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A61887 A light shining out of darknes [sic], or, Occasional queries submitted to the judgment of such as would enquire into the true state of things in our times Stubbe, Henry, 1632-1676.; Vane, Henry, Sir, 1612?-1662. 1659 (1659) Wing S6056; ESTC R7223 23,563 46

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ministrorum who was an episcopall man whether Dominicus Soto do not prove it lawfull jure naturae and yet he is a Papist Phil. Mornay du Plessis being urged about the call of the first Reformers saith such intergatories are but the tergiversations of men already convinc'd in their own judgements who dare not abide the tryall just as Sedecias the false Prophet replyed to Michaiah 1 Kings c. 22. v. 24. when went the Spirit of the Lord from me to speak to thee And thus the Pharises Thou art the son of a Carpenter who sent thee To whom we might determine the controversy by Christs own words The words which we speak they beare witness of us The Jews prided themselves in their long descent from Abraham and being his successors But what sayes Christ you are indeed the seed of Abraham but yet you are of your Father the Devill Joh. 8. and Paul tells us 2 Thess. 2. Let no man seduce you for Antichrist shall set in the Temple of God Having premised these things Mornay thus argues When a Town is on fire or assaultted by the enemy by scalado in the night if any body shall rayse the sleepy watch-men or give Alarme to the corps dugarde whether stranger or citisen none ask by what authority he doth it but all run for water to quench the fire or to the walls to repulse the enemy men inquire into the case whether his discovery be true and do not arraign or implead him otherwise yea such a man receives thanks for his timely discovering the danger But we saith he alarme the Christian world by descovering how Antichrist sits in the Temple of God we offer to prove it yet are we not regarded nor our reasons listned unto but they clamour who are you and punish us more heinously than if we were Traitors Should any Governor of a Cittadell demean himself thus in cases of intelligence would not he soon be surprised by the enemy and would he not be condemned by his Generall or Governors for neglect In the conspiracy of Cataline the Roman Senate derived that intelligence which prevented the plot from an Harlot when the Capitoll was stormed by the Gaules they took an Alarme from the Geese Let us therefore be never so mean we ought to be afforded Audience The Question is not who we are but whether that be Antichrist seeke not into the Quality of the relators but the truth of the relation Christ was promised to the Jews but revealed to the Shepheards these Shepheards divulged it among the people if we may credit our adversaries those men ought to haue been questioned for it The bretheren of Ephesus should also have ejected un-commissioned Apollos for preaching but they received him commended his Zeale desired him to pass into Achaia and wrote to the bretheren to receive him At the dreadfull day when men are to give an account of their Talents it will not be a sufficient reply for any to say they wanted ecclesiasticall vocation when they wanted not the great inducement of Christian charity to employ that talent which was given them to profit with The French Ministers against whom Cardinall Perron writ argue thus in the old Testament some were extraordinarily raised to instruct the people why may it not be so under the new the same motives are still remaining Moreover they say That it is not to be expected that Antichrist should commission men to distroy himself see Champney de vocat Min●…str In fin●… 〈◊〉 Paipsts think they have sufficiently refuted th●… call of the first reformers by shewing how ali sect may use the same plea F. Dom. Soto in quart sentent Distinct quinta quaest. V●…ic Art 10. p. 154. Conclus 1. Ecclesia Christi primùm ac proinde unusquisque mortalium jus habet tam divinum quàm naturale promulgandi Evangelium ubique terrarum probatur 1. ex illo Marc. ultimo euntes in mundum universunt pr●…dicate evangelium omni creaturae Matth. 28. data est mihi omnis potestas in coelo in terrâ euntes docete omnes gentes baptizantes eos c. quasi dixisset quam ego potestatem in hác parte habeo vobis confero habuit autem potestatem in ●…oto o●…be praedicandi ergo illam nobis contulit 2. Jure naturae unusquisque libertatem habet facultatem docendi alios ●…isque pe●…suadendi illa quae facere tenentur sed universi mortales tenentur christianam fidem suscipere ergo unusquisque potest id universis usque ad persuasionem suadere id quod tertio sic confirmatur Potest quisque quemque ea quae sunt juris natura●… docere neque illo docendi jure privari valet ergo ea qu●… sunt evangelicae fidei ut pote quae nec m●…nùs sunt obligatoria magis sint salutaria Non dico quod possit cogere convincere nam supernaturalia intellectum non convincunt sed tamen ea docere explicare suo jure valet res est clara Luther De abrog. Miss privat fol. 248 249. Invictis Scripturis firmabimus legitimum illud unicum verbi ministerium esse commune omnibus Christianis quod omnes loqui judicare possunt dicit enim Paulus 2 Cor. 4. qui idoneos nos fecit Ministros novi Testamenti non literae sed spiritûs hoc enim de omnibus Christianis dicit ut omnes faciat Ministros spiritûs Est autem Minister spiritûs is qui tradit verbum gratiae sicut Minister literae qui tradit vocem legis hoc Moysis erat illud Christi est Item Petrus dicet omnibus Christianis ut virtutes annuntietis ejus qui de tenebris vos vocavit in admirabile lumen suum Quis Christianorum non est vocatus de tenebris at hujus est jus potestas imo necessitas annunciandi virtutem sese vocantis 1 Cor. 14. Luther Ita interpretatur Mulieres Panlus prohibet loqui non simpliciter sed in ecclesiâ ubi sunt viri potentes loqui ut non confundatur honestas ordo cum vir multis modis sit prae muliere idoneus ad loquendum magis eum deceat sed nec ex suo capite Paulus hoc prohibet imò adducit legem dicens subditas esse debere sicut lex dicit quâ autoritate divinae legis certus erat quod spiritus sibi ipsi non contradiceret mulieres prius per eum viris subjectas nunc supra viros non elevaret quin potius memor tenax sui instituti prasentibus viris viros magis quam faeminas afflaret Alioquin quomodo solus Paulus resisterit spiritui Sancto qui in Joele promisit prophetabunt filiae vestrae Act. 21. erant Philippo quatuor virgines prophetantes Maria Mosis soror erat prophetissa Dibora ducem Barac instruxit Olda prophetissa consuluit Sanctissimo regi Josiae Denique beatae virginis