Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	baptism_n	baptize_v	holy_a	6,403	5	6.2103	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A96140	Mr. Edwards pen no slander: or, The Gangræna once more searched: which being found very full of corrupt matter, that part of his foul mouth is seringed, and washed with a moderate answer, given by Tho: Web, to that part of his book, wherein Mr. Edwards chargeth him for delivering severall Antinomian doctrines. In which answer is proved, that many things wherewith Mr. Edwards chargeth him, is false. Also, that Mr. Edwards charging any in such a nature is contrary to rule, and against all examples in Scripture, and tends unto division in these distracting times. / By Thomas Webbe.	Webbe, Thomas.	1646 (1646)	Wing W1206; Thomason E337_34; ESTC R200835	14,930	16

can even the worlds reading and spelling out of Christ in our bookes when it may not in his Mr. Edwards in his booke writes that I have been in Essex Suffolk and Kent where I have vented Antinomian doctrines its true I have been in these three Counties but for venting Antinomian doctrins that I am ignorant of but I humbly desire Mr. Edwards that if he writes againe he would be willing to explaine what he meanes by Antinomianisme and where my doctrine was such for Suffolk he names not the particulars of my doctrine it may be it s because he knowes them not or if he doth know it s because it was against covetuousnesse but it seems by the story that what doctrine soever it were it s called by him Antinomianisme well but if to set up Christ and to beat downe covetuousnesse be so I did do it and I hope God will still carry me forth so to do and the Scripture I there spake from was Act. 5.11 and if there be man or woman that can charge me with delivering Antinomians doctrins I in a brotherly manner desire to be informed And he saith further that I would have taught in publike if the Minister had not hindred me surely his informer is fe'd well which makes him to informe him any thing it s no matter whether they be true or false any thing to please children for while I was in Suffolk which was not a week I taught foure tymes twice on the Lords day and twice the Wednesday following which was the fast day and not once in private the Townes name is Stocke neere Clare in Suffolk nor was I hindred by any Minister as he writes nor was there any one Minister in the Countie that was moved to let me teach and the Towne wherein I was was then destitute of a Minister For Essex he saith I taught in one Mr. Sparrowes house of Colchester against all baptism truly severall times I did speak in the said house and being occasioned through the dispute of some honest people that are under baptism touching the same and I being engaged in the same dispute did deliver my selfe as followeth First viz. that the Scripture puts a difference between the baptism of John and the baptism of Christ Johns being of water and Christs being of the Holy Ghost according as is witnessed by these insuing Scriptures Math 3.11 Secondly that Johns baptism which was water did end at the comming of Christ as John 3.30 and that because it manifested a Christ to come unto Jsrael who being already come is ceased Iohn 1.31 which I having premised I gave out my thoughts that there must be a second institution of baptism with water or else it is not of that weight as many of our friends take it to be which institution I read not of in any part of the New Testament I meane that CHRIST in his person did not institute the same as I reade of And in Matth. Chapt. the 28. where my friends conceive that CHRIST did institute that Ordinance of water which they practice I conceive it may as well be applied to any other Baptisme as that of the holy Ghost as to water the Text not naming of water yet notwithstanding I did not then nor do I now deny the practice of it onely as I said then so I say now by way of exhortation desiring those my friends not to make such a division about it knowing that neither circumcision nor uncircumcision availeth any thing save onely the Baptisme of the holy Spirit which is the New-creature intreating of them to look more after the said baptisme and then would our divisions about the former cease and we being baptized by one Spirit into one Body should sweetly live in and to one another as members of one body Now those my friends that were then present could not give me satisfaction in proving Baptisme with water to be instituted by Christ or in any part of the New Testament was given forth by him while personally upon earth to his Apostles And Paul saith He was not sent to Baptize but to preach 1 Cor. 1.17 But if Mr. Edwards will be pleased to appear in the proving of it I shall much praise God for it and shall acknowledge him to be my Father in Christ A second thing which Mr. Edwards writes I delivered in the said house is That a Saint may say he is equall with Christ and count it no robbery I could wish with all my heart that he would if it had been an errour have done God so much service as to have disproved it I was speaking out of Joh. 7.22 the words are there The glory which thou gavest me I have given them that they may be one even as thou Father and I am one From these words after some time spent in shewing what this glory was in the generall I came to the particulars or drawing of it out in branches and the first was Gods love the same unto the Saints as unto Christ which I proved by many reasons which now I shall not name but there being amongst many Scriptures one very pertinent to the thing I named it which is Vers 23. Thou hast loved them as thou hast loved me Christ sets forth the Fathers love to the Saints by the Fathers love to him as thou hast loved me I opened this word as wherein lieth much which is not now my businesse onely I humbly intreat Mr. Edwards that if he judge it to be an errour that he would prove it so to be for he leaving a thing neither proving nor yet disproving of it to be a truth makes me with many think that he believes it to be a truth but would not have the Saints to know of it or else because the world not being to judge of such things but is ready to speak evill of dignities even of what they know not he presents it them that so I might become the more odious and vile in their sight and truly if it be an errour as I desire him to prove I shall leave it reioycing in the Lord for his love in taking me off from it But blame me not if I still remain in the same judgement having as I conceive the Word of God to be my rule provided I meet with a fair candid interpretation of my words as Rom. 8. Eph. 1.3 1 Joh. 4.17 But if God by any shall give me forth an understanding of these Scriptures which is contrary to what I bring them for I am one who am not willing to withstand truth but desire to be overcome by truth in every thing though it come but from the hands of the poorest creature under heaven whose Scholler I am ready to be when ever God shall teach me any thing by him A third thing which Mr. Edwards charges me withall is how that I being talking with an honest Christian in Colchester should use this expression That it was not lawfull to say God the Father God the