v a_o stranger_n neither_o know_v they_o his_o voice_n v_o 5._o that_o the_o sheep_n do_v not_o hear_v stranger_n v_o 8_o yea_o all_o christ_n sheep_n shall_v hear_v his_o voice_n v_o 16.27_o and_o he_o give_v they_o eternal_a life_n and_o they_o shall_v never_o perish_v neither_o shall_v any_o pluck_v
boast_v of_o the_o excellency_n of_o it_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o all_o man_n be_v corrupt_v with_o evil_a quality_n rom._n 2._o &_o 3●_n how_o be_v it_o that_o any_o be_v change_v into_o good_a but_o by_o the_o power_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n which_o be_v effectual_a in_o all_o his_o elect_a the_o residue_n abide_v in_o their_o sin_n because_o god_n change_v not_o nor_o renew_v their_o heart_n and_o such_o he_o never_o elect_v unto_o life_n but_o ordain_v they_o of_o old_a unto_o condemnation_n jude_n u●4_n ●4_z last_o they_o answer_v with_o absurd_a sophistry_n 92._o say_v that_o these_o word_n 1_o joh_n 2_o 19_o they_o go_v out_o from_o we_o be_v mean_v of_o lie_v spirit_n the_o antichrist_n in_o those_o person_n who_o once_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n in_o they_o and_o the_o apostle_n say_v they_o be_v never_o of_o we_o for_o five_o 21_o no_o lie_n be_v of_o the_o truth_n for_o example_n say_v they_o the_o spirit_n of_o hymeneus_n together_o with_o his_o person_n be_v in_o spiritual_a fellowship_n with_o paul_n so_o long_o as_o he_o retain_v faith_n &_o a_o good_a conscience_n but_o have_v put_v away_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o receive_v a_o lie_a spirit_n he_o go_v out_o from_o they_o in_o that_o his_o spirit_n for_o or_o because_o it_o be_v never_o of_o they_o etc._n etc._n will_v any_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n himself_o be_v antichrist_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o person_n or_o rather_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o spirit_n or_o spiritual_a power_n he_o have_v therefore_o all_o that_o this_o place_n prove_v be_v that_o lie_a spirit_n or_o antichrist_n in_o man_n person_n go_v out_o from_o the_o truth_n and_o be_v never_o of_o the_o truth_n and_o therefore_o serve_v nothing_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o elect_n can_v never_o fall_v away_o answ._n be_v ever_o plain_a scripture_n more_o violent_o wrest_v by_o any_o heretic_n the_o apostle_n say_v of_o the_o many_o antichrist_n they_o go_v out_o from_o we_o but_o they_o be_v not_o of_o we_o 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the_o apostle_n mean_v not_o person_n but_o quality_n 1_o joh._n 4.1_o for_o himself_o show_v his_o meaning_n when_o he_o say_v because_o many_o false_a prophet_n be_v go_v out_o into_o the_o world_n so_o by_o spirit_n to_o be_v try_v he_o mean_v prophet_n which_o come_v with_o spiritual_a gift_n and_o it_o be_v frequent_a in_o scripture_n to_o call_v subject_n or_o person_n by_o the_o name_n of_o adjunct_n or_o quality_n in_o they_o as_o i_o be_o against_o thou_o ê_a pride_n jer._n 50_o 31_o that_o be_v o_o thou_o most_o proud_a and_o pride_n shall_v stumble_v and_o fall_v v_o 32_o that_o be_v the_o proud_a person_n the_o poverty_n of_o the_o land_n 2_o king_n 24_o 14_o 15_o the_o poor_a people_n deceit_n or_o sloth_n roa_v not_o that_o which_o he_o take_v in_o hunt_v prov._n 14_o 27_o that_o be_v the_o deceitful_a man_n and_o many_o the_o like_a 3_o it_o be_v from_o the_o deepness_n of_o familisme_n to_o say_v that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o person_n but_o evil_a quality_n in_o man_n so_o christ_n may_v be_v hold_v no_o person_n but_o a_o godly_a quality_n in_o we_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o person_n for_o he_o say_v not_o the_o lie_n but_o the_o liar_n he_o that_o deny_v that_o jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n he_o be_v antichrist_n 1_o joh._n 2.22_o 4_o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a exposition_n of_o 1_o joh_n 2_o 19_o to_o put_v quality_n for_o person_n he_o there_o speak_v of_o antichrists_n they_o go_v out_o fro●_n we_o these_o man_n will_v have_v it_o evil_a or_o antichristian_a quality_n go_v out_o from_o we_o bu●_n what_o sense_n then_o will_v they_o make_v of_o the_o last_o branch_n of_o the_o verse_n that_o they_o may_v be_v make_v manifest_a that_o they_o be_v not_o all_o of_o we_o will_v they_o say_v some_o antichristian_a quality_n be_v of_o the_o apostle_n though_o not_o all_o the_o meaning_n be_v evident_a that_o in_o the_o church_n be_v person_n some_o good_a some_o bad_a some_o elect_a some_o reprobate●_n but_o while_o they_o abide_v and_o walk_v 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