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A86442	Some observations upon a sermon bearing the name of Mr. Astley's; preached in opposition to a testimony, and sign unto them, of their spiritual nakedness; wherein he is found to wrest and pervert the scriptures : to be ignorant of the truth, as it is in Jesus; and consequently no minister of Christ, &c. / By a lover of the truth, John Hogg.	Hogg, John, fl. 1675-1698.	1675 (1675)	Wing H2368A; ESTC R178082	15,967	23

if you will neither believe in it for its works sake nor yet the testimony of your Brethren who in that case may be your Judges But again to return to the matter we find that the Prophets Christ and his Apostles did thus make use of the Scriptures to correct reprove and instruct the backsliden and unbelieving Jews not but that he was perfect without them and his words as sure as they and so his Spirit speaking through all his servants but because the Scriptures was of credit and received by them which he and his servants was not Therefore he sayes to the Jews Search the Scriptures Obs for in them ye think to have Eternal life and they are they that testifie of me By which its manifest the Scriptures may be esteemed and searched to the best of mans understanding and yet they miss of the Truth for saith he Ye will not come unto me that ye may have Life John 5.39 Further to shew that the Scriptures of themselves without the Spirit cannot furnish to every good work Joh. 21.25 Joh. 16.13 for Christ saith to his Disciples who had the Scriptures and also more ' of his words then was supposed could be written I have many things to say unto you which you cannot bear yet Howbeit when the Spirit of truth is come it shall lead you into all truth by which it is manifest that Christ prefers this his Spiritual Dispensation above all outward Dispensations and teachings whatsoever to compleat perfect and furnish them Joh. 14.26 for saith he it doth not only lead into all Truth but it shall bring all things to your remembrance c. And not only so but fully to compleat them which are guided by it Obs He shall not speak of himselfe but what he heareth that shall he speak he shall take of mine and shew it unto you c. Joh. 14.17 The Spirit was to be looked for in them for saith he he that dwelleth with you shal be in you much might be added more upon this Subject but this is sufficient to those who have an Ear to hear what the Spirit saith But Least any should think those things only related to the Apostles mind Christ said I pray not for these alone but for them also Joh. 17 20-24 which shall believe in me through their word that they may be one as thou Father art in me and I in thee that they also may be one in us that the World may believe that thou hast sent me Thus R. A.s Assertion is denyed and the Spirit of Truth Asserted and proved to be the only guide into all truth Suppose his Argument was granted see then what would be the consequence for it was said to those that had Scripture notwithstanding they had Scripture for lack of vision the People perish Secondly for lack of Knowledg my People Perish and knowledge or understanding Pro. 29.18 Hos 4.6 Joh. 32.8 Luk. 10.22 2 Thesi 1. comes by the Inspiration of the Almighty Thirdly none knows the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveals him Lastly it is written God will render vengeance upon them that know him not c. By these things it is manifest there is a necessity to know somthing above and beyond the the Scriptures namely that Spiwhence they came for they cannot give the knowledge of God because they are not Christ c. Again he sayes there 's enough in the Scriptures God doth not use to bring his people any thing that is useless by which I conclude he sees not the true use of the Scriptures that can find no proportion between two extreams what either all or nothing thats his ignorance Secondly he saith there is no such Spirit to be expected nor no such way to be looked beyond and above the Scripture Io. 8.9 c. From this I conclude he belongs not to Christ because he denyes his Spirit for if he had his Spirit for if he had his Spirit he could not but conclude it a more perfect guide then the Scriptures I must from hence also conclude he is no Minister of Christ 2 Cor. 3.6 for the true Ministers of the New Testament which is written in the heart are Ministers of the Spirit but he of the letter and so by all his Preaching cannot bring one to God for he concludes the Scriptures is the way and no way above it But the Scriptures h. 14.6 declare against him saying Christ is the way unto the Father and none can come to the Father but by him So it 's full time for all to turn from him who turns all that comes to him out of the way His Argument prove that there is nothing to be looked for above or beyond the Scriptures is from the 2 Pet. 1.19 The Scriptures are a more sure word of Prophecie by which he concludes them surer then a voice from Heaven Obs Scriptures at utmost are but a declaration of those voices which came from Heaven So cannot be surer then a voice from Heaven no whut to abate his confidence I shall prove a voice from Heaven surer then the Scriptures from this very place where he reposeth his chiefest strength Mark this voice was certain This is my Beloved Son hear him Certainer I am sure it was to them that heard it then this very Scripture can be unto R. A. because some Translations renders it a more sure word of the Prophets as well as others a more sure word of Prophesie This difference is very great and by the Scriptures he cannot determine it He looks for nothing further so I am sure he cannot be certain but for brevity sake and further satisfaction in this particular peruse a Book of William Pen's called Quakerisme a new Nick-name for old Christianity from page d82 to 191. being an answer to his Brother John Faldow There is much builded more upon this foundation but it being removed the rest must come to nothing Thirdly He saith there is no such thing as an Extraordinary Inspiration to be looked for above the Scriptures Obs his notable reason for it and that sayes he is because it must necessarily be revealed to us by the Scriptures Ans Grant the Scriptures be the things of God with respect to what they declare of and at utmost they can be no more then it followes that they are so farre from revealing things which is above them That they cannot open the Mistery declared of in them to those that have them Because the things of God knoweth no man but the Spirit of God his Ignorance and want of Gods Spirit 1 Cor. 2.11 is further manifest by his setting up the Scriptures in stead of the Spirit of God saying it must be revealed to us by the Scriptures his Assertion is also in contradiction to the Scripture which he sayes is his guide by which it appears he is in the dark and so knows not whither he goes for it is written

c. That which eye hath not seen nor ear heard neither came it into mans heart c. So that is beyond the Scripture 1 Cor. 2.9 neither is nor can be revealed by them because God reveals them by his Spirit for the Spirit searcheth all things 1 Cor. 2.9 Jere. 31.33 34. even the deep things of God Again it is the promise that God would write his Law in the heart this is that inspiration which is to be looked for above and beyond the Scriptures and that because it gives the knowledge of God So as that they need not to be taught or said unto know the Lord which the Scripture cannot do At utmost but pointing to it Obs God doth not there say he will write his Law in the Scriptures but in the heart therefore all that looks not for it in the heart looks for it where it is not to be found so must needs miss Thus take it home profess what you will if you do not thus witness it you are not yet in the new Covenant So without God in the World c. He further saith no Promise of a dispensation Superiour to the Scriptures c. Thus his Ignorance is made manyfest both of that Dispensation and also of the Scriptures Isai 54.13 Jere. 31.33 34 for the Scriptures declare that all shall be taught of God is not this greater then to be taught of man or of the Scripture Secondly God said he would Write his Law it the heart and they should all know him from the least to the greatest Lastly Joel 2.28 29. The Prophet Joel said the Lord would pour forth of his Spirit upon all flesh Sons Daughters and Handmaids c. Where this is truly known there 's nothing to do where such an Ignorant Teacher as he is whose words render him ignorant of the Scripture and of the Spirit that gave them forth He further saith Isa 8.20 To the Law and to the Testimony if they speak not according to this Word it 's because there is no light in them Obs By this his conclusion he hath no light in him or rather no morning to him for he hath often in this discourse spoken contrary to the Scriptures And as for the Law and Testimony seeing he pleads for none but that which is outward It 's thereby evident he is Ignorant of the New Covenant and knows nothing of the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus Ro. 8.2 c. And so at utmost declares but of that which makes not the comers thereunto perfect So no marvail if perfection be denyed c. Again he speaks by way of reflection upon us as though we preached another Gospel but it s more like that he and such who preach the Letter to be the Highest dispensation and tell the People the Letter is the Gospel as the Writings of Mathew Mark Luke John when as the Gospel is the Power of God and so no outward thing And was preached to Adam Ro. 1.16 Heb. 4.2 Gal 3.8 to Abraham and the Israelites in the wilderness so before the Writings of Mathew Mark Luke John Fourthly He sayes if there be any such dispensation to be looked for then there must of necessity be something to try it by to distinguish it from false Appearances Obs If he intend further then the Scripture declares of I answer none further for the Scriptures speaks of a People that was come to City of the Living God New Jerusalem to an Innumerable company of Angels and to God the Judge of all Heb 12. this under the New Covenant But that he is Ignorant of this he has sufficiently shewed and knows nothing of him that speaks from Heaven Heb. 12.25 But sayes he there must of necessity be something to try it by c. Ans So there is Job 28.7 but it lyes hid from every Vultures eye for the day is come that the Cananite can be no more in the House of the Lord Zach 14 21. nor can Israels Corn be any more meat for his Enemies a Stranger cannot intermeddle with his Joy for the testimony is bound up Isa 8 16 and the Law sealed among his Disciples The Natural man cannot judge of those things they are foolishness unto him It 's the Spiritual man which judgeth all things that is led by the Spirit of God which is a more absolute guide then the Scriptures for they that are led by it It bears Witness with their Spirits Rom. 8.16 Joh. 5.10 that they are the Sons of God which the Scriptures cannot doe particularly But saith the Scripture every one that believeth hath the witness in hi mselfe but to speak a little plainer for their sakes that can receive it if any would be made able to Judge of such dispensation they must wait to know a measure given them for they may read before John did measure the Temple and them that worshipped therein he had a measure given but the outward Court he was not to mett c. Re. 11.1 And are not all here who are setting up so high outward things When the New Covenant is inward and the Law inward Joh. 4.24 2 Cor. 4.18 Joh. 12.36 Ephe. 5.13 and Gods worship in the Spirit and in the Truth which are all inward in respect of things that are outward what is seen is temporal but that which is not seen is Eternal but no man can understand those things except he come to believe in the Light for it is Light that makes all things manyfest there is but light and darkness and they are contrary one to another Joh. 12.35 2 Cor. 44. Eph 2.2 1 Joh. 1.7 Joh. 1.5 he that walks in darkness knows not whither he goes because the darkness hath blinded his Eye And that eye is inward which is blinded by the God of this world that ruleth in the children of disobedience but he that comes to the light and walks in the light as God is in the Light knows whither he goes this light shines in darkness but the darkness comprehends it not 2 Cor. 4.6 7. And this light is to be looked for in the heart for God that commanded light to shine out of darknesse hath shined in our hearts none can deny but the Law of God by which man comes to know God must be written in the heart Heb. 8.10.11 except they will deny the New Covenant Thus what I have said is not contrary to the Scriptures but hath Testimony of the Law Prophets and Apostles we do not make void the Scriptures but establish them saying the Law is for the Lawless and that the Scriptures are profitable for correction and Instruction c. So he may correct me by them if there be occasion c. But again to pass by much of his discourse which is mostly impertinent to our purpose and well nigh as frivilous I shall observe his 4 directions Which he says he gives least he