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A00387 A playne and godly exposytion or declaratio[n] of the co[m]mune crede (which in the Latin tonge is called Symbolum Apostolorum) and of the. x. co[m]maundementes of goddes law, newly made and put forth by the famouse clarke, Mayster. Erasmus of Roterdame, at the requeste of the moste honorable lorde, Thomas Erle of wyltshyre: father to the moste gratious and vertuous Quene Anne wyf to our most gracyous soueraygne lorde kynge Henry the. viii. Cum priuilegio.; Catechismus. English Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536.; Marshall, William, fl. 1535. 1534 (1534) STC 10504; ESTC S101698 157,733 357

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whome mentio● is made in the gospel many synnes were forgeuen because she loued moche Luc. vii Beside this our lorde geuyng auctorite to his apostles of forgeuyng sines breathed vpon thē sayīg Take you the holy ghoste Benignite or liberalyte is declared in this that the gyftes whi●he sayncte Paule reherceth very many and diuerse Ioan. xx Goodnesse or liberalite i. Cor. xii Rom. xii i. Cor. xii are called the benefightes of one spirite whiche distributeth at his owne pleasure to euerye man accordynge to the measure quantite of his faythe yt is the maner of thē that do triūphe to scatter caste from a hyghe place monaye or other gyftes amonge the people So lykewise Christe after that he was ascended into heuen there to make a triumphe accordyng to the prophecie of the Psalme wryter He ledde captiuite captiue leding away with hym those whome he had taken out frō hel neither cōtēted with this Psal. lxiii Ephesi iiii he gaue giftes to men lefte behynd hym ī earthe that is to witte the gyftes of ꝓphecie the gyftes of tongꝭ the gyftes of knowlege the gyftes of curynge maladies or diseases the gyftes of expulsions agaynste poysons wicked spiritꝭ Brefly he gaue the hole company of all vertues which gyftes eue●y one Christe hath distributed to his seruaūtes dayly doth distribute by his spirite ¶ what this worde bonus doth signifie otherwhiles For this worde bonus .i. good to latyne men do●he sowne and signifie otherwhiles mylde gentel or mercifull and otherwiles bountuose and liberall Therefor saynte Paule prouokyng the Galathians from vengeance to humanite and gentylnesse doth in culke oft repete the name of the spirite sayenge Galat. vi ☞ yf we lyue in the spirite obretherē let vs walke also in the spirite yf ony man shall be preuēted or taken in ony synne you that are spirituall instructe and amende hym that is suche one in the spirite of mildnes Dauid saythe Psal. c. xlii ☞ Thy good spirite shall cōducte and lede me in to the righte londe And saynte Paule sayth Rom. v. The charite of god is spredde or poured abrode in our hertes by the holy spirite whiche is geuen to vs. Rom. viii And writynge to the Romanes he calleth that the spirite of adoption by whiche we do crye father father Lyke thynges doth he write to the Galathians Galat. iiii Because you are the sones of god god hathe sente the spirite of his sone in our hertes cryinge father father These two wordes so●e and father are names of loue whiche no man can truly pronounce and speke but by the be●efighte of the holy ghoste lykewise as accordynge to the testimonie of Sayncte Paule 1. Cor. xii Noman doth call Iesu lorde but in the holy ghoste Those men that haue the spirite of this worlde do falsly crie father father They do falsely saye to Christ lorde lorde whose spirite they do wante Rom. viii ☞ For who so euer hathe not the spirite of Christ that man is none of Christes And lykewise as the holye ghoste is that ineffable bonde or knotte by whiche the thre persones are inseparable ioyned among them selues eche to other with eternall cōcorde euen so the same spirite with an vnlowseable bonde dothe ioyne the spousesse of Christe to her spouse and also dothe couple and knytte to gether all the mēbres of Cristes misticall body with a ꝑpetull bonde of loue amonge themselues euery one with other DIS yf the holy ghoste doth procede of the substance of god the father of the sone what dothe let that he may not be called sone MAGI Saynte Cyprian hilary Augustine thoughte it sufficiente to aunswere in this wise to this question because the scripture dothe call the seconde person sone and sayth that he is begotten and borne of the father but it doth in no place saye neither that the holye ghoste is begotten or borne neither dothe it call hym ony where sone This aunswere whiche so e●cellente men thoughte sufficiente it is conueniente and mete forthe to be contented withall yf out of two fountaynes or sprynges one ryu●● dyd issue that riuer mighte well be saide to come forthe or to be sente from bothe those sayde springes but yet sholde it be called the sone of neither nouther of them bothe DIS Is it sufficiente than to beleue this that you haue taught me as touchynge to the holy ghoste MAG No verily but you muste also beleue that this spirite which was a fore sayde of the prophetes and promised of Christe dyd on whitsonday come down vpon the Apostles and Disciples soo as saynte Luke reherseth Actuum ii because of the wicked and blasphemouse arrogance of certayn persones whiche haue not ben afrayde to saye I am that comforter ☞ whome Christe promised to you Ioan. xiiii for to lede you in to all verite and truthe whether he were Maniche or whether he were Basillides or Montane or ony other of those execrable names DIS Actes ii Actuum viii● That whiche came downe vpon the disciples and whiche was geuen to them that were baptized by layeng on of the Apostles handes whether was it the very substance of the holy ghoste A question notable orels was it some gyfte efficacie of the holy ghoste Aunswere MAG It is more prouable lykely that the holy spirite whiche as touchynge to his diuine nature fyllyng all thynges dothe contynue and abyde vncomprehended was there after a certayne speciall and peculiare maner vnder a visible sygne as touchynge to the propretie of his persone But to entremedle with these matters nowe at this tyme is as it is wonte to be sayd in the prouerbe to lepe ouer the hedge passe beyond the boundes Thou haste nowe gotteu knowledge of the spirite that sanctifieth all thynges nowe herken somewhat of the churche that is sancti●ied of the sayde spirite DIS yf there haue ben a societie and felowshippe of all holy men frō the begynnynge of the worlde and yf that all godly men haue hadde the holy ghoste present with thē why was there no name to this secrete societie afore the tyme of the lawe For after the lawe geuen it was called the synagoge and after the Gospel geuen the name beynge chaunged it was called the churche MAG what name it hadde afore the olde lawe geuen it is not euidētly knowne of vs but yet that it hadde some name is very prouable lykelye seynge that the thynge was all one Christe hathe at all tymes knowne and acknowledged his spousesse neyther hathe she at ony tyme wanted the spirite of Christ. The churche stode in a verie fewe persones at the begynnynge But in the begynnyng lykewise as few men hadde knowledge of the dystynction of the persones but they dyd professe one god which speche doth comprehende secretly and closelye thre persones and fewe men dyd knowe the persone of the sone and fewer dyd knowe the holy ghost
entre into the kynges court beyng ragged and spryncled with myre and durte much lesse than it is conueniēt that any man shold entre into holy church beyng defyled with synnes And therfore forth with at the very threshold and fyrste entrye of the church is gyuen a bath that he may entre in pure and clene whiche thyng euen in the olde tyme was obserued and kept by an outward ryte and ceremonye for the sexten of the churche standyng afore the churche dore dyd sprincle and cast holy water vpon them that entred in to the churche And the olde doctoures do referre this article vnto the grace of baptisme by whiche all synnes are frely forgeuen And in the Crede whiche is songen at masse there is mencion made of baptisme and none at all of penaunce Confit●or ●num baptisma ī remissionem peccat●rum I knowledge and confesse one baptyme in to the forgeuenes of synnes In the symbole of Athanasius there is no mencion made neyther of baptyme neyther of penaunce for as I haue tolde the before he dothe nat expoune this parte of the symbole The diuines of more late tyme do very well vnder the name of baptyme comprehende also penaunce whiche sholde scasely haue founde any place or haue ben receiued in the churche if sayncte ☞ Paule had nat commaunded i. Cor. v. that he which had maried his fathers wyfe sholde be delyuered to Satan ii Corio ii and anon after had cōmaunded the same agayne to be receiued into the grace company of holy men Amonge the people of Affrike there was graunted but only ones retournynge agayne into the churche The maner vsed in the chyrches of Affrike leste the seuerite and sharpenes of the ecclesiasticall disciply●e ordre myghte ware fainte And by the space of certayne hundreth yers those that were falen into any greuouse or haynouse cryme were caste out and kepte from entrynge into the churche neyther were they receyued in agayne but by open cōfession and also sharpe longe satisfaction and penaunce Afterwardes because of the frowardnes of rych men which had leuer styrre and rayse vp a scysme or diuision than to submytte themselues to the churche the remedye of penaunce was tempered and modified by the bysshops so that now the preste onely shold here that thynge whiche before all the people was wont to here whiche preste also shold remedye and heale the woundes with farre more mylde and gentle medicines This myldenes was not only ordayned to be vsed for cause of the imbecillite and weakenes of men but also for the custodie of symple and innocente persons to whome is is expedient not to know the names of many vices DIS Haue there ben none erroures rysen about this article MAG Pelagius Iouinianus Pelagius and Iouiniane dyd teache that infauntes neded not to be baptized for that as they thought infantes had no spotte of synne which myght be washed away for they sayd that original synne was in none saue onely in Adam and Eue but that all other men and women were borne pure and clene from all maner synne and therfore that in them baptyme was nothynge els but● an honourable signe and tokē by which they myght be receyued into the adoption of sonnes and myght be commēded to the affections and myndes of christen men But the erroneouse opinion of these twayne the church doth refuse and condemne folowynge the saying of Christ in the thyrd chapitre of Iohan Ioannis .iii. vnlesse a man be borne agayne by water the holy ghoste he can not entre in the kyngdome of god And saynt Paule in the thyrde chapitour to the Romanes Roma iii. All men haue synned and do nede the glorie of god Amonge the people of Aphrike there sprong vp certayn whiche dyd not receyue them into the communion felowshyp of the church whiche had ben baptized of heretikes vnlesse that they were baptized agayne of the catholyqs And this doctrine also hath the church reiected and condemned and hath taught accordyng to the saying of sayncte Paule Ephe. iiii that there is but one baptyme wherof any maner man maye be a minyster all be it that he be an heretyke or an euyll man so that accordyng to the mynde of the churche he do baptyze by the inuocation and callynge on of the holy trinite howe be it yet where as is no necessyte to the cōtrary it is conu●niēt and accordyng that baptyme be gyuē by a preste or by deacones and it is a more sure waye to washe agayne those which haue ben baptized of hethen men or of Iewes but with this exception if thou be not duely and in right maner baptyzed I do baptize the In the same Affryke which accordynge to the prouerbe of the Grekes always bryngeth forthe some newe monstre Donatiani sprāg vp the Donatianes which bosted that in all churches the grace of baptyme was fayled saue onely in the churche and congregation of themselues therfore they preched openly that baptyme dyd nothyng auayle any man excepte it were receyued agayne amonge them But the churche accordyng to the Iohon̄ .i. testimony of Ihon̄ Baptiste vpō whom thou shalt see the holy ghoste lyghtyng abydynge vpō hym this is he whiche baptyzed● hath taught that mā is no●●e other thynge than the minyster of baptyme that it is Christe whiche is the true authour of baptyme the vertue and strēgth wherof is of the bloud of Christ the capacite aptnes to receyue it is by fayth that neyther can it be corrupted through faute of the minister which god doth gyue by faythe neyther can that grace be cōsumed for asmuch as it is in finite sufficient ynough to abolyshe put awaye all the synnes of the worlde althoughe there were x. worldes farre more fylthy synnefull than this A fore this there were the Selencianes which dyd not receyue the water of baptyme Selenciani but onely the baptym of the spirite And there were some also which dyd put to dyd vse the baptyme of fyre because that ī the thyrd of Matheu Ihon̄ Baptiste doth say Math. iii. He shall baptize you in spirite fyre where as by the spirite he dothe vnderstand meane the priuye or The spirite secrete grace of faythe which onely the holy ghost doth infuse or powre into m●nes soule Fyere by fyre he vnderstondeth charite without which faythe is deade Of all other the Iewes were fyrst which The Iewes falsly taught that baptyme fayth are not sufficiēt to the obtaynyng of helth saluation v●les circumcision were put to whose erroure was condemned of the Apostles selues and specially of Paule Actuum .xv. Gala. v. so that now there is no nede of ony confutation Nouatus Montanus therof Nouatus and Montanus dyd not receyue into the companye and felowshyp of the churche those persones whiche after theyr baptyme had dyshonested and made heuy the
the olde testamēte eyther hadde shadowed signyfyed by figures or els had promysed by the mouthe of the profetes In the examynatyon of witnesse thou knowest well that the consente agremente of the recordes amonge thē selues is of great wayghte and greatly to be regarded Compare that Chryste whiche by many darke redles and fygures is sygnyfyed shadowed in the law of Moises whome so many Prophetꝭ dyd promyse and that at dyuerse sondry tymes with hym whome the hystory of the Gospell doth sette forth playnly afore oure iyes as it were in a scafold and thou shalt see all thes thynges perfyghtly agree to gether Ouer besydes this Prophetes do meruaylously consente and agree amonge themselues one with another where as among the phylosofers of the world there is great stryfe and contraryete of dyuerse sondry opynyons Adde also to these thynges afore reherced the constante and stedfaste consente and agremente of all tymes and of all natyons the faste cōspyration of them vnto this phylosofye hole with one mynde and accorde for who euer wrote ony thynge were he neuer of ●o hyghe excellente witte whiche the whole world dyd so receyue whiche the world dyd with so great cōstancye and stedfastnes retayne cleue vnto that so many thousandꝭ of men of chyldren of women and of vyrgyns nether with dyuerse sondry kyndes of death nether with tormentes more fearefull than death coulde be plucked away frō it whose myndes the lyghte of Fayth had puryfyed And this thynge is by so much the more meruaylouse and wonderfull The wonderfull vertue myght of the Christiane philosophie for that this philosofye as it were a certayne sonne dyd sodeynly shyne and geue lyghte thrugh out the whole worlde and dyd ouercome and gete the vyctory nether by the helpe of myghte and power nether of ryches nor of ony mannes crafte or polycye nether fynally by ony worldly helpe or ayde also for that it hath hetherto agaynste the power of kyngꝭ agaynste worldly wysdome agaynst heretykes beyng a thowsand maner wayes instructed armed to impyete and to be short agaynste all the engynes of the Deuyll stande faste and sure not able to be shakē accordynge to the promysse of Chryst. Math. xvi And the gates of helle shal not preuayle agaynst it DIC. I perceyue now some lyght to shyne euē to myn iyes also though beyng half blynd But whiche is that chef and pryncypall thynge MAG Ueryly thou hast touched it allredy of thyne one accorde DIS Howe so haue I touched it vnwares MAG For thou fealest and perceyuest as thou sayeste some lyghte to haue schyned in to the iyes of thyn harte This is doutles the spyryte of Chry●te Fayth is caused pryncypallye by the ins●yration of the holy ghoste whiche hath now be gonne to shewe his effycacyte strēgthe in thy harte and as I hope and tr●ste shall fynysche and make perfyghte tha● whiche it hath begonne For this is the earnest peny or pledge of the dyuyne spyryte whiche by his secrete inspyratyon doth so confyrme strengthen and estableshe mannes mynde that neyther the power of the deuylls neyther aungells neyther ony creature at all is able to departe it and plucke it awaye from the the fayth and hope whiche are in Chryste Iesu. Suche an affectyon can no ꝑsuasyon of men gendre in our myndes whiche is a very sure and vndowted token that all these thynges are don wrought frō aboue by god For no maner thyng doth sette the mynde of man at quyetnesse and reste saue onely this phylosofye DIS O happy are they whome it hathe chaunced to haue this gyfte MAG Let vs praye desyre i● sure truste and we shall haue it DI. yt but whan you doo name the bokes of both testamentes you do name speake of a greatte be cause I wyll not saye of an vnmeasurable see but what thynge do you aduyse me to learne that am ye● very ignoraūte and more than an infaūte or babe in Chryst MA. The worldly scyences inuented by men haue as thou knowest theyr rudymētes pryncyples So lykewise this heuenly phylosophie also hath certayne rudymentes and pryncyples or rules and instructyons whiche are fyrste taughte to hym that is a yonge beginner and learner in it DIS Whence shall I fetche these sayde rudymentes MAG you maye fynde them in the Symbole or Crede whiche partely for the auctoryte of it partely for a dyfference from other symboles why the commūe Crede i● called the simbole of the Apostles is called the Symbole or Crede of the apostles and the olde authores doo otherwyles calle it the Rule of the fayth or beleffe This is a speche breflye comprehendynge in fewe wordes the summe of those thynges whiche are necessarely to be beleued of all men vnto eternall saluacyon This Symbole or Crede in the olde tyme they that were baptyzed wh●n they were growne in age dyd recyte openly euery man with his owne mouth and ware than called Cathecumeni afore that they were dopped in the holsome water DIS why is it called the rule of fayth or beleffe why the crede is called the rule of fayth MA. Because that accordynge to this styffe and stronge inflexyble squyere or rule of veryte and trouth all the opynyons of men are dyrected and corrected by it also all the erroures swaruyng goynge awrye from the trouthe bothe of hethē paynymes of Iewes and of heretikes are straightened and amended for the trouth of god is single alwayes contay●neth one and vnmoueable whiche sayth Math. xxiiii Heuen and erthe shall passe awaye but my worde shall abyde and not passe awaye DIS But what meaneth this worde Symbole MA. Symbolum is a Greke worde whiche cometh of the verbe Symuallo The sygnificatiōs of this greke worde symbolum whiche signifieth the same that confero doth in the latyne tonge that is to brynge together This worde symbolū The fyrst signifi●ation of this worde symbolū the Grekes haue vsed many maner wayes and in diuerse significations For otherwhiles they do calle symbolum the seale or marke which is emprynted on lettres vessels to th entēt that they shold not be opened of suche as were not mete cōuenyent Sometyme agayn they do calle symbolū a gage whether it were mony or a ryng or ony other thyng that they gaue from thē as many as were appoīted had made ꝓmyse to haue a cōmune bākette or feast together The seconde signification to the assuraunce that euery one of thē shold kepe his appoyntemēt no man withdraw or absente hym self fe The ii● Besydꝭ this also they do calle symbolū the token that is geuen betwen the spouse and the spousesse of theyr consente eche of them to other to the ende that neyther of them maye shrynke from theyr promysse and bargayn And last of all they calle symbolum that token or cognysaunce The .iiii. whiche was
in god fyrste he dothe hate and defie certayne paganes whiche do nat beleue that there is any god at al. And he dothe no lesse hate them which do number and recken vp vnto vs manye and many folde goddes It is all one thyng in effecte to saye that ther are many goddes and to saye that there is no god at all where as in so sayenge they do graunte that there is no god at al. For if there be many goddes than is there some what where in one of them dothe differ from another now if that be any good thyng he is no god that lacketh or wanteth any thynge that good is And if it be an euill thing than can he nat be god that hathe any euill in hym Lykewyse he dothe hate them whiche do thynke nothyng to be at all saue only suche thynges wherof they haue perceiuynge by theyr bodyly senses Anthropomorphite To whome the Anthropomorphites are nat muche vnlyke whiche because they do rede in the scriptures of the eyes the face the mouthe the hādes the harte the arme the w●mbe and the breste of god they dyd wene that god is a bodily thynge made of manes shape manes membres whan in very dede nothynge is forther frome all sensible matter thā god is Iohan also dothe wryte Iohānis .iiii. ☞ That god is a spirite Moreouer he dothe abhor●e the Epicureis which do so graūte one god or mo than one to be The opinion of the Epicures that yet they do deny hym or them to care any whitte what is done in the worlde These that be of this opinion do make god eyther impotente orels folishe in that they do recken hym eyther nat able to gouerne that whiche he hathe created orels so euell wyll that he wyll nat do it orels so folyshe and dronken that he dothe nat retche therfore These thynges if they were sayde agaynste any mortall prynce they were wordes full of blasphemy How moche more than if they be spoken agaynst god But our lorde in the gospell sayeth playnly Math. x● ☞ That there dothe nat so muche as a litle sparowe fall vpon the ground without the wyll of the father And also that all the heares of his discip●es hedes are noumbred * So that nat so moche as one ly●le heare dothe peryshe excepte it be by his wyll And sayncte Peter agreably vnto these wordes of his mayster sayeth i. Petri. ●● ☞ Castynge all your care and thought vpon hym for he hathe care and mynd of you The same doth also detestate the blasphemy of the Ieues whiche do professe one god The erroure of the Iewes but they do deny the sonne the holy ghoste whan in very dede the substaunce or essence of god is so one that it is euen the same and to speake after the maner of logicions eadem numero the same in noumbre The substance of the godhed is al one and the same ī all the iii. persones Bothe in the sonne whiche was begotten of the father and also in the holy ghoste procedynge from them bothe The father cryeth from the cloudes This is my welbeloued sonne Math. xvii et Luce. iii. and the Iewe crieth agaynst it that he hathe no sonne The same father crieth by the mouthe of his prophete Iohel Iohelis ii● I shall poure out of my spirite vpon all fleshe And the Iewe crieth there agaynste god hathe no holy ghoste but is solitary Agreyng vnto this madnes was folyshe and ignorant Noetus Noetus and the wicked heretike Gabelliꝰ Gabellius of whom sprong the heresy secte of them which were called Patrispassia● The patrispassianes whiche dyd deuide the substaūce of god nat into thre ꝑsones but into thre voyces or names The father sayne they created the world the same in the name of the sōne toke vpon hym the nature of man and suffred passion The same agayn onely his name changed and nowe called the holy ghoste cam down vpon the disciples Here wittyngly and gladly I passe ouer the dremes more than blas●hemouse of Basilides Basilides and Mercio Marcio The Origenistes Origenistes also doo come verye nere vnto the impiete and wicked erroure of the Iewes which do make the sonne of god a creature and the holy ghoste the minister of that creature Cosen to these also is Arrius whiche graunted that the father hath a sonne but onely of wyll and lykenes Arrius and not of nature Howe be it he wyll also this similitude to be v●perfighte after suche facion as the shadow is lyke to the bodye because he dothe thynke that betwen the creatoure the creature ther can not be but a slendre an obscure similitude Eunomius But Eunomius doth farre excede the heresy of this sayd Arryus whiche taughte that the sonne is in all poyntes vnlyke to the father because that there is none affinite or lykenesse and agremēte betwen the creatoure and the creature nomore than is betwen a thyng that is infinite a thyng that is finite From this Eunomius Macedonius doth so dyssente Macedonius that yet he doth not assente vnto the doctryne of the church For he graunteth the sonne to be in all poyntes lyke vnto the father but he sayth that the holy ghoste hathe no poynte cōmune with the father the sonne Manicheis Of the Manicheis we haue touched somewhat all redye whiche whils they doo make duo principia id est two principles cōtrarye the one to the other of the one of which visible thynges as they saye were created as ●uyll thyngꝭ of an euyl pncyple of the other inuisible thyngꝭ were created as good thīges of a good pnciple without dowt they do of one god make two goddꝭ the one good the other euel euē likewise as do the heretikes called Gnostici Synerus Synerus whils he maketh tria principia .iii. princyples he maketh as many goddꝭ agayn those that do seperate departe the sonne or the holy ghost from god where as in very dede they do cleue vnto hym by natur they doo go abowte to thruste vnto vs a maimed or an vnperfight god Also ther are some which in stede of god Nature do reckē nature to be the cause of al thyngꝭ whiche yf it be eternall almighty forsoth than it is god yf it be not such one than is it the minister of god a creatur made of god The same thyng is to be iudged as I supose of the second causes how be it ī my iudgemēt it is more agreing to the Christē religiō what so euer either nature or els the secondary causes doo worke The secōdari causes all that to ascribe geue vnto the efficacy mighty workyng of god onely which yf it shold ceasse neither the sōne shold geue lyghte neither the fyre shold be hot but all thyngꝭ shold be sodaynly brought to nought he doth also execrat Selencus which doth
was fyrst created and the same nature as it is after the fall of Adam Adam afore that he dyd synne was a very mā and yet for all that was he free from these incōmodities and miseries wherwith we all are now oppressed Peccatum is takē in diuerse significations in the scripture some of vs more some of vs lesse peccatum id est synne in the scripture is otherwhyles called the payne that is due to synnes and otherwhiles it is taken for the sacrifice wherwith they doo clense theyr synne and offence And therfore it was sayd to the prestes of the olde lawe ☞ Peccata populi cōmedetis id est you shall eate the synnes of the people meanynge the sacrifices which the people sholde offre for theyr synnes and saynte Paule in the seconde epistle the v. chapitoure to the Corīthianes sayth ☞ Eum qui non nouerat peccatū pro nobis peccatū fecit ii Cort. v. Hym that knewe no synne at al hath he made to be synne for vs. Our lorde receyued and tooke on hymselfe not onely the veryte of mānes nature but also the incōmodities miseries whiche don accompanye the nature of man fallen those thynges onely excepted whiche either are not cōueniēt or agreynge to the dignite of that persone which was both god and man orels which do exclude as I sayde before the fullnesse of grace For neither dyd he receiue proclyuyte or redynes to do synne no neither yet so much as power to synne neither dyd he receyue or take vnto hym erroure or ignoraunce And those incōmodytes whiche he dyd receyue take vpon hym he toke them on hym not of the necessite of nature but voluntarely for our sake to make satisfaction for our offences to suffre for that whiche we hadde trespased DIS Why dyd he chaunge the preposition here sayenge de spiritu sancto er Maria virgine MAG The Grekes haue but one and the same preposition ex in both places but the signification of this preposition is diuerse All thynges are ex ipso et per ipsum id est of hym and by hym as of theyr authoure begynner A pece or goblete is made ex auro id est of golde as of the matter or stuffe ex arbore nascitur arbor id est of one tree cometh another tree by propagation of kynde So ex homine gignitur homo id est of a man is gendred a man DIS Why doth it here expresse the holy ghoste onely seyng that the hole trinite dyd worke together this wondrefull misterie M. Because in the gospell of Luke the aungell sayde to the virgine Luce. i. ☞ Spiritus sanctus superueniet in the id est The holy ghoste shall come vpon the. For oftentymes the scripture dothe attribute and geue to eche one of the persones certayne thynges as propre to it The scriptur doth attribut to eche one of the .iii. persōs in the godhed certayne thīges as peculiare or propre whiche for all that are cōmune all thre which for all that are cōmune to all thre as for exaumple whan it geuethe to the father eternite and almightines to the sonne wisdome to the holye ghoste charite and goodnesse and whan the father is sayd to haue made the world by his son and to distribute and geue his giftes by the holy ghoste The symbole therfore and Gabriel in this mistery hath expssed the workynge of the .iii. persones Luce. i. The holy ghost sayth he shal come vpon the aud the power of the hygheste shall ouershadowe the whan thou hearest speake of the highest thou vndestondest and perceyuest the father to be presente as the fountayne authoure as of whome the sone is sente with the holy ghost whan thou hearst these wordes virtus altissimi the vertue or power of the highest thou vnderstōdest the sone whiche onely toke vpon hym mānes na nature For nether the father neither the holy ghoste dyd take our nature and become man For the holy ghost is cōueniently sayd to come vpon or as it is in the latyne suꝑuenire that all the worldly cogitation of man sholde be excluded which whā it hereth the worde or name of cōception or birthe doth īmagine the sede of man receiued in the wombe of a woman or whā it is tolde and warned that a mā was borne of a virgine doth dreame and imagyne also some fowler thynge than these consyderyng and reckenynge what thynges are spred abrode by mennes tales of certayne woman whiche are reported and sayde to haue conceyued chylde by sede of man that hath ben swymmynge in the bathe and of Mares conceyuynge by of the wynde and of fendes or wicked spretes that haue gotten women with chylde I passe ouer here the fayned tales of poetes by whiche the gentiles or hethen peoples were ꝑsuaded broughte in beleffe that of goddes womē of goddesses men were gēdred broughtforth heroes The euāgelist therfore to exclud al these portētuose imaginatiōs doth ꝓfesse that there was here in stede of a husbonde the heuenly father which after a certayne maner dothe begette his sonne agayne he professeth that the begynnynge of this chylde was not of a deuylle or wicked sprite that hadde medled or hadde to do with the mother neither of ony illusion of wicked sprite but of the holye ghoste And that it is euen thus none otherwise Luce. i. the very tenoure and processe of the Euangelystes wordes doth declare openly whā vnto the virgine beynge dismayd indowt at the mention made of conceyuynge and bearynge chylde demaundynge how and after what maner this thinge sholde be done the aungell easynge her mynde of this scrupule or dowte made aunswere in this wise The holy ghoste shall come vpon the. DIS why doth the symbole or Crede expresse the virgines name MAG For the more fayth and credence of the history So lykewise and for the same cōsideration dyd it expresse the name of Iesu Christe so dyd it expresse the name and syrname of the deputy ruler vnder thēperoure Ponce Pilate And for the same purpose dyd Luke here diligently expresse all the names of the moneth of god that sente the aūgell of the aūgell that was sente of embassage of the region of the cite of the husbāde of the tribe or kyndred and of the virgine whan he sayde these wordes Luce. i. ☞ And in the sixte moneth the aungell Gabriell was sent from god vnto a citie of Galile whiche was named Nasareth to a virgine beinge spoused to a mā whose name was Ioseph of the howse of Dauid And the virgins name was Marie Those men do not make narration after this forme and maner whiche do fayne lyes are afrayed to be espied perceyued Esaie inspired with the holy ghoste in olde tyme prophecied in this wise Esaie .vii. ☞ Behold a virgine shal conceyue and bryng forth a sonne and his name shall be called Emanuel whiche by interpretation is as muche to saye as
but the same god Erroneouse opinions concernynge the holy ghoste Certayn men haue sayde that the holy ghoste is not a substauce but that he is noughte els but the concitation or styrrynge of a godly mynde But this motion or styrrynge of our mynde is in dede caused and cometh of the holy spirite but it is not the verye holye goste selfe lykewise as imagination cometh of the soule but yet is it not the very soule selfe For the sayde motion or styrrynge of the mynde in vs is an accidente but that thynge that is god is neyder accidente neyther is it mengled to ony accidente Other some agayne haue sayde that the holye ghoste is a creature added as a minister or seruaunte to the sone whome also they do make a creature And these men do openlye denye the holye ghoste to be god Mat. xxviii But our lorde whan in the forme and maner of baptisyng he dothe ioyne the father the sone and the holy ghoste all .iii. together he dothe not mengle or ioyne a creature with the creator neither an accidente with a substaunce but he hathe expressed thre persones all of one essence But because the erroures cōcernÿng the holy ghost haue not very greatly trobled and encombred or febled the churche of Rome but haue moste specially and chefly raged amonge the Grekes The errores cōcernynge the holy ghoste raged moste in Grece lond● therfor hath the symbole which was made in the councell holden at Constātinople added put to certayne wordes of the holy ghost callynge hym dominū lorde and viuificatorem .i. quickener or maker alyue why the holy ghoste is called lorde In that it doth call hym lorde it doth make hym egal to the sone excludyng the name of a minister or seruaunte for there are not many lordes for the sone is not called lorde of the holy goste but the lorde of all thynges created whiche dominum or lordshippe is cōmune to all .iii. persones Howe be it this greke word Kyrios is not alwaies a worde of dominion or lordshyppe Kyrios but otherwhiles it is a worde betokenynge authorite nowe is the holy ghoste authour of all those scriptures whiche the churche accōp●eth for diuine scriptures and of which the au●horite is inuiolable but because the father hath in the gospel testified w●tnessed of the sone Math. iii. This is my welbeloued sone herken to hym geuynge to hym most soueraigne highe authorite leste ony man shold thynke or suppose that the authorite of the holy spirite were lesse than the authorite of the sone they dyd adde put to Pneuma kyrion .i. the spirite the authour in that it doth cal hym viuificatorē .i. quickener or lyfegeuer Et spūm dominum whythe same ghoste is called quickener it doth agayne make hym egall to the sone to the father for our lorde saith in the gospell of Iohan. As the father doth raise quicken vp and make alyue those that are deade Ioannis .v. so doth the sone also quicken make alyue whō he lyste Leste ony man therfore sholde thynke that the holy ghoste were here excluded they added ●t viuificantē .i. quicknyng or makyng alyue The differēce betwen the speakynge of the sone the speakynge of the holy ghoste the differēce betwen the qckenyng or raisyng vp deade men of the one of the other And lykewise as this difference there is that the sone hathe spoken openly in fleshe the holy ghost hath spokē by the prophetes the same dayly dothe speke secretly by the churche euen so dyd the sone bodily raise vp deade men beynge both the authour also the fyrst frut of resurrection but the holy ghost by pardonynge forgeuyng syn̄es doth spiritually quickē make alyue for synne is the death of the soule frō which to reuoke call agayne ony man is a greatt thyng than it was to raise vp Lazarꝰ beīg .iiii. Ioannis .xi. dayes deade out of his graue saue onely that al thyngꝭ are lyke muche or egally easy to be done of god But because this outward spiri● or breathe is a thynge inconstante waueryng vnstable leste ony man sholde ymagyne ony semblable and lyke thyng of the holy ghoste they called hym Kyrion that is to saye of substanciall and stronge inuiolable authorite Ioan. xv And in the gospell of Iohan our lorde hymselfe calleth hym the spirite of trouthe Thus muche as touchynge difference Quickener Nowe on the other syde because by the sendynge forthe and receyuynge in agayne of breath or ayer by course we do lyue bodyly the holy ghoste very conueniently and accordyngly is called spiritus viuificator .i. a quickenynge spirite whiche doth geue vnto vs causeth that we do lyue as touchynge the better parte of vs that is to witte the soule Agayne because this breathe or wynde seameth a certayne cruel and vnmercifull thyng whan it dothe rayse or styrre vp waues in the see whā it doth cause the earthe to shake or quake and whan it tearethe trees in sondre they do geue to the holy ghoste goodnesse DI. why he is called the holye spirite Why is he called holy MA. For a difference from other spirites for we do rede in the scriptures that Saul had an euyll spirite sente of the lorde and that a lyinge spirite was in the mouthe of the prophetes i. Regum xix and .xvi. We rede also of the spirite vertiginis of the spirit of sothesayers of the spirite of gelosy we Leuit. xx Actuum .xvi. rede these wordes spiritū pessimū .i. the moste euyll spirite the spirite of fornication Actuum xix spiritum nequam .i. the wicked spirite the vnclene spirite the spirite of this worlde the spirite of Satan we rede also the proude and highe spirites of man as in the .xvi. chapitoure of the prouerbes Ante ruinam exaltabitur spiritus .i. Afore his decaye and fall his spirite shall be lyfted vp in pride what meruailouse chāges the holy gost worketh in mānes soule From all these spirites is the holy ghoste separated and disseuered whiche maketh men for proude and highmynded meke and mylde whiche ryddeth and delyuereth men from all companie and felowshippe of Satan whiche inspireth to m●n the very despisynge of this worlde whiche by faythe purifieth and clenseth the hertes of men whiche driuethe awaye all i. Cor. xiii malice and wickednesse whiche geueth true charite that is not misdemyng neyther i. Cor. ii thynket ony euyll which openeth the secreth misteries of the scriptures whiche ledeth into euery verite trouth D. Iohan. xvi Are nat aungelles also called spiritus sancti id est holy spirites MA. Yes verily and so are they in very dede So also the spirite of man is well called holy but there is but one spirite alone whiche is by nature holy and which of it selfe dothe sanctifie and make holy all thynges that are verily holy Spiritus What so euer
●hynge is without body by a generall name is called spiritus a spirite or ghoste Iohan. iiii So is god in the gospell called a spirite whiche name is commune to all the thre persones as concernynge the diuine nature but whan we do ꝓprely and specially meane signifie the thyrde person By what names the holy ghoste is called in the scripture we do call hym the holy spirite or ghoste the spirite of god the spirite of Christe spiritum paracletum .i. the spirite that is cōforter or aduocate and the spirite of trouth And agaynst them whiche denyed that the prophetes made theyr prophecies by the inspiration of the holy ghoste but by a phanaticall or madde and vayne spirite the Synode of Nice or of Constantinople hathe added this particle Qui locutus est per prophetas that is to saye which spake by the prophetes that we sholde vnderstonde haue in knowledge that bothe testamētes were ●aughte and geuen by one and the same spiri●e and that i● was none other spirite whiche spake by the mouthe of the holy prophetes thā euen the very selfe same Luce. iii. whiche descended vpon our lord in the lykenesse of a dowe and in the lykenesse of fyere cam vpon Actuum .ii. the disciples and which euen this daye resteth betwene the brestes of the spousesse the churche A notable question DI. Dyd the holy ghost take vpon hym the body in which he appered so as Christe toke his body vnto hym M. Aunswere No verily for Christ toke an humane body into the vnite of personage It was no. natural body that the holy ghoste appered in but the holy ghoste dyd so take vnto hym a body as aungels do oftentymes appere in the lykenesse of a man Those are but bodyes assumpte and nat naturall bodyes The same synode dyd adde these wordes also ☞ Qui cum patre et filio simul adoratur et conglorificatur .i. Whiche is worshipped and glorified together with the father and the son to thentē●e that they myghte the more exclude the blasphemy of them which do make the holy ghoste inferiour to the son For creatures are glorified honoured but with the father the son nothīg is honoured saue only that that is god Under god and for godes sake holy men also are honoured but with god nothynge is honoured or glorified but that which is all one with hym And for the same purpose also is added this clause ☞ Qui ex patre filioque procedit that is to saye whiche procedethe of the father and the sone For as the sonne is argued and proued to be of the same substaunce with the father because he is begottē of the father euen so is it concluded gathered that the holy ghoste also hath the same nature with them bothe for as muche as he prosedeth cometh forth of them bothe how be it these wordes filioque .i. and of the sone semeth to haue ben added of the Latyne men lykewise as in the symbole of Atanasius for as muche as this particle neither is hadde in the Greke symbole whiche we hadde set afore the newe testamente in our seconde edition of it neither yet in ony symbole whiche is recited in the canon lawe for I suppose it was not than yet receiued namelye in the churches of the easte that the holy ghoste dothe procede from bothe neither was the confession knowlegynge here of exacted of Christen men but it was sufficient to professe that he proc●ded frome the father and that he dyd contynue and abyde in the son as it is expressed in the lyfe of sayncte Andru● the apostle Nat for that they dyd deny hym to procede also from the son but for that they durste nat fastly affyrme this thynge vntyll that our lorde dyd reuele and shewe it also vnto them For nat euery thyng that is sente of any persone dothe forthwith procede frome the substance of hym of whome it is sente A temporall sendynge is one thynge and an eternall procession or comyng forth is another thynge D. Seynge that the fathers with so many wordes dyd study and go about to exclude inequalite why dyd they nat breffly and expressly pronounce that the holy ghoste dyd procede beyng god of god in as moche as they haue diligently expressed of the son that he is god of god lyghte of lyghte very god of very god Deum de deo lu●●en de lumine deum verum de deo vero For so sholde all cauillations vtterly haue ben excluded M. To this I can nat tell what aunswere I sholde make saue only that the meruailouse religion and feare The religion drede that the olde fathers had to speake of diuine thinges whiche the olde fathers hadde to speake of the diu●ne matters and the wicked babling and talkatiuenes of certayne persones was the cause why they had leuer shewe and demonstrate by circumlocution the name of god than to expresse it to then tente that both the godly myndes shold vnderstonde and perceiue the mysterie and wicked persones sholde nat be prouoked to blasphemy But that thynge which that Synode dyd vtter by circūlocution sayncte Athanase doth e●pressly pronounce saying ☞ The father is god the son is god the holy ghoste is god And yet are nat ther thre godes but there is but one god D. Why do they attribute and assigne to the holy ghoste goodnes and charite why goodnes ●harite are attributed to the holy ghoste M. Because vnto goodnes or benignite two thynges do belong that is to wytte for geuenes of synnes geuyng of gyftes vnto charite appertaineth conglutination or ioynyng together Lykewise as the membres and lymmes of our body do cleue together whole by the be●●fight of the spirite euen so the misticall body of Christe is ioyned and knyt together by the holy ghoste Christe in the spirite of god dyd caste out deuils Luc. xi Math. xii And he calleth the holy ghoste the spirite of god But by synne wicked spirites do raigne in a man as our lorde dyd manifestly teache in the parable ☞ of the spirite that was driuen out whiche retourned agayn into his empty house with seuen spirites more wicked than hymselfe L●c. xi Math. xii Therfore the good spirite is conueniently sayde by abolishyng and puttyng away synnes to dryue out euyl spirites Which whan it is done it doth nat suffre the house to be empte or voyde but doth garnishe and adourne it with diuerse gyf●es or graces that the vices driuen out shold haue none entraūce in agayn And therfore Math. xii● that blasphemy whiche is committed agaynst the holy ghoste is sayde in the gospel to be irremissible and suche as can nat be forgeuen For what hope of remi●●ion dothe that man leue to hymselfe whiche dothe prouoke the authour of remission forgeuenes For charite as sayth say nete Peter dothe couer or hyde the multitude of synnes i. Petri. iii● And to that synfull woman of
wherfore let vs laye a parte these symylitud●s and lykenesses And that thynge whiche mānes reason can not attayne vnto nor ꝑceyue let fayth holde stedfastly beleue That thyng which holy scripture doth tea●he whiche Chryste beynge corporallye in ●arth dyd teache whiche hath ben confirmed with so many miracles whiche the spirite of Chryste doth teach by the churche that thynge I saye is to be accompted and taken for more certayne vndowted than is that thynge whiche hath ben proued by a thousand euident and playne demonstrations or whiche thou doste perceyue .vi. C. bodyly senses yf thou haddest so many DIS Is it not lawfull than to inquyere and make serche of the diuine thynges MA. To whome how farre forthe it is lawfull to enserche of godly thynges yes veryly it is lawfull namely to those whiche haue theyr wittes well exercised but it muste be done with drede it must be done sobrelye it muste be done after that they haue sette a sure fundation or grounde warke of faythe fynally as farre forthe and no farder than is graun●ed to man in this mortall ly●e in whiche we do see god by faythe But as i● were in a glasse and in a ryddle and obscure maner For els to speke of the diuin● nature euen so as it is in very dede not the very myndꝭ of aūgelꝭ are able to cōprehend it so that there is place euen there vnto fayth which doth beleue that thynge whiche passeth all reason vnderstondynge of ony creature created Therfore by good ryght the fyrst worde of this philosophie is Credo I beleue Credo DIS Two syllables MA. ye but who so euer speaketh thes● two syllabes from his very herte vnfaynedly he is blessed For no man doth beleue verylye and truly in god who onely doth verelye beleue in god but onely he whiche dothe take for certayne and vndoubted thynges what so euer thynges are writen in the bokes of the holy scrypture hopyng without ony doutfullnes or dystruste all such thyngꝭ as the sayd scriptures do promyse And whiche in this lyfe doth put hymselfe and his and all his goodes vnto the wyll of god forsakynge and renouncynge his owne wyll in all thynges Although a thousande deathes wer threttened vnto hym and thoughe all the hole power of the deuylles wolde go about to do hym myscheffe he is very sure and saffe from all daungere who so euer hath settled hym self faste on this rocke yf this faithe do wante or fayle neither doth baptisme neither ony sacramentes of the churche proufighte ony whitte or auayle nether doth any good workes helpe ony whit● to eternall saluation For Paule doth pro●ounce i● to be synne what so euer is without fayth The cōme●dation of Fayth This faythe coupleth and ioynethe vs to god the father this same dothe associate vs to Christe our hede this same faythe by the spirite of Christe doth make vs to be chosen and taken into the noumbre of the sonnes of god This same faythe dothe graffe vs into the eternall cōpany felowshyppe of Aungells and of all holy sayntes This fayth doth shyne before vs geue vs lyghte in the darknes of this lyfe sheweng what is verily to be eschewed and what to be folowed desyred This fayth doth arme vs and make vs bolde without ony feare inuincible agaynst all the engynes and all the ordinaunce of the world of the deuille This fayth doth mightely and effectuesly coumfor● vs in trybulation aduersite with the hope of the heuenly good or felicite hauyng this saying alwayes in her mouth ☞ yf god be on our syed who can be agaynst vs And that sayenge also The afflictions and tribulatiōs of this worlde are not worthy of the glorye to come which shall be shewed in vs. This fayth doth truly quiete and sette at reste the mynde of man Of this faythe after the mynde of saynte Paule dothe come and vnto it is to be wihted or imputed what so euer thynge at ony tyme hathe ben don strongely vertuosly and temperately of suche as haue ben excellente in holynesse By this fayth we do lyue well beloued of God by this faythe we doo dye cherefullye and with good truste towarde god by this faythe we are created vp vnto blessed immortalyte Agayn of the defaulte wante of fayth what euylles do springe of vnbeleffe springeth superstition sorcerie idolatry and couetousnes cosen to it Ambition Blasphemy heuynes desperation pride feare of death desyre of vengeaunce fynally what so euer vices or synnes doo raygne in the hole worlde DIS Uerily I do here many men oftentymes wyshynge to themselues prosperouse healthe longe lyfe and ryches But I do here very few men that do desyere this so excellentely a good gyfte of god MAG No meruayle thereof for verily there are but fewe that doo knowe what thynge and after what maner is to be desyred and prayed for For this gyfte of faythe it were mete and conuenyente contynually and Luce. x● without ceassyng to knocke at the eares of god that he wolde vouchesaffe to geue vs faythe and to encreace his gyfte in vs euerye daye more and more DISC. yet neuer the lesse the comune sorte and moste parte of men do calle those that are not very wyse Credulos that is to saye redye to geue credence And a certayne wyse man of the Hebrues dothe name those persones leues corde lyghte mynded whiche doo easylye and soon geue crede●ce MAG Fyrste it is no poynte neither of lyghtnes neither of credulite to geue credence to those thynges whiche thynges it hath by so manye argumentes and euydente tokens ben declared to come not from men but from god Paule sayth ☞ that he wolde not geue credence Galat. ● no not euen to an Aūgell yf he dyd teache ony thynge dissonaunt or dysagreynge from the Gospelle of Christe But rather it is a poynte of arrogance and presumptuose folyshenes to dowte of these thynges whiche haue ben taughte and geuen to vs withe soo greatte authorite and therefore saynte Paule writeth Roma i. that the folishe herte of the philosophers was blynded because the lyghte of fathe was absente yf ony man beyng vnlettred wold bable and striue agaynst suche a philosopher as was Arystot●le or Pythagoras or yf there haue ben ony other conynger thā either of thē both whan he dyd dyspute de materia prima of the principles and causes of thynges de infinito or of the largenes the mouynge and the vertue of the heuenly speres and wolde dowte of euery thyng that hymselfe could not by his one witte attayn● vnto and perceyue shold he not be called an arrogāt and madde foole But how much greatter madnes is it there fore not to geue credence to the diuine philosophie because mannes vnderstandynge can not attayne to the perceyuynge of many● thynges And there is by a thousand partes more difference betwen god and man be he neuer so greatly learned thā is betwen the wiseste
And leste any man myghte fynde a cauillation and say that the prophecy is darke and that it myghte be that som other ꝑsone is meante in the sayde prophecie than Christe Actuū viii Sayncte Luke in the .viii. chapiter of the actes telleth how Philippe which beyng warned of the holy ghoste had ioyned hymselfe to the chariote of the gelded man dyd by the information of the same spirite expounde and declare this whole place to him of the passion of Christe And holy and godly men do apply that vnto the passion of Christe whiche is red in the lamentacions of Iheremie Threnorum i. ☞ O all you that do passe by in the waye take hede and se whether there be sorowe or payne lyke vnto my sorowe and payne And in the gospell of Luke Luc. xxiiii our lorde saythe Oughte nat Christe to haue suffered these thynges and so to entre into his glory Also in the fyrste epistle of Peter and the seconde chapiter it is writen thus Whiche whan he suffred dyd nat manace or thretten Agayne in the same place Christ hathe suffred for vs leauyng you an ensample that you shold folowe his steppes But how shall we folowe hym in suffryng paynes and greffes if he hymselfe suffred or felte no payne or grefe at all And saīcte Paule in the .viii. chapiter to the Romanes saythe Yf it so be that we do suffre together with hym that we maye be glorified also with hym Sayncte Paule calleth here suffrynge together with hym nat to haue compassion and to be sory for another mannes euilles or hurtes and greffes but accordynge to the example of hym to suffre and abyde patiently the persecucion of euyll and wicked men And that Christ suffred in soule also euen his owne selfe doth witnesse sayeng Math. xxvi My soule is heuy euen vnto the deathe Adde hereunto that our lorde euen al his lyfe long dyd suffre many thynges for our sakes beynge hungry beynge thursty waxyng wery and faynte beyng reuiled and despigh●uosly handled driuēout taken boūdē bespetted and buffeted To these thīgꝭ and to other lyke may this worde passus est id est he suffred belonge and be referred D. Why dothe the symbole or Crede so diligently expresse the kynde and maner of his deathe M. For the same consideration skyl for which it dyd expresse the name the forename of Pylate that is to witte for the more euidence of the history D. Why wold god redeme the worlde with the deathe of his owne sonne and that with suche maner deathe M. But do thou fyrst make me aunswere to one thynge If any phisicion beyng excellently skylled in his faculty dyd take vnto his cure a man that were sicke of a perilouse and deadly disease one that were nothing skylled in the crafte at all wolde aske hym the question why doest thou cure this man after this maner Sholde he nat seme lewde and very worthily Howe moche more lewde thynge is it than to requyre an accompte or a cause of god wherefore he wolde redeme the worlde after thys manner This thynge thou must surely and stedfastly beleue that nothyng pleaseth god but that that is beste whether it seme so to vs or not seme so DI. The fundation and groundewarke of my faythe standethe faste and vnshaken but yet I suppose it is lawfull religiously with reuerence to enquiere of these thynges MAG ye veryly and lawfull for vs also to make aūswere but with the same religion and reuerence But these thynges doo require a peculyare and propre tr●atise howe be it yet I wyll touche a fewe thynges as it were by the waye Death came into the worlde by an earthely man it was conueniente that the same sholde be takē awaye by an heuenly man By vnlawfull plesure crope in the death and destruction of mankynde by paynes and doloures helthe and saluation was repayred By a virgine disceyued with the inspyration of the serpēte came calamite and miserie by a virgine made greate with chylde by the inspiration of the holy ghoste came agayne welth and felicite And that god beynge offended and dysplesed is reconciled and pacified by the bloud slaughter of brute beastes not onely the lawe of Moses dyd ꝑsuad it but also Abel euē forth with in the very begīnyng of the worlde dyd offre of the fyrst bego●tē of his shepe In so much that the very paynymes also which neuer had knowledg of the very lyuyng god yet were persuaded dyd beleue surely that mēnes offences were clensed and washed awaye with deathe and bloude In certayne coūtryes and amonge certayne people it was a cōmune maner and custome al the yere longe dylygently to kepe and nouryshe a man whiche had wyllyngly and of his owne accorde offred hymselfe to death hym in the meane season they dyd haue in reuerence and wourshyppe as an holy oblation and sacrifice dedicated to god The maner of certayn paynymes And at the yeres ende they dyd caste hym into the see thynkynge iudgyng that by the death of that one man what so euer euylles and misfortunes were towardes the cyte myghte be tourned awaye and kepte from it And Codrus and Curtius the two Decii are hyghly and studiously praysed of authoures Ual. max. lib. v. titul● vi de pietate erga patriam whiche wyllynglye gaue themselues to death for the helthe and saluation of the cōmune weale yt was cōueniente therefore and accordynge that a true and an effectuall hoste and sacrifice sholde be offred vp not for the incolumite and preseruation of one cyte ● or of one nation but for the helthe and saluation of the hole worlde whiche mighte take away the other hostes and sacrifices of all mē beynge eyther superstytyouse or els of smalle efficacie and strengthe For soo greate was the charite of Christe soo greate was his purite that he beynge ones offred vp in sacrifice mighte and shulde suffice to abolishe and take away all the synnes of mankynde althoughe there hadde ben moo worldes than one Leuitici vi For this dowtlesse was that very whole brēte sacrifice which whole dyd brenne and was on fiere with the loue of mankynde Exodi .xii. This was that moste pure bloude of the vnspotted lambe whiche sprincled on the postes putte by the destroynge aungell whi Christe wolde dye on a crosse Nowe the kynde and maner of deathe besydes that it was moste paynfull it was also moste vyle shamefull maner of death that coulde be namely among the Iewes to whome he was execrable and hadde in abomination who so euer dyd hange on a tree It muste nedes be an excedynge greate payne whiche sholde for all men paye bye out the euerlastynge paynes and that was an happye and blessed shame and dishonoure whiche had to all men opened the waye to euerlastynge glory Now is there nothynge more execrable and odible to god than is synne This ignomyny curse he dyd translate vnto hymselfe for
sprinklyng to of filthy erroures This worde wryncle appertayneth to them whiche in dede do beleue ryghte wryncles do signify uyces and sy●nes but yet do lede a lyfe defyled with the filthe of vices and synnes Wryncles do betoken age Suche one verily is that olde man whiche we haue receiued of Adam and whome Paule doth bydde vs ☞ to do Ephe. iiii of and to laye frō vs with all the actes dedes that do belonge to hym that we myghte do on vs the newe man and being renewed in the senses of our mind we myghte folowe the steppes of Christ and walke in newnes of lyfe Roma .vi. Christe is a delicate louer Christe is a delicate and a deynty louer he can nat fynde in his harte to loue the synagoge beynge wrincled with olde ceremonies and with the loue exercise of the olde law Neyther can he suffre or abyde the churches of heretikes beyng disfigured and made foule and euylfauoured with the leprie diuerse spottes of false doctrines and erroures D. If the olde sayng be true that no man lyueth fautles and without synne where is than that spousesse which in the canticles is praysed and is sayde Cantic iiii Tota pulcra ●s amica m●a et macula uon est in t● to be all fayre and beautyfull and without all maner spotte or wemme MAGISTER It is graūted to very fewe men to lyue without the lyghter or smaller vyces or veniall synnes which by rechelesnes and ouersyght doo crepe and stele apon the nature of man But these small faughtes are rather small speckes thā greate spottes and lykewise as they do dayly spring or rise euē so be they dayly washed awaye either with prayer or with dedes of almoyse or with the recōpence a●d satisfaction of some good worke specially and principally with the receiuinge of the body of our lorde but from greate synnes or deadlye crimes they whiche haue professed Christ both owghte and also maye abstayne with the helpe and aide of the spirite of Christe DIS Do not they than whiche are defiled with great synnes or crymes appertayne belonge to holy churche MAG They do belonge and they do not belonge Howe greate Synners are of the church and how not In so muche and as farreforthe as faythe dothe remayne hole in them they do belonge to the churche neither are they kepte frō the cōmuniō and partetakynge of the sacramentes excepte it be soo that for some euidente enormite of crimes they be by the publyke and open iudgemente cut awaye from the company and felowshyp of the churhe what is the churche in his moste propre significacion But because this word Ecclesia id est Churche sayd in his moste propre signification dothe betoken the preuy or secrete society and feloweshyp of them that are predestinated to eternall lyfe of the whiche company a greate parte lyueth alredy with Christe and the other parte that remayneth alyue in this world is called for this entente and purpose that they sholde laboure and endeuoure themselffes vnto most hyghe and ꝑfyghte purite therefore is it wel sayde that the church hath no spot or wrincle How the churche hath neyther spot n● wryncle eyther by the figure synecdoche that is to witte sayinge that of the whole whiche is verified of the parte orels for cause of the marke or ende entended of whiche ende the logicions also do confesse and graunte a denominacion or name to be taken But yet otherwhiles this word or name churche is so dilated and stretched out so farre that it dothe comprehende and contayne as many as haue receiued the sacramente of baptisme whether they do lyue vertuosly or other wyse Sometyme the ministers or iudges of the church are called the churche to whome we oughte to obaye allthoughe they do openly and in syghte lyue an euyll lyfe as longe as it is so that they do nat commaunde or teache suche thynges as are contrary to goddes lawe and may nat stande with his cōmaundementes namely if there shold folowe more trouble and vnquyetnes of the takynge awaye to the commune weale of suche thynges than of the tole ratyng and suffryng of them There are also Psalme .xxv. churches or cōgregacions of wicked men whiche the spouse dothe hate But whosoeuer professeth the holy churche doth execrate and abiure all schismaticall conspiration agaynst the tranquillite of the ecclesiasticall hierarchie lykewyse all conuenticles assemblees of heretikes with whatsoeuer gloriouse title they ●o set them selues forthe to the sale for they are innumerable but the doue is but only one Cantic ii D. In the olde tyme the heretikes also had churches in suche state of thynges whan euery one of them dothe crye ☞ Christe is nat there but here is Christ Marc. xiii by what marke or token maye we discerne and knowe that only doue of Christe from other M. That which doth swarue and go awrye from the holy scriptures is none of Christes D. But heretikes do euen with the very weapons of scripture oppugne and fyghte agaynst the churche M. And no meruayle of it for they do folowe that disceiuynge spirite whiche dyd Mat. iii●● assayle and temple the lorde hymselfe also vnto wickednes with the testimonies of scripture wrested wrenched to a wronge sense but the false interpretation of scriptures is to be cōfuted and disproued and put by with the true interpretation and declaration of the same D. In dede it was no maystry for Christ to do so but it is nat lykewise so easy a thynge for vs wretched men to do the same M. It is nat a parte belongyng and fitte for euery man to fyghte or dispute with heretikes but it appertaineth only to them whiche are instructed and well appoynted with that hole armure whiche the apostle Paule dothe Ephe. vi in certayne places otherwhiles reherce recken vp but to the and to suche other as thou arte it is sufficiente to kepe and holde faste by stedfaste and sure beleffe those thynges whiche the churche hath expresly openly taughte for thynges necessary vnto saluacion D. What shall he do whiche hathe receiued baptisme and hath taken instruction of beleffe in the churche or congregation of heretikes MAG Let hym not chaūge the baptisme which he hath receiued in the name of the father and the sone and the holy ghoste but let hym purge and clense his doctrine let hym withdrawe hymselfe from vnclene cōgregations or assemblees and let hym reconcile hymselfe to the holy churche DI. But that is it whiche I desiered to knowe of you by what tokē or marke the holy church may be discerned knowne from other MAG Howe or by what tokens the true Catholike churche may be knowē from other There are many coniectures gesses by which gatherd together ī one it is easily and son perceiued and espied where the douue is The fyrst is the authorite of the olde Synodes namely approued alowed by the ꝑpetuall