Faith to Faith his Parenthesis from Christ as without is needleâ—s and impertinent seeing neither Christ nor his saving Grace are divided whether without or within or both and the same Grace Virtue Spirit Life and Redemption that was in Christ as without is received from the same Christ as within Object But if Christ's Redemption lay altogether where they place it in bringing Mâ—â— off from Sin and Vnrighteousness unto Holiness and Perfection even such as to live without Sin in this World then Redemption cannot be Vniversal page 23. Animad Here we must distinguish to shew how groundless this Objection is for 1 st His Redemption is Universal for all Mankind as it is in him respecting his being an universal Sacrifice and Propitiation by his Death and Blood for all mankind while we were Enemies Christ died God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself the Price is universal But 2 dly It is they who only believe in him that receive this Redemption and they who are not only reconciled through his Death but also saved by his Life who by him have received the Attonement or Peace made by him so that though the Redemption and Price as in Christ or on his Part be universal yet the End thereof is not received by all but only by those who believe and live unto him and so the Glory of our Redemption Salvation we ascribe unto him who gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all Iniquity which answereth the End and manifesteth the compleatness of that Redemption for which Christ gave himself Object I Do not think that the Quaker alone is in the Dark about this matter yet these Men I count here are most of all out they look upon the Works of Christ's Redemption to be the Work of Christ within so they speak and so they think altogether and then wilfully confound Sanctification and Redemption Animad This is a Mistake we do not confound them yet must confess they are received together as inseparable where Christ is made unto any Wisdom Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption for the receiving Redemption through his Blood even the Forgiveness of Sins cannot be without Sanctification which is both gradually carried on and effected by the Work of Christ within although I do confess Redemption was manifestly or publickly set forth and declared by Christ as without in his Sufferings Death and Blood as the Introduction and Preparation of the Way into the New Covenant he consecrated and set open the New and Living Way through the Vail that is to say his Flesh. Object The Quaker doth place Christ's Redemption in bringing us up to these Terms the Performance whereof is indeed our Gospel Perfection but he is here so miserably out that he both mistakes the Termes or this Perfection as if it were no less then the fulfilling of every Jot of the Law it self and also contradicts himself in the best Tenet he hath Animad Though we confess Christ Râ—demption to be twofold both as in him and in us respectâ—ng his Fulfilling the Law his suffering for us as also his fulfilling the Righteousness of the Law in us yet our Accuser is herein either overâ—een in wording his Matter or mistaken in the Matter it self for 1 st We place not Christ's Redemption in bringing us to fulfil every jot of the Law it self for much of it is abolished as the litteral and shadowy Part though the Substance thereof remains not to be made void through Faith but established yet this we have not obtained either by our own Strength or Imitation of the Letter but through the Righteousness of Faith in Christ bringing us up to the Word of Faith in our Hearts to obey it and do it so that our Redemption by him is not to serve in the oldness of the Letter which made nothing perfect but in the Newness of the Spirit which perfectly sanctifies 2 dly And in this we do not think our selves out but in even the Truth and within even in the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus not out in the Letter but within in the Spirit not out in the Righteousness of the Law which Paul calls his own but within in the Righteousness of Faith walking in the Spirit 3 dly And herein we are not conscious of Self contradiction in any of our Tenets much less in the best this Objection is taken off by our confessing Vniversal Grace and Redemption in Christ towards all and for all Mankind and yet this Grace and Redemption not taking effect in all but only in them who believe and repent which Men are not irresistably forced to but generally called and 〈◊〉 to Faith being also offered unto all by Christ and the World being reproved of their Sin of Unbelief by the Spirit of Truth Sect. XIII It is true what he saith viz. Our Divines we call orthodox do generally stumble upon this same Stone in their Dâ—nyal of Christ's Redemption to be Vniversal that he hath procured that all may be saved if they believe and repent which are our new Terms unless he hath procured also that they believe and repent but it is the Elect only do believe and repent and therefore they hold Redemption only of the Elect. Animad 'T is very true there are too many that stumble about this and deny Christ's Universal Redemption and the Sufficiency thereof and so oppose the general Extent of saving Grace partially limiting and restraining the universal Sense and intent of those Testimonies of Scripture which assert that Christ gave himself a Ransom for all and that by the Grace of God he tasted Death for every Man c. these they confine only to the Elect herein they are not Orthodox but are stumbling in the dark Object Let the Quaker then know it is not Christ's bringing Man up to the Terms of God but his bringing down God to the Terms of Man that is such as are suitable to his fallen State wherein the great Work he hath done for us is to be fixed page 25. Animad Truly the Quaker doth not know how to own this Doctrine in the Termes of it on either Hand as it is stated for Christ came to bring Man up to God and those Tearms that he hath tendered in Christ for Life and Salvation are his Tearms and God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself though it was God's free Love thus far to condescend in the Son of his Love for Man's Restoration yet Man must also be brought up to meet God in his own Covenant of Life in Christ who is the Mediator not to bring God down to the Tearms of Fallen Man but as a Mediator which is not of one but betwixt two both to bring God's Love and evidence his Kindness to man and also to restore Man out of his Fallen Estate into Covenant and Reconciliation with God so as God and his Creature meet in his Son Christ Jesus who is the Son of his Love Seeing it is
of the Condition of the Covenant of Grace can consist with Let a Man's Sins be what thâ—y will which Words have a Tendence to an Evil Liberty for a justified State is plainly opposed as contrary to that of the Unrighteous in this 1 Cor. 6. 9 10 11. Object It 's further added Though we fail in our Duty we fulfil the Condition page 18. Animad How can that be if the Covenant of Grace or Law of Faith be the Condition which we are to observe and obey as our Duty so far as it concerns us both as enjoyned and assisted by Christ Jesus our Life and Righteousness Is it not our Duty to fulfil the Condition and do we yet fail in our Duty whilest we fulfil it No sure As to David's Heart being perfect and that he kept God's Commandments or Precepts 1st This of his Heart being perfect respects what was sincere and uprght in David as a Spirit without Guile a sincere Desire Intention and Resolution of Heart towards God though for a Time he had Failings and was besâ—t with Temptations yet the Lord had Regard to his Uprightness c. 2 dly David's keeping God's Commandments or Precepts was when he was really clear and actually obedient walking in the Wayes of God and not as consistant with his sinning in the Matter of Uriah c. for which he underwent great Judgment and deep Affliction often imploring Mercy and Pardon praying for Cleansing Washing c. 3dly As he was a Man after God's own Heart he was according to and in God's Choice and Promise he stood in the Election The Lord hath sought him a Man after his own Heart 1 Sam. 13. 14. I have found David the Son of Jesse a Man after mine own Heart which shall fulfil all my Will this being fulfilled he was in a precious State not guilty nor condemnable for after God's own Heart was both â—is Sincerity Perfection and Purity Surely being a Man after God's own Heart and fulfilling all his Will could not concern David's worst but his best State Object But to answer that Complaint That his Sins were more then the Hairs upon his Head this Writer saith There are Sins consistant with Sincerity and inconsistant with it Animad Though I would as favourably construe his Words as I can yet this Phrase Sins consistant with Sincerity I can neither own to be sound scriptural or of a good Tendence but tending to gratifie both the sin-pleasing Professors unrighteous Imputarians and loose Antinomians of our Times for though I do graâ—t â—hat a sincere-minded Man may possibly be overtaken with a Fault through some great Temptation or Tryal yet not loose his Sincerity though it be clouded but retain his Integrity as Job did his until he be fully recovered restored and delivered wherein he differs from him that wilfully or designedly sins or is obstinate or wittingly dissembles and playes the Hypocrite yet no Sin or Neglect of Duty is consistant with the Sincerity it self which God hath begotten in the Creature but there is a daily or constant Travail and Warring in the sincere Mind and Soul until the Sin be overcome and really done away as it was with Paul when with his Mind he served the Law of God had travailed in Spirit for Deliverance from that Law of Sin which did embondage or captivate his Members in which low Estate of warring God hath an Eye to the upright and sincere Mind that waits upon him and subjects to his inward Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and by his Spirit of Adoption doth help his Creature 's Infirmities until all that offends be subdued and the Soul becomes more then a Conquerer And so as for his Distinction between the Breach of our Duty and the Condition while he discourseth for Failing of the first and yet a Fuâ—filling the latter I cannot reconcile him herein nor own such Distinctions either as necessary or consistant with the real Experience of a Justified State wherein the Law of the Spirit of Life or Law of Faith in Christ is answered and followed and the Effect thereof experienced in them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit and in them the Righteousness Morality Good Order and Duty both respecting the Law and Gospel Nature and Grace is fulfilled by Christ Jesus and performed through his spiritual Assistance It 's true there is a Sin unto Death as he saith and a Sin not unto Death and no better then sinning unto Death can I look â—pon Men's Continuance in any known Sin or Unrighteousness all their Life Time against the holy and just Law of God in the Conscience the Sin of Impenitence as well as of Unbelief being persisted in incurs Death as it 's granted that David in the Mâ—tâ—er wherein he sinned in that present State could not have been saved if he had dyed but surely if the Condition of true Faith and Repentance be performed and the Nature there of be experienced the other Acts of Duty and Obedience will follow for is there any Sin or Neglect of Duty that 's not to be repented of and ceas'd from or can a true Believer see any Sin or Failing without believing or exercising Faith in his Warring against it till he overcome and he hath out grown it No sure he attains to the Accomplishment of his Warfare through valiantly fighting the Good Fight of Faith he reacheth unto the End of his Race by unwearied travailing on without Fainting Sect. X. To his saying Behold here a Kind of Heaven opened unto you who are the Children of God and fear his Name where all your Sins and Iniquities are removed and where every one of you are righteous and perfect and sin not for this is the Benefit and Fruit of Christ's Death and Redemption that he hath delivered you from that Law which you break Animad 1st That Heaven where all Sins and Iniquities are removed and where the Children of God are perfect and sin not is not of this Man's or any of their opening who oppose perfection of Duty and argue for Sin 's continuance in God's Children whilest in this Life for that Heaven wherein dwells Righteousness and they are all Righteous and sin not admits not of Sin to have any Place in it the Will of God being perfectly done therein 2 dly That 's the old Heaven and old Earth wherein dwells Unrighteousness and these must â—e shaken and removed for the New to take Place 3 dly Christ is the End of the Law for Righteousness and not to indulge Transgression or any Breach of that Law which is Holy Just and Good fulfilled and not destroyed in the New Creature and Covenant 4 thly 'T is true as he saith That Christ hath brought us under a New Law the Law of Grace which requires nothing of us but what sub Ratione Conditions we do keep for he gives his holy Spirit to enable us to the
confest page 25. Our Faith and Repentance are a Fruit of his Spirit They must be real and true such as admit not of the Mixture of Sin nor of the Continuance thereof Object As for his saying It is true that no Men but sin and it is true what they sâ—y the regenerate sin not the Scriptures say both Animad Why are we then so much opposed and striven with either for holding this Perfection or that some Men sin not which we see not consistant with no Man but sins The Scriptures say both what that there is none but he may sin and yet he that is born of God cannot sin these then must both be considered with reference unto two Dispensations Estates or Degrees otherwise it would render the Scripture inconsistant but the Scripture cannot be broken Object The Child of God sins not so as that Sin hath Dominion over him when he sinneth page 25. Animad This still giveth too much Liberty and reflects upon the Child of God contrary to the Apostle John's Testimony of him 1 John 3. 5. 18. Psal. 119. 1 2 3. Object The prevailing Interest of his Soul is for God above the Flesh and the World and so long he is right in God's Sight right Righteous or perfect according to the Law of Grace although there be a Thousand Things wherein he might do more Good or less Evils then he doth and so is Imperfect Vnrighteous and a manifold Sinner c. page 25. Animad This is still worse and worse and a gross Reflection upon the Child of God in this latter Part which is inconsistant with the former and to me appears no other then Confusion which is a Fruit of Sin and Transgression for that the Child of God should be thus Righteous and Perfect according to the Law of Grace which is Perfect Pure and Holy and yet be chargeable with a Thousand Things wherein he might do more Good or less Evil then he does this appears very Unnatural as well as Inconsistant That We plead Justification according to some Law that we are Innocent according to that Law page 25 Is true and that is the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ the Law of Faith the Law of â—râ—ce the Law of the New Covenant which admits not of the Continuance of these or any Evils he seems to accuse the Child of God with Object This being seen they come on too fast that they sin not before they have learned to distinguish between Law and Law Righteousness and Righteousness Justification and Justification Sin and Sin page 25 26. Animad Though we do not judge it necessary for the Child of God to learn all this Man's Distinctions yet we cannot own his Charge that we come on too fast as not to sin for we know though it be an Estate attainable yet it is not by making haste nor by Man's own Willing or Running but by a Dependence on the Grace of God and it is sufficient for us that we have experimentally learned to distinguish what is necessary both in our spiritual Travail and conducing to a happy End which is a REAL RIGHTEOVSNESS and JVSTIFICATION according to the Law of Faith and Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus partaken of and enjoyed within Sect. XIV I must say with them where they have our Divines on the blind Side they are justified according to the Law of Faith or as they are judged at the Throne of Grace but no Flesh living can be justified according to the Law of Works Animad But then he keeps not to this but varies with his but they do sin they are Vnrighteous explâ—ins this Law of Works to be at the Baâ—r of the Ten Commandments whereas though I grant that by the Law of Works no Flesh living can be justified with all its own Endeavours of Conformity thereto because of it self it still fails yet I can never grant that the Law of Faith will suffer us to continue in Sin or be Unrighteous nor yet that the Apostle intends by the Law of Works the Substance of the Ten Commandments to wit Real LOVE to God and one to another I cannot believe that he excluded this from a Justified Estate but rather the Shadowy Part and Jewish Imitation of the Letter without Faith in Christ an absolute Justified State being according to the Law of Faith herein we must differ but again he assents to the Truth viz. Those that will follow Christ shall argue as strictly if we be justified by Grace then we must be righteous and perfect according to the Law of it the Orthodox are quite out that ☞ will have any justified without a Righteousness that is perfect according to the Law that justifies him Animad Oh! That he were but well accquainted with this Law of Faith and would keep to it then we should not have this strugling and turning about to uphold Sin or the Breach of the Ten Commandments in Justified Persons wherein he goes about again viz. Object The Quaker is quite out that will have his Righteousness perfect according to the Ten Commandments which doth not justifie him page 26. Animad No the sincere Quaker is within who owns the Life of God and Christ in his Heart and knoweth that God requires perfect LOVE with ALL the Heart and Soul c. and this in the New Covenant not to make void the Law of the Ten Commandments as to the Substance and End thereof for LOVE is the Fulfilling of the Law the Commandment is Love out of a pure Heart and do we make void the Law through Faith No we establish it yet it is neither meerly by the ten Commandments nor by any of our own outward or litteral Observatinon tâ—ereof that we are justified but by him that enables and strengthens us to the Real and Spiritual Obedience of Faith Now the Righteousness of God without the Law is manifested being testified by the Law and the Prophets see Rom. 3. 21. to the End Concess The lover of Truth and Mediocrity will have every man have the Righteousness of a perfect Heart for his Justification and yet no Man be justified but by the Grace of God through Redemption which we have in Christ Jesus page 26. Animad I wish this Man and all others that oppose or dispute against us were such Lovers of Truth and Possessors of this Righteousness of a PERFECT Heart so much pretended to and talked of and so little experienced amongst Men and that this Redemption which the Saints had in Christ Jesus were experienced and livingly possessed this would end the Controversie about Notions and Opinions It is true that Pardon of Sin and Justification may in some Sense be distinguished though not divided there is Pardon of Sin and Transgressions that were under the first Testament or of Sins past When the Act of Faith is known in the Blood of Christ which is in Order to Justification being some Degree of it there is a further Degree of Justificatâ—on
de Spiritu et Littera that he saith Alia est Questio utrumaesse possit Homo in hac Vita sine Peccato alia utrum sit It is one Question whether it be possible for a Man to attain to such a Perfection as to live without Sin and another whether there be any that do Unto which this Author addeth That it is possible to attain this by Grace or the special Assistance of God's Spirit he thinks it best to grant he thinks it not fit nor safe to say any or all of God's Commands are Impossible the Work is to be attributed to him unto whom nothing is impossible Animad Thus far we agree then 1 st That it is our Duty tâ— be so perfect as to live without Sin 2 dly That it is also possible by the Grace and Assistance of God's Spirit so to live and to keep all God's Commandments though not possible to any Man by his own free will and Strength but only through the Assistance of divine Grace it being God that worketh in us to will and to do as also this Author freely grants That undâ—r the Covenant of Grace God expecting our Works to be right that they proceed only from the sincere Heart Animad And that Heart must be such a one as will not willingly disobey God and then what shall be wanting in Performance when God affords the Assistance of his Grace and good Spirit which is alsufficient And further he soberly cautions viz. And if any in the Dispute do carry the Matter so high against them viz. the Quakers as to deny what they contend for to be possible they may if they please chose more Wariness from Saint Augustine for the Quakers ascribe not to themselves but to the Spirit the Life the Power or to Christ within all that they do then he addeth viz. On the contrary side if these Friends will not be content with what is allowed them that our Duty reaches so far as not to sin at all that this our whole Duty is possible through that Spirit by which I hope some of them are led pag. 8. Animad I am glad that this Author hath so freely manifested a serious and ingenious Mind in him as to confess unto these Truths 1 st That it is our Duty to be so perfect as to live without sin 2 dly That it is possible through the Assistance of God's Spirit so to live 3 dly That they who dispute against us should chose more Wariness then to deny the Perfection we contend for to be possible 4 thly That the Quakers ascribe not the Possibility to themselves but to the Spirit and Power or Christ in them in whom their Sufficiency is And I do heartily wish that he were so far consistant herewith as by the same Spirit and Power to acknowledge and believe on the behalf of Christ and his sincere Followers that they are both willing faithful and obedient in performance of their Duty as well as accomplished with the Knowledge and Power for that End Note Otherwise I cannot see but this Man will leave a secret and hidden Charge against God's Elect and Justified Ones which is not that they either want the Knowledge of their Duty or God's â—ssistance for Performance but that they either want Willingness or are unfaithful to God therein and how are they then said to be called and chosen and faithful or how are his People a willing People in the Day of his Power And he confessâ—th a sincere Heart hath God's Elect therefore let us further observe those Passages wherein he differeth with us in this weighty Matter Upon Augustine ' s Question whether there be any that do attain to such a Perfection as to live without Sin he concludes with the Denyal and that if these Friends say that every one who doth not attain to the same Pitch as to live without Sin cannot be in a State of Grace and Salvation he shall think it Time to send them to the same Father and Book for their Reproof and Satisfaction but he hath confest the Duty of Man is not to Sin and that it is possible through that Spirit by which he hopes some of us are led citing these Scriptures viz. Walk before me and be thou per fect Thou shalt love the Lord with all thy Heart with all thy Soul with all thy Strength Thy Will be done in Earth as it is done in Heaven Be Followers of Christ and as his was so must our Conversation be in the World But then this Author concludes There is no Man hath a sensible Knowledge of himself but he perceives daily how far his Duty is above his Performances Animad 1st Though we do confess that such an Estate of Grace and Salvation as to live without Sin is not suddenly or at the First Dayes Work attained unto yet by Degrees every one that follows Christ through the Work of Regeneration and so comes into an Estate of absolute Salvation such come at length yea in this World to be delivered from all Sin and to know that Christ's Saving Work effecteth a Salvation from Sin he throughly purgeth his Floor as this Man also denyes not but the END of Christ's Manifestation in the Flesh was to redeem us from all Sin to destroy the Works of the Devil to restore us out of sin and unrighteousness and present us to God as a Peculiar People Purified by Faith Zealous of Good Works Holy and without Blame Entire and wanting nothing Perfect and Compleat in ALL the Will of God These being seriously considered the Truth thereof believed and a Living Faith Hope and Expectation begotten in us for the fulfilling of these and such like Testimonies of Holy Scriptures we think there is no Cause to send us to Augustine for Reproof for we must prefer Christ and the Apostles Testimonies in the Scriptures of Truth before any other Man's private Opinions 2 dly Though it be the Estate of many Men who have a Knowledge of themselves to perceive how far their Duty is above their Performances yea of such as may have a Sincere Mind and Defire in them to see all Lets and Hindrances of Performance removed yet neither is this Imperfection alwayes the Condition of such nor is this Deficiency the Estate of every Man for there are Young Men and Fathers in the Truth as well as little Children and whosoever is so far enlightned as to perceive a Shortness in Performance or Duty yet having a sincere Desire to follow the Lord and be made conformable to his Image there is a Promise to such and as they waite upon the Lord he will renew-their Strength and grant unto them the Desire of their Souls Blessed are they that Hunger and Thirst after Righteousness And farther when God makes known his Will and tells to thee O Man what thou oughtest to do namely to do justly love Mercy and walk humbly with the Lord thy God if in Submission thou yield to him thine Help
Sins may relate to Sins that were past and forgiven as well as the accidental sinnings of any weak ones among them for he should have considered that if any Man sin is not that every Man must sin or tâ—at no Man can do otherwise but rather implies that they might also be kept out of Sin seeing he saith These Things write I unto you that you sin noâ— it seems he was not of this Man's Mind that they were Sinners all their Dayes or could be no otherwise Besides both John and others condescended to the lowest of those to whom they wrote taking themselves in as sharers in the same Conditions and suffering with them that they might help them To the weak I became as weak c. As for his Alledging and citing Eliphaz for Sin What is Man that he should be clean and he that is born of a Woman that he should be Righteous Because he putteth no Trust in his Saints and the Heavens are not clean in his Sight â—o this I say that I am no more of his Mind then Job was and I do not reckon such an Instance of one of Job's miserable Comforters to be any valid Proof against Perfection for doth God put no Trust in his Saints Doth he not give this Testimony of them surely they are my People Chiâ—dren that will not lye and so was he their Saviour And further observe that the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite My Wrath is kindled against thee and against thy two Friends for ye have not spoken of me the Thing that is right as my servant Job hath Job 42. 7. â—â—is Author further adds We are all an unclean Thing saith the Church and all our Rightâ—ousnesses are as filthy Rags pag. 21. Animad I wonder he hath distinguished no better here for this as applied to the Church without Distinction contradicts all his Concessions to the Truth before both of universal Justification Perfection the Condition of Life and Salvation and Evangelical Holiness methinks he should consider that these are not intended in those Righteousnessâ—s that are as filthy Rags and that the Prophet Isaiah himself did personate and intend the Jews herein as disobedient rebellious and corrupt in their doings and not the Evangelical Church whose Righteousness the Lord is and concerning whom it was promiâ—ed Thy People shall be all Righteous Object There is one Text most full he saith which is that of David Enter not into Judgment with thy Servant O Lord for in thy Sight shall no Man living be justiâ—ied upon which he is pleased to argue If there is â—r ever was any meer Mortal on Earth that lived altogether without Sin then must this Text be false Animad This altogether without Sin hath a large Extent and it is not that which we lay the Controvesie upon we do not state this for Justification in God's Sight that any meer Mortal on Earth lived altogether without Sin for all generally have sinned and if we say we have not sinned we make him a Lyar and his Word is not iâ—us 1 John 1. 10. And further I will grant that if therefore God should enter into strict Judgement with any deservedly to punish them for all that ever they have done then there would be no Place either for Pardon Justification Salvation or Redemption by Christ and further by the Deeds of Law and all the Righteousness that is meerly performed by the Flesh shall no Flesh living be justified if God upon tâ—is Aâ—count should enter into Judgement then in his Sight should no Man living be justified â—ut seeing he hath provided and afforded a Gracious Remedy to wit the Sâ—ed of the Woman 〈◊〉 bruiseth the Serpent's Head thâ—t destroye the Devil and treads Satan under Feet hereby 〈◊〉 livers Man from Condemnation and Death although the first hath a Sense of the Sentence of Death and the Ministry of Condemnation in him as knowing that Commandment which kills and makes alive works Death and brings for hâ— Life And so I will further confess that no Man living in this State unto which he must dye in passing through the Law can be justified in God's Sight His saying that it is common for Men to alledge a few â—catered Scrâ—ptures against any Opinion which yet is true This both is a sleighty as well as an irreverend expression as touching the Scriptures and the Reflection implied in it against us as groundless Sect. XII Object If we are justified through Câ—rist's Redemption through Faith when none of us have performed the Condition required â—fus to our Justification by the Law of our Creation thâ—n must our Justification be of Grace c. Animad 1st Though Justification be of Grace yet this doth neither indulge nor allow us in the Breach of the Condition required by the Law of our Creation nor are Men justified in the Breach and Violation thereof if by the Law of our Creation the Law of Innocency or Image of God wherein Man was created be intended for a justified State by the Grace of God in Christ where compleated is where Men are saved through the Washing of Regeneration Tit. 3 4 5 6 7. Object If this Grace is obtained or purchased for us through Christ's Redemption then is God righteous though he accept of us seeing it is for Christ's Sake without that Condition Animad Without what Condition that which was required of us by the first Law or Law of our first Creation I deny that for without Innocency without the Image of God which consists in Righteousness and true Holiness none are accepted of God though it is true we are forgiven for Christ's sake through Faith Repentance of 〈◊〉 â—st before but our Acceptance is in the Beloved not out of him 〈◊〉 in him we have our Redemption Justification both from Sin and Condemnation of the Law and in him we have restored to us what Adam lost by Transgression and not only that but enjoy more Security and Stabillity And what doth God by his Spirit work in those that are chosen but perfect Holiness yea he will ordain Peace for us for he hath wrought all our Works in us Isa. 26. 12. page 23. Also it is an Untruth That the Perfection of the Quakers doth quite overthrow all this which the Apostle teacheth pag. 23. for the real Quaker is of the Apostle's Mind that Christ came both to condemn Sin in the Flesh to redeem us from ALL Iniquity to fulfil the Righteousness of the Law in us who walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit that so we might be delivered from ALL Condemnation And also it is unjustly inferred from our Opinion That we have no need of such Grace or Christ's Redemption that is of any from Christ as without whereby we should be justified and saved and as untrue that the Righteousness of God or of Faith in Opposition to Works is below that of ours for in the Gospel which is the Power of God is his Righteousness revealed from
bring Death and is the Ministration of Sin and Condemnation An. His Sigh Alas Sirs for us and Consequence upon us are both groundless and the Consequence of his own Mistake still as that we are ready to return into a Jewish or Natural Bondage o seek Life from that only which can bring Death c. this hath no Truth in it we neither seek Life from the Letter which killeth nor from any Ministration without the Spirit nor are we Ministers of the Letter nor do we sow to the Flesh but Ministers of the Gospel of the Spirit and of the New Testament knowing that 't is the Spirit that giveth Life And if ye through the Spirit do mortifie the Deeds of the Flesh or the Fruits thereof which are corrupt then shall ye live Sect. XVIII Object page 31. His other Consequence of our Doctrine is of Evils more secret and spiritual much more deadly to the Soul then their ordinary Sins as Persons wrought over to us immediately to look on all others at a distance even to a Contempt of the most grave serious holy Professors but as Men altogether in the Dark without Light or Life to be separated from c. as also Insolence and in finite Presumption falling into the Condemnation of the Devil Pride spiritual Pride the most damnable Pride proud of God's Grace Monstrous overweening Conceit of a Man's Self despising continually censuring and setting at nought of others c. An. These are sad Inferences we have enough of them he should have spared such censuring whilest he is opposing others for contemning and censuring but these are no wayes deducible either from our Doctrine or Testimony which is for a sincere Obedience and real Conformity to Christ Jesus and following of his Steps who left no such Example as either spiritual Pride Insolence Presumption or Self-conceit but of Meekness and Humility â—et gave true and severe Judgement against Hypocrites As for the Prudent the sober and pious among us whom he mentions they see no such Consequence of our Doctrine as this man suggests nor any Cause to mourn for any natural Effects of our Testimony but rather for their Miscarriages and Abuses who are disobedient to the Truth thereof and for such Professors as undervalue pervert and misrepresent that holy Testimony which God hath committed unto us they are at a real Distance from us and far from being the most grave â—erions or holy Professors It 's true as he saith That the Way of Christians is to be humble to debase themselves to make self of no Reputation after the Example of their Lord and Master and as he saith to live altogether on Dependence upon God each Man in Lowliness of Mind c. An. This is the Christianity and Perfection we aim at and bear witness unto and which many are pressing towards and what better what more pure and perfect â—tate is desirable then to live altogether on Dependence upon God But how well this Man 's opposing our Doctrine of Perfection and living without Sin agrees with his Concession of living altogether on Dependence upon God let the serious Reader judge Object Last of all there is that exceeding Danger in the entertainment of that Opinion that I am afraid at my Heart it cannot consist with the Grace of God and Justification of a Sinner by Christ it is a high Text that if you be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing I am really afraid at my very Heart Sirs lest your Case be the very same in Effect with these viz. that of the Galatians and Jews which was a looking to the Law only for Righteousness not to the chief End of it which was through Conviction of Sin to drive them to God for his Pardon An. 1st Friend this Fear of thine appears a very dark and groundless Fear for first hast thou not confest that such a Perfection as to live without sin is our Duty 2dly That it is not impossible but that it is possible to attain this state of keeping God's Commandments and being without sin by Grace or the special Assistance of God's spirit page 6 7. 3dly That the Quakers ascribe not to themselves but to the spirit the Life the Power or to Christ within all that they do page 8. Well said come on enough to clear the Quakers from giving the occasion of such a Fear concerning them do not let such a Fear lie upon thy Heart for their Case is far enough from that of the Galatians and Jews who sought to be made perfect in the Flesh set up their own Righteousness being gone from the Spirit and Law of Life within into the Letter and Ministration of Death without whereas the Quakers Obedience through the Spirit the Life or Power of Christ within is no Self-righteousness nor Fleshly Perfection fetched or sought from the Letter without but very well both consistant with and springing from the Grace of God the Pardon and Justification of a Sinner by Christ who is the Author of Eternal Salvation to all them that obey him and is only the Righteousness and Justification of such who believe in him obey him and walk sincerely before him Object But you have taken up an Opinion that the whole Law must be kept That 's a Mistake that you must live without sin and unless you come up to this Pitch you cannot be saved An. First It is not our Opinion that the whole Law must be kept but 〈◊〉 much of it as God requires that is what concerns the New Covenant wherein God doth both pardon and take away Sin 2 dly to â—â—ve without iSn is required in the New Covenant and is the Effect of Christ's saving Work who was called JESUS for this Cause and to fulfil this Promise namely He shall save his People from their sins and this no wayes hinders our acknowledging him to be our Advocate nor yet opposeth that Saying If any Man sin we have an Advocate with the Father even Jesus Christ the Righteous through whom both Pardon and Deliverance out of sin is obtained for If any Man sin is no positive Conclusion that every Man sinneth or that none of God's People live without Sin but rather implies that though it be possible that some may siâ— â—et they may be holpen preserved out of it there are or may become that do not sin for If any man sin is not that every Man doth sin As for These Friends meaning Quakers being at the Bar of the Gospel they see no Cause either to look upon themselves as declining the Grace of the Gospel or to have forfeited their Interest in that Freedom which belongs to honest Christian Folks through thy Redemption that is in Christ Jesus whatever this Man hath insinuated against them or charged upon them to the contrary nor will they appeal from thesâ— Terms under which they are brought by Christ or from the Terms of the Gospel to the Terms of the Law neither will they be judged by this Man's Consequences what Foolishness soever he therein chargeth upon them The Danger he surmiseth the sincere Quaker sears not nor are we who are called Quakers doubtful what shall become of us before the great Tribunal of God while we have the Testimony of a good Conscience holding our Integrity and abiding in Christ Jesus the Son of the Father's Love in whom we have Access with Boldness unto the Throne of Grace knowing also that he that abides in Christ sinneth not and if our Heart condemn us not then have we Confidence towards God near is he that justifieth who shall condemn who shall lay any thing to the Charge of God's Elect It is God that justifieth unto whom it is said thy People shall be all Righteous Finished London the 3d. of the 12th Moneth 1674. G. W. THE END Pag. 3 4. Pag. 5. pag. 6. pag. 7. pag. 6. pag. 8. pag. 8 9. Concess pag. 8 9. pag. 10 pag. 12. pag. 12 13. page 14. Luke 16. 10. see also Mat. 5 10. A plain Concession to truth pag. 14. pag. 15. pag ibid. page 18. page 18. page 18 19. And what he cites is also true viz. De. Peccato ad Mortem quoniam non exprâ—ssum est possuâ—t diversa sentiri ego autem dico id esse Peccatum Fidâ—m quae per Dilectionem operatur dâ—serere usque ad Mortem Concerning Sin unto Death because it is not expressâ—d dâ—vers Things may be thought of it but I say that sin is this to desert or never come up to that Faith which worketh by Love unto Death August de Con. et Gra. chap. 12. Concess page 19. Col. 1. 21 22. page 24. 1 Pet. 3. 18. Conâ—ess pag. 26. Concess pag. 26. pag. 27. Rom. 7 Concession to Truth 1 John 1. 7. pag. 29. Rom. 6. 4 5 6 7 11 15 22. 5. 17 20 21. His other Excuse for their divines pag. 29. Though 't is trnc herein this Author seems to dâ—sown them by â—nfessing a Possibility to live without sin through the assistance of God's holy Spirit page 7 8. yet this Man bordâ—rs too near their Doctrine for sin in not believing nor confessing to any of the Saints keeping Christ's Commandments or their perfect Obedience but in arguing for the contrary which reflects Sin and Imperfection on all the Saints of God and true Christians pag. 29 30. A supposed Objection yet not inconsistant with our Principle * Contrary to 1 John 4. 17 18. This is a plain Untruth Concess to Truth page 32. page 32. page 33.
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To the second Part if every Child of God keep his Commands as they are made the Condition of Life in the New Covenant then I hope it will be granted however that the greatest and most substantial Commandments are kept and how he should then neglect the lesser or remain unfaithful in the least Things I cannot understand for ye are my Friends if ye do whatsoever I command you faith Christ and he that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much Now this great Commandment of Love being the Fulfilling of the Law must needs be therefore comprehensive of or take in the lesser Commandments and farther let it be seriously minded and considered that he that is come into the New Covenant or to be in Covenant with God is come into that Agreement and Union with him which this Covenant contains which admits not of the continuance of Sin or Breach of the Law of this Covenant and he that abides in Christ sins not he that dwells in Love dwells in God be not deceived he that doth Righteousness is Righteous even as he is Righteous 1 John 3. And this may answer what is said about the Child of God that as he is Righteous and Perfect he sins not c. and that when St. John speaks of sinning not we may observe how he counterpoises committing Sin with being Righteous or doing Righteousness to which this Author addeth The true Christian sins not so as he opposeth his being Righteous he commits not Sin as is contradictory to his doing Righteousness page 15. But still he seems here to leave Room for the Child of God's sinning or committing Sin in some Sense or other while in this World about which we differ and cannot be reconciled unless we both joyn in that Seed and Principle which lives in the child of God if we both did meet in that which is born of God which overcomes the World we should both agree about the State of him or whosoever to wit the Man of God or true child that is born of God whom the Wicked One cannot touch Sect. VIII Again since he saith The calm Protestants will grant to the Papists such a fulfilling of the Law as does constitute a Real true Righteousness and that which is perfect or entire according to the Covenant of Grace and so accepted of God unto Life c. page 15 16. Animad 'T is well that some Protestants grant thus much for this is repugnant both to the continuance and mixture of Sin and Corruption in the Children of God or with their Obedience for true and real Righteousness which is perfect and entire according unto the Covenant of Grace is what we do plead for both as to the Root and Fruits of it but I cannot see how this can consist with what he saith The most violent Papists will grant to the Protestant that this Righteousness nevertheless is not wtthout all Sin but doth both fail in the Degree which the Law exacts and is intermingled with many at least venial Transgressiâ—nâ— page 16. Although this doth somewhat agree with what this Author drives at against us yet such a mixture we cannot own nor such an interminglement of Sin with that Righteousness which is perfect and entire according to the Covenant of Grace and I see no Reason when the Soul 's great Enemy is overcome and the greater Sins washed off and the greater Pollutions done away why those venial Sins or lesser Sins should remain and there is no Reason that venial or pardonable Sins should remain or be continued after pardoned Man's Mind and Heart being changed and turned from them having repented thereof at the Time of his receiving pardon or when he receiveth Redemption through the Blood of Christ even Remission of Sins past As for standing on our own Righteousness when it is taken for Self-Righteousness in the Sense of the Prophet Isaiah chap. 64. 6. We do utterly deny and exclude it but as the Lord is oâ—r Righteousness by his inward Work of Grace and Sanctification in our Hearts we must forever own and stand by this with Respect to our Justification Acceptance and Peace with him as being the Ground and Original thereof to us and in us and they who exclude this inward or inherent Righteousness of God from Justification we can in no wise own their Doctrine Again between this Man 's Assenting page 16 17. that that Righteousness which is accepted of God unto Life is a real true Righteousness perfect and entire according to the Covenant of Grace and yet that this Righteousness is imperfect wherein we are justifiable by the Covenant of Mercy as Performers of the Condition here appears such an Inconsistancy as I know not how to reconcile for that which is perfect entire according to the Covenant of Grace is never deficient lame or imperfect nor yet intermingled with any Sin to make iâ— so as Christ being made unto us Wisdom Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption we are only accepted in him justified in his Righteousness accepted in the Beloved whereby we do not exclude that Obedience on our Parts which Christ injoyns but are enabled and naturallized thereunto Confess He confefâ—eth that God gave his whole Law for a Covenant and if one Part only were transgressed the Condition of that Covenant is broken as well as if all were transgressed and that we must understand the like in reference to the Law of Faith or Covenant of Grace and its Observation page 17. Animad Must we so Then as perfect or full Obedience is required by the latter and unto it as by the former and much more Power and Encouragements attend this being established upon better Promises then were known under the other and in this Covenant of Grace God's Promises are Yea and Amen which concern perfect Holiness as well as the rest of the Saints Priviledges and both this Law and Righteousness of Faith require a sincere or perfect Obedience to the Word of Faith in the Heart and that in order to the compleating an absolute Justification and Salvation as the Law or Letter without doth to the Precepts therein contained but then the Man varies in what he addeth in the next Section Sect. IX Object viz. Let a Man's Sins be what they will so long as the Condition be performed he may according to this Law be judged no Transgressor page 17. Animad Whereas if this Law of Faith or Covenant of Grace must be as fully observed as the whole Law â—hat God gave to Man for a Covenant as before no Part whereof was to be broken how do these consist And if the Law be not made void through Faith but established and if it be not the Unrighteous that shall inherit the Kingdom of God but such as are washed and sanctified from all Uncleanness that are also justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God see 1 Cor. 6. Then I do not see that the Performance