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A40115 An answer to Dr. Burgess his book, entituled A case concerning of buying bishop lands which he spread before the Parliament, wherein he goes about to justifie that tythes is the ministers of the gospels maintenance. Fox, George, 1624-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing F1743; ESTC R30466 28,881 40

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in the beginning the word of life that you might have fellowship with the Father and the Son and with us And who are in this are out of ninths and tenths both in which all figures ends types and shadowes ends and by which word all inventions of men are thrown down And so taking away tythes is but robbing as they call it the Popes Church the false Church which set them up but not according to the Law of God which was not according to the Law of God nor Gospel and have not given them according to the Law of God had they done it there had not been a begger in Christendome for the Law made that provision but the Gospel is above the Law which redeemes people out of the ninths opens the heart of people So they are pitiful poor and silly that are talking of the tenths in this the day of the Gospel the Lambs power and his marriage and the comming up of the true Church out of the Wildernesse judging the false Church and great whore which is got up since the dayes of the Apostles which hath fulfilled Christs words and Christs words must be fulfilled as in Mat. 24. who saith every tree that bears not fruit must be hewen down and cast into the fire which scripture is fulfilling to destroy the false Prophets and yet save the creature who wrestleth with the power of darknesse and spiritual wickednesses and not with flesh and blood such have spiritual weapons but they that ravened from the spirit of God lost the spiritual weapons and so got Caines which hath guarded the great whore which has killed the Saints with Caines weapons Cain killed Abel and built a City and so who ever comes into this great City where nin●●● and tenths and inwardly raveners are false Prophets great whore the false Church old Mass-houses they must look to have their flesh and blood wrestled against where the dragons flag and the whores golden cup is holden forth Now look over whole Christendom you may see what hath got up since the dayes of the Apostles and what a fenced City here hath been and how it is fenced and how the blood of the Martyrs hath been drunk in it which keeps the Commands of God and the Testimony of Jesus which hath the Spiritual weapons and how many this great Whore hath put to death by her weapons this false church the Lord open your understandings that you may see to the dayes of the Apostles who said that the ages should come that God would shew forth the exceeding Riches that was among them as you may read in the Ephesians the second chapter And these ages are come so here is a distinction betwixt the Ministers of the Spirit and the ministers of the great Whore which ravened inwardly from the Spirit of God which hath had the sheeps cloathing which beast and great Whore hath been in the Dragons power killing and murthering which City hath been filled with violence and blood But the power of God over all this is gone over all this is felt to the dayes of the Apostles what state they were in and what state hath been since with that we see to the beginning with the Word of God which was in the beginning Doctor page the seventh Thou sayest thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the Ox that treadeath out the Corn. Answer We say so where he gets out Corn not to muzzle his mouth but let not the Ox eat where he doth not tread out the Corn let him not transgress all this is nothing to Tithes for we do not read that the children of Israel the Priests was to take Tithes of any but of the children of Israel not of the Gentiles we do not read that Christ set up a Law or the Apostles that they should take the Tenths of the Gentiles but man being drove from God into the earth A Virgin shall bare a Child which by interpretation is Immanuel God with us and I will give him for a light to the Gentiles and for a new Covenant to the house of Israel and to the house of Judah and many of the prisoners have shewed themselves forth man drove from God man brought to God again Doctor Let him that is taught in the Word communicate to him that teacheth in all good things Gal. the sixth chapter Answ We say yes let him that is taught do it but he doth not say he that is not taught Therefore this condemns all the Priests since the dayes of the Apostles who would have from them they do not teach contrary to the Rule of Scripture and Doctrine of the Apostles and cast into Prison those they do not teach these serve not the Lord Jesus Christ but their own bellies and teach for filthy lucre which they ought not who would have all good things communicated to them from them they do not teach So he that is taught in the Word communicates to him that teacheth in all good things Mark this just Rule He that is taught he that teacheth so every one maintain his own Minister that will have one And be not deceived God is not mocked for that which you sow that you shall reap sow to the flesh you shall reap corruption sow to the Spirit life Eternal and they that are inwardly ravened cannot sow to the Spirit but sows to the flesh Therefore you may look in whole Christendom what a Field of corruption there is to be Reaped and what unreasonable Ministers there is that will bring this Scripture and say That he that is taught in the Word let him Communicate to him that teacheth in all good things when they never taught him hath not taught him in the Word yet will have good things Communicated to him whether these be not unreasonable wolves in sheeps cloathing who will take treble Tithes of him and hale him before Courts if it be a hundred or two hundred miles and then cast him into Prison and then bring people the Scriptures for a Cloak and denying the light within which they should fee withal So such are transgressors of the Doctrine of the Apostles which takes of them which they have not taught in the Word neither do they preach the Word which was in the beginning which ends the Priests that had the Tenths and wresteth the Scriptures and this is nothing to Tenths and no where Tithes is Commanded in the New Testament but onely as Christ said ye ought to do it before he was offered up but when he was Sacrificed up it was finished and the Priesthood that took them the Law and Command they Triumphed over them And Ananias and Saphirah makes nothing for Tithes and Christ being hungry they fed him c. And Christ sent forth his Disciples without Bag But what did Judas Bag signifie That Steward that Betrayer Are not all such as invented Tithes and so greedy after the Bag of the substance of Judas that will cast into Prison and betray the innocent in
the Pope got up since the dayes of the Apostles but speaks of things in their place And whether or no these actions and doings doth not shew the false Prophets going with Sheeps cloathing upon their backs and how men are covered with fig-leaves but now in the light openly seen And the Levites and Priests and Widowes and strangers and fatherlesse that was to be fed with the tenths had places to lay their heads in but Christ which redeems out of the ninths has none And the Apostle gave forth an order to Timothy and Titus what Ministers ought to be must be proved and tryed they must be blamelesse and not self-willed not soon angry not given to wine no strikers not given to filthy lucre so then they must first be proved and then they must Minister for after his discease he saw that grievous Wolves would enter in which would be covetous and teachers for filthy lucres sake and the Apostles saw the perilous time coming on that men should be lovers of themselves and covetous this he told Timothy c. therefore gave an order to prove them and to try them as you may read the first Epistle to Timothy 3 chapter but what strikers are got abroad blameable men covetous greedy of filthy lucre unpatient brawlers brawling in their pulpets And so if Monasteries Abbies Nunneries Mass evening songs go down why not Tythes Did not he that set up one set up the other by the unrighteous law And why should the Priests they which be of the Jesuites tribe wear black coats but you may say people people begins to see us and we will go change our coats take the means deny the work and when the one falls why doth not all with it When the Jesuites fall why doth not Schooles and Colledges Tythes and Mortuaries and Glebe-lands Easter reckonings Midsummer dues the old Mass-houses and the Cross Have not these the Merchants of Babylon made Merchandize of people souls of their bodies Beasts Sheep and all they had And is not this the whore seeing Christ came the substance of all true types figures and shadowes who made all things new ended the tenths and Priests both and all fell down with it when the Law fell and command fell And hath not all these been the blind guides which hath been in the Tythes and the blind leaders which hath run at peoples flesh and blood and creatures Who should have run at the powers of darknesse and wrestled with that and brought the creatures into the liberty of the Sons of God And hath not all these that destroyes men in prison and haleth them before courts whom they do not work for have been charmers for their own bellies and for filthy lucre and covetousnesse and tenths of people and keep people in the ninths worries the Lambs like bryars and thorns and with their unclean feet usurp the place of the Apostles who were preachers of the Gospel that hath been in the chair of Judas of covetousnesse betraying the just which of them all will prepare themselves to preach without bag or lucre in hunger and thirst and fasting and tents as the Apostles did and be like the lillies not take thought what to eat or what to drink or to put on or what to speak as Christ commanded So the reformed Church the Church indeed is out of all these gleabe-lands Easter reckonings Midsummer dues you that go about to reform Churches it is but to change colour for the true Church is a Church of it self which Christ saith he is the head of without spot or wrinkle and blemish purchased with blood and such things for they are got up since the true Church went into the wildernesse and are not agreeable to Law nor Gospel and do you not believe that all the Bishops Lands first set up by the Pope that it was all given for the worship and service of God The Papists did believe it and the Bishops and Priests in England did believe it and the same set up Tithes and do you not believe it that the Priests and Professors doth believe that the powers of the earth doth give them that for the worship and service of God which was first set up by the Papists and not yet plucked down but upholden For was not that first given to the Church this false church this false woman the whore since the True Church went into the Wilderness and denyed by the Church in the dayes of the Apostles Heb. 7. hath not all these that went forth from the Apostles that inwardly ravened offered the strange fire and been in the worship of the Dragon out from the Worship of God in the Spirit not like to worship him in the Spirit when inwardly ravened so swallowed up in the earth Core like for their offering is but as the cutting off a dogs neck or as if they slew a man being inwardly ravened from the Spirit of God which should offer up the Spiritual Sacrifice in which Spirit God should be worshipped All the whole body of these in Christendom both maker and Minister and setter of them up which hath been of men and by men of them owned and heard hath not these made up a great City fenced with the weapons of them that are inwardly ravened who hangs out Cains Flag who are from the Spirit of God and turneth against them that hath the Spirit of God and killeth them and which makes the Word of God of none effect which has set up the Tongues for the Original which was in the beginning before the many Languages was And how are all Nations drunk with the Whores cup and sick and vomit and spewing out that which is naught first transgression inwardly ravened then sick and then vomit and spew and then go among the false physicians for none comes to the True Physician but they that come to that they were ravened from and there they find the True Physician Did not Doctor Burgess take Tithes and gleabe Lands and Easter reckonings and Midsummer dues Is he against the Bishops lands because the Parliament hath taken them away Would he not cry them up to be for the service and worship of God if the Magistrate would set them up again and give them thanks And was not Tithes gleabe Lands Easter reckonings Midsummer dues old Mass houses Schools and Colledges and their Mortuaries and their Tenths set up by the Law of men since the dayes of the Apostles The Magistrates Tenths out of the Tenths now was not this set up by the Law of men And as men come into the fear of God and deny themselves and know the Churches state as it was among the Apostles by the power of God throw down all these things again set up by the Law of men since the false church hath been up Beast Dragon and false prophets and the True Church in the Wilderness do you think she shall not come out of the Wilderness again And the Man-child Rule who was dead and
is alive and Lives for evermore And another thing Doctor Burgess mentions They sold their Lands and laid them down at the Apostles feet Where did ever any of the Priests and teachers got up fince the dayes of the Apostles made by the will of men any of their hearers do so to them as they did to the Apostles which was in the power of God which opens their hearts and as I said before brought them out of the Ninths They must come into the power which brings people out of the Ninths before they do so for the Law brought up Tenths and I will make the Tenths of the earth serve the Strangers Widows and Fatherless and Priests that must change and could not continue because of death which the everlasting Priest ends them which everlasting Priest remains which brings people out of the Ninths and there the Mystery of God is known which ends all types figures and shadows and parables in which they all end For these that say they are Ministers of the Gospel and have the Gleabes Easter reckonings Midsummer dues and Tenths and have the Augmentations provided for them how do these plant Vineyards and tread out the Corn and Plough and Thresh in hope to be made partakers of their hope and sow Spiritual and keep carnal None of all this need be if they were such Ministers that planted Vineyards and sowed Spirituals and taught the Word of God which was in the beginning which opens the hearts of people Thou sayest in thy seventh page that Gleabes is not to be sold from the Churches but they must be employed for the maintenance of the Ministers of the Gospel Answ Yes for they are set up by the Popes both by the old Mass-houses and the Gleabes and maintains them idle with other things given to them and keeps them from labouring threshing and ploughing who hath ravened from the Spirit of God and went forth from the Apostles so from the Spiritual weapons they should work withal but onely the earthly tools set up earthly Temples and Schools and Colledges to make Ministers which is not the Temple of God the old Mass-houses East and West with a cross on the end of it which were made by men and not by the W●ll of God But them that witness their bodies the Temple of God and comes to the power the Apostles were in denies the old Mass-houses which inwardly raveners have invented and denies them that are made by the will of man they do that are made by the Will of God and preacheth forth freely as they have received freely Though they have power to eat and power to drink yet in many places they will not use their power them that plant Vineyards and eat of the milk of the Flock and keeps the Gospel without charge but why do the Ministers made by the will of men say that the people are carnal in their Petitions and in their writings and yet will have means of the carnal people and Petition the Magistrate for means from them and sue them in Courts for it they should eat of the milk of the Flock but is not this to shew that they wrest the Scriptures and make it serve their own ends And since the True Church went into the Wilderness they set up their Steeple-house to be one and since the True Cross the power of God hath been lost they have set up a wooden one on the top of it And since the True Ministers hath been lost which were made by the Will of God they have set up Schools and Colledges to make Ministers in their own wills and since the Power of God hath been lost which is the Gospel they have put the four Books Matthew Mark Luke and John for the Gospel the false prophets that inwardly ravened that got the sheeps cloathing have put that for the Gospel and went forth from the power of God the Gospel being inwardly ravened And since the Word of God hath been lost from man they have put the Scripture for it the Words of God as in Exodus God spake all these Words and every Word of God is pure saith the Prophet and he that addeth to these Words saith John in the Revelations and my Words saith Christ not the Word of God so the Words of God are the Scriptures of truth learnt of God but Christ is the Word which was in the beginning before the Words were spoken who comes to fulfil the Words of God in whom they end And since men hath ravened from the Spirit of God which should offer Spiritual offerings they invented these Easter reckonings Midsummer dues and such like but now are they discovered And the cry hath been in this great City by Beast Dragon and false prophets great Whore and the teachers under her and professors prophecy is ceased Revelation is ceased And how should they say Revelation was standing or Prophecy standing When they are inwardly ravened from the Spirit of God which doth inspire and reveal And to hear the voice of God there is no such thing now cry people Now how should they hear the voice of God who are inwardly ravened So no Ministers made by the will of God now but by men by Schooles and Colledges But who are come to the spirit of God they ravened from knowes revelation and inspiration and hearing of Gods voice and not of men nor by men are they made Ministers but by the Revelation of Jesus as the Apostles witnessed and are come to that which hath gotten the great Whore Mystery Babylon Beast Dragon false prophets betwixt them and the Apostles with the power of God and are come over them with the power that the Apostles was in Glory in the Highest for ever And so when they inwardly ravened and went from Christ the Everlasting Priest they set up other Priests made by men and heard them instead of Christ and when they inwardly ravened and went from the Apostles from the annointing within which did teach them and needed none other to teach them but as the same annointing did teach them to continue in the Son and in the Father so not in the Peace Christ the Peace but are such as destroy and worry one another about Easter reckonings Midsummer dues Tithes and Stipends and Augmentations and worry their Hearers for Tenths such are like them that Micah spoke of in the third chapter That brings people all on heaps that must be ploughed up like a field out of the Apostles Power and Doctrine out of the Prophet Micahs Spirit The first Priest-hood was a type of the everlasting Priesthood Christ Jesus the law without a figure of the Law within the first covenant was a figure of the everlasting covenant which first covenant stood in types shadowes and figures for the bringing in of a better hope so we witnesse the better hope come in and the end of the other and the offerings in the first Priest-hood was a figure of Christ the everlasting offering who offered up