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A87230 Innocency above impudency: or, The strength of righteousness exalted, above the Quakers weakness and wickedness; in a reply to a lying pamphlet, call'd Weakness above wickedness: published by J. Nayler, in answer to a book, entituled, The Quakers quaking. By which his notorious lyes are made manifest, and the truth of the said book justified: / by Jeremiah Ives. Ives, Jeremiah, fl. 1653-1674. 1656 (1656) Wing I1102; Thomason E886_2; ESTC R207339 35,836 59

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