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B20542 Believers-baptism from heaven, and of divine institution Infants-baptism from earth, and human invention. Proved from the commission of Christ, the great law-giver to the gospel-church. With a brief, yet sufficient answer to Thomas Wall's book, called, Baptism anatomized. Together with a brief answer to a part of Mr. Daniel William's catechism, in his book unto youth. By Hercules Collins, a servant of the servants of Christ. Collins, Hercules, d. 1702. 1691 (1691) Wing C5360; ESTC R224066 50,763 158

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for Men go down into the Sea So accordingly it was practised in the Apostles Time they went down into the Water which if it had not been to be dipp'd in it they need to have gone only unto it therefore how vain is that he asserts John baptized standing at the brink of the River Jordan pag. 8. This is to contradict the Word of God which saith plainly Philip and the Eunuch went both down into the Water not to the brink of it and came up out of the Water In pag. 4 5. his great Ordnance by which he thinks to do the most Execution is from 1 Cor. 10.1 2. where it is said All our Fathers were baptized unto Moses in the Cloud and in the Sea Answer 1. Consider it is said the Fathers not the Children were baptized 2. If you will have it the Children also then you must include there Beasts and Cattel for the Cloud poured Water upon them all 3. Where-ever the word Baptism is used whether it be applied to the Spirit to Sufferings or to Water it always sheweth some large measure of all So here they were baptized in the Cloud and in the Sea not properly baptized for that Ordinance was not in use then but the scope of that place is the Apostle thought fit to borrow that word Baptize for to show God's gracious protection of them in the Red-Sea as in the Wilderness he fed them with Manna from Heaven and gave them Water out of a Rock So he left them not in the Red-Sea but encompassed them about in safety by his Divine Providence with Water on each side of them and the Cloud over them as Persons are encompassed with that Element when baptized Again for the true understanding of the Word we must have recourse to the common Acceptation of it and not imagine the Spirit of God doth contradict the common Acceptation of Words among Men. When the Prophets wrote by Inspiration and the Apostles they always used such words as were vulgar and commonly accepted amongst Men so that the common acceptation of the Hebrew word Tabal among the Hebrews and Baptizo among the Greeks always signifying to dip there being other words to signify sprinkle or pour How then can pouring Rain from the Cloud be called Baptism as John Wall would needs have it though he beg for it because it can never be proved see my Book pag. 16 17. And is he not full of audacity or boldness to tell the World in pag. 8. That there is not one word that any by John or Philip were dipped when the very word properly signifieth dipping Hence the Dutch call John the Dooper And our Translators might as well have rendred baptize dip in all the places where it is as to render Judas sopt dipp'd and Christ's Vesture dipp'd in Blood being all from the same Original Word And whereas he tells the World pag. 16 17. Though the Scripture say they baptized in Aenon because there was much Water He saith It would not be enough to dip half the Body in 1. I suppose he never was there to see it but speaks by an implicit Faith 2. Common sense directs us to believe there was need of much Water to the due performance of that Ordinance or else the Holy Spirit would not have mentioned it as commodious for that Work because much Water there a little Water will sprinkle hundreds but much Water is necessary unto the due performance of this Ordinance of Baptism because it must be so done as to figure out the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ Now I would fain know how sprinkling or pouring Water upon the Face doth figure out Christ's Death Burial and Resurrection Rom. 6.1 2 4. In pag. 9. how disingenuously doth he deal with Coloss 2.12 We are buried with Christ in Baptism To follow their natural Fancy saith he the Person buried is wholly passive and must be taken in Arms laid upon the Water then Water cast upon him till covered as Earth is upon the Dead Answer This way of discourse is a kind of trifling with God's Word You are to know Similitudes do not run upon all four as we say but respect must alway be had to the chief intent and design of a Metaphor which in this Text is to hold forth the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ for our Justification and also holds forth our Death to Sin and Resurrection to a new Life This being the prime scope of the Apostle his way of discourse is nothing but to evade the strength of the Argument Whereas in pag. 10. he saith The Person baptizeth part of himself because he goeth into the Water We answer That is false because he doth not lay himself down in the Water but that is done by the Administrator he lays him along as one buried under the Water his whole Body not the upper part only to figure out Christ's lying in the Grave for as the Persons stands upright in the Water that is not Baptism but when laid along under the Water by the Administrator using the words of Institution I baptize thee in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost this is Baptism In pag. 14. he saith The Person is not baptized but his Cloaths Those things are not becoming Modesty to discourse of Let that vain Man know we do not baptize the Cloaths in the Name of the Blessed Trinity but the Person and should we baptize otherwise I fear this poor Man would be the first would reproach the Interest of Christ upon that account Whereas he chargeth B. K. pag. 80. with the whole Assembly of Baptized Believers that they were forced to try their Wits for want of those literal words Remember you keep holy the First Day Answ Our Arguments for observing the First Day do greatly satisfy our Consciences being grounded upon the Word of God Also our Arguments against Pedobaptism and for Believers Baptism also being proved from the same Divine Revelation But alas how are Men put at their Wits end to find Arguments for Pedobaptism or else they would never prefer a dark Consequence before a plain Command which is beneath the Reason of a Man nor run to the Law to prove a Gospel-Ordinance and reject God's Institution and set up Man's Invention Could he say as much for Pedobaptism as we can for the Lord's Day the Controversy would not have held so long Could he give us such Examples of Infant-Baptism as we can for our religious observing that Day we shall give him thanks And whereas in pag. 104. he quarrels because we do not Baptize always upon the First Day We do not judg we are confin'd to that Day The Lord's Supper Christ himself did institute it and practise it with his Apostles on another Day than the First Day of the Week Although we do grant it is very commendable to do such Work on such Days when retired from our Labour yet we do not think we are confin'd to that Day for
the Parties Reputation but their Principle also And one thing which caused this People called Anabaptists to be misrepresented was their Community of Goods which they alway had at Munster which was no other than the old Waldenses did and their Disciples do to this day in Poland Hungary Transylvania and many parts of Germany living in Colledges casting all into one Common Stock done by them both from Conveniency and having respect unto the Example of the Apostles and Primitive Christians as it is written in Acts 4.32 34 35. And though we do not believe Christians are now under that Obligation yet I cannot have a hard thought of any that should so do acting from the same Primitive Spirit And it would be very unchristian to conclude that such allow a Community of Women because they had their Stock and Goods in common as I fear some have uncharitably asserted from this innocent Apostolical Primitive Practice To conclude Suppose it should be granted there were some foolish Virgins in Germany under this Denomination of Anabaptists it is no more than what Christ hath told us will be Have not the Churches in all Ages had their Achan's Corah's Dathan's Abiram's their Diotrephaes But is it good Logick to say Judas had a Devil therefore all the Apostles had Devils Hath there not been always some bad in the most pure Churches of Christ For any to say there are no good Men nor good Principles in the Communion of the Church of England because some of that Communion are Executed almost every Sessions as they confess themselves to be at Tiburn this would be unjust and uncharitable And it argueth weakness for any to run upon Extreams because of others Errors As some of the Ministers in Holland the Followers of Meno Symonis and Theodoricus upon the Munster Report have refused the bearing Arms Offensive or Defensive or taking any Oaths or bearing any Rule Office or Government in the Common-Wealth lest they should seem to abet such Principles It is good to keep the golden Mean between both Extreams Now let us all labour to put on Charity the Bond of Perfection think no Evil nor speak Evil of no Man Judg not that ye be not judged Why dost thou judg thy Brother or set at naught thy Brother We shall all stand before the Judgment-Seat of Christ Let that great Instance of Despair in John Child never be forgotten that which lay with the most weight upon his Conscience before he hang'd himself was the Sin for his Writing and Speaking against this very People as may be seen in that Book of his Despair And those Scriptures were of great weight upon his Soul He that offends one of these little Ones which believe in me it were better a Mill-stone were hanged about his Neck and he cast into the midst of the Sea O said he I have touched the Apple of God's Eye and says he this deserves a tearing in pieces to sit and speak against thy Brother and slander thy own Mother's Son Psal 50. Let all the People of God have such Thoughts speak such Words use such Carriages one toward another and one of another as we may have no occasion to repent of when every secret Thing shall be brought into Judgment CHAP. XI Containing a brief but sufficient Answer to John Wall 's Book called Baptism Anatomized that he may never more boast as formerly that none have answered him I Query 1. Whether this Man doth not act against the Light of Conscience Experience and Holy Scripture when he asserts indefinitely The Infants of Believers have by the free Gift of God in the Covenant of Grace a right to Remission of Sins and so a right to Baptism Come and stand before the Bar of God's Word and make answer Had Cain Ishmael Esau Absolom Samuel's Sons of Belial all Children of Believers a right to Remission of Sins Query 2. Whether there is not good ground given unto Persons to believe in reading a great part of this Book from pag. 25 to 41 168. that he is of Origen's Opinion The whole World may be saved at last and then why not the Devils too For saith he pag. 168. if all Infants sinned in Adam 's Loins when Adam was restored they were restored in his Loins and when born they were born in a Gospel-Covenant In Pag. 26. God freely forgave Adam and his Posterity in him their Sin Now we know the whole World is Adam 's Children then the whole World is in the Covenant of Grace and so the whole must be baptized and if in the Covenant of Grace for any thing I see the whole World may be saved Abundance of these Assertions he hath in his Book But behold it is a Babel a Book of Confusion for though he tells us when the Parents believe pag. 27 28. their Baptism is a sign of the Remission of Sin to their Infants as to themselves and that their Infants are in the Covenant of Grace with them it being made to Adam and his Posterity Yet Cain Ishmael Esau he asserts were cast out of this Covenant of Grace when grown up and have no Remission of Sins What have Believers Infants Remission sealed unto them yet no Remission Will Men tell a Lie in the Name of the Lord to tell us that Baptism is a sign of Remission of Sin and yet to tell us this very Person may be damned Are not these Self-contradictions and holy Scripture-contradictions which saith Whom God justifieth and pardoneth them he glorifieth Rom. 8.30 In my Book this is more fully answered pag. 29. Query 3. Whether his Language favours not more of Ashdod than Canaan and whether it be not full of hard Speeches against those which John Child paid dearly for and of whom Christ saith It were better a Mill-stone were tied about his Neck and he cast into the midst of the Sea For in his Preface he accounts the Ministers of Christ Ministers of Satan transform'd to deceive the Souls of the Simple And in pag. 3. falsly saith if not maliciously The Anabaptists deny Infants to be redeemed with Christ's Blood p. 31. And p. 55. he saith The Anabaptists hold Christ hath no Lambs in his Fold but all Sheep because we will not own Pedobaptism And pag. 65. What a wicked Principle are those Men of that deny Infants the sign of Remission of Sins and that we make an Idol of Baptism is his Assertion And because we assert Christ was baptized about thirty Years of Age as our Example Behold saith he what windings and turnings by any cover of vain deceit Men lie in wait to deceive by turning away from the Truth and turning unto Fables And further saith pag. 10. We hypocritically plead for that we practise not Whether this Man's Discourse favours as being under the Power of a divine or diabolical Spirit is left to the Godly to judg and whether any heed ought to be taken of such a Person 's Writing In pag. 139. he asserts We damn
by its Parents in Baptism or that they made any Covenant with God then 5. It cannot be an Affront to all the Godly because there are thousands that deny the thing and I am bold to say it were the Holy Apostles alive now they would not have been affronted for any to deny their Parents dedicating Children in Baptism or Children denying they made any Covenant then because it 's a thing God never revealed 6. It cannot be a rejecting of Christ as he saith because there are thousands which own Christ and accept him for King Priest and Prophet who deny Infants Baptism and look upon it as nothing but an Invention of Men. And it 's very severe to say that those many thousands who now deny and disown their Parents baptizing them in Infancy that they do reject Christ their Saviour or the Blessings of the Gospel 7. It cannot be a Self-killing Cruelty to my own Soul nor a damning Sin not to agree to or refuse the Covenant made in Infant-Baptism though I do not refuse to be the Lord's and in sincerity care to know love believe obey and worship him and serve him all my Days and depend upon him through Christ for all Happiness yet this I do not because my Parents or Sureties did covenant or promise I should do it nor because I my self made any such Covenant in my Infancy for as much as it is all unscriptural and without a Divine Rule therefore cannot be Self-killing nor Cruelty to my own Soul nor a damning Sin as this Gentleman saith for the damning Sin is final Impenitence and Unbelief Mark 16.16 He that believeth not shall be damned Persons may believe the Covenant God hath made and be saved and though they deny the Covenant in Infant-Baptism they cannot be damned I do not believe in time in Christ because either I my self did in Infancy covenant so to do or because my Parents or Sureties covenanted for me but I deny it because an human Invention Yet I believe and obey from more solid Considerations 1. Because I am commanded to it by God 1 John 3.23 2. Because his great Love constrains me 2 Cor. 5.14 3. Because of those glorious Promises made to believing and obedient Souls 2 Cor. 6.17 18. Chap. 7.1 4. I am obliged unto it from the Law of Creation Psal 95.6 5. Without Faith and Obedience I am in danger of losing my Soul Therefore for Mr. Williams to tell the World It is a damning Sin not to agree to or refuse the Covenant made in Infancy is a new Doctrine which hath no footing in the unerring Rule of the Word of God If you will see the damning Sin read Mr. Pool's Synopsis on John 3.18 He that believes not the Doctrine of Christ and doth not upon the Terms of the Gospel receive him for his Saviour is already condemned for his obstinate Infidelity which is the certain Cause of Damnation And further The not believing in the only Son of God who is able to save to the utmost all that regularly trust in him is such a contempt of the merciful alsufficient sole Means of Salvation that 't is absolutely necessary and most just that all those who refuse to be saved by him should perish by themselves Thus you see what the damning Sin is Therefore Mr. Williams's Gospel and Doctrine is to be looked upon as New in this Thing and not agreeing to the old Gospel to assert That it is a damning Sin the Heart of all Sin a rejecting Christ our Saviour a renouncing the Blessings of the Gospel Rebellion against my Maker Ingratitude and Perjury to my Redeemer gross Injustice to my Parents an Affront to all the Godly and a self-killing Cruelty to my own Soul not to agree or refuse to agree to that Covenant made in Baptism in Infancy though there be not one word in all the Holy Scripture to warrant that Practice or Principle 8. If refusing to agree to the Covenant to which my Baby-Baptism engaged me be the Heart of all Sin then I for my part and many thousands more must be guilty of all Sin for it is the Heart of all Sin saith this Gentleman For my own part I do profess that I do not observe any Gospel-Duty neither believe nor repent by virtue of any Covenant my Parents made or was made by my self in my Baby-Sprinkling because God did never require such a Covenant of my Parents nor of my Self who was wholly uncapable of such a thing in Infancy But the Reason why I desire to observe the Terms of the Gospel is because it 's God's Requirements and Command That we believe on the Name of the only begotten Son of God 1 John 3.23 And since I believed I have made that Covenant with God in Baptism which you say pag. 131. was made in Infancy which I never remember nor can I believe it is true viz. I have engaged against being governed by Satan or the Flesh as my Rulers and against taking up this World's Goods as my Portion and against the Customs of the Men of the World as my Guide therefore I reject that Baptism because a Custom of the World Now should I refuse to agree to this Covenant which I made after I believed then I were a great Sinner indeed because one of my own making But if I keep this Covenant tho I refuse to agree to that Covenant made in my Infant-Baptism I am a great Sinner saith Mr. Williams for it 's the Heart of all Sin If the Heart of all Sin then of Murder Adultery Sabbath-breaking Incest Heresy Drunkenness Idolatry Sorcery Lying Covetousness Railing Robbery Buggery Extortion Envy Witchcraft Contention Gluttony Rebellion Perjury Ingratitude Injustice an Affront to the Godly Self-killing In a word saith Mr. Williams it 's a damning Sin Now it 's high time for the poor Baptists to cry Lord have Mercy upon us for this Gentleman damns us all at once But this is our Comfort he shall not be our Judg nor that Doctrine he hath delivered but both he and we must be tried by another Gospel and another Doctrine than he preacheth upon this Subject And whereas he calls Baptism in Infancy a Seal of the Covenant pag. 130. Pray Sir what did it seal to the Infant then did it seal the Love of God pardon of Sin Reconciliation or Adoption Justification or Remission If so as you grant by referring to Acts 2.39 then Sir if they are justified and their Sins remitted then they must be glorified saith the Apostle Rom. 8.30 Whom he justified them he glorified I suppose you may be for final Perseverance if so then not an Infant of these can miscarry But if you say these things may be sealed in Infancy and yet be never enjoyed for want of actual Faith How then is a Person pardoned and not pardoned justified and not justified in Covenant and not in Covenant these are Contradictions with a witness What! is the Covenant sealed and nothing in the Covenant enjoyed doth God seal to a Blank Men are more wise than so to do for there is always something antecedent to the Seal When a Covenant is sealed among Men something is sealed unto them so when God seals 't is not to a Blank but it 's his Covenant of Grace sealed After you believed you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise Ephes 1.13 Mark 't is not before they believed but after they believed they were sealed Therefore Infant-Baptism is no Seal of the Covenant of Grace for they do not believe But after Persons believe then the Sacraments of Baptism and the Lord's Supper are Seals of the Covenant of Grace but not before And whereas Mr. Williams asserts pag. 130. Believers and their Infant-Seed are in the Covenant We reply This Word Covenant is an unintelligible word for not one in an Hundred if one in a Thousand knows what is meant by it I know but two ways of being in the Covenant of Grace either Absolutely or Conditionally 1. No Believers dare say all their Children are Absolutely in the Covenant of Grace because there is no falling away from it But behold how many of God's People have their Children die of whom they have little hope Or 2. they are in the Covenant of Grace conditionally that is to say If they repent and believe Upon this Condition and on these Terms the Children of Unbelievers are in the Covenant of Grace also and have the same right to the Seals of the Covenant as the Children of Believers have and there are none to have the Seals or Signs of the Covenant but those whom God hath ordained and appointed should have them which are those who repent and actually believe For mark though Lot was a holy Man yet he had no such priviledg to Circumcise his Infant-Seed because it was limited unto Abraham and his Seed and the Male Sex and the eighth Day appointed by a special Command Even so Baptism is limited by a special Command of God to Actual Believers FINIS ERRATA PReface Page 3. line 3 4. read two or three hours In the Book PAg. 35. Marg. r. Gen. 17. P. 41. l. 14. r. fit or unfit P. 55. Marg. l. 6. for Christ r. John P. 69. l. 4. r. Church of Rome P. 90. Col. 1. l. 1. f. Persons r. Believers P. 95. l. 15. r. Bishop of Munster P. 100. l. 2. f. bave r. bad P. 118. l. 25 26. r. the word Baptist