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A95098 A true narrative of the examination, tryall, and sufferings of James Nayler in the cities of London and Westminster, and his deportment under them. With the copies of sundry petitions and other papers, delivered by severall persons to the Lord Protector, the Parliament, and many particular Members thereof, in his behalf. With divers remarkable passages (relating thereto) before his journey to Bristol, whither he is now gone towards the filling up the measure of his sufferings. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1657 (1657) Wing T2789; Thomason E899_6; ESTC R204821 56,615 71

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thing is fallen out to try you whether or no you act against Christ where he is manifest in his Members for it is said Christ in you and if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin and if Christ be within may not he speak in Righteousness and be confessed there Now if Jesus Christ be not in you mark Jesus Christ be not in you ye are reprobates and if Christ be within must he not speak mark Iesus Christ the Emanuel the same is it offence for Christ to speak and Jesus to speak where he is within Now examine your selves know not you your selves how that Jesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates And if Jesus Christ be in you must he not speak in you Is it not he that must speak for the natural man receives not the things of God because they are spiritually discorned they are foolishness unto him and did not the Apostle say He did not live but Christ it was Christ that lived in him mark again it was Christ that lived in him if it was Christ that lived in him it was Christ that spake in him the life that he lived it was by the faith of the Son of God mark what a life was this and did he not say that the Son of God was revealed in him and if the Son be revealed in any must it not be he that must speak and declare of the Father but people have had the form of godliness since the dayes of the Apostles but have wanted the thing wants the thing that the Apostles were in who had the Son of God Christ Iesus and therefore it is by them that have the form wondred and stranged at and not the power of God wondred estranged where Christ Jesus is manifested and speaks and acts and rules was it not the Apostles Doctrine to preach Christ in them and told them the hope of the Glory which was in them which was the Mystery hid from ages and generations And is not this Christ the hope of Glory a Mystery in this age as it was in the days of the Apostles to the world and had been to generations before and hath it not been a mystery in the ages past amongst them that have had the form of godliness since the Apostles But where Christ within this Mystery this hope of glory is witnessed may he not speak without offence And did not Christ say he would come again to his Disciples and make his abode with them And did he not say I in you and the spirit of the Father which speaketh in you They were not to take thought when they were brought before Rulers and Magistrates and is not the spirit of the Father the spirit of Christ And are not they that have not the spirit of Christ none of his Therefore take heed I am moved to warn and charge you in the presence of the Lord God ye Rulers and Magistrates of this Nation lest ye be found acting against the spirit of the Father where he speaks in such as are brought before you who have the form of godliness such as witness Christ in them and the spirit of the Father to speak and the Son of God come according to his promise which doth witness that fulfilled doth not John say in his Epistle That the Son of God was tome and they were in him and this was the true God and Eternal life and do not the Apostles in their several Epistles which have been read amongst you long speake that Christ is in you and of their being the sons of God and the son of God revealed in them and the spirit of the father in them and Christ the mystery in them Have ye not heard these things read and amongst you and have not these things long been hid amongst them that have had the form of godliness and Christ in the male and the female and God will dwell in you and walk in you and the Word is in thy heart and is not Christs Name called the Word of God Now thi●k you not it strange to finde any to witness these things and that these things should be possessed you that have had the form of godliness long the night of the apostacie hath been long since these words were spoken forth and the thing enjoyed that these words spake of but now cometh to be possessed the things that they did enjoy which spoke the words which long they have had the form of in the night of the apostacie since the dayes of the Apostles Now if it be not the spirit of God nor the voice of the father nor the spirit of Christ that speaks in man it is natural and devilish and that is it that stands against the voice of Christ and the spirit of God but if any meer creature by him made saith that he is Christ that is false and is not so for all creatures that were created were by him and for him and all things that were made were created for his service Christ Iesus the Power of God by which all things were made and created and where the Power of God is there is Christ and Christ is the Power of God take notice of that the Power of God is everlasting where the Power of God is received and felt Christ is received and felt and where the Power of God speaks Christ speaks and ye that feel the Power of God ye feel Christ and will not be offended at the Power of God where it speaks which is Christ and so Christ is one in all who are in the povver and vvhere the povver of God doth not rule and speak the power of the devil that speaks and that is it which is tormented at the power of God which is Christ that speaks if the truth speak is it not Christ Doth he not say I am the Truth and if the life speak is it not that I which is the Life If the unrighteous speak it is a false thing but is the power of God speaks it is the truth If it be the power of God that speaks which is the true Christ it is the power of the Devil which is the false christ So examine your selves if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin and there the sin is dead And is not Christ Iesus which ex●ept he be in you ye are reprobates is not he the Emanuel and the Saviour and the Prince of peace and is not he the prince of Life and the Hosannah and is not this witnessed within where he is made manifest or is he divided from these and is not he the Lamb of God and are not they against him where he is manifest with him that would not have him to speak such as would not have him to raigne Here you may see what hathbeen lost since the Apostles that they were in and rejoiced this night of apostacie which time had the form but not the power but now is coming again to
practice be made manifest again in the world and the same evening one Alice Brock felton her knees before the said Nayler and Nayler put his hands upon her head and said Stand fast c. Thomas Cole informeth That the 25 of October Martha Simmons and Hanna Stranger being called out of Naylers room into their own lodging they one after another kneeled before Nayler and laid their heads on his knees and he laid his hands on their heads making a groaning noyse within himself and before they rose from their knees he b Laying on of hands was owned before the house but crossing of hands is denied crossed his hands over their heads And Hanna Stranger at her examination before the Committee confessed That she kneeled at James Naylers feet and kissed them and others being demanded concerning these actions would give no answer And James Nayler being examined whether any kneeled and kissed his feet answered that there might be such things though he did not mind it being things that he did not glory in * Mark As for his doing of miracles particularly Dorcas Erbery saith that she was dead c Is it blasphemy to raise from the dead in Exeter Goal two days and that Nayler laid his hands upon her and raised her which she affirmed in her examination at Bristol and did not deny when examined as to this by the Committee To which Naylor being examined whether Dorcas Erbury was dead in Exon Goal as in her examination answered If you speak of such a death as you may understand she was dead Being further asked how she was dead in his understanding answered I shall say little of my self in that thing And being further asked whether he raised her from the dead answered I can do nothing of my self Being asked whether any other did raise her by his hands and if he laid his hands upon her answered There is a power in me from above And being demanded whether he had such a power as to raise from the dead answered I have said before I cannot bear witness of my self in the thing And being asked who bore witness of him answered The Scriptures a If the Scriptures or any just Law of this Nation had been harkned to the Innocent would not thus have suffered cruel torments do bear witness to the power which is in me which is everlasting And being demanded whether he raised from the dead by vertue of that power answered I can do nothing but what the power doth in me and it is the same power whereof you reade in the Scriptures b Mark and take notice of this that hath raised the dead according to the measure of the power manifest And being asked whether that power were manifest in such a manner in him as to raise Dorcas Erbery from the dead answered I have said I shall not satisfie in words concerning the thing further than onely this That you may clearly understand that wherein Dorcas Erbery or any else do attribute unto me as to a Creature that hath beginning and ending that I utterly deny a Mark what blasphemy are in these words but that that any see of God in me by the same spirit that revealed any thing to them that I do not deny This may serve at one word for there cannot be a more abominable thing than to take from the Creator and give to the Creature b Mark again the same power which did raise from the dead which you reade in the Scripture the same Christ a Take notice he speaks not of another Christ but the some that was yesterday Heb. 13. 8. the same anointing according to the measure of him is manifest in me and not another And being asked if any prayed to Christian him whether he did dis-own it answered As a Creature I do disown it c Take notice These things d What matter of fact is in these things that is in the least evil or what the Scriptures do not own and divers others we have reported as part of the matter of fact Second Article That the said James Nayler assumed a How assumed because others write and spoke ● what the Lord commanded them the name and the incommunicable attributes and titles of our blessed Saviour as first The fairest of ten thousand As for this the evidence was in a Letter of Hanna Stranger found about him at Bristoll the giving him the title of the fairest of ten thousand which upon her examination at Bristoll and before the Committee she confessed she wrote to him in her Letter And James Naylor being asked by the Committee whether any such title as the fairest of ten thousand had been given to him in any Writing or Letter he answered To what they did in the Letter if they gave it to me as to the visible then I do deny it b Mark what is confessed and what denied and let the wise judge if the Scriptures speak not the same things 12 Cor. 4. 7. 10. and 2 Cor. 6 18. and 13. chap. and 15. 1 Cor. 6. 19. and ought not Christ to speak or be worshipped in his Temple but if they speak it to that begotten of the Father in me then I dare not deny it And being willed to repeat that answer again he said If they speak it as to the visible as to that which is earthly then I deny c Mark his yea is amen any such thing belonging to me in that sense but if they speak it to that which the Father hath begotten in me then I dare nor deny it because that as he said is beautifull * Where the most of that beauty is revealed by God amongst ten thousand there is the fairest of ten thousand This was his testimony before the House wherever it is begotten And in his second examination before the Committee his answer was to the same effect d So he changeth not Resolution of the Committee Vpon this evidence the Committee were of opinion that James Naylor a You should not spend your opinion of things you know not for he denies that James Naylor which is the visible to take these things upon him had assumed the title of The fairest of ten thousand 2. The only begotten Son of God And for that the evidence was that Hanna Stranger in the said Letter gave him that title And being demanded whether he did assume that title answered in these words That there are many sons b Mark this also you that are of an understanding heart besides yet the son of God I must witness and dare not deny c Was not this a direct answer and sufficient to all them that desired to hear the truth the son of God I am and dare not deny And being often pressed to give a direct answer whether he were the onely begotten d He that is a son o God is he not the onely begotten of God Doth any help God to beget
Israel The evidence of this was in the same letter of Jane Woodcocks we find it given to him and in his examination at Bristoll whether that title was given to him he would make no answer And being examined by the Committee whether he assumed to be sent to judge and try the cause of Israel answered in these words the Judge of Israel is but one and that Judge I witnesse in me which is the Christ a Mark his answers all along and see what blasphemy you find And further answered if thou speak of him whom the Father hath sent into the World and begotten in me the holy Ghost the Spirit of the Father and the Son in me which is in me it thou speak of it this I own And being asked in what respect he was sent he answered no otherwise but as God manife s t in the flesh though not as mortall And being asked by whom he was sent to trie the cause of Israel answered by him who hath made all creatures and hath sent his Spirit into me his Son into me to try the cause though he said he was no Judge in carnall matters And being asked whether he were more sent to judge and trye the cause of Israel than another answered in these words as to my saying I am sent mind that no otherwise then as the Father and the Son is in me and to that I say further that no other man is sent in that sence but he that knoweth the indwelling of that God and according to the measure of his knowledge of the living God so far is Judgement b Let his answers be w●yed in the right Ballance Job 31. 6. and those that dwell in love will see no 〈…〉 llin them committed to him and no further And being urged to answer whether any other had the same measure of Judgement to judge the cause of Israel as he had he answered that he ●●d●ot at present any thing given him of his Father to answer unto that Resolution of the Committee Resolution of the Committee That James Naylor a Learn to speak truth hath assumed to be sent to judge and trye the Cause of Israel Iesus And for this the evidence was Iohn Stranger in a postscript in his wifes letter directed to and found upon Iames Naylor used these words thy name is no more to be called Iames but Iesus which postscript being shewed to Stranger by the Committee he owned it written by him and being asked wherefore he called him Jesus answered in these words I was moved b Be not offended at the movings of the Lord lest he break you in pieces Read Mat. 21. 44. of the Lord and afterwards by the Spirit of the Lord and being asked whether by Jesus he meant the Saviour of the World he would give no answer And Martha Symmons in her examination at Bristoll saith that she hath heard some call him Jesus which examina●ion being read unto her she denied not that though she denied another part of that examination And James Naylor being examinated whether any person had called him by the name of Jesus answered in these words as I am visible c Take notice of this here before you I believe they have not but that the name of the Lord is in me that I dare not deny and further said that they have given that name to him who is the Jesus d Read and understand 2. Cor. 13. 5. But if they have given it to any other then to the Son of God that is in me I do deny what they have spoken d Mark And being asked whether he denyed that they gave him the name of Jesus answered as I am a creature e Mark again where is the blasphemy I believe they did not afterwards confessed that the name of Jesus was given him in a letter if he had understood it of any other than the Iesus he should have denied it being demanded whether they gave the name of Jesus to him he answered in these words no otherwise than as to the Son of God a Take notice of this also being demanded whether any had given him the name of Jesus answered not as to the visible and being demanded to what then they gave the name of Jesus answered in these words I understand they gave that name to the Jesus to the Christ b Let those that know what Christ Jesus is judge if this be blaspemy and let the Scriptures bear witness Read Col. 1. 27. 2. Cor. 13. 5. that is in me Vpon his second examination being asked whether he owned the name of Jesus and if that title belonged to him as to Christ within him he answered that name was never published to be called by me neither do I call my self c Mark again by that name but what my Father hath published is another thing Resolution of the Committee Vpon this evidence the Committee were of opinion that James Naylor assumed the name of Jesus * What ground is there for such an opinion seeing they often Feard him deny it as to self He in whom the hope of Israel standeth And for this the evidence was in the letter of Martha Symmons found upon James Naylor were these words thou well beloved Lamb of God in whom the hope of Israel stands And James Naylor in his examination at Bristoll being asked whether he were the Lamb of God in whom the hope of Israel stands answered that if I were not his Lamb I should not be so sought to be devoured d Is it a true saying and that the hope of Israel stands in the Righteousnesse of the Father in whomsoever it is and being asked whether Israels hope were in any measure in him be answered yea which examination of his at Bristoll being read to him by the Committee he denyed not this part of it and being examinated by the Committee whether their hope of Israel did stand in him answered in these words it stands only in Christ Jesus a Take notice he cannot deny Christ Jesus but himself doth he deny and as Christ Jesus is known in me and being asked again whether he were in whom the hope of Israel stands answered in these words no way but as Christ is in me b Mark and being then asked whether as Christ is in you so are you he in whom the hope of Israel stands answered nay doe not adde to my words I speak as plain as I can that all the glory may be given to God * Take notice of this mans blasphemy who would have all the glory given to God and what is there proved that he hath taken to himself and none to the creature that the whole glory may be given to my Father And none to me as you look upon me as a creature and the next question was whether as Christ is in you are you he in whom the hope of Israel stands to which he answered Christ
Letter of mine given to the Speaker this morning which I desire may be read amongst you is written at the latter end thereof these words viz. If I may have Liberty of those that sit in the Parliament I do here at their doore attend and am ready out of the Scriptures of Truth to shew That not anything James Nayler hath said or done is blasphemy or worthy either of death or bonds These were delivered the 15. of December being the eleventh time the whole House had set about this businesse so when I had given the Speaker the Letter I waited at their door from the time they first sate till they arose and then I departed in peace ROBERT RICH. To you that sit in Parliament who own the Scriputres are these for what is written aforetime is written for our admonition 1 Cor. 10. 11. Quaery 1. WHether those that said God was their Father and crucified him for blasphemy that spoke the truth were not lyars and of their Father the Devil yea or nay read Ioh. 8. 41. 44. 2. Whether lyars covetous or proud men are not the Synagogue of Satan And if such say they are the children of God or Christians whether by the Scripture that be not blasphemy Read Rev. 2. 9. 3. Whether the lyar doth not hate him that abides in the truth Read 1 Ioh. 3. 12 and there see why Cain slew Abel And as it was then is it not so now Doth not he that is born after the flesh persecute him that is born after the spirit Read Gal. 4. 29. 4. Whether they that have the spirit of Christ Jesus in them punisheth the body or puts any to death for words true or false And did not Christ come to save life and not to destroy it Read Mark 34. Matt. 13. 29 3● Iohn 8. 11. 5. Whether Christ Jesus hath not been a stumbling stone and a Rock of offence throughout all Generations Read and see Isa 8. 14. 18. Luke 2. 34. 1 Pet. 2. 7 8. Luke 20. 17 18 19. Matt. 13. 55 56. Luke 5. 30. 33. read these Scriptures over And did not the very Disciples of Christ oft stumble and were offended at him Read over these Scriptures and consider them well Matt. 26. 8. to the 14. ver the 31. ver Matt. 28. 17. Ioh. 6. 60. Luke 24. 11 15 16 37. ver Ioh. 11. 39 40. Joh. 20. 15. Lu. 24. 32. And did not the Prophets do many things that the wisdom of the flesh might count foolishness and to be rediculous Read Isa 20. 2 3. Ier. 13. 3 4 5 c. Ezek. 4. 1 2 3 c. Ezek. 12. 5 6. Acts 21. 12 13. Ios 6. 6 6. VVhether the Lord in all ages hath not tried the children of men Read Psal 11. 4 5. Rev. 3. 9 10. And whether the day be not approaching that will try every mans work 1 Cor. 3. 13. And whether all men be not either the children of God or of the Devil And whether by their fruits they are not made manifest And whether those that are the Children of God be not lead into moderation Gentlenesse patience mercifulnesse meeknesse love c. And whether the Devil leads not his into wrath envy hatred emulation varience strife c So in this thing you will make your selves manifest which spirit leads you and whose children you are Search the Scriptures and see if these things be not so Robert Rich. To the Parliament of England c The humble Petition of Robert Rich sirnamed Mordicai on the behalf of himself and all the Seed of the Jews which wait for the consolation of Israel that are of an upright heart scattered throughout these three Nations of England Scotland and Ireland whether in Forms or in Professions or out of them Humbly sheweth THat ever since the yeer 1648. it was hoped that Opression and all Persecution for conscience sake would utterly have ceased according to what hath often been declared and instead thereof that Truth and Mercy would have taken place But contrary thereto within these three yeers last past have many hundreds even in this one Nation of England in all pars thereof been cast into Prisons Dungeons and Holes and some have perished therein and others have endured cruel whippings stonings and other bodily punishments besides the spoiling of their goods for no other cause save for matters concerning the Law of their God and that for conscience sake they could not bow to Hamans nature not so much as one known Law of this Nation proved that they had transgressed The Premises being considered My humble request is That the Innocent in all Prisons throughout these Nations may be set at Liberty that onely for eonscience sake suffer And more particularly in case there be yet behinde of the sufferings of James Nayler to be file'd up that it may be acted in my body And I shall ever pray for the peace of Jerusalem and for all them that love her proferity ROBERT RICH. Blessed is he that considereth the poor and needy the Lord will deliver him in he time of trouble and cover his head in the day of Battel Let none become Judges of evil thoughts Jam. 2. 4. Rob. Rich. Quaeries given to the Speaker of the House and several other Members of Parliament 1. WHether the anointing of the Father be not the Christ Exod. 40. 15. Psal 89. 20. c. Psal 45. 7. Heb. 1. 9. Is● 61. 1. ●sal 104. 6. to the 16. 1 Joh. 2. 27. 2 〈◊〉 1. 21 and whether he was not compleat Christ the Son of God before he took upon him that flesh in which he suffered at Jerusalem yea before the soul or body of man or the world was Prov. 8. 22. to the 32. ●o● 1. 1 2 3 4. Jo. 8. 58. Joh. 17. 5. Eph. 4. 10. And whether the Name Christ reach not over the whole body anointed from the beginning of the world to the end 1 Cor. 1. 12 2. Did not Christ Jesus speak in other Vessels and was he not persecuted in other Vessels besides that wherein he was lifted up at Jerusalem and if he had said in those Vessels he was not the Christ whether he had lyed or no Acts 9. 4. 2 Co● 13. 3. 1 Cor. 7. 10 12. Phil. 1. 20. Rom. 8 9 10. Rom 10. 6 7 8. 1 Cor. 1. 24. 3. Doth not the Scripture say God will write his Name on him that overcomes Rev. 3. 12. which Name he is to beare before Kings and Rulers Acts 9. 15. which if he deny shal he not be denyed before the Father in Heaven Matth. 10. 33. And if God doth reveal what he hath written to any other of his children and command him to confesse it whether his obedience be blasphemy yea or nay 4. Did Christ ever appear in the world and had not a body prepared Heb. 10. 5 And did he ever come into the world and not in a vail Heb. 10. 20. 2 Co● 3. 13 14. And whether those that
be made manifest which have been lost the Truth the power of the form and the life of Christ and Christ himself the Emanuel Therefore take heed of persecuting that which is created and made by his power where the power is received and dwelt in for the powers sake which power is Christ and which the power speakes through and where the power of God rules where there is a fault the fault is judged but where the seed is that is to be owned and it is not just that the mouth of the séed should be stopped in the fear of God and meekness vveigh and consider these things before you act and consider what vvas in the Apostles that caused them to suffer POSTSCRIPT IF the seed speake which is Christ he hath no other Name for the seed is Jesus Christ and it is not blasphemy but truth but if the seed of the serpent speak and say he is Christ that is the Lyer and the Blasphemer and the ground of all Blasphemy and is not the seed which is Christ but the head of the serpent is to be bruised which is the cause of all enmity strife and debate with the seed of the Woman which is Ghrift George Fox Was not the appearance of Christ when He was born glorious when that the voyce was cryed Hosanna to the Highest Was not this to the astonishing of the beholders and amazement of the world did it not stir up all chief Priests and Herod was not He puzled about His Birth and they troubled at his coming did not the Chief Priests and Rulers gather against Him who was full of grace and truth did not the glory of Him shew it self forth when He went up unto Jerusalem when the high voice was spoken and the songs to him sung the strength ordained out of the mouths of Babes and sucklings and was not Jerusalem the highest place of Worship and did not the strength which was ordained for the Babes and Sucklings set the Priests and Rulers on rage against Christ that they crucified and slew him and did not that make Herod and Pilate friends in the highest place of Worship did not He say and tell his Disciples Hee would come again the Hosanna Him that was cryed Glory to the Highest And did not He come again to his Apostles accordin 〈…〉 o his promise and make his abode with them and sup with them Did not the Apostles say to the Saints that Christ was in them the mysterie the hope of glory and if He was in them the body was dead because of sin did not the Apostle say Examine your selves prove your selves Know you not that Iesus Christ is in you except you be Reprobates mark Iesus Christ in you the Emmanuel the Saviour the Lamb of God the Hosanna Is not his appearance in the Spirit as glorious in his second coming as it was at his first is it not as much to be admired in the world as it was ever Answer these things and satisfie yourselves To the Light wherewith Christ Jesus hath enlightned you all I speak that with it you may see when you act against him where he is manifested To prison them contrary to the Just is to make them to grow and to banish them is to shame your Religion and not to own the thing the scripture speakes of and to put them to death is to destroy your selves George Fox Whether or no you will suffer Christ to have as much honor in the earth and the world as the Devil hath Where Christ is manifested whether or no he shall not have more honour or as much where he is manifested And whether or no it is offence to bow to man or to kneel before a Indgein the world Whether this be offensive to the world amongst the world to bow before such and among such the truth is not in And whether or no it would not be offence to such to bow to Christ where he is manifested and persecute such as do bow where the thing is in the truth whether or no such a thing may not be done in the truth and bee a figure to all the bowings of the earthly Powers which be out of truth which hath reigned above the seed of God An example to you all Therefore take heed and consider before you act any thing or judge lest God judge you afterward for be assured He will Whether bowing in the Truth may not bee a figure that the seed of God shall rise and reign above the Earthly Powers and they shall bow to it And how know you but such things as these may bee tryalls to you whether you will persecute another for taking that which is acted among you to your selves in another way different from this Now come to do as you would be done by and do not persecute that in another that is acted in the world though it be professed otherwayes in the intent and come to the true measure and weight and act nothing in your own wils nor out of the counsel of God to judge the just upon earth in this world the just you 'l be judged by that is of the world to come without end I receive not Honor of man Whether or no if any do persecute the seed which doth take the honor of God which is over the world and it They themselves do take the honor of the world that persecutes the contrary Are these things judged with a just measure and weighed with an equall ballance yea or nay George Fox DID not Christ wash the Disciples feet Did he not do that as a pattern and example to those that came after him that they should do to one another Have you washed one anothers feet Have ye anointed one another with oyle that stumble at these where they are acted Are not these the expressions of love to one another And are not these things to be acted amongst the Disciples of Christ Are not these things wonders amongst you that do not wash one anothers feet that be out of the example of the Lord did not the Disciples wash one anothers feet according to Christs example Were not the Prophets feet washed Did not Peter desire his head o be washed Do not wonder and strange at these things where they are practised Were not the Saints to salute one another with a holy kisse and was not Peter to be carried whither he would not Was there not a time that he girded himself And is it not the Prince of the air that rules in the children of disobedience if it be not the Prince of Peace and the Lamb of God And is it not an expression of love and honor where there is the washing of one anothers feet And for the washing or kissing of feet it is but an expression of love and humility And is not this a patern and example to all you to judge you all how far short ye are of washing one anothers feet or kissing one anothers feet and do not wrong