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tell_v but_o let_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o i_o will_v not_o have_v he_o too_o easy_o believe_v bitter_a adversary_n papist_n lest_o he_o forfeit_v the_o little_a relic_n of_o his_o own_o credit_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o wickliff_n be_v against_o enjoin_v the_o lords-prayer_n as_o he_o cit_v yea_o i_o will_v not_o have_v mr._n d._n come_v so_o near_o the_o papist_n yet_o as_o wickliff_n do_v how_o do_v he_o like_o such_o word_n as_o these_o trialog_n li._n 4._o c._n 22._o fol._n 138._o et_fw-la talis_fw-la est_fw-la triplex_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la scilicet_fw-la militans_fw-la dormiens_fw-la &_o triumphans_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dormiens_fw-la est_fw-la praedestinati_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la patientes_fw-la that_o be_v there_o be_v such_o a_o threefold_a church_n the_o militant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n the_o triumphant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n be_v the_o predestinate_a suffering_n in_o purgatory_n and_o lib._n 2._o c._n 10._o see_v what_o he_o say_v of_o angel_n and_o adoration_n of_o they_o and_o c._n 11._o of_o angel_n office_n and_o their_o be_v virtual_o every_o where_o and_o what_o he_o say_v of_o king_n and_o matrimony_n quod_fw-la excedit_fw-la alia_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la etc._n etc._n li._n 4._o c._n 19_o 20._o fol._n 132_o 133._o nor_o will_v i_o say_v that_o omne_fw-la quae_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la de_fw-la necessitate_v eveniunt_fw-la as_o fol._n 120._o a._n or_o that_o deus_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la asinus_fw-la si_fw-la velit_fw-la ut_fw-la fol._n 90._o b._n one_o of_o the_o worst_a thing_n i_o like_v in_o wickliff_n be_v that_o he_o plunge_v himself_o into_o the_o deep_a school-subtlety_n or_o difficulty_n with_o less_o subtlety_n or_o diligence_n than_o the_o case_n require_v and_o than_o schoolman_n use_v and_o indeed_o i_o like_v not_o divers_a of_o his_o conclusion_n as_o lib._n 2._o c._n 14._o fol._n 41._o quod_fw-la deus_fw-la necessitat_fw-la creaturas_fw-la singulas_fw-la activas_fw-la ad_fw-la quemlibet_fw-la actum_fw-la suum_fw-la it_o be_v suppose_v that_o hobbs_n by_o the_o same_o doctrine_n overthrow_v all_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o i_o believe_v that_o his_o doctrine_n there_o fol._n 41._o and_o elsewhere_o for_o merit_n and_o how_o temporale_fw-la sit_fw-la causa_fw-la praedestinationis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la will_v displease_v some_o and_o his_o distinction_n of_o mortal_a and_o venial_a sin_n as_o li._n 3._o c._n 5._o fol._n 52._o and_o that_o he_o make_v final_a impenitence_n the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o that_o none_o can_v know_v what_o sin_n be_v mortal_a in_o we_o and_o what_o not_o and_o cap._n 6._o concedi_fw-la potest_fw-la quod_fw-la multi_fw-la praesciti_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la secundum_fw-la praesentem_fw-la justitiam_fw-la it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o many_o reprobate_n be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o grace_n according_a to_o their_o present_a righteousness_n praesciti_fw-la autem_fw-la nunquam_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la finalis_fw-la perseverantiae_fw-la the_o reprobate_n be_v never_o in_o the_o grace_n of_o final_a perseverance_n so_o that_o he_o hold_v that_o present_a true_a grace_n be_v lose_v by_o some_o as_o austin_n do_v which_o he_o explain_v cap._n 7._o and_o cap._n 8._o again_o he_o be_v at_o his_o omnia_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la necessitate_v absoluta_fw-la review_v what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o conclude_v that_o no_o man_n can_v do_v better_a than_o he_o do_v but_o he_o can_v if_o god_n will_v and_o deny_v not_o sin_n to_o be_v hereby_o necessitate_v etc._n etc._n §_o 12._o pag._n 115._o he_o again_o impenitent_o renew_v his_o slander_n of_o berengarius_fw-la as_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n concern_v who_o say_v usher_n de_fw-fr success_n eccles_n cap._n 7._o p._n 207._o author_n actorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o author_n of_o the_o act_n of_o bruno_n find_v in_o the_o library_n of_o the_o noble_a baron_fw-fr carew_n of_o clopton_n who_o say_v he_o be_v at_o this_o 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of_o canterbury_n answer_v at_o large_a in_o his_o book_n call_v scintillaris_n and_o as_o to_o that_o of_o deny_v infant-baptism_n he_o answer_v by_o say_v he_o do_v thereby_o oppose_v the_o general_a doctrine_n and_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n answ_n 1._o i_o have_v not_o the_o magdeb._n at_o hand_n but_o he_o have_v little_a to_o do_v that_o will_v ask_v illyricus_n and_o gallus_n and_o amsdorfius_n what_o lanfrank_n write_v if_o he_o have_v his_o book_n before_o he_o the_o publisher_n of_o lanfrank_n book_n against_o berengarius_fw-la give_v we_o notice_n of_o no_o other_o trithemius_n de_fw-fr script_n eccles_n know_v of_o no_o other_o but_o this_o which_o be_v in_o bibl._n patr._n tom._n 6._o p._n 190._o and_o i_o have_v look_v over_o every_o line_n of_o it_o such_o labour_n do_v these_o man_n put_v we_o to_o and_o i_o find_v not_o one_o word_n where_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v mention_v by_o lanfrank_n but_o only_o his_o accusation_n of_o ber._n about_o transubstantiation_n he_o never_o once_o charge_v he_o as_o deny_v infant-baptism_n nor_o mention_v it_o see_v reader_n into_o what_o hand_n the_o poor_a seduce_v one_o be_v fall_v §_o 13._o his_o
including_z their_o infant_n but_o as_o part_v of_o the_o analogy_n as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v as_o we_o now_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o christ_n these_o thing_n seem_v to_o i_o a_o certain_a notification_n of_o god_n will_v herein_o which_o in_o the_o foresay_a former_a treatise_n i_o have_v fullier_n open_v and_o improve_v and_o shall_v i_o stand_v to_o answer_v all_o the_o word_n that_o mr._n tomb_n have_v say_v against_o it_o i_o shall_v needless_o tire_v the_o reader_n and_o myself_o and_o lose_v that_o time_n which_o i_o can_v spare_v a_o confutation_n of_o mr._n tombes_n reason_n sect._n 52._o by_o which_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o reckon_v to_o the_o visible_a church-christian_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n nor_o be_v now_o mr._n t._n 1._o i_o argue_v thus_o if_o no_o infant_n be_v part_n of_o the_o visible_a church-christian_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n than_o whatever_o ordinance_n there_o be_v of_o their_o visible_a membership_n before_o must_v needs_o be_v repeal_v but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o consequent_a the_o antecedent_n i_o prove_v thus_o if_o in_o all_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n on_o earth_n and_o the_o apostle_n no_o infant_n be_v a_o part_n or_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n christian_n than_o not_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n but_o etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o minor_a prove_v 1._o all_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o church-christian_a be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o no_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v therefore_o no_o infant_n be_v visible_a member_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n answ_n 1._o to_o the_o major_a they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v after_o christ_n baptism_n be_v institute_v mat._n 28.19_o but_o not_o before_o when_o yet_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v existent_a in_o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n therefore_o christ_n be_v not_o baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n 2._o to_o the_o minor_a if_o his_o bare_a affirmation_n will_v prove_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v what_o need_v he_o write_v his_o book_n mr._n t._n 2._o they_o be_v not_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o church-christian_a who_o be_v not_o of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o no_o infant_n be_v of_o the_o visible_a body_n of_o christ_n prove_v from_o 1_o cor._n 12.13_o all_o that_o be_v of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v make_v to_o drink_v into_o one_o spirit_n in_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o no_o infant_n be_v make_v to_o drink_v into_o one_o spirit_n for_o none_o of_o they_o do_v drink_v that_o cup_n etc._n etc._n answ_n deny_v the_o minor_a i_o answer_v to_o the_o proof_n 1._o to_o the_o major_a 1._o mr._n t._n elsewhere_o plead_v that_o 1_o cor._n 12._o speak_v of_o the_o church-invisible_a only_o and_o yet_o now_o he_o make_v it_o to_o be_v the_o visible_a 2_o all_n be_v oft_o put_v for_o the_o generality_n and_o not_o a_o proper_a universality_n and_o it_o seem_v hard_a to_o prove_v that_o every_o visible_a member_n have_v the_o spirit_n which_o be_v express_o there_o say_v of_o all_o the_o member_n though_o whether_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v include_v mr._n t._n elsewhere_o make_v disputable_a but_o i_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n as_o visible_a and_o that_o all_o the_o member_n ordinary_o have_v spiritus_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la be_v in_o judgement_n of_o charity_n say_v to_o have_v the_o spirit_n 3._o but_o if_o sacrament_n be_v indeed_o here_o include_v as_o he_o assert_v than_o baptism_n be_v first_o include_v and_o so_o if_o we_o prove_v infant_n church-member_n this_o text_n will_v prove_v they_o to_o be_v baptizable_a according_a to_o mr._n t._n remember_v that_o 4._o but_o that_o mr._n t.'s_n exposition_n be_v not_o true_a that_o every_o member_n drink_v of_o the_o cup_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n he_o may_v be_v turn_v about_o to_o confess_v himself_o for_o 1._o doubtless_o he_o think_v that_o this_o chapter_n speak_v of_o the_o church_n not_o 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church-suspension_a so_o natural-suspension_a of_o further_a privilege_n nullifi_v not_o membership_n mr._n t._n 2._o from_o 1_o cor._n 10.17_o all_o that_o be_v one_o body_n and_o one_o bread_n do_v partake_v of_o that_o one_o bread_n which_o be_v break_v but_o no_o infant_n do_v partake_v answ_n 1._o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n do_v not_o partake_v of_o it_o before_o the_o institution_n 2._o no_o baptize_v person_n partake_v of_o it_o in_o the_o interspace_n between_o the_o two_o sacrament_n which_o with_o some_o be_v a_o long_a time_n 3._o a_o baptize_v person_n may_v die_v before_o he_o drink_v that_o cup_n or_o may_v live_v where_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_o to_o be_v have_v 4._o church-member_n may_v be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n therefore_o the_o text_n speak_v not_o of_o every_o member_n but_o of_o the_o ordinary_a communion_n of_o capable_a person_n mr._n t._n eph._n 4.5_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v one_o body_n and_o have_v one_o lord_n and_o one_o faith_n but_o no_o infant_n have_v one_o faith_n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o generality_n of_o the_o noble_a and_o capable_a member_n denominate_v the_o church_n the_o apostle_n say_v not_o that_o every_o member_n have_v all_o these_o but_o there_o be_v one_o lord_n one_o faith_n etc._n etc._n christ_n have_v not_o one_o lord_n be_v lord_n himself_o as_o here_o understand_v and_o yet_o be_v a_o member_n christ_n in_o the_o womb_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v actual_o hâ—d_v that_o one_o faith_n and_o he_o be_v long_o the_o chief_a member_n before_o he_o be_v baptize_v and_o whether_o ever_o the_o twelve_o apostle_n be_v be_v uncertain_a 2._o the_o text_n seem_v chief_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n call_v objective_a faith_n one_o creed_n and_o this_o the_o church_n may_v have_v and_o yet_o not_o each_o member_n actual_o believe_v for_o 3._o the_o parent_n in_o faith_n devote_v himself_o and_o his_o infant_n to_o god_n his_o faith_n and_o consent_n be_v reputative_o the_o child_n who_o be_v use_v as_o a_o member_n of_o the_o parent_n mr._n t._n 3._o they_o be_v no_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o be_v leave_v out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o the_o believer_n the_o multitude_n of_o the_o disciple_n etc._n etc._n but_o infant_n be_v leave_v out_o of_o the_o number_n in_o all_o place_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n ergo_fw-la answ_n 1._o many_o text_n speak_v of_o all_o that_o be_v present_a only_o and_o many_o speak_v only_o of_o such_o as_o the_o present_a matter_n do_v concern_v and_o it_o be_v most_o usual_a to_o denominate_v all_o or_o the_o body_n from_o the_o noble_a and_o great_a part_n if_o you_o be_v to_o describe_v a_o kingdom_n will_v you_o not_o say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o civil_a society_n of_o rational_a creature_n or_o man_n consent_v to_o the_o mutual_a relation_n of_o king_n and_o subject_n and_o the_o duty_n of_o each_o for_o the_o common_a welfare_n you_o will_v so_o define_v 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the_o baptism_n of_o water_n but_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o receive_v it_o when_o the_o opportunity_n of_o circumstance_n be_v offer_v and_o see_v whatever_o come_v to_o pass_v do_v come_v to_o pass_v of_o necessity_n it_o maybe_o say_v that_o such_o a_o one_o can_v be_v save_v without_o such_o baptism_n and_o to_o the_o question_n of_o a_o old_a woman_n baptise_v child_n in_o necessity_n he_o say_v credimus_fw-la tamen_fw-la quod_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la vetula_fw-la vel_fw-la abjecta_fw-la persona_fw-la rite_n lavante_fw-la hominem_fw-la cum_fw-la verbis_fw-la sacramentalibus_fw-la baptismum_fw-la flaminis_fw-la deus_fw-la complete_a the_o reader_n must_v pardon_v the_o latin_a to_o the_o author_n or_o printer_n which_o may_v thus_o be_v english_v but_o we_o believe_v that_o what_o old_a woman_n soever_o or_o abject_a person_n right_o wash_v one_o with_o the_o sacramental_a word_n god_n fulfil_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n it_o seem_v that_o whereas_o tertullian_n mr._n d.'s_n first_o witness_n be_v for_o layman_n baptise_v in_o case_n of_o necessity_n but_o not_o for_o woman_n that_o wickliff_n be_v for_o woman_n also_o and_o to_o the_o next_o question_n whether_o infant_n unbaptise_v when_o baptism_n can_v not_o be_v have_v be_v all_o damn_a he_o answer_v et_fw-la per_fw-la haec_fw-la respondeo_fw-la ad_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v and_o by_o this_o i_o answer_v your_o three_o objection_n grant_v that_o god_n if_o he_o will_v may_v damn_v such_o a_o infant_n and_o do_v he_o no_o wrong_n and_o if_o he_o will_v he_o can_v save_v he_o and_o i_o dare_v not_o define_v either_o part_n nor_o be_o i_o careful_a about_o reputation_n or_o get_v evidence_n in_o the_o case_n but_o as_o a_o dumb_a man_n be_o silent_a humble_o confese_v my_o ignorance_n use_v conditional_a word_n will_n because_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o clear_a to_o i_o whether_o such_o a_o infant_n shall_v be_v save_v or_o damn_v but_o i_o know_v that_o whatever_o god_n do_v in_o it_o will_v 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of_o faith_n that_o nothing_o befall_v a_o man_n after_o the_o first_o grace_n unless_o some_o part_n of_o mankind_n either_o merit_n or_o demerit_n that_o this_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v in_o the_o next_o thirteen_o chapter_n he_o proceed_v to_o answer_v the_o question_n quomodo_fw-la animae_fw-la talium_fw-la infantium_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la actuali_fw-la decedentium_fw-la punientur_fw-la have_v before_o speak_v of_o infant_n die_v unbaptise_v unavoidable_o that_o be_v how_o the_o soul_n of_o such_o infant_n shall_v be_v punish_v whether_o all_o equal_o or_o unequal_o and_o whether_o only_o with_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n or_o also_o of_o sense_n and_o he_o conclude_v contrary_a to_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o papist_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v both_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n and_o sense_n and_o note_v that_o that_o necesse_fw-la est_fw-la peccata_fw-la originalia_fw-la hominum_fw-la esse_fw-la inaequalia_fw-la sicut_fw-la decedentes_fw-la in_o 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