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A47160 A narrative of the proceedings of George Keith at Coopers-Hall in the city of Bristol, the 14th day of August 1700, in detecting the errors of Benjamin Cool, and his brethren the Quakers at Bristol which were read before a great auditory of ministers and other citizens and inhabitants : and divers other memorable passages between him and the Quakers at Bristol, particularly a dialogue at Coopers-Hall between a Quaker cobler and G. Keith, and another dialogue between some Quakers and G. Keith at B. Cool's house in Bristol : together with some of the chiefest Quotations out of the books of B. Cool and W. Penn, read at the same place, the same day / by George Keith. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1700 (1700) Wing K185; ESTC R25716 12,132 31

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proper nor Intelligible Christ Quaker Page 243 the second Edition Is there any Place tells us without Interpretations whether the Socinian or Trinitarian be in the Right in their differing Apprehensions of the Three that that bear Record c. Also the Homousian and Arian about Christ's Divinity or the Papists or Protestants about Transubstantion If then things are left Undefin'd and Undetermined I mean Literally and Expresly in the Scripture c. Christ Quaker Page 246. Most Perswasions are agreed about the Absolute Necessaries in Religion from that Light and Witness God has placed in Mans Conscience viz. That God is that he is a Rewarder of them that diligently seek him that the way of God is away of Purity Patience Meekness c. without which no Man can see the Lord Nay they accord in some considerable matters superadded as some of them speak to wit that God was manifested extraordinarily in the Flesh that he gave his Life for the World that such as believe and obey his Grace in their Hearts receive Remission of Sins and Life Everlasting Note He makes this last none of the Absolute Necessaries but superadded furely W. Penn did Nap when he Writ this Christ Quaker Page 227. By a Rule I apprehend some Instrument by and through which this great and universal Rule meaning the Spirit may convey its Directions such a subordinate Secondary and Declaratory Rule we never said several parts of Scripture were not Christ Quaker Page 215 216. If the Scriptures are the Rule they must be so in the Original or Copies if in the Original that is not Extant and so there would be no Rule in being for the last of it that was Extant was the Evangelist John's History at Ephesus not seen almost this thousand years If the Copies must be the Rule it were to be Wished we knew which were the nighest to the Original there being above thirteen in Number this is undetermined and for ought we see Indeterminable And that which further confirms what I say is the Variety of Readings which we find among those Copies amounting to several thousands and if the Copies cannot how can the Translations be the Rule so various if not differing from the true Sence of the Copies in many things and one from another Page 218. Furthermore If the Scriptures were the Rule of Faith and Life c. then because they cannot be the Rule in the Translations supposing the Ancient Copies were exact it cannot be the Rule to force the greatest part of Mankind indeed to none b●● Learned Men which neither answers the Promise relating to Gospel Times which is Universal nor the necessity of all Mankind for a Rule of Faith and Life Note I desire the Readers to Peruse my late Book Printed at London 1700 By John Gwillim called Bristol Quakerism Expos'd in Answer to B. Cool's Book called Sophistry Detected as also my Book called The Deism of W. Penn and his Brethren Printed at London by B. Aylmer at the Sign of the Three Pigeons in Cornhill where he will find W. Penn's and B. Cool's Sophistical Arguments against the Holy Scriptures being the Rule of Faith and Life to us Christians sufficiently Answered and their Distinction of the Light Within being the Primary Rule and the Scriptures being the Secondary Rule clearly Refuted Also let them Read my fourth Narrative and the late Printed Sheet called A Serious Call to the Quakers c. Another Printed Sheet shewing the Contemptible Names that the Quakers chief Teachers have given the Scriptures Note Reader That I give this Paper the Title At a Propos'd Conference c. because it was really not only design'd but propos'd by me to B. Cool the Quakers chief Speaker now at Bristol and others of his Brethren concern'd with him in his said Book called Sophistry Detected both by Word and Writ But if some Quakers were Present yet none of them appeared to say any thing in Vindicarion of B. Cool or his Brethren only after the Quotations were Read one Quaker who said he was a Cobler ask'd G. Keith some Questions to the effect following Qua. George I have a Question to ask thee G. Keith Say what is it Qua. Doth God require of me or any Man an Impossibility G. Keith No. Qua. What Rule hath God given me that I may be Perfect as God is Perfect G. Keith Do ye mean by Perfect as God is Perfect to be equal to God in Perfection or only to be like him Qua. I understand not that Distinction but I ask What Rule hath God given me that I may be Perfect as God is Perfect G. Keith As Perfect signifies to be like unto God the Rule which God hath given you and all Christians is the Holy Scripture but ye and all of us need the inward help of the Holy Spirit to Enable us to Understand Believe and Obey the Holy Scripture Qua. But I cannot Read the Scripture G. Keith But ye can hear them Read and Expounded by Preaching and Faith comes by Hearing as well as by Reading Qua. If I Obey the Grace of God in my Heart that tells me I should not Sin is not that sufficient to me for my Salvation seeing I cannot Read the Scripture G. Keith I have told you already tho' ye cannot Read the Scripture ye may hear them Read to you But by this it appears ye think the Scripture is not your Rule but something within you but that ye think your Rule within you whether is it Christ or the common Illumination given to all Mankind In this B. Cool Varieth and sometimes makes it to be Christ sometimes the common Illumination given to all Mankind but if it be the one it cannot be the other which of the two is it say ye Qua. I understand not the Distinction G. Keith The Distinction is easie to be Understood Christ is distinguish'd from his Illumination as the Agent or Workman is from his Action or Working what is your Trade Qua. I am a Cobler G. Keith Do ye understand the Distinction between a Cobler and Cobling Qua. I do G. Keith Hath the Light within you Taught you without Scripture that if ye sincerely Repent of your Sins God will forgive you your Sins for Christ's Sake who Dyed for you Qua. I am not come so far yet I do not say that I am Perfect G. Keith Tho' ye are not Perfect yet ye ought to have such a Belief that if ye sincerely Repent of your Sins God will forgive you your Sins for Christ's Sake who Dyed for you hath the Light within you without Scripture Taught you this Belief Qua. I have told you I cannot Read the Scripture G. Keith And I have as oft told you ye can hear them Read Do ye believe that Christ Dyed for you Qua. Yea G. Keith By what Rule do you Believe this Or hath the Light within you without Scripture Taught you this Qua. Is not Christ within the hope of Glory G. Keith Hath Christ within you
A NARRATIVE Of the PROCEEDINGS of George Keith AT COOPERS-HALL IN THE City of BRISTOL The 14th Day of August 1700. In Detecting the ERRORS of Benjamin Cool And his Brethren the QUAKERS at BRISTOL Which were Read before a great Auditory of Ministers and other Citizens and Inhabitants And divers other Memorable Passages between Him and the QUAKERS at Bristol Particularly a DIALOGUE at Coopers-Hall between a Quaker Cobler and G. Keith And another Dialogue between some Quakers and G. Keith at B. Cool's House in Bristol TOGETHER WITH Some of the Chiefest Quotations out of the Books of B. Cool and W. Penn Read at the same Place the said Day By GEORGE KEITH London Printed for J. Gwillim in Bishopsgate-Street 1700. A NARRATIVE OF George Keith's Proceedings at Coopers-Hall BRISTOL AT a Proposed Conference at Coopers-Hall in Bristol the 14th day of August 1700. betwixt some Quakers and George Keith divers Ministers and many Citizens and Inhabitants of the City of Bristol being present then and there did declare that they heard George Keith fairly and fully by clear Evidence to their full Satisfaction prove out of the Books of W. Penn and B. Cool the following Positions First That all Mankind had but one General Rule of Faith and Practice and that that Rule was not the Scripture but the Light in every Man which sometimes they say is Christ sometimes a Common Illumination And the Arguments of W. Penn which G. Keith did Read out of W. Penn's Book called A Discourse of the General Rule of Faith and Practice did plainly appear to the Auditory to be Levelled against their Authority Perfection and Certainty as to all the peculiar Doctrines of the Christian Faith and Religion and particularly as to the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity against the Arians c. and the Doctrine of the Sacrament of the Lords Supper against the Popish Transubstantiation Secondly That that Outward Person that suffered at Jerusalem was not properly the Son of God Thirdly That Faith in the History of Christs outward Manifestation has been a Deadly Poyson these later Ages have been infected with And notwithstanding the Endeavours used by B. Cool the Quakers chief Speaker now at Bristol in his Book called Sophistry Detected to clear W. Penn and render him sound as touching the three Points above-mentioned the said B. Cool denying them to have been truly charged on W. Penn by G. Keith and calling his so charging them palpable Untruths yet by the Quotations read by G. Keith out of B. Cools said Book called Sophistry Derected the Auditory above-mentioned did then and there declare that B. Cool's Defences of W. Penn touching these three Points were insufficient and invalid and that what B. Cool had called Palpable Untruths G. Keith had proved out of B. Cool's said Book to be Palpable Truths and that they were all three owned and justified by B. Cool As also that the Plain Tendency of the Book of W. Penn called A Discourse of the general Rule of Faith and Practice and of the Book of Ben. Cool called Sophistry Detected Being a pretended answer to a Printed half Sheet by George Keith called A Synopsis of W. Penn's Deism by the several Quotations Read by G. Keith and presented by him to the View of any who were willing to inspect into them which some of the Ministers did appear'd to the said Auditory to be to Overthrow the Christian Faith and to Introduce Deism and Heathenism in it's stead As also G. Keith did make it clearly appear by the Quotations he Read out of B. Cool's said Book that the Reflections B. Cool had cast on G. Keith were Unjust Uncharitable and Unchristian Some of the Chief Quotations and Passages Collected out of B. Cool's Sophistry Detected and W. Penn's Christian Quaker and Read at Coopers-Hall the 14th of August 1700. On the First Head PAge 2. The Creating Word that was with God and was God in whom was the Life and that Life the Light of Men must be the general Rule of Mens Knowledge of Faith and Obedience Page 4. The Spirit is the Primary Rule even for Believing the Scriptures themselves Page 4. If the Illumination of the Holy Spirit is the Primary Rule to those that have the Holy Scriptures it is much more the Rule for them that have them not but the first is True therefore the last Page 4. There is but one General Rule to both Page 7. That one Universal Rule being Christ it is impossible for Men to exalt him too much who is God over all Blessed For-ever Page 9. But that the common and ordinary Discoveries of the Light within Universally given to all Mankind as all Mankind adheres to and obeys the same is that Universal or General Rule of Faith and Life we shall I hope never Deny On the Second Head Page 4. Pref. He Grants W. Penn says in a close Controversie with an Adversary That the Outward Person was not Properly the Son of God In the Book Page 11. He quotes W. Penn saying But that the Outward Person that Suffered at Jerusalem was properly the Son of God we utterly Deny Page 12. He says this Passage is so far from being Erroneous rightly understood that nothing can be Truer Nevertheless since many People understand not the Terms of Proper and Improper and are apt to Judge of things according to their Carnal Conceptions for that Reason I should have been glad the Expression had never been used On the Third Head Page 14. And he that Obeys this Light is a Child of Light a Child of God a true Christian Page 28. If the Doctrine of the Light Within be the Universal Rule of Faith and Life to all Mankind it would bring all Men to be of one Religion undoubtedly says he it is so Page 32. He quotes W. Penn saying in his Address to Protestants second Edition p. 119. Let us but Soberly consider what Christ is saith he we shall the better know whether Moral Men are to be reckon'd Christi-ans What is Christ but Meekness Justice and Mercy Patience Charity and Vertue in Perfection Page 32. This Doctrine of making Jesus the Light of the World viz. The Light Within the Rule of Faith and Practice would reconcile not only Papists and Protestants Arians and Homousians Socinians and Trinitarians but even Jews and Christians this he grants is W. Penn's Assertion and says B. Cool And truly I am very apt to think so too Page 15. The distinction betwixt Moral and Christian and the making Holy Life Legal and Faith in the History of Christs outward Manifestation has been a deadly Poyson these later Ages have been infected with which undoubtedly is a great Truth truly distinguished saith B. Cool Oh this Passage he quotes out of W. Penn some Quotation out of W. Penn's Christian Quaker against the Authority Perfection and Certainty of the Holy Scriptures In Page 213. W. Penn Argues against the Scriptures being the Rule from their not being plain to the Spiritual Man nor