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A91468	Goliahs head cut off with his own sword; in a combat betwixt little David, the young stripling, who stands in the power and strength of his God, and great Goliah the proud boaster, who stands in his own strength, glorifying in the arm of flesh, and contemning and despising little David, because of his youth. In a reply to a book, set forth by an un-named author, under pretence of an answer to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell, whom he in scorn calls, the young Quaker. And also an answer to severall counter-queries, propounded by the same unnamed authour, whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton, a teacher of the world, at Abbey Rippon, in Huntingtonshire, ... and also he that takes his part, who writes himself W.P. who knowes not the power of God, and therefore glories in the length of time, and the multitude of years. ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the armies of the aliens, who muster up themselves against the Lord, and his authority: by a friend to the common-wealth of Israel, who is known to the world, by the name James Parnel. Who is a sufferer in outward bonds, for the testimony of the everlasting truth, in Colchester Castle. 1655.	Parnell, James, 1637?-1656.	1655 (1655)	Wing P531; Thomason E861_1; ESTC R203310	65,568	94

and yielded to the deceipt of their heares and so gave occasion to such as thee who wait for occasion to blaspheme the truth but it is no new thing 1 Tim. 14.15 but the same which the Scripture declares of in divers places therefore saith Christ offences must come but woe unto them by whom they do come Mat. 26 Mat. 27.5 for there was then many such as thee in that age who as thou dost waited for occasion to blaspheme the truth but if thou hadst been then how would'st thou have accused Christ who had but twelve Apostles and one of them betrayed him and then hanged himselfe and another denied him therefore let this stop thy mouth for speaking evil of the things thou knowest not and as for Spencer and Gilpin whom thou here nominates the truth is sufficiently cleared of them in other Books and the Priests have owned them as they did Judas which is the name of all that turn from the truth after they have received it Have so many fallen into distraction or madness in any Sect Qu 100. or under any Doctrine as there hath done amongst your hearers especially where the number of Disciples was no more Look at home and answer thy selfe witness your Universities Ans as you call them for it is the fruit of your studies who would finde out that by your wit and wisdom which the Lord hath hid from you and all that you cannot settle in security and blindness you lead them into madness confusion and distraction if they do not in time forsake you as many will witness at this day that they are led by you into such a Wildernesse that they know not which way to get out neither do you know how to direct them for you are in confusion your selves Mat. 15 14. and so the blinde leads the blinde into the ditch therefore this might have stopped thy mouth from falsly accusing us but I remember truth was ever accounted madness and folly by the blinde World who know not that Godliness is great gain And in thy 94. Query thou wast questioning the truth of our Doctrine because of the multitude of Disciples and now by the fewness and thus thou contradicts thy selfe and then after much of thy filthy stuffe which all along thou hast vented forth of thy old bottle against us which upon thee I have returned again from whence it came thou seemest to accuse our book but dost not shew wherein and therefore I passe it by as knowing thy lying spirit and then thou stealest the Apostles words for a Cloak for the deceipt of thy heart 2 Cor. 13.7 8 9. which the Apostle spoke from a true and upright heart but thou from a false deceiptful heart as all along hath been sufficiently proved and thy prayers to be abomination and that thou hast nothing to do to name the name of God in thy mouth who art a worker of iniquity and a stranger unto God who art found out of his Doctrine 2 Tim. 2 19. 2 Ioh. 9. and therefore with this Scripture I shall mark thee 2 John 9.10 that all may know thee and turn away their eares from thee who art not to be received but denied and therefore whosoever receives thee or thy Doctrine the same departs from the Doctrine of Christ and therefore let this be a Caveat to all people to whom it shall come and look upon thee to be as Anathema Maranatha 1 Cor. 16.22 This from a friend to all souls witnessed in all consciences by the eternall Light of God by which I am known and received I. P. THE END

abroad to preach the Gospel 0 neither allowed them 100 or 200 pounds by the yeare as thou hast but they chose out those that were strong in the faith and set them to watch over the weake but those Churches was gathered by the power and Spirit of God and was turned from darknesse to light and was washed clensed and sanctified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God but out of your Church cast Drunkerds and Swearers and Liers and Proud and Covetous ones and adulterous and Idolaters and Quarrellers and Fighters and Scoffers 1 Cor. 6.11 and Scorners and Backbiters and Envious ones and Prophane and wanton ones and the like who are neither washed nor sanctified and then see where will be the Church of England and the Pastors Teachers and Elders Rv. 3. and all then you that profess your selves to be the Church of Christ will be found the synagogue of Satan whose Minister thou art and also Paul and Barnabas who ordained them Elders was men indued with the holy Spirit of the Lord and was immediately called and chosen to the Ministry and had a Spirit of discerning to know who was fitted for the Elder-ship and all this was done without an University or serving seven yeares to learne Arts and Sciences or taking Degrees without which you can do nothing and also those Superiors and Governours that ordaine you teachers and governours have nothing but what they have gotten by art and study and reading of others experiences but are ignorant of the power of God neither knowes whether there be any Holy-Ghost yea or nay but by the hearing of the eare but scofs and scornes and and persecutes those that now do witnesse these things and they themselves was also first ordained by the will of man and thus thou hast but so much the more manifested thy selfe to the world in going about to prove thy selfe a called Minister by the Scripture which doth altogether witnesse against thee And whereas thou would'st have me to prove my Call by an infallible Testimony I tell thee without an infallible Testimony I do not goe neither without an infallible Testamony doe I desire to be received or owned and to this the infallible Spirit of truth beares Testimony in all the Children of truth and thou that hast not an infallible Testimony either with me or against mee art still in darknesse and knowes not the truth then farre unfit to be a teacher to others Whether thou art guided by the same infallible Spirit that gave forth the Scripture 3 Query And in thy answer thou saist P. Ans that we our selves teach that all men are taught and guided by that Spirit at times and secondly thou saist thou praises God for it thou art guided and assisted by that Spirit which is alwaies infallible and thirdly thou saist thou doubt whether any of those that are called Quakers are alwaies guided by that Spirit Here all that are guided by any measure of that Spirit may easily see thy lies and confusion for thy first is a lie Rep. that any of us doe teach that all men are taught and guided by that Spirit at times for I deny that thou art who art now taken with a lie in thy mouth which all that understands our doctrine will witnesse against and secondly that thou art guided by an infallible Spirit is a lie against the Holy-Ghost for no lie comes from that Spirit And againe thou belies the Spirit of truth to say thou art guided by it and yet cannot give an infallible Testimony whether those thou calls Quakers are guided by an infallible Spirit yea or nay but art in thy doubts Joh. 8.44 but that Spirit is without doubts which now judgeth thee to be a lier and thy God thou praises to be the Devill the Father of lies who must both be tormented together Whether they that are guided by that Spirit need study how or what to say 4 Qu. And in thy answer thou saist P. An Timothy had that Spirit in a greater measure then James Parnell yet Paul saith thus unto him as in 1 Tim. 4.13 14 15 16. And thou saist if the Apostles had beene put to it to preach upon a short Text or Theme Methodically as by long practice in the Church is expected from you they must oft times have studied for it as thou conceivest though if you were left at large to speake as the Spirit of God mo es you and giveth matter in thou hopes some of you by Gods assistance should speake as togood or better purpose then any whonow pretend to the spiritsactings Here thou hast sufficiently manifested thy spirit Rep and thy ignorance of the spirit of God to any who understands the things of the spirit of God and all these Scriptures which thou hast brought concerning Timothy doth not at all prove that he that is guided by the spirit of God need study how or what to preach But Paul exhorted Timothy to the gift that was in him which was given him by or for prophesie for in so doing he should save himself and those that heard him which you never do by the fruit of your study but rather destroyes them witness the fruits of your Ministry this many years in this Nation who have wrought no better Reformation amongst your hearers and also this Scripture doth not at all prove that Paul bid Timothy study old Authours and heathenish Commentators as you do neither to study Arts and Sciences as you do who with your Philosophy Col. 2.8 and vain deceipt do spoile the people for thou hast manifested thy selfe to be altogether ignorant of the spirit of God who by thy own conceivings judgest the spirit of God to be unsufficient to instruct and teach the Apostles what to speak at all times without study when as Christ himselfe exhorteth them to take no thought what to speak for it should be given them in the very same houre Mat. 10.19 20. for saith he It is not you that speaks but the spirit of your Father that speaketh in you which spirit speaketh not without method which spirit you Teachers of the Church of England are great strangers to who think that the spirit of God can be limited to a Text or a Theme as thou confessest you are but thou lier where is now thy infallible spirit who thus speakest thy own conceivings and therefore be ashamed hence forward to pretend to an infa lible spirit who hast here so openly manifesied thy ignorance of it and its movings so that if thou wast left at large to speak from that spirit in thee was shut out of thy Liberary from any Text or Writing Isay 56.10 thou wouldst plainly manifest thy self to be one of the dumb Dogs that could not bark which I saiah from the spirit of the Lord declared against without study for I do believe that if thou and the rest of the nationall

GOLIAHS HEAD Cut off with his own Sword In a Combat betwixt little David The young Stripling who stands in the power and strength of his God and great Goliah the proud Boaster who stands in his own strength glorifying in the arm of flesh and contemning and despising little David because of his youth In a Reply to a Book set forth by an un-named Author under pretence of an Answer to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell whom he in scorn calls the young Quaker And also an Answer to severall Counter-Queries propounded by the same unnamed Authour whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton A Teacher of the World at Abbey Rippon in Huntingtonshire wherein his folly and ignorance is much layd open and the pride and deceipt of his spirit much manifested And also he that takes his part who writes himself W. P. who knowes not the power of God and therefore glories in the Length of time and the multitude of years But Solomon who was a wiser man then great Goliah said that the honourable age is not that which is of long time neither that which is measured by the Number of years but wisdom is the gray hair and an undefiled life is old Age. And therefore let not the wise man glory in his wisdom nor the strong man glory in his strength for it is vanity Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the Armies of the Aliens who muster up themselves against the Lord and his Authority by a friend to the Common-wealth of Israel who is known to the World by the name James Parnel Who is a sufferer in outward bonds for the testimony of the everlasting truth in Colchester Castle 1655. London Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. The Title of the aforesaid Book An Answer according to truth that trembles not nor quakes nor quaileth given to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell commonly called the young Quaker to an ancient Country Minister with some Counter-Queries by the said Minister unto the said young Quack and his fellows HEre thou mayst be ashamed to stile thy selfe an ancient Minister Reply Heb. 12.21 Jer. 23.9 Job 4.14 Ezek. 12.10 who manifests such an Ishmaels spirit who with reproachfull words makes a scoffe at the power of truth which the Ministers of God in all ages witnessed which made them to quake and tremble And though the truth neither quake nor quaileth yet all that owned the truth owned and witnessed quaking and trembling which truth thou manifests thy selfe but a professor of and a stranger to the power and a despiser thereof and therefore out from among the Ministers of Christ thou art raised Eccles 12.3 And thy Answer is not according to truth but a Lie as shall further be made to appear hereafter by him whom thou calls the young Quack and it seems fear surpriseth the heart of the Hypocrite P F. 22.14 15. Priest so that thou art ashamed to own thy work with thy name And whereas thou sayst Courteous Reader we are forced notwithstanding so many Pāphlets extant against the people called Quakers to give answer to thirty six Queries of James Parnells the young Quaker Although thou hast boasted thy selfe an ancient Minister Rep. and contemns me as a young Boy yet here it appears that thou art glad of others to help thee to answer my Queries as these words before mentioned doth testifie And yet it is but a Pamphlet as thou and thy helpers do confess that those many are that are extant against the people called Quakers And then thou run on in way of reproach and scorn against me because of my youth but the wisdom of Solomon answereth you That a poor and wise Child is better then an old foolish King who will no more be admonished Eccles 4.13 And therefore when you think of your age consider also your folly and let that stop your mouthes from professing your selves Ancients who manifests such a Light scornful spirit and hates to be reformed And whereas thou sayst thou doubtest not Priest but his Queries are the dictates of others deceiving and being deceived which they yet put under the Boyes name for the Credit of their cause Here also without doubt Rep. thy unbelieving heart is manifested who without ground measurest others according to thine own heart who because thou makest use of the dictates of others as here doth plainly appear therefore censurest others which doth not adde credit to thy cause because thou boasts of thy age But according as thou believes Priest so be it to thee yet nevertheless thou shalt finde that the truth I shall maintain against thee who with thy unbelieving heart art deceiving and being deceived and then thou runs on in the pride of thy spirit accusing of me to be ignorant of the truth of God because as thou sayst Priest of the false wording of my Queries But with shame might thou speak it Rep. for openly hast thou manifested to the understanding Reader thy selfe to be a meer stranger both to God and his truth also who would limit the truth of God to a humane art which many of the Children of God had not Act. 4.13 and therefore the power of God was the more manifested And when Peter and John was brought before the learned men to wit the chief Priests and the Rulers and they wondered at them because they perceived they was unlearned men and thus with thy wisdom and thy great learning thou art shut out of the truth in the naturall but by this I do not own thy accusation to be truth against me for I have a Copy of the Queries of my own hand writing which was the originall of those that was sent to thee which will bear testimony against thee to be a false accuser and how thou thy selfe hast wronged them and misworded them because they was in the crosse unto thy wisdom And to maintain this thou bringest a story in Erasmus nevertheless the story which thou bringest doth not at all touch me but may fitly be returned into thy new bosom where it shall lie Then thou and thy Agent beseeches the Reader to read without partiality which if he do he will judge no otherwise of you then as I have declared but will see how you have uttered forth your folly and foamed out your shame in going about to contradict the truth And at the end of this your Epistle to the Reader I finde W. P. which I judge to be one of thy Agents to this your shamefull work to which thou darst not own thy name My first Querie Where 1 Qu P An. and how and by what wast thou called to the Ministry which thou professest And in thy answer to this Querie thou goest about to plead many excuses whereby to fly the answering of my Queries saying it is easier for him that is yet in

Teachers whom thou confessest are tyed to a text or Theme could tell how to pleafe the people and get gain without studying or speaking from a Text you would for the credit of your cause as thou sayst for I know nothing that ties you to it but your own covetous ends to make a gain of these Scriptures and to deceive the ignorant with feigned words 2 Pet. 2.3 whom Peter without study foretold of and therefore thou Hypocrite pretend no more to an infallible spirit but with the rest of thy Brethren confess thou art void of it as many of them have done for in such pretences thou art but the greater deceiver and thy folly doth the more appear Whether is it as lawfull now for Tradesmen 5. Query Shepheards or Plowmen to preach if they be led by the spirit of God as those that spake forth the Scripture And in thy answer thou sayst P. Answ if this was wholly granted James Parnell cannot claim any interest therein as thou conceivest for thou sayst he is neither Tradesman Plowman or Shepheard nor will take any course to maintain himself by his labour for he hath been tryed But herein James Parnell can plainly tell thee Reply thou art a Lyer for he followed a Trade with his Father untill the Lord by his spirit called him from it into his own work so I obeyed the word of the Lord and left my Father with his Trade Mat. 4.21 Mat. 10.37 38. as James and John did their Father in the Ship for he that will not forsake Father and Mother Lands and Livings Wife and Children and all for Christs sake is not worthy of him in which work neither thou nor any other can tax me for idleness but I believe my labour and diligence in the same is more offensive to you deceivers then if I had been Idle But he that would call me from this work that I am set about into the work of man I should answer him God must be served before man for if it had not been the will of God to call me forth into his work I should stall have served my earthly Father sooner then any other man notwithstanding the evill thoughts and conceivings of such like as thee who art given up to believe lies and tell lies but where is now thy infallible spirit who speakest by thy own conceivings and thus the thoughts of thy heart deceives thee and as for my maintenance I need not a Law to compel it as thou dost neither am chargeable to the World as thou art who by a Law of man takest nigh 300. l by the yeare of them therefore in this thou might have laid thy hand upon thy mouth for thou and hundreds more of thy Brethren never followed any honest Calling whereby to get an honest livelihood without being chargeable to the World but was from your youths brought up at Babylons Schools learning her wich-craft and sorcery thereby to deceive the Nations and through covetousness with feigned words make marchandize of them which you nowspare not And secondly thou grants P. Answ that if men be made of God spirituall whether Shepheards or Plowmen first they may teach But thirdly thou sayst every man that hath the spirit in some measure doth not attain to that height growth and degree that they did who gave forth the Scriptures and therefore may not as lawfully nor as infallibly teach as they did and thou sayst nor can thou discern clearly that the best amongst them called Quakers have yet reached that degree or dispensation of the spirit and after much dissembling speeches thou manifests thy light and frothy spirit still despising me because of my youth but thy words are not worth mentioning And thu swhen thou opens thy mouth Reply concerning the Spirit thou manifests thy folly and ignorance of the spirit so that a Babe may comprehend thee and tell thee of thy folly and when thou thinkest of thy beard or age as thou sayst confusion of face may cover thee for though every one that hath the spirit in some measure doth not attain to that height grouth and degree that they did who gave forth the Scripture yet it doth not follow that none doth attain to that grouth height and degree and they that have attained to the same spirit in a measure and by the same spirit are moved and called forth may as lawfully and as infallibly teach as they did in their measures for the same spirit is infallible in the least measure and its call is lawful and thus thou shewest thou was never called nor led by it who art so ignorant of it and as here also doth further appear in that thou confessest thou discernest not the people called Quakers and therefore art blind and from thee the secrets of God are hid and it doth not follow that they are ever the less spiritual but rather more because thou canst not discern them who pretends thy selfe a spiritual man and thus they are attained to that degree they can discern thee to be a blind guide and deceiver of the World and therefore is thy spirit the more against them for all thy flattering and dissembling speeches from thy hypocritical heart who bends thy Tongue like a Bow against them uttering forth lies in hypocrisie and with thy sconrful spirit reproachest me with lies but it was thy Generation that quaked for fear of the downfall of their Kingdom and therefore persecuted me and imprisoned me yet their fear did not overtake me for I was made as willing to suffer as they was to inflict as knowing it was for his cause who will make you all to quake and tremble who lift up your heels against him and as thou compares Cambridg to Jericho so the curse of Jericho shal come upon it for its whordom and sorceries and stifneckedness against the Lord and his anointed and though thou thus scornest me and despisest me because of my youth yet it is because thou knowest not the Scripture nor the power of God Whether any are the Ministers or Messengers of Christ but those that are guided by his spirit Query 6. and abide in his Doctrine as the holy men of God was in Scripture and whether the wind doth not now blow where it listeth And in thy answer to the first part P. Ans thou grants that none are the true Ministers Messengers of Christ but those that are in some measure guided by his spirit and abide in his Doctrine But secondly thou sayst men may think that they have that spirit and yet be led by the lying spirit as Zedekiah who smote Michajah was 1 King 22.24 Herein thou markest out thy selfe for a deceiver who pretends to the spirit Reply and it is the lying spirit as is before proved and so art shut out from the Ministers and Messengers of Christ who art not guided by his spirit and therefore abides not in his Doctrine as is before proved by

thy ignorance of the true spirit and therefore thou and such false Prophets as thou thus smites at and persecutes us that are called Quakers because the Lord is pleased to bestow his spirit upon us whereby we are able to declare your deceipt and manifest your lying spirits who have professed your selves the Ministers of Christ yet strangers to his spirit and opposers of his truth like Jannes and Jambres who are men of corrupt mindes and Reprobates concerning the faith 2 Tim. 3.8 And to the second part of the Query thou sayst P. Ans that the wind doth blow where it listeth if it be not stopped yet are there many false windes which blow likewise from a deceiptful spirit which to prove thou quotest Eph. 4.14 that we henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro with every winde of Doctrine and sayst Minde this James This I do minde and still sees how thou markest out thy selfe with thy deceiptfull spirit Rep. for if the winde do blowe where it listeth which thou acknowledgest then what is that in you professed Ministers which goes about to stop it with gainsaying and persecution and would limit the spirit of God unto a Text or Theme from which you with your deceitful spirits do raise uses points tryalls and motives c. whereby many poore Creatures are tossed to and fro and carried about with your airy spirits with the slight and cunning craftiness of your brains whereby you study to deceive as thou mayst read in the latter end of the verse which thou hast quoted Ephes 4.14 which here shall stand against thee and so many are the Children which are tossed to and fro by you although they have both beards and age as thou sayst yea some are 30. some 40 some 50 some 60 yea 80. and never yet come to the knowledge of the truth and thus with feigned words through covetousness you make Marchandize of the people beguiling unstable souls but think not that all you false Prophets with the beast that upholds you can stop or quench this spirit which now bloweth where it listeth for with all the slight and craftiness that you can use you shall be made to fall before it and the fruits of your labours shall be given you Whether thou wilt own immediate Revelation now Query 7. yea or nay And in thy Answer thou sayst P. Ans the Apostle teacheth you to pray for the spirit of wisdom and Revelation in the acknowledgement of God which to prove thou quotes Ephes 1.17 but sayst there are many false lights and delusions of Sathan who too often transforms himselfe as an Angel of Light 2 Cor. 11.14 which thou sayst are entertained by unwary men for the Illuminations and Revelations of Gods spirit as appears in Zedekiah aforesaid which to prove thou quotes Ezek. 13.6 2 Thes 2.11 Here again thou hast marked out thy selfe Reply and also belies the Apostle for that Scripture in Ephes 1.17 onely makes mention how the Apostle prayed for the Ephesians that believed but it doth not at all prove that the Apostle taught you that are of the world to pray for the prayers of the wicked are abhominable Prov. 15 8. and the Apostle would not teach such to pray and though in thy Answer the substance of my Query is confessed yet it doth not serve to prove that thou dost witness it in thy selfe or own it where it is possessed who would barre it from youth and limit it to time and age and so shewes thy ignorance of it and that by the false lights and delusions of Satan thou art deceived who in thee rules as an Angel of Light and so thou art one of those unwary men who takes a lying spirit for an infallible spirit as is both here and often before proved who art found in Zedekiahs steps and so art one of those false Prophets which the Prophet speaks of who saith the Lord saith when he never spoke to thee as is before proved and how long have you professed Ministers of this Nation fed the people with expectations and hopes that you would confirm what you have spoken unto them which is not yet come to passe neither likely and thus you have deceived them by your lying divinations for your dishonest gain and therefore for this cause God hath given you up to strong delusions that you should believe a lie that you all might be damned who believe not the truth now it is come unto you but still take pleasure in unrighteousness as in those Scriptures aforesaid which thou hast quoted against thy selfe and so they shall stand What is the Gospel which thou art a Minister of Qu 8. and whether thy Gospel be free and without charge And in thy Answer thou sayst to the first part P. Ans that the Gospel which thou preachest is the same which Christ and his Apostles taught which thou sayst is summarily contained in these four verses Tit. 2.11 12 13 14. wherein the Apostle speaks of the grace of God to be their Teacher to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live soberly justly and godlily in this present World c. And to the second part thou sayst the Apostles Gospel was not every way without charge which to prove thou quotes 2 Cor. 11.8 and again thou sayst Nor hath Christ or any of his Apostles imposed it upon you that the Gospel should be altogether without charge unto them which have it taught which to prove thou quotes Rom. 15.27 And again thou sayst nor is James Parnells Gospel be it right or wrong without charge If he do not take more then it is worth if duly examined it is well Thy Spirit is much against James Parnell Rep. as Zedekia's was against Michajah yet here he can prove thee to be a lier and not onely against him but of his Lord also and therefore if thou beliest the Lord how much more the servant Joh. 1.29 for Christ Jesus the Lambe of God was the Gospel which the Apostles preached which was free and not chargeable to any though he was and is a burdensom stone to them that beleive not in him yet not chargeable And therefore thou blasphemer how darest thou to open thy mouth thus against the Lord and his anointed who art still in thy ungodlinesse and worldly lustes who art pleading for the earth and art a stranger to the free grace of God and therefore these verses which thou hast set downe shall stand to witnesse against thee which thou saist containeth the Gospel which thou preachest but the Apostles Gospel could not be contained in Paper Inke for the heavens could not containe him for he ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things and also of thy Gospel thou makest a trade and a gaine Eph. 4.10 being many yeares at an University as thou calest it to learn to preach it all which the Apostles did not and so thou bringest another

law and cunning craft and deceipt and bargaining and oppressing thereby to make your selves rich with the things of this life yea what thing is there in this Nation to get riches by though never so unbeseeming spirituall men but you have a hand in it and therefore none of those spirituall Souldiers which Paul speakes of in 2 Tim. 2.4 therefore silence thou deceiver for medling with the Scripture with thy Babylonious language as prohibit Mechanick Synod and Clergy which are the words of mans wisdom and contrary to the plaine language of the Scripture out of which thou art shut in Babylon where thou wast bred with thy Clergy as thou callest them Whether thou dost not walke in the steps of the Scribes and Pharises who art called of men Master or Doctor and hast the cheifest seate in the Synagogues Que. 16. and uppermost rooms at feasts and greetings in the markets contrary to the practise of the Apostles and so art under the woe which Christ pronounced against such yea or nay And here thou wouldest shuffle off with Questioning instead of Answering and saist P. Ans what if Christ gave the name of Master to Nicodemus John 3.10 and Luke the name of Doctor to Gamaliel in Act 5.3.4 and thou saist Is it then the giving or taking of these names which Christ forbiddeth or the arrogant using of them out of an high or proud Spirit that desires to be Idolized and thou confessest the word Rabby signifies Doctor or Master which names thou saist was familiarly given both in the Old and New Testament which to prove thou quotes Eccles 12.11 Eph. 4.11 1 Cor. 12.28 Reply The 89 and 90 Que are answered in this Reply and thy 92 Query also Here thy blindnesse doth appeare and thou wilt need no other proofe against thee but thy own words though here thou would'st go about to slander Christ and his Apostles whom thou art not worthy to name neither dost thou thereby answer my Query but would justify that which Christ cried woe against therfore a Minister of Antichrist art found to which the woe belonges for that Scripture in John 3.10 doth not prove that Christ called Nicodemus Master as thou wouldest faine slander him neither doth that Act. 5.34 prove that Luke gave Gamaliel the name of Doctor but in way of declaration what he was accounted amongst the Jewes as any that reades with understanding may see yea thou thy selfe canst not deny it but that thou would'st be glad of any thing to shelter thy deceipt but Christ expresly forbids his to be be called Master and therefore it is concluded that you take these names unto your selves from an arrogancy and pride of Spirit that you might be Idolized as is well knowne how you swell and are puffed up in wrath and rage if you be not so called by those you account your inferiors or else you would not own it being Christ hath so expresly forbidden it to his Ministers and you professing your selves to be his Ministers the word Minister signifies servant Paul who was his Minister said he made himselfe servant to all but you would be Masters over all 1 Cor 9.19 bearing rule by your meanes though hired as Servants yet more unreasonable unjust for you will have it of them you do no work for and also whatsoever thou saist Doctor or Master signifies Christ hath forbidden it and therefore in useing of it thou art out of the doctrine of Christ and the woe is unto thee and the more for wresting the Scripture to maintaine it and uphold it which Christ hath cried down and it is well knowne to them that are not wilfully blind that Master or Doctor are names that are given and taken amongst you Clergy-men as you call your selves as Titles of honour witnesse your degrees in your Nurseries of deceipt which you call Vniversities as first Bachellor then from Bachellor to Master of Arts and from that to Bachellor of Divinity and from that to Doctor of Divinity which highest Title is given to thee and therefore it is no wonder that thou so pleads for it but the least Child of light will judge these traditions to be upheld by the Pride and arrogancy of the flesh that would be Idolized but the old man must needs plead for his life neither doth these Scriptures in Eph. 4.11 and 1 Cor. 12.38 at all advantage thee for neither Doctor nor Master is mentioned in these Scriptures and thus thou art ignorant of the letter then far unfit to be a teacher of others which thou dost assume to thy selfe by the name of Doctor according to thy own meaning And as for the cheife seates in the synagogues and uppermost roomes at feasts P. Ans some thou saist that are worthy were allowed them by Christ himselfe which to prove thou quotes Lnk. 14.7.8 c. Mark 5.22 And by Luke Ast. 13.15 and Chap. 18.8.17 and as for salutations they are allowed thou saist as well in the market places as any where else This is the truest word that thou hast yet spoken in one respect though from a false Spirit Reply for your heathenish customs and salutations are allowed-of no where by the Scripture neither hast thou brought any proofe to the contrary and it is also easily discerned you rather chuse them in the markets or in Pudlique to be seene of men that you might be accounted Courteous and looked upon for your breeding witnesse your congying and bowing with your hats off in admiration and Idolizing of one anothers persons wherein you exalt your selves above the Angel who would not suffer John to bow unto him Rev. 22.8.9 but said he was his fellow servant therefore let this judge you and condemn you in these practises which by you are used from an ambitions and an in ordinate desire of them and therefore are the most unworthy as thou confessest the Scribes and Pharises were and therefore art out of thy own mouth judged 1 John 5.19 although thou wold'st cast it upon the Quakers as thou callest them but we can justly cleare our selves and cast it into thy own bosome for we use no such heathenish customs yet we can justly say with John we are of God and the whole world lieth in wickednesse which thou accounts an exhalting of our selves and in that thou belyest Christ and the Scriptures in saying he allowed these things to any which he cryed downe thy impudency doth the more appeare that thou wouldest not stick to bely us whom thou callest Quakers for none of these Scriptures which thou quotes to uphold the chiefest seates in the Synagogue uppermost roomes at feastes doth at all concerne the matter but onely Luk. 14.7 c. which Christ spoke as a parable to the Pharises who loved the uppermost roomes at feasts which also may fitly be applyed to you now who take the uppermost reome How thy 9th Query is answered Mat. 20.25 26 27. Jam. 12.

sayst judge ye for thou sayst you do not creep into the Churches who have the doores set wide open and have your Congregations or Assemblies publiquely called together by a Bell and then thou vents forth a deal of frothy stuffe and sayst why must your Houses of Lime and stone be called Steeple-houses more then the Glaziers Hall or the Bull and Mouth neare Aldersgate be called a Glasse-house a Chimney-house or a Store-house or a Stable-house but thou askest where did Christ or his Apostles reproach the Synagogues with reproachful names as we do your Churches Here thy malitious and scornful spirit is much more made manifest Reply together with thy folly and ignorance so that I am able to judge thee and the rest of the Parish Preachers to be those creepers into houses that Paul there speaks of 2 Tim. 3.6.7 who have led silly women and people captive these many years full of sin and led away with divers lusts who some have learned 40. years some 50. some 60. yea some 80. and yet strangers to the truth yea as blinde and carnall as ever they was so that they take a House of Lime and stone for a Church and a House of God as you have taught and aske them why they call it so and they will answer it was called so before they was born and will be after they were dead then judge ye whether these Creatures be not blind and carnall and led by your own Customs and traditions and you are their Teachers who would bear rule in your Steeple-houses so that none shall speak but your selves if they do you have a Law to lay upon them contrary to the order of the true Church as in 1 Cor. 14.30 31 32. That all might speak one by one and if any thing be revealed to him that stands by let the first hold his peace but this is called disorder amongst you that call your selves Saints and are not but the Synagogue of Satan and by thy own Confession are led together by a Bell for which you have no Rule in the Scripture and so you lead them by Custom and Tradition and also thy own words here proves what I said in my last Reply that you do not call your Assemblies and the place where your Assemblies meets both by one for here thou callest the place a Church and the people the Congregation as I said before and thou blinde guide where dost thou read in the Scripture of Church-doores be ashamed and blush thus to presume in thy blasphemy and therefore how soever thou have taken these houses to be wherein deceivers creeps as before is proved and have taught the people so to put them out of jealousie of you to be the deceivers doth not at all excuse you from it for the Apostle himself taught in private houses and Chambers and private places Act. 20.20 and therefore by that account thou would tax the Apostle to be a deceiver if he was here as thou dost James Parnel and those whom thou scornfully calls his gang but where dost thou finde such a word in the Scripture which proceeds out of thy malitious and evill heart but thy reproaches unto us are riches and thy shame And the Reason why those Houses near Aldersgate which thou so spits thy venom at because the people of God have used to meet there may not be called as thou in contempt dost terme them as well as your Stone-houses be called Steeple-houses is because they have names fitting for them already for to distinguish them from other places and so also the word Steeple-house is the fittest name to distinguish your meeting places from others and also to take from them that holy name which only belongs to the body of Christ and also to wear out that Idolatry of the peoples mindes which they through long Custom have born to those Idolatrous places neither do we any more reproach them in so saying then Christ and his Apostles did in calling the Jews meeting places Synagogues though thou highly dishonourest Christ in calling them Churches which signifies his body Have you no other names to bestowe upon your stone houses and high places but most blasphemously to call them by the name of God's and holy men whom you are not worthy to name as you call your Colledges which are Synagogues of Satan and Cages of unclean Birds by the name of Immanuel and by the name of Christ and Trinity and the like if you had called them by the name of Glaziers Hall or Bull and Mouth or Synagogue and the like we should not gainsay it and therefore in this the Jews will condemn you who did not presume to call their meeting places by such holy names as you presumptuously do which is and hath been a great provocation of the people to Idolatry to idolize the places because of their names which was given to them by the Papists who ignorantly worship names and you cast out the Papists for Idolatry and yet upholds their Idolls therefore woe unto you blinde guides and deluders of the people your wickedness is had in remembrance before the Lord. Whether it was the practice of the Apostles to take a Text of the Prophets words Que. 19. and from thence to raise uses points Traills and motives as thou and such as thou dost who makes a Trade of their words And in thy Answer P. Ans thou sayst that it hath been the practice of the Church and her Teachers this many hundred years for the which thou hast no Scripture proof and thirdly thou sayst that none will deny that this is an useful and profitable way of teaching which is an abominable lie which I and hundreds more can testifie against And fourthly thou sayst it may be proved out of the Scriptures that all this hath been done by Christ and his Apostles which is another lie and those are the Scriptures upon which thou wouldst ground thy lies in which they will witness against thee as Luk. 4.18 and Mat. 22.31 Act. 8.35 and for to maintain thy uses points Trialls and motives thou quotes Rom. 15.4.2 Tim. 3.16.17 John 8.31 and 13.35 and Matth. 25.34 Oh thou lier Reply thy lies will not cover thee nor the Scripture stand for thee who art found out of the life and practice of them that gave them forth who art one of the lying false Teachers who have deluded the people this many hundred years Col. 2.8 which deluded ones are your Church amongst whom you have used your Philosophy and vain deceipt by which you have long spoiled them so that the greatest part of the professors therein are earthly minded by thy own confession and I am sure that another part are Drunkards and swearers and Adulterers and scoffers and scorners and proud and envious ones and the like and now where is the fruits and profitableness of your teaching therefore for shame stop thy mouth for boasting of your Church and her teachers and saying None

there is for selfe and not for God for he saith in vain do you worship him Mat. 15.7 8 9. and here thy 51. Query is answered but take notice your Steeple-houses are not the houses of God as before is proved Is it unlawful to call either Baptisme Que. 52. or the Supper of the Lord a Sacrament or obliging Mystery since that name imports no more and you cannot deny but that both these are mystical things and obliging mysteries to the washing away of sin and the following of Christ into his life death Is thy Baptisme now become an obliging Mystery to the washing away of sin Answ which in thy Answer to my 21. Query thou said was not absolutely necessary but lawfull onely can it wash away sin and yet not be necessary but this is all thou knowest of that mystery that washeth away sin or deire after it for where sin is washed away this confusion stayes not behinde Yea I do deny that there is any thing in your sprinkling Infants or your Bread and Wine which doth profit as is manifest by these that receive them of you who never yet was washed from their sins and pollutions or ever tasted of the death of the Crosse 1 Cor. 12.13 but the Baptisme I own and the Supper of the Lord I owne but the word Sacrament I deny for the which you have no Scripture whatsoever thou sayst it doth import And thy 53.54 55. Queries are answered in my Reply to thy Answer to my 21. Query and thy 56. and 57. Queries are answered in my Reply to thy Answer to my 25. Query Who is there among you who are called Quakers Que. 58. or the other Sectarians your fore-fathers that hath rightly declared the mystery of Christs body and blood in your dissentings from us since none of you have declared this according to our Lords intent John 6.33 As for Sectarians as thou callest them they are in your Generation Ans and art not thou ashamed to call them our fore-fathers when as they now joyn with you against us yea and in this very thing wherein they are blinde as you are but the mystery we know and have declared to the comfort of many a restless soul who never could finde true comfort in your dark and dead forms as thousands in the Nation will witness and this we have declared according to our Lords intent therefore thou lier and slanderer stop thy mouth and take not his name in vain and that Scripture in John 6.33 which thou hast quoted will witness against thee in that thou wouldest uphold and thy 59. Query is answered with thy 56. 57. And thy next is concerning the present Ministers and Teachers and their maintenance Were there no Ministers in this Nation Qu. 60. that held forth the truth amongst us till you and your associates rose up since we have our Lords promise the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against the Church and be hold I am with you to the end of the world What is become then of all your fore-fathers Que. 61. theirs and ours who died since the Apostles dayes till your rising up with a pretended spirit Thou carnall one Answ hast thou nothing to do but to raise the dead to dispute about but to answer a fool I say they are gone as the just and righteous Judge hath disposed but now he calles all every where to repent his Trumpets are sounding a warning and there was none that preached for hire that held forth the truth in the life and power of it but made a Trade and gain of the Letter from it speaking a divination of their own brain as you do now and those was your fore-fathers but if you had the Lords promise that the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against you for the Lord will be with you then what need you a Law of man to set you up uphold you and maintain you therefore it follows the Lord is against you and his promises doth not belong unto you who dare not trust him and therefore are but pretenders and this the spirit of truth in us can tell you If there were some taught of God before you were called Que. 62. why are they not owned by any of you Thou art not one that art so taught for thou art found out of his Doctrine therefore with that stop thy mouth and do not bely us for who receive and obey the truth we do own whatsoever they have been and here also thy 63 and 64. Query is answered And thy 65.66 67. Queries are answered in my Reply to thy Answer to my 9. 10th Query Ans Is the teaching Priesthood to cease Que. 68. till the spirituall Melchizedeck come unto us to blesse us after the slaughter of all our enemies with the heavenly bread and wire Gen. 14.18.19 Heb. 2.1 2 3. that you say the Priesthood of Aaron with the Law annexed of Tithes is ceased under the Gospel Yea so it is ceased and those Scriptures doth not prove to the contrary but that in Heb. 7. doth affirm it Answ 〈…〉 before proved but in that you uphold it in taking Tithes you deny the spiritual Melehizedeck and if that be the teaching Priesthood which thou meanest it is already ceased to many who are come to see the end of it but the gift blinde your eyes and therefore you still uphold it and lead the blindes into the ditch and so the woe is to you and not the blessing and this Scripture in Eph. 4.11 12. c. doth not at all maintain you and here also thy 69. Query is answered And thy 70.71.72 73. Queries are answered in my Reply to thy Answer to my 14th Query Did ever the Church of Rome cast greater reproaches upon the Protestant Ministers Que. 74. then you do and are you not Jesuited by some of her Emisseries that you would have them all one with another rooted out at once yea can the Devil himself desire more in this kinde I see no difference in the ground betwixt the Church of Rome and you Answ for they are bloody persecuters and upheld by a persecuting Law and so are you who call your selves Protestants and therefore no reproaches to call you persecuters hirelings false Teachers and greedy Doggs as the Prophets of old called your fore-fathers in whose steps you are found as is before proved but howsoever thou with thy lying spirit termest us of the Jesuites both thou and thy Brethren have in this been sufficiently proved lyars therefore by the sword of the Lord you must all be rooted out yea ye must all fall together Zach. 13.7 Ezek. 21.91.10 11. he will make a grievous slaughter from the least to the greatest for his hand is stretched out against you and therefore your Father the Devil bestirs himselfe amongst you to stand up for his Kingdom and where did ever the Church of Rome persecute any sparing the

was himselfe but a youth as Paul writes 1 Tim. 4.11.12 and there read thy rebuke Where did Christ or his Apostles send forth women to be publique prophetesses as you have don many and some of them not long since infamous for lewdnesse of life Qu. 86. Oh thou impudent one Answ how dost thou provoke the Lord to indignation against thee that darst lay any such thing to the Charge of Gods elect oh thou lier whom dost thou accuse of lewdnesse we abhor thy words for all lewdnesse and prophanesse we testify against wheresoever it doth appeare or any thing contrary to the pure divine light which now in thy conscience and many other consciences doth here witnesse for us against thee who art given up to beleivelies and report them therefore read thy portion in Rev. 21.8 and read an answer to thy Querie in Joel 2.28 where the Lord saith the sons and Daughters shall prophesy Rom. 16.1.2.3.4 and none other do we own but who immediately are caried forth by the Spirit of the Lord without the commission of man therefore thou falsly accusest us who saist we send forth any If you be extraordinary Prophets immediatly inspired as many of you pretend to be Qu. 87. where are the miracles which such inspired men wrought in times past But that we are so inspired thou dost not beleive Ans as may easily be discerned by thy Querying and therefore unto thee no signe shall be given who art in the adulterous generation who cannot see the signes that follow the truth Math. 16.4 What have you foretold by way of praediction Qu. 88. which hath accordingly come to passe as the Prophets Apostles and inspired men were wont to do If thou canst tax us to the contrary thou maist Answ we beare not witnesse of our selves but he that beleives hath the witnesse within himself And as for thy 89.90.91 and 92. Queries they are answered in my reply to thy answer to my 16. Querie and thy 93. Querie is answered in my answer to thy Query concerning Salutations Whether is a multitude of disciples and followers Que. 94. sure figne that his doctrine is from heaven who is followed seeing the way is broad that leads to destruction and many there be that find it and thou quotest Math. 7.13 and 2 Pet. 2.22 Many are called but few chofen Answ and many for a time followed Christ so that the ruler said if we let this fellow alone all men will goe after him which is the cry of you and your rulers now against the messengers of truth and hast thou never read of the multitudes that followed Christ but few there be that enter Iohn 11.48 Mat. 7.14 because strate is the Gate but devide England into parts and see if the greatest number belong not unto you who are in the broad way your lives preach you forth therefore now thou should have first asked thy self this Query and said Is it I and so have laid thy hand upon thy mouth Seeing this age is earthly-minded and willing to serve God Qu. 95. with that which costs them nothing contrary to the pious and noble spirit of David 2 Sam. 24.24 is it any great wonder that your doctrine against Tithes should find so many willing yea greedy entertayners of it as it hath done since it was first broached The more is your shame who are teachers in this age that are so earthly-minded Answ who have so long taken their monies for that which is not bread and their labour for that which profiteth not Isa 55.2 do you not herein manifest your selves to be such as run and the Lord never sent you Ier. 23.21.22.32 and therefore you profit not the people at all but they are still earthly-minded how have you then sowne spirituall things but I shall prove that the earthly-minded ones still stick unto you for you have a law made by the will of man so that if they refuse to pay you and forsake you then by it you cast them into prison and by your law take treble damage and this they know and therefore consult with their earthly mindes that it is better to pay the lesser then the greater there is much difference betwixt servings God and your bellies though the lesser is a greater oppression and thus mank deny the truth though they are convinced in their consciences thereof therefore that which leads any from you to take up this crosse to own the truth and deny you of Tithes the same crucifies the earthly mind and leade to suffer for conscience And the noble Spirit of David condemnes you for whereas he refused upon gift you will take upon gift and if they will not give it you you will take it by force therefore this Scripture affords witnesses against you but hereby thou confessest our doctrine costs them nothing then how said'st thou before that James Parnels Gospel was not without charge and thus out of thy own mouth art thou proved a liar Did ever Christ or the Apostles disturb the Priests and Ministers of these times Qu. 96. while they were teaching the people as many of you and yours have done Both the Prophets Christ and the Apostles Answ declared against the deceivers false Prophets Mat. 24.24 Ier. 23. Ezek. 34. Ioh. 10. Ier. 5.31 false Priests and Hirelings and the Apostles was haled out of the Synagogues and out of the Temple as Christ told them John 16.2 as we by the same spirit do now against you whom we finde in the same steps and here thou art answered if this be it thou callest disturbance but it is because you would bear rule by your means and suffer nothing to be published that is against you or strikes at your Diana Doth the Gospel ordinarily call any man from his lawful Calling Qu 97. whereby he should maintain himself and his Family and thou quotest 1 Cor. 7 20. Eph. 4.28 Yea it doth and the Scripture holds forth the same that they was ordinarily called from their outward Callings Answ to preach the Gospel to every Creature Amos. 7.14.15 Mark 16.15 Math. 4.18.19.20.21.22.23 neither doth either of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted prove to the contrary how many Scriptures didst thou quote in thy Answer to my 15th Query to prove that the Ministers of the Gospel might forbear working and not to entangle themselves with the affairs of this life yet in all could not prove thy selfe a Minister of the Gospel and now thou questions the truth of the Scripture because neither thou nor thy Brethren was called according to Scripture but whomsoever the Lord calls unto his work he doth take care both for him and his Family but you that are not called by him dare not trust him without a Law of man And in thy 98. 99. Query 2. Thes 3. Mat. ●8 7 thou seems to accuse us with some that turned from the truth