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A48945 A letter from the most ingenious Mr. Lodowick Rhode-Island, Febr. 1, 1691-2. Ludovici, C. (Christian), 1660-1728. 1692 (1692) Wing L2813; ESTC W13455 5,360 10

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A LETTER from the most Ingenious Mr. LODOWICK Rhode-Island Febr. 1. 1691 2. Honoured Esteemed Mr. Mather HAving seen your Book called Quakerism Displayed wherein you have been pleased to mention my Name and my Challenge to the Quakers of this Island I am thereby emboldned to trouble You at this time with some Lines sending You withal Three Books penned by G. Keith with a Ma. nuscript of His Written by Him about Three years ago By perusing His Way to the City of God from p. 128. to 133. You will see what Christ he owned at that time and from p. 62 to 65. You will see what He then understood by the Seed Light and Grace within and in p. 50 51 18. what His Faith in Christ then was But G. Keith perhaps by means of His Controversies with Mr. Hicks perceiving the many Absurdities which follow from this New Fabrick e.g. that the Heavenly Body or Divine Intermediate Substance if there was really such an one would be discerpible into particles which particles should be carried hither and thither by men as they step from place to place and that there would have been so many Messia's or Christs within consisting of a Spirit and Body as there have been Saints from the beginning and that the portion of that Body in the Son of Mary increased in quantity and that that Heavenly Substance consisting of a Body and Spirit should be most properly the Father of Christ the Second Adam if a portion of him supplied the Male-Seed in the Conception of Christ in Mary c. built some years after another Fabrick as You will find by His The way cast up from p. 89. to 168. which he further defends in his Third Book By the Manuscript You may further understand the Dotages of this Notional Man which some obscure Passages in his late Books have reference unto When I read Y●ur Book I did wish that You might have had the perusal of these Books of his ere You wrote Yours For tho' You have notably discovered the Errors of the Generality of the Quakers whom I call F●xians yet there is also a little party dispersed to and fro among the common Foxians who tho' they observe G. Foxes Ordinances and pass with the rest under the Designation of Quakers are nevertheless no true Foxians but may for distinction sake be called Semiquakers or Semi-Foxians but they are so few that I believe if they were all gathered together they might meet in one room and make no considerable appearance They are most of them the more learned sort of the people called Quakers the chief writers of these are G. Keith Ro. Barclay both Scotchmen and because Mr. Faldo and Mr. Hicks knew not the distinction that is to be made between the Foxians Semi-foxians and their several Opinions G. Keith and W. Pen were in some things too hard for them for notwithstanding what W. Pen had written before that time as a Foxian touching the Three Persons Christs Satisfaction Remission of sins c. He subtilly without confessing any change acted the Semi-foxian in his controversies with Mr. Faldo and Mr. Hicks The common Foxians conceive that that which condemns every man within him is a measure of the Essence of God which they call Christ the Light the Word and the Eternal Spirit c. And they conceive that this Christ is also the Father because Christ is called Everlasting Father and the Hely Ghost because he is a Spirit as God and they fancy that as this Inward Condemner doth condemn for some evil which they call a Manifesting R●vealing and shewing them what is evil so it does shew them not only Errors in Practice but also Errors in Judgment and that if they be faithful to it which they call believing in it it will reveal unto them more in time and that there is no more required of any man then God or Christ hath thus shown him within him c. And herein consist their daily Divine Illuminations Inspirations Revelations of knowledge but their Experimental knowledge of Christs Birth Deat● R●surrection c. Consists in this that when a man is Converted then they say the Immortal Babe is born Christ the Seed and Lamb which was slain comes to be Raised and he ascends the Throne and comes to Judgement in Clouds of Heaven within and Judgeth such a man for his sins whereby they only describe the various condition of man's Conscience And hence they deny wholly that ever Christ as Man shall come down from Heaven to Raise and Judge the Dead And they say that that which is a man's Troubler Reprover and Condemner within him will be also his Comforter Approver Justifier and Saviour if he believes in it and it will redeem and save him from all sin and from W●ath for sin esteeming the checks of the Conscience to be God's Wrath Herein they place their Salvation and Redemption from sin viz. some wilful sinning and their sin●ess Perfection consist in their abstinence from gross wilful sinning and the peace of Conscience ensuing thereupon they call the peace of God and Justification in the sight of God And their Inherent Righteousness they call the Righteousness of Christ which he hath wrought within them and they do never speak of the Merit of the sufferings Death and Resurrection of Jesus at Jerusalem but they call his Righteousness a Rightousness of another at a distance which can do us no good and they say it is an inward blood that must cleanse our Souls inwardly And here also may be understood what their Baptism of Repentance with Fire and with the Spirit of Judgement is VIZ. When a man is inwardly Judged for his sin so as to repent of it And unto this PROTON PSEUDOS or fundamental Error VIZ. That the Inward Condemner is Christ the Light and if obeyed will become a mans Justifier and Saviour they have suted all their other Doctrines concerning Christ saying that the true Christ was never seen with Mortal Eyes heard with Carnal Ears and that the Visible Body Born of Mary was but a Garment of the true Christ tabernacling in it which body some of them say he hath laid down others canot tell what is become of it and they say to mind Christ in that bodily appearance and manifestation as they call it is to know Christ after the Flesh and they call their Christ within Christ in the Spirit they say that Christ Born of Mary was Christ in the Flesh And beacuse they read of Eating Christ●s Flesh and of Drinking his Blood they have feigned also an Omnipresent and Invisible Body of Spiritual Flesh and Blood which they say the Saints in all Ages partook of within them and when they feel an inward Affectedness or sensible Refreshment of their Boweis which they call the ●if● then they say they eat of Christs Flesh or of the Bread of Life and they drink of his Blood which is Life and by which they are cleansed And herein consists