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A65838 The authority of the true ministry in baptizing with the spirit, and the idolatry of such men, as are doting about shadows and carnal ordinances, and their ignorance of the spirits baptism (of which, water baptism was but a figure) discovered : and herein is shewed, that water baptism is neither of necessity to salvation, nor yet is it now practiced either by authority from heaven, or by any New-Testament-law that is in force upon believers, seeing the substance, and the end of things abolished is come and enjoyed, wherein the types, shadows and fingers, are ended : being a short return to a book entituled, A reply to a scandalous paper, subscribed by one Samuel Bradley, a Baptist teacher, as concerning a dispute that was between some of the people called Quakers, and some Baptists in South-warke. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1660 (1660) Wing W1892; ESTC R19780 16,493 18

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the false Gods are And thus S. B's folly and Idolatrous Spirit is seen in his so confusedly setting up water baptism above the baptism of the Spirit and so he is not at all fit for Jehovah's work indeed S. B. Saith The ordinance of water baptism was Commanded to be performed in so sollemne a manner as no ordinance in all the new Testament In the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost which notes the great honour Christ puts upon this ordinance Answ. I tell you this Baptist doth make an Idoll of water baptism when he hath said all he can for he hath here set it above all the ordinances of the New Testament but he hath apparently in this preached false doctrine for preaching the Gospel was an ordinance of the New Testament and it was done in the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost as well as baptising seeing the Disciples were commanded to teach or disciple all Nations baptising them into the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost so that Teaching was commanded to be done in as sollemn a manner as Baptizing for both Teaching and Baptizing into the Name of the Father c. were performed by the power of God which the Disciples of Christ were indued with and which wrought by them who were made instruments in that work of baptizing into the Name of God and Christ c. And whereas I charged S. B. and his brethren with being ignorant of the baptism of the Spirit he to prove that he is not ignorant of that baptism answers thus viz. S. B. I do demand what they mean by the baptism of the Spirit c. If by the baptism of the Spirit they mean the Spirit that doth bear witnesse that we are the Sons of God we do experinence it and are not ignorant of it Ans. What is this man but ignorant of the baptism of the Spirit when you may see here he cannot distinguish between the Spirit and the baptism of it for if by the baptism of the Spirit we mean the Spirit that doth bear witness they do experience it he saith Did you ever hear such a doctrine before that the baptism of the Spirit is the Spirit as if he had said the work that is wrought is the worker of it and thus whilst they are doting about outward shadowes and signes they are confounded and blinded that they see not the substance nor understand the work of the Spirit which baptizeth into Christ and into his Name which is his Word by which salvation comes which is a working of men into the power and life to which they are discipled and led in the preaching of the Gospell S. B. The gift of tongues is called in Scripture the baptizm of the Spirit see Act. 1. 5. again he saith we do not deny but acknowledge that we are baptized by one Spirit into one body Ans. In this he hath rested the scripture and spoken falsly for the gift of tongues is not called the baptism of the Spirit but the gift of it now the baptism of the Spirit was a work of it by which the Saints were all baptised into one body many of whom had not the gift of tongues for it was onely a proper gift to some and as for the baptists saying they are all baptized by one Spirit into one body and yet hath called the gift to tongues the baptism of the Spirit which he hath acknowledged they are ignorant of herein he would make two baptismes of the Spirit when as the Apostle said there is one Faith and one Baptisme Eph. 4. 5. and thus he sheweth his ignorance of the baptism of the Spirit and so is not worthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH as he hath confessed S. B. We need not require an immediate Call or Authorithy from heaven to preach and baptize in as much as we have a sufficient call or warrant granted us by Christ himselfe on earth which doth plainly appeare in the Commission it self the Disciples being Commissioned c. Answ. What falshood and confusion is here For both the Papists and the hireling Priests and others whom the Baptists themselves have declared against do pretend as much for their call to preach and baptize as this baptist hath done who hath pretended the Commission which the Disciples of Christ had to be his warrant or call to preach and baptize when as he never had any immediate Call or Authority from heaven to either and so he never had any Call or Authority from God either to preach or baptize Which is like as if that the false Prophets had said the Commission which the true Prophets had to preach did Authorize and warrant them to preach also What deceiver cannot get such a deceitfull cloak as this so it 's evident that this S. Bradley is one of these deceivers who runs and the Lord never sent him and speaks when the Lord hath not spoken to him and that commission Mat. 28. which the Disciples of Christ received from him was given by Authority from heaven upon which this S. B. doth so much build and falsly argue and it doth not warrant them to baptize with water neither for it was to baptize into the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost which Name many do professe in words who are yet out of it as this Baptist is And whereas I said to these Baptists that they practise baptism by immitation and carnall tradition without a command from Christs mouth for it To this S. B. Replies in these words viz. S. B. Let those men put a stop unto their lying tongues for fear vengeance suffer them not to live c. I demand then the meaning of these pretious words that drop out of the sweet lips of our Lord Jesus in the Commission that he gave unto his Disciples Go teach all Nations baptizing them c. Answ. Oh! how Ignorant and full of gross darkness it self art thou S. Bradley Surely thou mayest read these words to the Disciples in the Scripture Go teach all Nations baptizing them and yet never hadst any command from Christs mouth for to baptize with water as the Jewes read the Scriptures without who had neither heard the voice of God at any time nor seen his shape and such art thou who hast neither any immediate Call or Authority from Heaven to preach and therefore hast neither Call nor Authority from God either to Preach or Baptize and yet thou wouldest be counted a Minister of Christ so its time for thee to stop thy mouth for thou art one of them who are presumptuous who take upon them to speak in the name of the Lord whom he hath not sent nor commanded and such God will cut off Deut. 18. 20. S. B. I do affirm that the Baptism spoken of in the Commission in the 28. of Matthew and the 16. of Mark is the Baptizm of Water and for proof S. B. Argues thus It is not the Baptizm of the Spirit because this
continue till the end of the World according to his account he hath denyed that the Saints are yet come to the second coming of Christ to Salvation wherein he hath discovered his ignorance of Christs appearance and Salvation and so would keep the Saints under shadows and from the Substance all their life time When as the coming of Christ in the flesh wherein he was offered to bear the Sins of many Heb. 9. 28. was one coming and his appearance in Spirit to save his people from sin is another coming which they that truly looked for did receive and they that yet have that his coming to look for and waite for it he shall so appear to their Salvation Sam. Bradley saith of the QVAKERS The first thing they mention as the Captain General of their manifold untruths that Sam. Bradly a Baptist Teacher affirmed That the Baptism of the Spirit was Metaphorically spoken of in that place 1 Cor. 12. 13. and that the baptism of water was intended To which I say herein hath he wronged our words and falsified our sayings for we said that S. B. affirmed touching 1 Cor. 12. 13. That the baptism of the Spirit there spoken of was metaphorical but the baptism of water was intended And S. B. then Replies thus viz. I did not nor do not affirm that the Baptism of the Spirit was metaphorically spoken of in 1 Cor. 12. 13. And that the baptism of water was there intended Therefore I would advise these men for to learn to speak the Truth Answ. We have affirmed no untruth against thee S. B. for what we said of thee in that particular mentioned was that thou saidst that the Baptism of the Spirit was metaphorical but the baptism of water was intended and this is notoriously known by many that thou affirmedst it upon our urging that 1 Cor. 12. 13. and one of thy brethren sought to vindicate thee in it when thou wast baffled about it as counting that the Apostle spoke metaphorically in that 1 Cor. 12. about the body and the members which was nothing to the purpose also it was several times upon thy assertion asked thee What the Baptism of the Spirit was a Metaphor or a Figure of if it was Metaphorical as thou saidst about which thy mouth was plainly stopt it was so often in the Meeting cast upon thee that thou discovers an exceeding impudent lying spirit in thee now to deny it and to say that what we said of thee about it is altogether untrue as thou sayest About which I could produce several witnesses who know that thou hast spoken absolute falshood in this thing and let the Reader mark thy silly shuffling in this thing thou sayest Thou didst not neither dost affirm that the baptism of the Spirit was metaphorically spoken of in that place 1 Cor. 12. 13. which implyes then that thou hast counted it metaphorical in some other place though not in that place but where ever any true Minister counted the Spirits baptism metaphorical and water baptism intended that thou hast not shewn so its evident that in thy blindnesse thou hast set water baptism above the baptism of the Spirit and so hast made an Idoll of it as also doth appear where thou sayest thus viz. S. B. I did say the Apostle in Ephes. 4. Spake of one Lord one Faith and one Baptism which these men brought in opposition to water baptism to it I made this Answer thou sayest This is not exclusive for there be Lords many as you may see 1 Cor. 8. 5. And yet but one Lord Jesus and we read of divers Baptismes as of affliction Luk. 12. 50. 2dly The Baptism of the Spirit which is spoken of in Acts 2. 3dly The Baptism of water as in Acts 8. and 10. and yet there is but one properly so called to wit that of water Also thou sayst we instance three Baptismes in Scripture and prove one properly so called Ans. If there be so many Baptismes and yet but one propely called baptism which is the Baptism of water then from this it follows that the baptism of the Spirit or the baptism by which the Saints were saved was not properly called Baptism and this would charge the Apostles with speaking improperly or falsly when they spoke of the Baptism by which they were saved or of their being all baptised by one Spirit into one Body And thus this said Baptist's falshood and folly appears who here also counteth the one Baptism spoken of in Eph. 4. the Baptism of water and so hath shut out the baptism of the Spirit as not properly called Baptism and Idollatrously hath set water baptism above it when as the baptism of the Spirit was that which water baptism did but shadow or figure forth for by one Spirit were the Saints baptised into the body of Christ which the baptism of outward water doth not baptise any into for such as uphold water baptism now are in the strife and much in devision when as they who are baptised into the body of Christ are in unity Though thus far we say of water baptism that in its time it was a Command from heaven to John which was in the time of the Law and the least in the Kingdome was greater than John who decreased and in the time of that baptismes decreasing it was used by some of the Apostles in their freedome for the sake of some that were weak or young in the truth and not wholly redeemed out of the state that such carnall or weak ordinances related to which were upheld in the time of the Churches infancy But when the carnall minds of some ran into these outward things and something got up in the minds of the Corinthians to lead them too much to stick in them the Apostle Paul tells them That Christ sent him not to baptise but to preach the Gospel 1 Cor. 1. 17. and yet Pauls Commission was as large as any of the Apostles was for he was not behinde the very chief Apostles and shunned not to declare all the councell of God Act. 20. 27. And whereas S. Bradley instanceth as his paralel That there be Lords many and yet but one Lord Jesus for the divers Baptismes he speaks of as of affliction the baptism of the Spirit the baptism of water and yet but one properly so called to wit that of water To this I say herein hath he discovered his gross darknesse and false comparison which will not hold paralel for it 's as if he had said there be Lords many and Gods many yet to us but one true God and so there are many baptismes as the baptism of affliction the baptism of the Spirit and the baptism of water yet to us there is but one true baptism to wit the baptism of water and the other as that of affliction and the baptism of the Spirit are false baptismes and not properly so called For the many Gods and many Lords or that are called Gods are in the world where