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A65838	The authority of the true ministry in baptizing with the spirit, and the idolatry of such men, as are doting about shadows and carnal ordinances, and their ignorance of the spirits baptism (of which, water baptism was but a figure) discovered : and herein is shewed, that water baptism is neither of necessity to salvation, nor yet is it now practiced either by authority from heaven, or by any New-Testament-law that is in force upon believers, seeing the substance, and the end of things abolished is come and enjoyed, wherein the types, shadows and fingers, are ended : being a short return to a book entituled, A reply to a scandalous paper, subscribed by one Samuel Bradley, a Baptist teacher, as concerning a dispute that was between some of the people called Quakers, and some Baptists in South-warke.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1660 (1660)	Wing W1892; ESTC R19780	16,493	18

continue till the end of the World according to his account he hath denyed that the Saints are yet come to the second coming of Christ to Salvation wherein he hath discovered his ignorance of Christs appearance and Salvation and so would keep the Saints under shadows and from the Substance all their life time When as the coming of Christ in the flesh wherein he was offered to bear the Sins of many Heb. 9. 28. was one coming and his appearance in Spirit to save his people from sin is another coming which they that truly looked for did receive and they that yet have that his coming to look for and waite for it he shall so appear to their Salvation Sam. Bradley saith of the QVAKERS The first thing they mention as the Captain General of their manifold untruths that Sam. Bradly a Baptist Teacher affirmed That the Baptism of the Spirit was Metaphorically spoken of in that place 1 Cor. 12. 13. and that the baptism of water was intended To which I say herein hath he wronged our words and falsified our sayings for we said that S. B. affirmed touching 1 Cor. 12. 13. That the baptism of the Spirit there spoken of was metaphorical but the baptism of water was intended And S. B. then Replies thus viz. I did not nor do not affirm that the Baptism of the Spirit was metaphorically spoken of in 1 Cor. 12. 13. And that the baptism of water was there intended Therefore I would advise these men for to learn to speak the Truth Answ. We have affirmed no untruth against thee S. B. for what we said of thee in that particular mentioned was that thou saidst that the Baptism of the Spirit was metaphorical but the baptism of water was intended and this is notoriously known by many that thou affirmedst it upon our urging that 1 Cor. 12. 13. and one of thy brethren sought to vindicate thee in it when thou wast baffled about it as counting that the Apostle spoke metaphorically in that 1 Cor. 12. about the body and the members which was nothing to the purpose also it was several times upon thy assertion asked thee What the Baptism of the Spirit was a Metaphor or a Figure of if it was Metaphorical as thou saidst about which thy mouth was plainly stopt it was so often in the Meeting cast upon thee that thou discovers an exceeding impudent lying spirit in thee now to deny it and to say that what we said of thee about it is altogether untrue as thou sayest About which I could produce several witnesses who know that thou hast spoken absolute falshood in this thing and let the Reader mark thy silly shuffling in this thing thou sayest Thou didst not neither dost affirm that the baptism of the Spirit was metaphorically spoken of in that place 1 Cor. 12. 13. which implyes then that thou hast counted it metaphorical in some other place though not in that place but where ever any true Minister counted the Spirits baptism metaphorical and water baptism intended that thou hast not shewn so its evident that in thy blindnesse thou hast set water baptism above the baptism of the Spirit and so hast made an Idoll of it as also doth appear where thou sayest thus viz. S. B. I did say the Apostle in Ephes. 4. Spake of one Lord one Faith and one Baptism which these men brought in opposition to water baptism to it I made this Answer thou sayest This is not exclusive for there be Lords many as you may see 1 Cor. 8. 5. And yet but one Lord Jesus and we read of divers Baptismes as of affliction Luk. 12. 50. 2dly The Baptism of the Spirit which is spoken of in Acts 2. 3dly The Baptism of water as in Acts 8. and 10. and yet there is but one properly so called to wit that of water Also thou sayst we instance three Baptismes in Scripture and prove one properly so called Ans. If there be so many Baptismes and yet but one propely called baptism which is the Baptism of water then from this it follows that the baptism of the Spirit or the baptism by which the Saints were saved was not properly called Baptism and this would charge the Apostles with speaking improperly or falsly when they spoke of the Baptism by which they were saved or of their being all baptised by one Spirit into one Body And thus this said Baptist's falshood and folly appears who here also counteth the one Baptism spoken of in Eph. 4. the Baptism of water and so hath shut out the baptism of the Spirit as not properly called Baptism and Idollatrously hath set water baptism above it when as the baptism of the Spirit was that which water baptism did but shadow or figure forth for by one Spirit were the Saints baptised into the body of Christ which the baptism of outward water doth not baptise any into for such as uphold water baptism now are in the strife and much in devision when as they who are baptised into the body of Christ are in unity Though thus far we say of water baptism that in its time it was a Command from heaven to John which was in the time of the Law and the least in the Kingdome was greater than John who decreased and in the time of that baptismes decreasing it was used by some of the Apostles in their freedome for the sake of some that were weak or young in the truth and not wholly redeemed out of the state that such carnall or weak ordinances related to which were upheld in the time of the Churches infancy But when the carnall minds of some ran into these outward things and something got up in the minds of the Corinthians to lead them too much to stick in them the Apostle Paul tells them That Christ sent him not to baptise but to preach the Gospel 1 Cor. 1. 17. and yet Pauls Commission was as large as any of the Apostles was for he was not behinde the very chief Apostles and shunned not to declare all the councell of God Act. 20. 27. And whereas S. Bradley instanceth as his paralel That there be Lords many and yet but one Lord Jesus for the divers Baptismes he speaks of as of affliction the baptism of the Spirit the baptism of water and yet but one properly so called to wit that of water To this I say herein hath he discovered his gross darknesse and false comparison which will not hold paralel for it 's as if he had said there be Lords many and Gods many yet to us but one true God and so there are many baptismes as the baptism of affliction the baptism of the Spirit and the baptism of water yet to us there is but one true baptism to wit the baptism of water and the other as that of affliction and the baptism of the Spirit are false baptismes and not properly so called For the many Gods and many Lords or that are called Gods are in the world where

the false Gods are And thus S. B's folly and Idolatrous Spirit is seen in his so confusedly setting up water baptism above the baptism of the Spirit and so he is not at all fit for Jehovah's work indeed S. B. Saith The ordinance of water baptism was Commanded to be performed in so sollemne a manner as no ordinance in all the new Testament In the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost which notes the great honour Christ puts upon this ordinance Answ. I tell you this Baptist doth make an Idoll of water baptism when he hath said all he can for he hath here set it above all the ordinances of the New Testament but he hath apparently in this preached false doctrine for preaching the Gospel was an ordinance of the New Testament and it was done in the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost as well as baptising seeing the Disciples were commanded to teach or disciple all Nations baptising them into the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost so that Teaching was commanded to be done in as sollemn a manner as Baptizing for both Teaching and Baptizing into the Name of the Father c. were performed by the power of God which the Disciples of Christ were indued with and which wrought by them who were made instruments in that work of baptizing into the Name of God and Christ c. And whereas I charged S. B. and his brethren with being ignorant of the baptism of the Spirit he to prove that he is not ignorant of that baptism answers thus viz. S. B. I do demand what they mean by the baptism of the Spirit c. If by the baptism of the Spirit they mean the Spirit that doth bear witnesse that we are the Sons of God we do experinence it and are not ignorant of it Ans. What is this man but ignorant of the baptism of the Spirit when you may see here he cannot distinguish between the Spirit and the baptism of it for if by the baptism of the Spirit we mean the Spirit that doth bear witness they do experience it he saith Did you ever hear such a doctrine before that the baptism of the Spirit is the Spirit as if he had said the work that is wrought is the worker of it and thus whilst they are doting about outward shadowes and signes they are confounded and blinded that they see not the substance nor understand the work of the Spirit which baptizeth into Christ and into his Name which is his Word by which salvation comes which is a working of men into the power and life to which they are discipled and led in the preaching of the Gospell S. B. The gift of tongues is called in Scripture the baptizm of the Spirit see Act. 1. 5. again he saith we do not deny but acknowledge that we are baptized by one Spirit into one body Ans. In this he hath rested the scripture and spoken falsly for the gift of tongues is not called the baptism of the Spirit but the gift of it now the baptism of the Spirit was a work of it by which the Saints were all baptised into one body many of whom had not the gift of tongues for it was onely a proper gift to some and as for the baptists saying they are all baptized by one Spirit into one body and yet hath called the gift to tongues the baptism of the Spirit which he hath acknowledged they are ignorant of herein he would make two baptismes of the Spirit when as the Apostle said there is one Faith and one Baptisme Eph. 4. 5. and thus he sheweth his ignorance of the baptism of the Spirit and so is not worthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH as he hath confessed S. B. We need not require an immediate Call or Authorithy from heaven to preach and baptize in as much as we have a sufficient call or warrant granted us by Christ himselfe on earth which doth plainly appeare in the Commission it self the Disciples being Commissioned c. Answ. What falshood and confusion is here For both the Papists and the hireling Priests and others whom the Baptists themselves have declared against do pretend as much for their call to preach and baptize as this baptist hath done who hath pretended the Commission which the Disciples of Christ had to be his warrant or call to preach and baptize when as he never had any immediate Call or Authority from heaven to either and so he never had any Call or Authority from God either to preach or baptize Which is like as if that the false Prophets had said the Commission which the true Prophets had to preach did Authorize and warrant them to preach also What deceiver cannot get such a deceitfull cloak as this so it 's evident that this S. Bradley is one of these deceivers who runs and the Lord never sent him and speaks when the Lord hath not spoken to him and that commission Mat. 28. which the Disciples of Christ received from him was given by Authority from heaven upon which this S. B. doth so much build and falsly argue and it doth not warrant them to baptize with water neither for it was to baptize into the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost which Name many do professe in words who are yet out of it as this Baptist is And whereas I said to these Baptists that they practise baptism by immitation and carnall tradition without a command from Christs mouth for it To this S. B. Replies in these words viz. S. B. Let those men put a stop unto their lying tongues for fear vengeance suffer them not to live c. I demand then the meaning of these pretious words that drop out of the sweet lips of our Lord Jesus in the Commission that he gave unto his Disciples Go teach all Nations baptizing them c. Answ. Oh! how Ignorant and full of gross darkness it self art thou S. Bradley Surely thou mayest read these words to the Disciples in the Scripture Go teach all Nations baptizing them and yet never hadst any command from Christs mouth for to baptize with water as the Jewes read the Scriptures without who had neither heard the voice of God at any time nor seen his shape and such art thou who hast neither any immediate Call or Authority from Heaven to preach and therefore hast neither Call nor Authority from God either to Preach or Baptize and yet thou wouldest be counted a Minister of Christ so its time for thee to stop thy mouth for thou art one of them who are presumptuous who take upon them to speak in the name of the Lord whom he hath not sent nor commanded and such God will cut off Deut. 18. 20. S. B. I do affirm that the Baptism spoken of in the Commission in the 28. of Matthew and the 16. of Mark is the Baptizm of Water and for proof S. B. Argues thus It is not the Baptizm of the Spirit because this

Baptism is Commanded but the Baptizm of the Spirit was never Commanded nor was it any mans sin not so to be baptized therefore it cannot be meant the Baptizm of the Spirit and to this S. B. adds this Lye That we did not answer at al to this Argument Ans. This Argument is both False and Grounded upon a falshood and in it he hath confuted himselfe for mark that he hath owned That they lay no stress for Salvation upon water Baptizm neither is it of necessity unto Salvation But that Baptism which Christ Commanded in Mat. 28. and Mark 16. is of necessity unto Salvation for by it they were to Baptize men into the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost Now without being Baptized into this Name a man cannot be saved for by no other Name under heaven comes Salvation but by the Name of Jesus who is a Saviour of the people from their sins Mat. 1. 21. Act. 4. 12. and Christ said he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved Mark 16. 16. So that there is stress or necessity upon this Baptism which Christ commanded for Salvation but so is there not upon water baptism as these Baptists confesse and therefore it was not water baptism but the spirituall baptism which was an effect of the Gospell which is the power of God which the Disciples preached for thereby they turned people from Darknesse to Light and from the Power of Sathan unto God which is known in the Baptism of the Spirit And the Baptism by which the Saints were saved was not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good Conscience 1 Pet. 3. 21. And whereas he saith That it was not any mans sin not to be baptized with the Spirit in this he hath spoken falsly for when men resist the Spirit of God and refuse to be led or baptized by it when it is tendred to them then it is their sin as it was the Lawyers sin to frustrate the Councell of God within themselves not being baptized of John when his Baptism was in its time a Command from heaven much more is it a sin in men now to resist the spirit of God and thereby to reject it's baptism S. B. If any should be so weak to say this baptism here viz. in Mat. 28. is meant the baptism of the Spirit I demand once more of them to shew me when and where the Disciples did obey this Command Answ. They did obey it when they Discipled and Baptised men into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost when they Ministred the Spirit and turned men from darkness to light and a Testimony of this was manifest when the Holy Ghost fell on them that heard the Disciples Preach who were Instruments with whom God wrought when they had received power from on high and they were sent into the world as Christ was sent into the world Joh. 17. 18. who baptised with Fire and with the Holy Ghost and in the same Power and Spirit they went forth Preaching and Baptising people into the Word of God which is the Name of Christ Rev. 19. 13. And moreover Peter said as I began to speak the Holy Ghost fell on them as on us at the beginning then Remembered I the Word of the Lord how that he said John indeed baptised with water but ye shall be baptised with the Holy Ghost Acts 11. 16. which doth plainly evidence That that Power or Holy Ghost accompanied the Disciples Ministry that did so baptise men which was the end of Johns Baptism in which work the True Ministers were Instruments not of themselves but by Christ the power of God in them so that their Gospel went forth in Spirit and in Power S. B. We can prove that some were baptized with water after they had received the Holy Ghost Acts 10. 46. And if these poor Creatures were not hardned in their Apostacy how might such a plain example or instance as this ingage them unto obedience Answ. How poorly do these Baptists Argue for Water Baptism to Continue who having denyed any immediate Call or Authority from Heaven either to Preach or Baptise as this Baptist hath done now would make an Example a Law to engage us to be baptised when as there are many Examples that are no Lawes so that you may see these Baptists do not baptise by any Authority from Heaven and so serve not in the newness of the Spirit but meerly Act by Tradition and their Carnal Imitations without and then why do they not as well Circumcise keep the Passover Purify in the Temple all abstein from Blood and things strangled and command men to keep the Law and shave their Heads c For there are as plain examples for the observing and doing these things from some of the Apostles Command and example after that baptising with water was spoken of Acts 10. 46. see Acts 15. 2 6 7 20 16. 3. 18. 18. 21. 24 25 24. 18. and the Apostles example of observing these things for a time hinders them not from ending in Christ as S. B. falsly intimates that water baptism ends not in Christ because it was practised after his Assention in like manner might he as well have pleaded for Circumcision outward offerings purifying in the Temple the like to continue because they were practised after Christs Assention But as people who had a zeal for these outward Figures grew into the Substance and Life wherein they ended that they were able to bear the denying of them the Apostles Preached the end of them and refused to be in bondage to them again S. B. There be two things to be considered 1st That he must be a Teaching Disciple 2d No more is required but a Teaching Disciple Answ. Which is all one as if he had said the two things required is 1st a Teaching Disciple and 2d a Teaching Disciple what no●cense is here this is but one thing And again if no more be required but a Teaching Disciple then it is not required that a Disciple should baptise with water and thus he throws all his other Doctrines for the continuing of water baptism in the dust and confounds himself S. B. Let these men know that water Baptism is a lively Representation of the Death Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Answ. Where provest thou that S. B this is sure an Imagination of thy own for how can your plunging people in water be a lively Representation of the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ sure you are not so long dead in the water when you are plunged in it as Christ was dead as concerning the flesh who was raised the third day by the Power of the Father and it is that power that baptised his people into his death and raiseth them up in the likeness of his Resurrection and not outward water touching which that which this S. B. hath affirmed it is as foolish as a Baptist Teacher's

affirming to me that the Baptism of water did baptise men into the death of Christ Again if what thou sayest were granted which it is not that which you Baptists do so greatly strive for in your contending so hard for water baptism which you trake such an Idoll of is but to bring people into a Representation of things which while there minds stick in that they come short of the Power and Life whereby the one baptisms into the body is known of which the outward baptismes at the most were but shaddows or figures which were to end in the Substance S. B. Where did the Disciples of Christ give the Spirit unto any seeing it was the work of Christ alone to baptise with the Spirit Answ. In Answer to this I alledged John 14. 12. He that believeth on me the works that I do he shall do also and greater works than these saith Christ and Gal. 3. 3 5. to prove that the Disciples Ministred the Spirit who were Ministers of the Spirit to this the Baptist Replyes in these words viz. S. B. I humbly conceive that some Scriptures are not to be taken litterally as they are laid down as for instance in the 13. verse of this Chapter it is said That whatsoever ye ask the Father in my Name that will I do yet God intends to give us the answer of no Prayer but that prayer that comes up according to his will Answ. If Christs Words in John 14. 12 13. be not to be taken as they are laid down as this Baptist plainly Intimates then from this it follows that Christ spoke not right or true and therefore this S. B. with his own conception who is but in his conceivings would amend or correct what Christ hath said and yet he hath no Authority from Heaven for it Who is it that will believe his deceit and absurdity herein again his Instancing Christs saying Whatsoever ye ask the Father in my Name that will I do as not to be taken as it is laid down and for his proof saying that God intends to give us the Answer of no Prayer but the Prayer that 's according to his will This also Implyes that Christ spoke not truly as if something the Disciples might ask in his Name which was not according to the will of God and which was not to be answered when as it was the Disciples of Christ that asked in his Name and they asking in that Name they asked in the Word of God Rev. 19. and this could not be contrary to the will of God Again the Baptist to prove that Christs words in John 14. 12. are not to be taken as they are laid down saith S. B. Christ speaks generally he that believeth on me the works that I do he shall do and greater works than these this cannot be understood in this sense that these men bring it for because there be some works that Christ did as he was the only Son of God which we cannot do Christ did perfect and compleat the work of Redemption for us by his death and Sufferings upon the Cross Rep. To this I say what a silly shift is this as also what falsehood is in it for Christ said these words in John 14. 12. That he that believeth on him should do the works that he did before he suffered on the Cross and how was the work of Redemption perfected or compleated by that his suffering for thee S. B. and such as thou art when you are yet in bondage to your sinnes and to the Spirit of delusion which leads you to pervert the Scriptures as thou hast done But hadst thou proved that Christs work of baptising with the Spirit or any work tending to lead to it was by Christ excepted as not to be done by them that believed on him then thou hadst done what thou aimedst at and desired to do but that thou couldest not do seeing thy folly is so greatly manifest already in thy assaying it S. B. If water baptism be an Indifferent thing it may be done or it may be left undone Answ. What is it else but an indifferent thing when there is no stress for Salvation laid upon it neither is it of necessity to Salvation as these Baptists Confess And how can water baptism be of absolute necessity to obedience as this Baptist affirms when he cannot produce any express Law or Commission in force for it for where there is no Law there is no Transgression and Paul who was not behind the very cheif Apostles whose Commission extended as far as theirs He was not sent by Christ to baptise but to Preach the Gospel S. B. If the Church of Ephesus was a Church of Christ in Gospel order than they were baptised with water and we must be plunged or dipped in outward water if we do intend to walk according to the Rule of Christ and the Pattern of his House Answ. So then this Baptist Judgeth all to be out of the Church of Christ and out of the Gospel Order and out of the Rule of Christ who are not plunged or dipped in outward water and thus he owns none to be of the Church of Christ or in Gospel Order but a company of Baptists and yet they lay no stress for Salvation upon their water baptism so that men may be saved without it Now then the People of God that are saved who are not plunged or dipped in outward water hath this Baptist judged to be none of the Church of Christ nor in Gospel Order as if the Gospel Order consisted in peoples being plunged or dipped in outward water or as if that were the way to bring them into the Church of Christ and yet men may be saved without it Oh! what confusion and darkness hath this Baptist about this uttered And as for S. B's accusing us with casting durt in the Face of Christ as he did and to be led into a desperate Condition for to fly in the very face of God in his Holy appointments To this I say besides the falsehood of these two charges upon us what absurdity is intimated in them which is as if our opposing their baptising with water which they have no Authority from Heaven for were a flying in the very face of God as if the face of God were in water baptism which he counts the Holy Appointment wherein he shewes that he never saw the Face of God for as the Lord is departed from water baptism since it was practised in mens wills without any Authority from God and it hath been and is made an Idoll of neither the Face of God nor his Power is seen in it and where the Face of God is seen there is a further State enjoyed then that state which the outward Figures Related to for there the thing that was figured forth is enjoyed but the Face of God they see not who are seeking it in Carnal or Shaddowy things for it is spiritually discerned with a Spiritual eye And whereas Sam. Bradley