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A86663	The cause of stumbling removed from all that will receive the truth; and from before the eyes of the wise men of London: in a treatise shewing the difference between the spirit of a man which is the candle of the Lord, and the light which hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world. Also shewing ... there is not diversity of lights and spirits, by which they are ministred ... Herein also is a false hosanna, and a false testimony reproved ... the name of him which hath so long travell'd to bring forth wind and confusion, is one known in the city of London by the name of Iohn Iackson ... that so ... understanding and knowledge of the truth may be increased, in those that follow on to know the Lord. Given forth from the Lords servant, Richard Hubberthorne.	Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1657 (1657)	Wing H3222; Thomason E929_5; ESTC R202544	39,439	35

of the light which lighteneth every man that cometh into the world is not this to call light darkness to say that the light is so far from leading up to God that it drives the soul from God and keeps him in the Fall What is that which leads man out of the fall if the light keep man in it As this is contrary to Scripture and to truth so it is contrary to his own words as in pag. 7. there saying That by the Light is the will and minde of the Creator made known unto man and he sufficiently qualified to see it and understand it Answ. How can these two stand together That the Light drives man from God and keeps him in the fall and again That it makes known the will and mind of the Creator unto him and sufficiently qualifies him to see and understand it This cannot truly be called Hosana to the Son of David no●A Testimony to the Lords Christ but a Line of Confusion which is stretched out wherein darknesse is come forth as a Cloud and spreads it self over the earth to darken peoples minds from the knowledge and understanding of truth by words without knowledge but his folly shall proceed no further unreproved and made manifest Another false Testimony concerning the light is this That at first it moved upward and man could look God in the face and serve him but now since the fall the Thief is got into the Candle and now the Spirit burns downward and discovers the things beneath Ans. What is the nature of the Light cha●ged or is the Spirit so changed that before it ascended upward and now downward We shall try this according to the Scripture which saith Who knoweth the Spirit of man that goeth upward and the spirit of a Beast which goeth downward to the earth Eccles. 3. 21. so then if it goes downward it is the spirit of a Beast and not the spirit of a man And here it is plainly evident that he knows not the spirit of a man from the spirit of a Beast so unfit to cry Hosana to the Son of David or bear testimony to the Lords Christ But as for the Light which hath enlightned man that cometh into the world the fall did not change the quality of the light for the light is the same as it was but darknesse cannot comprehend ●t neither knows how to give a true testimony of it but confusedly speaks of two lights the one springing up with man in his natural birth sutable to his natural birth and another light sutable to the new birth that is born of the spirit This is a testimony which is not to be found in Scripture to be two Lights sutable to the two births for he that is born of the flesh persecutes him that is born of the Spirit and God hath put enmity between the two Seeds but to say that there is two lights sutable and so the one natural and the other spiritual the one of the earth earthly and the other of the Lord from Heaven as the two births are this is not a testimony according to truth for the light is but one and the spirit of truth is but one and the same spirit which led the Saints which believed into all truth the same did convince the world of sin because they did not believe in Christ Ioh. 16. ● And that light which is the condemnation of the world who love the darknesse rather then Christ the same is the Saviour of all them that believe and one man loves it and another hates it yet it is the same light Ioh. ● 19 but the Scriptures bears no such testimony as that there is two lights in man the one spiritual and the other natural and for any man to say that the light of Christ is natural is blasphemy against the Son of God and is a sin not easily forgiven and it is hard for such to find the place of repentance for every one that comes to repentance must first come to the light which Christ hath enlightned them withall and must know it to be spiritual and confesse it so and with this light come to discern the two births the one from the other and their several natures and how that the one birth is guided by the light it being as the eye giving them to see what to speak before they speak and so keeps them out of the worlds line which is confusion and as a Teacher giving them to understand what to do before they do it and so keeps them out of the condemnation bringing their works before-hand to judgement and so their works are wrought in God who answer the light which they be enlightened withall but the light is not sutable no● according to that birth which is born after the flesh but condemns that in all its wayes and actions and is given to lead the creature out of that nature and out of that birth into the regeneration to lead out of the deeds of darknesse and out of the shadow of death into the living inheritance among those that are sanctified in Christ Jesus Another testimony concerning the light relating to the two Covenants is this That as there was a new Covenant diverse from the former the old so there must of necessity be another light to accompany it diverse from the former that is as then mans spirit so now the spirit of the Lord c. page 35. Answ. Ther● are diversities of gifts but the same spirit and there are differences of Administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of opperations but it is the same God which worketh all in all 1 Cor. 12 4 5 6. Now all people is to know that there was a ministration different from the administration of the Gospel the new Covenant a different administration from the old but there is no necessity that it be ministred from another spirit nor from another Lord nor from another Light therefore to say that because the Covenants or Admini●●ration● are diverse one from another that therefore it must not be the same spirit but the one by the spirit of man the other the spirit of God and that the light● is to be diverse the one from the other this is a false Testimony ●o●●●● same spirit in which the Law was administred the first Covenant ●● the same was the second administred which doth make perfect according to the conscience Now as all people is brought o●● of their o●● inventions and imaginations and from following their own spirits to own the light of Christ which hath enlightned them they shall know the diversities of Administrations and the diversity of opperations and yet but one Light and one Power and one Spirit and not as many lights as births nor as many spirits as opperations not every Administration to have a diverse light to accompany it for though there be that are called gods whether in heaven ●r in earth as there be gods many and lords many but to

us there is but one God the Father of whom are all things and we in him and one Lord Iesus Christ by whom are all things and we by him howbeit there is not in ●very man that knowledge 1 Cor. 8. 5 6 7. and though there be in the world many lights yet to us there is but one him by whom all things was made which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that in him all men might believe and as every one believes in this light they shall know that mans reason and understanding is not the light which every man is enlightened withall for some are unreasonable men and some are void of understanding Neither is the spirit of man the light of the world which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world neither is any thing called the light of the world in the Scripture but Christ for saith Christ I am come a light into the world that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darknesse Ioh. 12. 46. Then spake Iesus again unto them saying I am the light of the world ●● that followeth me shall not walk in darknesse bu● shall have the light of life Joh. 8. 12. and again I am the light of the world Joh 9. 5. And the Messenger which was sent before his face to prepare the way of the Lord and to bear witnesse to the truth said In him was life and the life was the light of men and that was the true light which enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world Ioh. 1. 4 9. And this is the light which in all ages generations and under all Administrations the Sain●s did bear their testimony in and this light did never change nor alter though ages and generations have changed and men have changed and do change and the minds of men change and their wayes change and their worships change and forms and religions which are not according to the light which Christ hath enlightned them withal which changeth not which as it is followed will lead them out of those ways which do change which is not the living way for the new and living way is one with the light which every man is enlightned withall which is every mans way to the Father who follow it and every mans condemnation who disobey it Another testimony concerning the first man Adam in his first estate without sin the sum of it is this That as h● was at first that is at his beginning made s● that is without sin for so was he made Eccles. 7. 29. upright without crookednesse without invention that this man yea in his purest naturals ●annot receive nor discern the things of the spirit of God until ●e i● born of the Spirit or from above according to Ioh. ●13 8. 3 6. 1 Cor. 2. 14 Answ. This Testimony is false for the first Adam before the Fall was the son of God Luk. 3. 38. and did know and perceive Gods voice and power and he knew Gods command That he should not eat of the Tree of knowledge of good and evil which if he did he should dye the death for he was in Gods Image and the Lord spoke unto him and he perceived it and he had right to eat of the Tree of Life which was in the midst of the Garden and if Adam had continued in that state there needed no Law have been added because of transgression neither had there needed any precept upon precept nor line upon line neither any Teacher nor Instructer of the ignorant for there had no death passed over to seperate God from his creature which he had made in his own image and given him power over all Creatures but to say the son of God in the image of God without sin in uprightnesse and power to say that he is sensual having not the spirit or to say that he is the natural man that cannot receive nor discern the things of the spirit of God this is greater blasphemy then that which the Apostle reproved Rev. 2. 9. in those which said they were Iews and were not but were the Synagogue of Satan and all such whi●● brings forth such mysts of darknesse and and ignorance to blind the eye in people which should see the things of God in clearnesse are to be reprovrd sharply that they may be ashamed and no more bring forth that which is both unnecessary and unseasonable and contrary to truth as Iohn Iackson hath done And further he adds That the natural man which Paul speaks of 1 Cor. 2. 14. and compares it with 1 Cor. 15. 44 45. is not to be taken for the carnal sinful man but for a man in puris naturalibus meerly natural pag. 37. Let all therefore consider Pauls words Which things also we speake no● in the words which mans wisdom teacheth but which the Holy Ghost teacheth comparing spiritual things with spiritual but the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishnesse unto him neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned 1 Cor. 2. 13 14 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things yet he himself is judged of no man ver. 15. Now whether any man that hath the spirit of God can judge that this is not spoken of carnal sinful men or whether any by the spirit of God can judge that this was spoken of a man in the pure nature without sin and let all who have the spirit of judgement judge whether Adam in the image of God without sin did account the things of God as foolishness unto him and if any so judge let them prove it That in Adams innocency without sin the things of God were foolishness unto him or whether the Crosse of Christ which Paul preached was foolishness unto any but unto carnal and sinful men So every man I exhort to come to that of God in you to know the Salt in your selves to savor withall that you may know that Doctrine that stands in the devised words of mans wisdom and not in the Power of God which would turn the Truth of God into a lye and pervert the minds from the right understanding of the things of God But the day is come which hath brought forth light and knowledge and understanding to the simple whereby they see the deeps which are covered with darkness and they come to see and comprehend mens wisdom and their fountain what it brings forth for how should that which is unclean bring forth that which is clean So that now we do not only know the words of those which have set themselves against the truth but the Spirit and power from whence they speak and so in faithfulness bear our testimony against it that the folly of those may be made manifest unto all men who wilfully oppose the truth and their own selves through wilful blindness and so count themselves unworthy of eternal life exercising their strength wisdom and knowledge to shut up the

been so fully manifested and they receive it not and they must fall and be broken And seeing that the wicked doth take occasion and seeks occasion against the innocent this will make many more watchful and more circumspect and more to walk in Gods wisdom and to deny their own ways least offences come by them And let him put off his Armor and lay down his Weapon and I wish he may spend the next two years to come better then he hath done these last and that the little fire in the Embres may kindle to the burning of his corruptions rather then into a blind zeal against the innocent people and what in this Book is written is not to contend or strive for mastery but to clear the truth and to remove all cause of stumblings from before the face of all the upright in heart A Friend to all people E. B. London the third day of the nineth Month 1657. The cause of stumbling removed from all that will receive the truth and from before the eyes of the wise men of LONDON MAny untimely Births in ages past and present hath been brought forth and the work of such hath alwayes been to destroy the Heir the seed which the Lord hath blessed that so the Inheritance might be theirs so would thrust themselves into the Kingdome but they know while the seed of the promise is alive it keeps them out and will not let them meddle with those things which they are not born unto For they are sons of Bondage and children of fals-hood and must not be Heirs with the son of the free c. David out of whose root the righteous seed did arise the bright and morning Star he saw that seed in his dayes and was aware of them and gave his testimony concerning them saying in heart ye work wickednesse you weigh the violency of your hands in the earth the wicked are estranged from the wombe they go astray as soon as they be born speaking lyes their Poyson is like the Poyson of a Serpent they are like the deafe Adder that stoppeth her eare Charming never so wisely Break their teeth O God in their mouth break out the teeth of the yong Lyons O Lord let them melt away as waters that run continualy when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows l●t them be as cut in peices as a Snaile which melteth let every one of them pass away like the untimely birth of a Woman that they may not see the Sun c. Psalm 58. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. And again he saith behold he travelleth with iniquity and hath conceived mischief and brought forth false-hood Psalm 7. 14. and so there was a traveling and labouring before they could get their iniquity brought forth as we have true declarations concerning the ages past how many have travelled and brought forth wind and confusion so likewise in this age by experience can we give testimony of the like births which hath been brought forth to the slaughter amongst Babylons children and here is one of the same birth born and brought forth in this City of LONDON to which I shall speak some thing at present although he conceale his name yet the seed you shall know by its fruits it is one that would be reckoned amongst those children that in the Temple cried Hosanna to the Son of David Mat. 12. 15. But the seed which David called Lord is risen and hath rebuked the false voice for it is not every one that cryeth Lord Lord nor every one that cryeth Hosanna that enters into the kingdome but such as heareth the word of God and doth it Now the testimony which this Author gives to that which after a long travel is come forth is this that it hath been in his brest two years and upwards while it at length is come forth as an untimely birth or as that which is born out of due time labouring under the burden of being both unnecessary and unseasonable Such a testimony as this seems to beget a wonder in the airy spirits of men as if a Monster were to be seen what two years travel and yet an untimely birth many such false cries is in this City which enters into the sensuall part of men and begets into the affections but there is a seed risen which hath received from the father the spirit of Judgement and understanding and it doth not owne things according to the report nor Judge of things according to their names in outward appearance but hath a measuring line given unto it and a true ballance whereby voices ways worships and testimonyes is tried before they be approved and therewith shall this spirit be tried and voice which is come forth crying Hosanna to the son of David or a testimony to the Lords Christ which being truly weighted searched may prove a testimony against the Lords Christ which hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world in setting up mans spirit to be the light instead of the Lords Christ But first let us consider the burden under which this man hath laboured which is as he saith that which is both unnecessary and unseasonable first unnecessary because the same hath been before by better hands so it is not to be admired as a Monster because it hath already been and effected nothing Secondly unseasonable because those are already resolved that Jesus Christ is the true light which hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world which he would resolve that the spirit in every man is that light and so according to this every man must follow his own spirit instead of following the light which Christ hath enlightned him withall Now this burden thus considered which is both unnecessary unseasonable haveing been in his brest above two years all that have received the spirit of Judgement and knows the workings of the mysterie of iniquity and can truly read the state of those which are filled with unrighteousnesse knows that this birth is cursed before ever it came forth and it had been better that it had never been born nor brought forth into the world for it will be to the great agravation of his sorrow and misery which did conceive it and so long travel in it at last brought it forth but among the untimely births shall we reckon it which never saw the ●un nor never received blessing from the Father and happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast rewarded us and happy shall he be that takes and dasheth thy untimely birth against the stones Psalm 137. 8. 9. Against this birth hath the Lord ●●reched forth his everlasting arme to dash in peices and this is not the first of Babylons children which in this age and in this City hath been brought forth to the spoile nor the first which this man hath brought forth for he hath brought forth another without a name which is both as unnecessary and as unseasonable as this And so from experience

he may say that it is both unnecessary and unseasonable either to conceive or bring forth any such thing against the seed which the Lord hath blessed for there was never any as yet which did strive against the Lord or his annoynted ones which did prosper neither shall to the ends of the earth So the burden of this man is searched Judged and found not to be the burthen of the word of the Lord though he thought it to be so when in him he felt the fire of enmity boyling and bubling up within him as in his Epistle But we have found it to be such a burthen as the false Prophets in Jerusalem did see for the people which was false burthens and causes of banishment Lam. 2. 14. But if the fire of the Lord had been kindled in him it would have consumed this birth in the womb before ever it had been brought forth But the hour is comeing and now is in which the Lord is fulfilling his promise according to the Scriptures which saith that he will make Jerusalem a burthensome stone for all people all that burthen themselves with it shall be cut in peices though all the people upon the earth be gathered together against it Zac. 12. 3. And as this was spoken so it is fulfilled and fulfilling that the testimony of God may be sealed up among his children For now is the light risen with which the Lord Christ is gathering into the new Jerusalem the City of the living God and now hath many burthened themselves with it And so burthened that they cannot tel how to unburthen themselves of it but to ease themselves of that burthen which is ready to presse them down they break forth into revileing termes and un●avory speeches and false assertions against the light and those that walk in it and will deny both the light and children of light to be spiritual Some calling it natural light some calling it natural conscience some created light some the light of reason and understanding some old creation light some a dim light some the spirit of man and so burthen themselves with it when they have both spoken and printed such things to ease them of their burthen their burthen grows again and so they do not cease to vex and grieve the holy spirit of God from day to day and when they have burthened themselves with the enmity against the light and the works of righteousnesse proceeding forth from it to the father then they cry the burthen of the Lord the fire of the Lord within them But saith the Lord to such I will destroy that man and his house and the burthen of the Lord shall ye mention no more for every mans word shall be his burthen for ye have perverted the words of the living God of the Lord of Hosts our God Ier. 23. 36. Theref●re is the measureing line gone forth to measure the false burthens whereby they pervert the words of the living God with their own words and Imaginations and unto those which ever were reproachers of the way and people of God the Lord saith I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you and a perpetual shame which shall not be forgotten Ier. 13. 40. So this is written that no man should any more burthen themselves with the burthensome stone wereby they will be broken to peices if they fall upon it But that every one may come to it that with it they may see their false burthens and the sin which doth so easiely beset them and may cease grieving of the spirit of the Lord while his spirit striveth with them may come to know every man his own word which will become his burthen when it returns again unto him But the word of the Lord goeth forth returns not empty neither doth it burthen him which it goes forth from when it returns again unto him Although the true burthen of the word of the Lord be known in many before it go forth from them Therefore then seeing that it is an untimely birth and not that which is born of the sprit which is come forth from him to whom I now am to speak Now least others being in the same blindnesse with him think as he doth that it is a true voice or Hosana to the Son of David or a true testimony to the Lords Christ I shall weigh his testimony seeing that the true Voice is gone forth both in the dayes of his flesh and since in which dayes he was truly declared to be the light of the world and the true light which lightneth every one that cometh into the world Ioh. 1. 9. Ioh. 8. Now seeing that this Author hath set up another thing to be the light which hath enlightned every man then Christ viz. the spirit of man I shall try this testimony according to the Scriptures whether it be a testimony of the Lords Christ or a testimony against him in these things following which are the Heads of his Doctrine conc●rning the Light Concerning the LIGHT what it is It is the spirit of every man which is in him and without which he cannot ●e a man and is the Candle of the Lord Prov. 20. 27. This spirit of a man is the Reason of a man or the Vnderstanding of a man What this Light doth it gives him to know his Creator and the end of his creation viz. who made him and why he was made also how he should answer the end of him that made him and that God set up this Light in man to see by both whom he is to serve and how he is to serve him together with the reason thereof Because God made him And with this Light God hath s●● up a Law which Law is called Light Prov. 6. 23. whereby the will and mind of his Creator is made known unto him and he sufficiently qualified to see it understand it c. p. 7. It searcheth the inward parts of the Belly At first it moved upward and it could look God in the face and serve him But now since the fall the Thief is got into this Candle and hath dim'd the light and covered the aspiring ascendan● quality and now it burn● downward and discovers the things beneath pag. 6. That it is all eye it sees all that is done but doth nothing it neither likes nor dislikes approves nor disproves but as it is in conjunction with a Law pag. 10. That it is the property of Light to make manifest Eph. 5. 13. Pag. 29. That it is not in the power of the Light as it is in every man so much as to call any thing that is done either good or ●vil pag. 32. That the Light did drive Adam from the voice and presence of God so far is the Light from leading up to God that i● drives ●●e soul from God and keeps him in the fall pag. 53. That it doth not lead into all truth such as love it and obey it pag. 54. Not doth it reveal

according to his words who was sent a Messenger before his face to bear witnesse to the truth and his witnesse is true Ioh. 2. 9. And as Christ hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world so we say to every man warning both small and great to believe in the light that they may be the children of light which was Christs Doctrine to the world Ioh. 12. 36. And now what Christ doth and effecteth by it in those that believe in his light and followeth it which effects and opperations by the world is denyed and by us is affirmed some of the effects of it I shall mention which is opposed as first That it will not let those that are guided by it take Gods Name in vain but will draw th●m out of the Worships of the world and keep them in the fear of God and to stand still in it is the first step to peace That it discovers things that are contrary to it That it is their Teacher that love it and their condemnation that hate it according to Christs words Ioh. 3. 19. That waiting in it will guide them to God and shew them the way to the Father as Christ saith No man cometh unto the Father but by me Ioh. 14. 6. and no man cometh unto the Father by Christ but as they are led and guided by his light within them That it op●ns all the Scriptures and leads man out of the fall up to God for him hath the Fath●r given to be a Leader and Commander unto the people and he leadeth them by his light Another effect is That it convinceth of all ungodlinesse and worldly lusts and is a Teacher and Director teaching and directing in righteousnesse purity and holinesse c. And that the light is but one in him that loves it and in him that hates it leading the one to God from whence it comes to receive eternal life and condemning the other from God because he obeyeth not the truth that he might be saved And this is the testimony of truth which is now held forth never to be denyed But who hath believed our report even they to whom the Arm of the Lord is revealed And this is the way by which people may come to know the truth of this testimony by obeying the light which Christ hath enlightned them withall thereby shall they know whether this Doctrine be of God or whether we speak of ourselves and whether all those effects is not brought forth by the working of Christs light in them and then they shall not believe onely because of our words nor be envious against it because of others words but will finde the testimony in themselves which is according to the record which God hath given of his Son and according to the testimony which we have given of the light and he that believeth shall be established Now that which opposeth this is that which beareth a testimony contrary to Christ who saith For this end was I born and for this end came I into the world to bear witnesse unto the truth and every one that is of the truth heareth my voice Ioh. 18. 37. And this was his witnesse and his Messengers witnesse That he was the Light of the world and That this is the true light which hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world Ioh. 8. 12. Ioh. 1. 9. And this contrary testimony which is brought forth is this That it is the spirit of man that is the light which hath enlightned every man and so going about to prove the spirit of man not to be sufficient under this would destroy the sufficiency of the light of Christ But the Scriptures never did give testimony that the spirit of man was the light of the world neither did we ever say that this light was the spirit of every man nor a natural light And therefore this man which hath writ a Volume in proving a natural light or mans reason insufficient let all people take notice what he contradicts or disproves by it he doth not by it contradict nor disprove any thing that we have said for we never did affirm that mans reason was the light but he hath laboured to contradict himself He hath set up an Image and then glories in breaking of it down from our words draws a false inference and glories in confounding it And this is the general course of our opposers to raise a false proposition or conclusion from their own imaginations and then contradict it and then cry The Quakers contradicted or confuted and their Doctrine disproved and they irrecoverably slain and many such cryes is gone forth in the world among people like the noise of many waters To which I answer Nay they are not of such a birth that they are so easily slain nor of such a Doctrine that they are so easily disproved for the immortal birth is brought forth unto which God hath given wisdom and understanding to be as wise as Serpents and in their innocency is their wisdom brought forth which Seed inheriteth the strength of the Almighty so though they be permitted to fight and contend against the truth yet to prevail is not given them Therefore in vain is the Net spread in the sight of any Bird and in vain do they exercise their strength against the Lords annointed for this which they have brought forth is but as setting of bryars and thorns in battel against the Lord or as if the untimely birth should strive against that birth which is brought forth without deformity to slay it as those in former ages who were wiser in their generation then the children of light sought to slay the Heir that the Inheritance might be theirs In like manner do men now also rise up against the life of the same Seed which is risen in the hearts of the children of men to slay it that so they may professe the Scriptures in their high swelling words of vanity having mens persons in admiration because of advantage for if this Seed doth live which the Lord hath not onely brought to the birth but also brought forth it will stop that profession which stands in the hypocrisie and will quench that violence of fire in which that zeal flames out which is not according to knowledge But the Seed is risen which inherits the strength of the Almighty which can bear all things and suffer all things and will come to reign over all gainsayers for all the high swelling words of vanity shall come to nought and truth shall be exalted over all in the power of the eternal Spirit when blacknesse of darkness will cover all those spirits which have spent their strength against the appearance and manifestation of truth and those that now boast themselves in their presumption against the servants of the Lord and testimony of truth Shall come to be a servant of servants even to the least in the kingdom of God before they have right unto that which they now profess