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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A86648	The common salvation contended for, and the faith which was once delivered to the saints· Or, An answer to a book called a plain answer to eighteen queries of Iohn Whitehead, put forth by William Kays, who calls himself minister of the Gospel at Stokesly; wherein he hath perverted the faith once delivered to the saints, and pleads for those things which the Scripture declares against, and so he is made manifest, not to be a minister of the everlasting Gospel, but preachesanother [sic] Gospel. The queries laid down, and the substance of his answer, with a reply to his answer. / By one who is a friend to all, who wait for the appearance of Iesus Christ without sin to salvation, known to the world by the name. Francis Howgill.	Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.	1655 (1655)	Wing H3155; Thomason E824_3; ESTC R18577	18,636	20

sins is of the Devil not that the Devil can claim him for his or that he is in the possession of the Devil for your gift is of Balaams nature and not of the nature of Pauls and so your reward will be as Balaams and not as Pauls who inherits the everlasting treasure for ever And further thou sayest but as to the point of taking Tythes which in respect of darkness and prejudice some Saints are herein unsatisfied and thou sayest we understand not our selves in judging from the Apostles example except we could prove by Scripture that the Apostles might have had Tythes or those Ministers which were like Timothy and Titus settled in a parochial way in their quarters might have had Tythes given them and yet refused them Reply They which are satisfied that they are Ministers of Christ which takes Tythes are indeed in darkness as thou speaks and unto all that fear God taking of ●ythes whether in paying or receiving will be prejudice and be it known unto thee and unto all such that we do understand our selves in judging thee and all such to be Antichrists and deceivers and false Prophets who acts and upholds those things which the deceivers and false Prophets acted in former generations and in seeking for your gain from your Quarter and in making merchandise of people through covetousness you make it manifest that you are such and so in the light which was in the Prophets and in the Apostles we see you and by it we judge you and by the example of the Apostles you may all be condemned who never took Tythes nor sought for their gain from their Quarter nor made merchandise of any through covetousness as you do and we tell thee plainly it is as true as the Scripture for by the same Spirit we speak that none of the Ministers of Christ nor his Apostle did take Tythes or wages of the world for preaching and this we can prove by the Scripture that the Apostles refused to take that which they might have had which was offered unto them and herein they shall judge you who not onely takes what men give you willing but compels some to pay against their will and that Timothy or Titus or any of the ministers of Iesus Christ was never settled in a parochial way in Quarters we do deny it and doth charge it upon thee to be a false accuser and a slanderer and a lyar upon Timothy and Titus and would make them as bad as thy self and the rest of the false Prophets and here let thy own conscience condemn thee for believing the holy men of God and speaking that of them which they were not to cloak and uphold thy own deceits abominations further thou sayest till then the light of the Apostles that took whatsoever was given them satisfies thy conscience to praise God for the Magistrate that doth freely give it unto thee and then brings the Apostles words they that preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel Reply The light in which the Apostles lived by which they were acted will for ever condemn thee except thou repent for by their example thou art judged already as it is manifested thy conscience is blinded by the god of the world and not satisfied by the light of Christ which was in the Apostles for if the light of the Apostles acted thee then would thou be found in their steps but be witness against thy self that thou art acted by that spirit which acted the false Prophets and false Apostles being thou art found in the same steps making merchandise of people and preaching for hire as they did which of the Apostles had any Law from any Magistrate to compel men to pay Tythes to them shew this by the Scripture if thou canst or else be a witness against thy self that thou lives not upon the Gospel For I know if you had not a Law to compel men to maintain you the Gospel which you preach and the people to whom you preach would starve you for maintenance this Scripture we own and do witness they that preach the Gospel shall live of the Gospel and doth without running to Magistrates to receive order from them to compel men to pay them XVI Query Shew me by the Scripture where ever any of the Ministers of Christ did give Davids Psalms to be sung of the people in a rime and if not thou acknowledgest that thou art in the inventions and traditions of men raised out from them all Answ. In thy answer unto this Query thou brings many Scriptures to prove singing some of which doth not at all prove any singing and none of them will prove the singing which thou pleads for which is a great company of proud and covetous and earthly minded persons to sing Davids words which they cannot witness but are enemies to the life of what he spoke for the world cannot sing praises unto God but you by your traditions cause men to sing lies that they are not puft in mind and that the Law of God is dear unto them and that every night water they their bed with tears when as they never witnessed these things though all this was true in David and as for that Scripture 2 Chron 29. where it was commanded of the Priests to sing the words of David and Asaph this was under the Law a figure as the Priests was a figure and from that Scripture you may as well prove the offering of sacrifice as singing but thou makes manifest thy ignorance and blindness hereby unto all the simple and many other Scriptures thou brings and the example of Christ and his Disciples and the example of the Churches which will not at all prove the singing of your assemblies which is onely by tradition and invention we do deny and bear testimony against it that it is not the singing to the praise of God but God is dishonoured by it and it shall all be turned into howling and bitterness and the time is at hand wherein the Iudgements of God shall be revealed against it for in the eternal light it is discovered to be abomination unto God and instead of singing you shall howle and lament the Lord hath said it and a great deal more rabble of stuff thou hast written to prove thy deceitful practice which I forbear to answer as not worth naming XVII Query Whether that wo which Christ pronounced against the Pharisees who were called of men Masters had the ceief place in the Assemblies and stood praying in the Synagogues do not abide upon thee who art called of men Masters hast the chief seat in the Assemblies stands praying in the Synagogue or how wilt thou justifie thy self in these practices seeing Christ is the same yesterday to day and for ever who cryed woe against them that lived in them Answ. Thou sayest thou doth not feare the woes pronounced against the Pharilees Reply It is because thy heart is hardened and thy mind is stiffnecked and rebellious

was truth and no lie and it guided them into all truth and here thou wouldst divide the Spirit of Christ from the Saints and here thy spirit is made manifest not to be that spirit which was in the Saints and which was in Christ but thy spirit is fallible that saith that infallible spirit disgraces the Ministery such a Minister thou art that a fallible spirit and a spirit of error is thy glory and therefore I say that spirit is not distinct from the Saints which was in Christ but one there is one spirit by which all the Ministers of Christ were guided and they were Ministers of the Spirit which was infallible and true and eternal and bore witness of him who was true and eternal and thou calst this a Popish tenent art raised out and judged by the Scripture not to have the same and so art no Minister nor witness of the infallible eternal spirit but speaks in thy own name And thou art accusing Iohn that he did wander as Iohn did in the Revelation thou saith and so would make Iohn a wandering star like thy self which Iude speaks of who art fallen into the earth out of the firmament and so would bring reproach upon him who witnessed the Spirit and was in the spirit and dwelt in it but thy shame is made manifest and now the eternal spirit is witnessed which is infallible and they will receive thy doctrine no longer for it is not wholsome but contrary to the Scripture II. Query Whether thou know the rules of Christ and whether thou wert immediately called by him to be a Minister or Pastor of the Gospel yea or no Answ. Thou saith so often as thou hast the word rightly divided in opening of the same in any Chapter or verse so often thou hast heard the the voice of Christ and thou sayest thou dost not deny the reaching of the spirit to be an extraordinary voice of Christ and that thou hast heard and so thou witnesses an immediate call and yet thou sayest our imperfect actions being made perfect by Christ thou witnesses an immediate call Reply Thou that tells of opening Chapters or Verses by meanings thou never heard the word of Christ and I say unto thee as Christ said to the Pharisees which had Moses and the Prophets they had neither heard his voice nor seen his shape and they which have not the word abiding in them never heard his word and therefore if thou never hear of God or from Christ but what is written without thee thou never yet heard his Word the Word of God endures for ever Chapters and Verses endures not for ever but thou art made manifest when thou canst not hear what is already writ nor receive it nor understand it without meanings and therefore brings their words down to thy reason and cals that the Word of God and thou calst the teachings of the spirit the extraordinary voice of Christ where reads thou in the Scripture of an ordinary and extraordinary voice of the spirit and here be a witness against thy self in thy answer to the fourth Query the fourth page of thy book to say thou had not known the spirit nor the anointing but by the Scripture and the Scripture is not the spirit and here thy immediate call is the like that which is visible and without thee is not immediate and here thou art tryed that thou knowest nothing at all but by hearsay and so thou art a falle witness and thou saith our imperfect actions are made perfect by Christ when that which is perfect is come imperfection is done away but that which thou calls thy imperfect actions he comes not to be perfect but to destroy but to thee is a mystery III. Query Whether the Word thou preachest is the same from the beginning which thou hast heard and seen and hast been taught immediately by the Revelation of Iesus Christ yea or no Answ. The Word that thou preaches is so muth the same thou saith from the beginning as a River is the same that runs continually from the fountain and as God is pleased to appear in his outward administrators Reply He who is the fountain is eternal which was in the beginning and before all things and endures for ever and they who witness him preach him and have seen him and tasted of the water of life which they were witness of Iohn the first but the River which thou drinkest is as the brooks of Teman spoken of in Iob and shall be dried up and as Euphrates that shall be dried up and the Kings of the East shall pass over it and the time is come already blessed be the Lord for ever but thy fountain at the best is but the letter without thee that was since the beginning and thy old Authors and thy carnal wisdom which is in the curse and this is thy highest attainments and thy administrations if thou hadst not had the letter without thee thou hadst not known such a thing and then where had all thy preaching been as in the fourth page of thy book thou mayest remember that thou saidst thou hadst not known God but by that others have left upon record and therefore cease from thy divining for thou canst not witness what thou speakest but as thou stealest others words IV. Query Whether ever any shall grow up under thy Ministery that they shall that no man teach them and whether thou own the anointing or had known there had been such a thing if the Scripture had not spoken of it yea or no Answ. Concerning thy Ministery there is no such promise thou sayest made to any mans Ministery Reply Here thou hast manifested thy Ignorance of the Ministery of Christ for they turned many from darkness to light and from Satan unto God and it was and is the very end wherefore the Ministers was sent forth for the perfecting of the Saints and to lead them from imperfection to persection and a perfect man in Christ Iesus and they were sent out for this end and are now sent out to direct all minds and the Apostle laboured and travelled that he might present them without spot or wrinkle unto God and in that thou saith there is no promise to the Ministry of man in that thou sayest truly but they which were Ministers of the Gospel they neither were learned of man nor had it from man and so thou acknowledgest thy Ministry to be of man and so art not a Minister of Christ but of Anti-christ and thou saith if the anointing should onely teach there would be no flock here thou art blind and knows nothing is not Christ the anointing and Christs sheep hear his voice and he putteth them forth and goeth before them and he leadeth his flock like a shepheard but thou that preaches for hire and divinest for money and they that follow thee are not of this flock and as concerning thy knowledge of the anointing thou saith thou mayest say as Paul said of

for as sure as Christ is the same for ever the same woe will be thy portion as was theirs which acts those things which they acted contrary to the command of Christ and further thou sayest Christ his Prophets and Apostles and as well as thy self were called Masters and Sirs Reply Christ was called Master and here he approved it and so he was and is even the one Master of all the Saints and their being called Master will not justifie thee in thy Pharisees steps for he saith Mat. 23. Be not ye called Master and thou mani●ests thy self to be an enemy to Christ who brings Scripture against his commands and this I ask thee or any whether you dare justifie that to be of God which Christ expresly commands contrary either in your selves or others and though some have erred herein yet this will not justifie thee in thy Pharisee steps for Christ did plainly describe the Pharisees to the Desciples by their walking and we find thee and the rest of thy Brethren compleat in their steps by the same spirit as Christ did we cry woe against you and as sure as Christ is the same for ever it will come upon you and further thou answers as concerning thy preaching and praying in a pulpit of wood in the Synagogue thou art no more then Christ his Prophets and Apostles who did preach in the Synagogues to be condemned Reply Yea thou art in the Pharisees steps having the chief seat in the Assembly and art to be condemned by the same which condemned the Pharisees And whereas thou hast brought many Scriptures to vindicate thy Pharisee like action none or them will justifie thee nor thy action and thou hast belyed the Prophets and Christ and his Apostles for they had not the chief place in the Assemblies which thou would go about to make appear they had and so would make them as bad as thy self and the Phasees but let all search the Scriptures which thou hast named and as for that where Ezra the Scribe read the Law in a Pulpit of wood in the street will not justifie thee except thou will own thy self to be a Scribe and Priest of the Law as he was and so deny thy self to be a Minister of the Gospel this was not in a formal customary way but at a particular time and to a particular people and he is not an example to the Ministers of the Gospel for they went up and down in Towns and Markets and Vilages preaching to every creature which is our example and not Ezra and as for the other Scriptures they will bear witness against thy action for not one of them doth prove that either-Christ or his Apostles had the chief seat in the Synagogues but sometimes they went and declared against them and sometime they were hailed out and persecuted in them as we are and thy manner or action in the Assemblies is according to the Pharisees and not according to the Apostles thou makes a trade to get money by thy action and they did not so but freely what they had received from God they declared but thou sels thine for money and upholds an Idols Temple which they bore witness against as the Scripture bears witness and here thou hast wrested the Scripture being unlearned to thy own destruction and where is thou speaks of feeding the flock of Christ I answer they who are the sheep of Christ knows thy voice to be the stranger and will deny thee and thy food which feeds dead minds with the dead letter and then make a prey upon the people as the false Prophets did and thou art raised out from all the holy Prophets and Apostles art in the steps of the false Prophets and Scribes and Pharisees and false Brethren thou speaks of our profaning the Temples and basely contemning it to which I answer we bear witness against the Idols Temples of the world which God is dishonoured in and Baal worshiped and do say God dwels not in Temples made with hands no other ways we profane it nor contemn it but as the Apostles did in witnessing forth the Substance and denying the figure and further thou sayest that as Christ did so thou doest acknowledge to be called Master Minister or Pastor and do likewise Christ like own in sincerity and humility to stand praying in the Synagouge Reply Here thou art impudent and shameless who acknowledges thy self to be called Masters absolute contrary to the command of Christ and so art to be condemned with the Pharisees and as for Ministers of the Gospel and Pastor of the flock of Christ thou art none for thy fruits doth make thee manifest and being found out of the doctrine of Christ and of his Apostles art to be Iudged by their life and Spirit and that Christ stood praying in the Synagogue which thou sayest I declare against thee here to be a lyar for in the Scripture thou canst not prove that Christ stood praying in the Synagogue and so hast belyed him and hast added in this answer to the Scripture as thou hast done in the twelfth Query and so thou mayest read thy portion plagues will God adde unto thee and as for sincerity and humility thou who pleads for that which the holy men of God witnessed against mayest be ashamed to profess sincerity and humility and thus thy answers are replied unto and thy shame laid open and thy portion read even the breath of the Lord will kindle thy torment who hath slandered Christ and his Apostle and would make them as bad as thy self and the lyars portion must thou have the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it XVIII Query Whether they be not Ministers of Antichrist that do practice those things that Christ cryed woe against and whether they be Ministers of Christ that though their subtilty go about to justifie those practices that Christ forbad and cryed woe against yea or no Answ. Thou sayest if thou know any goes about subtilly to justifie these practices it were well it were put out of a query Reply For the Information of the simple it was put forth and that thou might be made manifest and I put it out of all question and say that they are the Ministers of Antichrist that practise those things that Christ cryed woe against and thou art seen to be one of them that hath declared thy self openly to all that shall read thy answers that all thou hath written was in subtilty and thou goes about to justifie that which Christ cryed woe against as is manifest pleading for Tythes and denying Christ come in the flesh and pleads against the words and commands of Christ and to be called of men Master and for standing praying in the Synagogue and calls it Christ like let shame strike thee in thee face and I chalenge thee to prove where Christ stood praying in the Synagogue did he act those things that he cryed woe against and so thou would make him like thy self a dissembler and