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A45828
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A peaceable enquiry into that novel controversie about reordination With certain close, but candid animadversions upon an ingenious tract for the lawfulness of reordination; written by the learned and Reverend Mr. J. Humphrey. By R.I.
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have_v command_v he_o so_o to_o have_v do_v but_o alas_o this_o be_v far_o from_o our_o state_n for_o if_o we_o come_v for_o reordination_n we_o must_v use_v such_o form_n as_o be_v altogether_o accommodate_v to_o a_o end_n which_o by_o we_o must_v not_o at_o all_o be_v intend_v and_o altogether_o unaccommodated_a to_o the_o end_n chief_o yea_o only_o by_o unprosecute_v object_n 8._o draw_v from_o a_o suppose_a rebaptisation_n 88_o p._n 85_o 86_o 87_o 88_o mr._n h._n let_v we_o turn_v then_o to_o act_n 19_o and_o we_o shall_v find_v there_o certain_a disciple_n at_o ephesus_n who_o be_v baptize_v into_o john_n baptism_n it_o be_v like_o that_o apoâ—los_n live_n there_o a_o diligent_a teacher_n and_o know_v only_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n act_v 18.24.25_o have_v baptize_v they_o now_o we_o be_v to_o know_v that_o this_o baptism_n have_v the_o same_o author_n mat._n 2.25_o matter_n john_n 1.26_o form_n john_n 1.32_o 33_o 34._o end_n luke_n 3_o 3._o and_o consign_v the_o same_o gospel_n mark_v 1.3_o 4._o be_v but_o one_o with_o christ_n baptism_n ephes_n 4.5_o paul_n therefore_o catechise_n they_o therein_o thus_o instruct_v they_o john_n very_o baptize_v with_o the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n lay_v unto_o the_o people_n that_o they_o shall_v believe_v on_o he_o which_o shall_v come_v after_o he_o that_o be_v say_v he_o on_o christ_n jesus_n it_o follow_v when_o they_o hear_v this_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n now_o the_o question_n arise_v here_o who_o be_v mean_v by_o they_o in_o the_o text_n the_o people_n unto_o who_o john_n speak_v or_o the_o person_n the_o twelve_o man_n to_o who_o paul_n speak_v not_o the_o first_o certain_o then_o must_v these_o word_n that_o be_v on_o christ_n jesus_n be_v john_n interpretation_n when_o it_o be_v plain_a he_o do_v not_o know_v christ_n by_o his_o name_n when_o he_o baptize_v until_o christ_n come_v to_o he_o john_n 1.30_o 31._o who_o be_v they_o then_o why_o the_o last_o no_o doubt_n for_o john_n and_o his_o disciple_n do_v baptize_v into_o one_o which_o shall_v come_v as_o it_o be_v say_v here_o but_o it_o be_v the_o apostle_n and_o christ_n disciple_n that_o baptize_v express_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n jesus_n etc._n etc._n resol_n though_o i_o observe_v a_o great_a variety_n of_o opinion_n about_o the_o interpretation_n of_o this_o text_n than_o almost_o of_o any_o other_o through_o the_o whole_a bible_n yet_o this_o i_o observe_v also_o that_o they_o all_o agree_v in_o this_o whatever_o else_o they_o differ_v in_o to_o explode_v a_o repetition_n of_o the_o same_o valid_a baptism_n which_o be_v the_o only_a pillar_n of_o our_o reverend_a brother_n argument_n yea_o moreover_o it_o be_v very_o observable_a that_o the_o very_a reason_n of_o this_o so_o great_a diversity_n be_v their_o detestation_n of_o rebaptisation_n i_o find_v these_o ten_o several_a interpretation_n none_o of_o which_o allow_v a_o repetition_n of_o every_o way_n the_o same_o baptism_n which_o therefore_o can_v support_v the_o repetition_n of_o the_o same_o ordination_n 1._o some_o think_v in_o that_o text_n baptism_n be_v always_o to_o be_v take_v metaphorical_o for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n that_o the_o sense_n may_v run_v thus_o those_o twelve_o disciple_n which_o be_v only_o instruct_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o john_n be_v afterward_o instruct_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n 2._o other_o say_v that_o baptism_n may_v be_v take_v always_o metaphorical_o in_o that_o text_n but_o in_o the_o first_o place_n for_o the_o doctrine_n in_o the_o second_o for_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n bestow_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n 3._o other_o suppose_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n be_v to_o be_v take_v metaphorical_o for_o the_o doctrine_n and_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n proper_o and_o so_o that_o these_o twelve_o be_v but_o once_o baptize_v and_o that_o not_o by_o john_n but_o paul_n 4._o o_o she_o take_v the_o baptism_n of_o john_n proper_o and_o the_o baptism_n of_o paul_n metaphorical_o for_o the_o doctrine_n and_o so_o make_v but_o one_o baptism_n and_o that_o by_o john_n not_o by_o paul_n 5._o some_o take_v the_o baptism_n of_o john_n proper_o and_o the_o baptism_n of_o paul_n improper_o for_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 6._o other_o take_v baptism_n proper_o in_o both_o but_o yet_o observe_v that_o both_o these_o expression_n relate_v to_o john_n baptism_n and_o of_o this_o opinion_n be_v many_o of_o our_o modern_n 7._o other_o take_v baptism_n proper_o in_o both_o and_o acknowledge_v a_o rebaptisation_n but_o it_o be_v because_o those_o disciple_n want_v the_o true_a baptism_n of_o john_n and_o have_v only_o a_o corrupt_a administration_n from_o some_o of_o john_n disciple_n want_v the_o true_a form_n be_v not_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 8._o other_o acknowledge_v a_o rebaptisation_n but_o it_o be_v through_o this_o accidental_a corruption_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o john_n baptism_n the_o baptize_v being_n not_o instruct_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n and_o of_o christ_n baptism_n with_o the_o spirit_n 9_o other_o acknowledge_v a_o rebaptisation_n but_o erroneous_o administer_v by_o some_o of_o paul_n disciple_n before_o paul_n come_v to_o they_o 10._o that_o paul_n do_v indeed_o rebaptize_v who_o john_n have_v baptize_v but_o it_o be_v because_o christ_n baptism_n and_o john_n be_v not_o the_o same_o and_o this_o way_n go_v the_o council_n at_o trent_n bellarmine_n estius_fw-la à _fw-la lap._n and_o i_o think_v i_o may_v safe_o say_v the_o romanist_n general_o and_o if_o i_o shall_v add_v the_o ancient_n also_o i_o shall_v not_o be_v much_o overtask_v to_o prove_v it_o and_o this_o way_n diodat_n himself_o seem_v to_o go_v and_o now_o i_o infer_v if_o any_o of_o these_o interpretation_n may_v be_v allow_v or_o if_o the_o uniform_a consent_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n may_v be_v admit_v then_o be_v our_o reverend_a brother_n mistake_v in_o his_o interpretation_n and_o oh_o how_o strong_a and_o subtle_a be_v that_o temptation_n that_o trapane_v so_o learned_a a_o person_n into_o the_o justification_n of_o one_o novelty_n by_o another_o reordination_n by_o rebaptisation_n and_o what_o cause_n have_v i_o and_o such_o as_o i_o to_o pour_v out_o our_o soul_n in_o that_o petition_n lead_v we_o not_o into_o temptation_n but_o hold_v i_o must_v not_o sit_v down_o as_o yet_o there_o be_v another_o job_n of_o work_n behind_o and_o that_o be_v to_o see_v asunder_o the_o argument_n for_o this_o singular_a opinion_n and_o which_o be_v more_o difficult_a to_o resolve_v among_o all_o these_o divine_n who_o handsaw_n to_o use_v to_o use_v they_o all_o at_o once_o be_v needless_a if_o not_o impossible_a to_o reject_v any_o out_o of_o our_o shop_n be_v prodigal_a if_o not_o scandalous_a and_o therefore_o i_o will_v only_o make_v use_n of_o one_o and_o let_v the_o rest_n lie_v by_o until_o i_o have_v more_o need_n of_o they_o i_o shall_v not_o now_o deny_v christ_n baptism_n and_o john_n to_o be_v the_o same_o but_o shall_v rather_o conject_v ure_n that_o john_n baptism_n be_v never_o iterate_v and_o therefore_o i_o must_v proceed_v to_o answer_v the_o argument_n for_o the_o contrary_n 1._o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o whole_a history_n act_n 19_o be_v write_v by_o luke_n as_o the_o historian_n 2._o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o question_n ver_fw-la 2._o have_v you_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n since_o you_o believe_v which_o probable_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o extraordinary_a gift_n as_o calvin_n beza_n annot._n etc._n etc._n because_o it_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v since_o they_o believe_v and_o the_o ordinary_a gift_n before_o or_o in_o believe_v be_v from_o paul_n 3._o it_o be_v certain_a also_o that_o that_o answer_v we_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o hear_v whether_o there_o be_v a_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v probable_o to_o be_v understand_v suitable_o to_o the_o question_n of_o the_o extraordinary_a gift_n for_o john_n do_v tell_v his_o disciple_n of_o the_o person_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o answer_n of_o john_n disciple_n 4._o it_o be_v certain_a also_o that_o that_o question_n be_v paul_n unto_o what_o then_o be_v you_o baptize_v 5._o and_o the_o answer_n follow_v be_v the_o disciple_n unto_o john_n baptism_n 6._o it_o be_v certain_a also_o that_o the_o explanatory_a reply_n ver_fw-la 4._o be_v from_o paul_n 7._o neither_o do_v i_o see_v any_o evidence_n necessitate_v a_o denial_n of_o the_o next_o word_n when_o they_o hear_v this_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n to_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o people_n that_o hear_v john_n say_v that_o he_o baptize_v with_o the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n and_o that_o they_o shall_v believe_v in_o he_o that_o shall_v
distinction_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d will_v utter_o subvert_v the_o other_o interpretation_n yet_o there_o be_v three_o several_a answer_n each_o of_o which_o will_v take_v off_o the_o pretence_n of_o timothy_n re-ordination_a 1._o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o several_a learned_a divine_n do_v take_v that_o act_n in_o 1_o tim._n 4.14_o and_o that_o in_o 2_o tim._n 1.6_o to_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o ordination_n some_o say_v with_o the_o lay_n on_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n may_v be_v mean_v paul_n hand_n so_o bishop_n bilson_n mr._n mason_n calvin_n gelaspy_n 252._o de_fw-fr gubern_n eccâ—â—_n 252._o and_o other_o other_o think_v that_o paul_n hand_n be_v not_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbyteric_a yet_o that_o both_o paul_n hand_n and_o the_o presbyter_n be_v lay_v on_o together_o 101._o de_fw-fr min._n angâ—_n p_o 44_o 45._o in_o 1_o tim._n 4._o misc_n qu._n p._n 101._o and_o so_o both_o concur_v in_o one_o ordination_n so_o than_o if_o either_o of_o these_o be_v true_a as_o i_o confess_v i_o dare_v make_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n of_o neither_o than_o there_o be_v no_o ordination_n to_o be_v find_v here_o 2._o it_o be_v more_o probable_a that_o if_o these_o text_n must_v be_v understand_v of_o two_o ordination_n that_o they_o be_v to_o two_o office_n the_o first_o to_o a_o inferior_a the_o second_o to_o a_o superior_a office_n and_o perchance_o first_o to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n and_o afterward_o to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o evangelist_n gelaspy_n seem_v to_o lean_v this_o way_n 103._o misc_n qu._n p._n 90_o 103._o it_o be_v observable_a indeed_o that_o in_o the_o first_o epistle_n paul_n never_o give_v timothy_n any_o high_a title_n than_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n which_o now_o at_o last_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v use_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n promiscuous_o but_o in_o the_o second_o epistle_n wherein_o paul_n mention_n the_o lay_v on_o of_o his_o own_o hand_n he_o style_v he_o a_o evangelist_n 2_o tim._n 4.5_o and_o either_o here_o must_v be_v a_o twofold_a ordination_n or_o else_o timothy_n be_v ordain_v per_fw-la saltum_fw-la or_o else_o his_o second_o ordination_n be_v not_o record_v 3._o some_o think_v and_o i_o think_v it_o be_v most_o probable_a that_o 2_o tim._n 2.1.6_o be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o ordination_n at_o all_o but_o of_o some_o special_a gift_n confer_v by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o paul_n hand_n 1._o as_o mr._n baxter_n say_v it_o may_v be_v imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o confirination_n or_o for_o the_o first_o give_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n after_o baptism_n ordinary_o use_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o be_v there_o speak_v of_o which_o also_o seem_v probable_a by_o the_o apostle_n annex_v it_o to_o timothy_n faith_n in_o which_o he_o succeed_v his_o mother_n and_o grandmother_n and_o the_o follow_a effect_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o power_n and_o love_n and_o of_o a_o sound_a mind_n which_o be_v the_o fruit_n of_o confirm_a grace_n admonish_v he_o that_o he_o be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o the_o testimony_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o be_v also_o the_o fruit_n of_o confirmation_n 2._o that_o very_a expression_n stir_v up_o the_o gift_n do_v seem_v to_o imply_v that_o gift_n to_o be_v gratia_fw-la gratum_fw-la faciens_fw-la for_o it_o seem_v too_o improper_a to_o say_v stir_v up_o thy_o office_n 3._o the_o apostle_n do_v somewhat_o critical_o use_v a_o divers_a particle_n in_o these_o two_o text_n in_o the_o former_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o latter_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d now_o the_o question_n be_v why_o shall_v paul_n use_v different_a word_n if_o these_o be_v not_o different_a act_n i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o some_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v to_o set_v forth_o paul_n act_n in_o ordination_n because_o he_o be_v the_o ordainer_n and_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o set_v forth_o the_o presbyter_n act_n because_o they_o be_v only_a assistant_n in_o ordination_n but_o 1._o this_o crotchet_n though_o ingenious_a yet_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v new_a 2._o altogether_o without_o proof_n 3._o and_o it_o seem_v to_o contradict_v most_o of_o our_o protestant_a divine_n even_o episcopal_a as_o well_o as_o other_o that_o acknowledge_v a_o power_n of_o ordination_n in_o presbyter_n and_o that_o their_o ordination_n without_o a_o diocesan_n be_v valid_a which_o they_o will_v not_o do_v have_v the_o presbytery_n no_o power_n of_o ordination_n at_o all_o 4._o it_o suppose_v ordination_n in_o this_o text_n which_o supposition_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o two_o first_o probability_n that_o this_o gift_n be_v gratia_fw-la gratum_fw-la faciens_fw-la and_o not_o gratia_fw-la gratis_o data_fw-la 5._o in_o act_n 13._o there_o be_v the_o same_o word_n use_v to_o signify_v the_o act_n of_o the_o doctor_n as_o be_v use_v to_o signify_v the_o act_n of_o the_o prophet_n 6._o this_o will_v overthrow_v their_o new_a interpretation_n of_o 1_o tim._n 4.14_o which_o be_v to_o put_v presbyterium_fw-la for_o the_o office_n with_o a_o parenthesis_n in_o the_o text_n to_o help_v the_o same_o and_o so_o make_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o signify_v paul_n act_n 7._o it_o will_v overthrow_v that_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_n so_o much_o magnify_v for_o understanding_n by_o a_o college_n of_o presbyter_n a_o college_n of_o dâ—ocesans_n for_o then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v signify_v their_o act_n 8._o if_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v the_o presbyter_n consent_v only_o then_o why_o shall_v the_o presbyter_n lay_v on_o hand_n any_o more_o than_o the_o people_n for_o the_o people_n be_v ancient_o to_o consent_v and_o to_o assist_v by_o their_o concurrence_n in_o prayer_n 9_o if_o presbyter_n be_v ordainer_n with_o the_o bishop_n as_o some_o confess_v then_o be_v it_o not_o against_o the_o nature_n of_o ordination_n for_o have_v not_o all_o ordainer_n the_o same_o causality_n 10._o but_o further_o to_o speak_v the_o truth_n whether_o it_o make_v for_o i_o or_o against_o i_o these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v often_o use_v promiscuous_o instance_n be_v not_o rare_a of_o use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o per_fw-la and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o cum_fw-la and_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o whole_a church_n till_o of_o late_a for_o aught_o i_o yet_o see_v have_v so_o understand_v the_o same_o in_o these_o text_n but_o to_o leave_v it_o now_o to_o the_o impartial_a reader_n to_o judge_v whether_o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d difference_n any_o thing_n it_o be_v not_o more_o probable_a that_o they_o difference_n the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o a_o ordination_n than_o a_o ordination_n from_o a_o ordination_n but_o let_v it_o go_v how_o it_o will_v with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o it_o be_v more_o probable_a either_o that_o paul_n ordain_v â—ot_n timothy_n at_o all_o or_o that_o he_o join_v with_o the_o presbyter_n in_o their_o ordination_n or_o that_o the_o presbyter_n ordain_v timothy_n to_o one_o office_n and_o paul_n afterward_o to_o another_o a_o high_a then_o that_o paul_n ordain_v he_o to_o the_o same_o office_n to_o which_o he_o be_v ordain_v before_o all_o that_o i_o observe_v further_o in_o mr._n h._n tract_n be_v the_o authority_n of_o chemnitius_n and_o baldwin_n resol_n 1_o methinks_v it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o reordination_n be_v more_o credit_v by_o these_o two_o authority_n or_o more_o discredit_v in_o that_o they_o be_v but_o two_o and_o two_o not_o of_o the_o ancient_n neither_o and_o though_o it_o be_v to_o be_v acknowledge_v that_o these_o two_o be_v learned_a and_o reverend_a lutheran_n divine_v yet_o no_o doubt_n there_o may_v be_v two_o score_n easy_o rally_v against_o they_o and_o it_o may_v be_v as_o learned_a as_o they_o 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