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A05364 A consultation what faith and religion is best to be imbraced. Written in Latin by the R. Father Leonard Lessius, Professour in Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by W.I. Lessius, Leonardus, 1554-1623.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 15517; ESTC S105037 99,482 276

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and Anabaptists are at bitter wars one with another about many points of fayth and do impeach one the other of heresy The Lutherans do dissent both among themselues in many things and from Luther himselfe ●heir Father and Apostle in so much as at this tyme there be reckoned thirty one principal Sects of Lutherans different in name and disagreing in many points of doctrine The Caluinists be at variance among themselues especially in the Article touching the head of the Church For a great part of them giueth that power to the secular Prince though she be a woman and these be called Protestants Others of them hold the same for impiety and blasphemy and those they call Puritaus The Anabaptists differ among themselues in very many things so as of them there be numbred 14. diuers Sects distinct both in names and in points of doctrine Finally it is now come to this that where euery one followeth this rule of Scripture alone and relyeth vpon it there be almost as many heresyes as there be heretiks For the greater part of them especially the more simple affirme that they little regard or care what Luther or Caluin taught sith they cleaue fast to the holy Scriptures and recur to the word of God in which there cannot be any errour and so they thinke themselues very secure And euery one vnderstandeth the Scripture according to his own capacity and sense Wherhence it followeth that where they thinke they haue the Scripture for an infallible rule of their beliefe insteed of Scripture they haue and follow their owne imagination For whatsoeuer they imagine to be signified meant by the words of scrip ture they take for the true fense of Scripture and so lookehow many diuers imaginations of men there be so many rules there be of beliefe But whence is it that to euery one his owne imagination should seeme the most true verity and the very fense of Scripture It procedeth partly of a certaine exceeding selfe-pleasing lone and estimation For he who maketh any great reckoning of himselfe easily perswadeth himselfe that all his owne innentions and conceipts of mind be great and extraordinary partly by working of the Diuell who doth in wardly pernert mensphanfyes so as what they apprehend they forth with for euery most light and idle poore reason thinke to be most cuident truth For whiles men wearied with the auncient Religion loathing it do auerse the truth longe to heare nou●lt yes they are by Gods iust iudgment suffered to be begnyled by the Diuell Whereupon whiles he worke the inwardly in their senses they thinke themselues to haue recevued the light of Gods spirit and vnto it they referre all iudgment touching matters of fayth Hence it is that to euery sect almost to euery priuate man their owne apprehension seemeth to be the pure word of God neyther care they for all the reasons that are brought to the contrary The Apostle insinuateth no lesse when he sayth 2. Thes 2. For that they haue not receyued the Charity of truth that they might be saued therefore God will send them the operation of errour that they may belieue lying He shall send not by way of commaund but by giuing more power to the Diuell for the deceyuing of them who haue contemned the truth or ancient Religion and the thrusting of them into a thousand errors But the most of them especially the simple say God will not permit them to be deluded who search the truth with an humble hart for the hath promised that he will giue a good spirit to them who aske him And this do I for I make my petition to God that he would please to illuminate me open vnto me the true sense of the Scriptures and I cease not continually to search them This is a great deceipt of the Diuell For how do they with an humble hart search out the truth who contemne makeno esteeme of the iudgment of the Doctors of the Church of the interpretation and exposition of the holy Fathers and of the definitions of Generall Councells who refuse to vse the way appointed and shewed by God and require vnnecessary reuelations For from them they might vnderstand the truth and exempt themselues from all errour but they haue not a will to submit themselues vnto them thinking that they may by their owne industry their owne wit and priuate spirit with a more facility and certainity find the truth out of the bare naked Scriptures As though the holy Fathers Doctors and Prelats of the Church did eyther not search the Scritures or wanted the spirit of God and sound iudgment so as it passed their skil to ariue to the true vnderstanding therof What greater pride can there be thought then that a priuare person and comonly an Idiot ignorant of all antiquity and good literature should prefer himselfe before so great authority and holynes and so great a number of Doctors And therfore they must not thinke thatso longe as they be of that mind they shall obta●ne any thing at our Lords hands because they aske both yll and prowdly but that they shall rather be deceyued by the spirit of pryde and of lying whereunto they are by Gods iust iudgment for so great a cryme delyuered This is that spirit whereof all heretiks though they be neuer so different in Doctrine haue their part and vaunt themselues and of which euery one thinketh the truth to be reuealed vnto him which certes he that is not blinde may casily obserue and see because Gods spirit reucaleth not contraryes Moreouer the holy Scrip●ure no where remitteth priuate men in doubts of fayth to the fearch of the Scriptures but to the Church and to them who be the Prelats of the Church So in Deu●eronomy c. 17. in matters of doubt they are remitted to the Priests who haue charge and rule for the tyme whome he that shal refuse to obay is sentenced to dy Therfore hath God appointed pastors doctors in his Church therfore would he haue it conspicuous to the whole world to be the pillar and firmament of truth that all might with case make their recourse vnto it and most securely repose vpon the determination of it There is not giuen to all the spirit of vnderstanding the Scriptures as is plaine by testimony of the Apostle 1. Cor. 12. 1. Ioan. 4. 2. Cor. 11. We are not to giue credit to euery spirit but the spirits are to be tryed if they be of God Wherfore though your spirit suggest vnto you something you are not therefore secure for you are not sure that it is of God For it is certaine that infinite numbers haue been and are deceyued cuery heretike vaunteth himselfe of this spirit The Angell of Sathan oftentymes transfigureth himselfe into an Angell of light Wherefore by what hath been said it is most euident that a priuate spirit cannot possibly carry it selfe for the rule of beliefe The XII Reason Drawne from Absurdity
authority of a Greek and Latin Copyes in the Dutch Bible translateth it thus Hoc significat Corpus meum This signifieth my body In the 2. Act. 27. where it is said Non derelinques animam meam in inferno Thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell Beza translateth it thus Non relinques cadauer meū in sepulchro Thou wiltnot leaue my carcasse in the graue changing the greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifieth animam into cadauer and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 orcum into sepulchrum And is not this thinke yow to corrupt Scriptures Caluin doth so expound almost all the places of Scripture wherby the Ancient Fathers dyd proue the Trinity of Persons and the Diuinity of the Sonne or the Holy Ghost that he doth eueruate all the force therof wherin he doth not alittle symbolize with the Iewes Sabellians Arians and Macedonians Againe the 53. whole Chapter of Isay which is manifestly meant of the passion death and satisfaction of Christ Caluin expoundeth it metaphorically of the griefes and molestations which the Iewish people by their sinnes did cause vnto Christ And what can be more violently or absurdly spoken or what can be more fitly accommodated to the Iewes perfidiousnesse Matth. 19. vers 17. where it is said Si vis ad vitam ingredi serua mandata If thou wilt enter into life keep the Comaundements Caluin will haue this speach to haue byn vttered by Christ in a scoffing manner or mockingly Allo ad Hebr. 5. vers 7. Exauditus est pro sua reuerentia He was heard for his reuerence Caluin expoundeth the greeke word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to signifie metum or dubitationem feare or doubtfullnes and saith that hereby is signified that Christ was stroken with so horrible a terrour of death that he was ready to fall into delperation of his eternall saluation I omit many other places Monsieur du Plessis a principall Caluinist in France in a little booke of his which he published Of the supper of our Lord hath corrupted more then an hundred testimonies of Fathers Doctors partly by cutting of and mangling their words and partly by adding therto of his own As also in this booke of his he produceth many arguments which by Schole doctors as the manner is are obiected against the truth and afterwards solued and answered by themselues as if they had byn set downe expressely by them for their owne doctrine and opinions Of which fraud he was these yeares past publiquely conuinced in presence of the late king of France and many of his nobility by the Bishop of Eureux now Cardinall as is well knowne to all France And the very same deceypt and craft do all their writers vse when they go about to proue their opinions and doctrine out of the Fathers Moreouer Their alleaging of obscure Authorityes this is another comon tricke amongst these men to wit that in citing the Fathers opinions they do alwayes omit their cleere perspicuous sense which may explicate and plainely declare their mind and insteed therof they produce commonly some obscurē and darke sentences of theirs were they do but by chance and as it were by the way touch the controuersy in hand Of which fraud very many testimonies are alledged not only against the Reall presence of Christs body in the Eucharist but against many other euident articles of Catholike faith also as for example against free wil against internal lustice against merit of good workes against the Authority of Councells c. And there is nothing so cleare and euident in our faith which by certaine obscure places of Scripture or Fathers may not seeme to be impugned nor is there any thing so absurd which by that meanes may not be defended For what is more absurd then to say that Christs body is euery where alwel as his Diuinity And yet do these men go about to confirme the same by many restimonies both of Scriptures and Fathers What is more absurd then to say that God is the Author of all synne Or that man hath not free will And yet do they alleadg many obscure places both out of Scriptures Fathers to establish those their fancies Y● they seeke for truth why then do they omit those places which be plaine and perspicuous and fly vnto such as be obscure and darke why do they not stand to the iudgment of the ancient Fathers and Doctors for explication therof who were long before our tyme but will only rely and rest vpon their owne sense and interpretation When as any obscure speaches of the Fathers do but seeme to f●uour them those they do diligently and readily produce and do indeauour to confir me their Doctrine therwith but when Catholikes to the contrary do alledg any thing out of the Fathers which is euidently against them then they make answere presently and say● that the Fathers were me●● and consequently subiect to error but they rely vpon the word of God which cannot err● Y● yow reply and say that the Fathers do also rely vpon the word God they answere that the Fathers haue not attayned to the vnderstanding of the Diuine word and therfore were deceyued Y● yow aske them how they know that the Fathers haue not attayned to the true sens● and vnderstanding of the word of God themselues haue they answer● that 〈◊〉 is euident out of the word of God But how is it euident seing there beso many and so diuers interpretations amongst them and that all the ancient Fathers haue interpreted otherwise them they and the Lutherans otherwise then the Caluinists and they againe otherwise then the Anabaptists The interpretation say they is euident to him that hath the spirit but to others not And thus do the Patrones of euery Sect answere and reduce their final iudgement of euery controuersy to a prin●● spirit Therfore the Caluinists say that all the ancient Fathers all the Doctours of the Church all generall Councells wanted the true-true-spirit of vnderstanding the Scriptures as also do the Lutherans and Anabaptists at this day want the same only themselues haue the true spirit and to them it is specially graunted from aboue and therefore to them ●n is spirit is manifest in so much that whatsoeuer they teach that is the pure Word of God The very sume thing say the Lutherans to wi● that the Councells Fathers Doctours of the Church did want this true spirit as also the Caluinists Anabaptists do only to them it is graunted and therefore say they it is euident and certaine that our doctrine is agrable to the Word of God And finally the Anabaptists do take away this spirit from all others and clayme it as proper only to themselues But how absurd thinke you voyd of reason are al these things How incredible is it that all the Catholike Doctours and Fathers of the Church should want the true spirit of vnderstanding Scriptures and that it should begiuen now to the Caluinists only or
remission of Synns they explicate of not imputation only not acknowledging any inward renouation by inherent iustice and the infused gifts of God after which manner the Catholikes do hold that sinnes are forgiuen By these it is manifest how great a difference there is in the vnderstanding of the Creed Seing therfore that there is but only one truth and this in our Consultation we haue shewed to be among Catholikes it necessarily followeth ●● one God Creator of all thinges because his Alcoran doth teach him so which he thinketh to be written by the spirits of God his faith albeit he belieue that which is true relyeth vpon a false and deceytfull reason by the force whereof he is moued to belieue many false and blasphemous thinges as that there are not three Persons in the B. Trinity and that Christ is not God and that Christ is inferiour to Mahomet and that Circumcision the like are still to be kept That faith therfore by reason of the foundation is both deceitfull and hurtfull the same hapneth vnto alheretikes the which being supposed I vrge the argument in this manner That faith which relieth vpon a false foundation albeit it belieueth somethings which are true cannot be sufficient to saluation but the faith of all the sects of this tyme relieth vpon a false foundation it cannot be therefore sufficient for saluation The first proposition is manifest in it selfe for how can that which is deceitfull vncertayne be the ●oundation of our eternall 〈…〉 How can the true Religion where●● we please God be grounded in a false deceitfull faith Truly it is no lesse repugnant to reason then if thou shouldest say that truth is grounded vpon lyes wisdome vpon error and vertue vpon folly The second proposition The faith of all sectaries dependeth vpon a false ground to wit that all Sects are grounded vpon a false and deceitful foundation I proue in this manner for eyther they belieue their opinions for the authority of their Apostles Luther Caluin Melancthon Zwinglius c. whom they iudge to be endewed with the spirit of God or because euery one of them in their owne priuate iudgement do beleeue those things to be cōteyned in holy Scripture or lastly because their owne priuate spirit doth inwardly testify vnto them that those things are true or that this is the meaning of holy Scripture for whatsoeuer the sects of these tymes do belieue they are moued thereunto by one of these three reasons and they appoint one of them to be the foundation or reason of their beliefe but these foundations and reasons be altogeather false and deceitfull As for the first reason to wit the authority of Luther Caluin and the rest who first inuented these new Religions that it is deceitfull is many fest because we see by experience that both they might and haue byn often deceyued for they haue reuoked many things corrected many things and in many things haue they contradicted themselues as hath byn declared in our Consultation of Religion in the 9. Consideration and the sixt Reason Hence it commeth to passe that few now adayes will rely vpon their authority because they say they were men and therefore subiect to error wherfore their followers also do leaue them at their owne pleasure when they thinke they haue found any thing fitter for their purpose their authority therfore is deceitfull vncertayne euen by the iudgement of their owne schollers and followers Neyther is the other to wit the priuate iudgment whereby they expound the holy Scripture lesse deceitful for many false thinges by that priuate iudgement seeme to be true and many things which before seemed true are afterward iudged false From hence ariseth so great variety and inconstancy in many of them concerning matters of faith because indeed mans iudgement is weake especially in the mysteries of our fayth and the vnderstanding of holy Scripture the which far exceedeth the reach of mans wisdome and reason Many do answere that they do not rely vpon their iudgment in matters of faith but vpon the holy Scriptures which cannot erre Whether all sectaries do rely vpon the Scripture wherin how miserably they are deceiued by this appeareth because almost all the sects do say that they rely vpō holy Scripture wheras notwithstanding they differ among themselues in most of the matters one teaching contrary vnto another the which could by no meanes come to passe if they did not rest vpon their owne iudgments but vpon the lawfull and common vnderstanding of the holy Scripture for the holy Scripture is no where contrary vnto it selfe neyther doth it any where disagree from it selfe that therefore they so greatly iarre disagree among themselues is caused by that they make a sense to the holy Scripture according to their owne priuate iudgment the which is diuersly framed by them according to the diuersity of iudgments and vnderstanding among them they rely therfore vpon the holy Scripture not as it is interpreted by the Catholike Church the holy Fathers but as they in their priuate iudgment do interprete it for the vertue and force of the holy Scripture doth not only consist in the bare words but in the sense and meaning therof but the priuate iudgment inuenteth this sense and ioyneth it to the words of the Scripture as lyfe vnto the body the whole reason of their fayth therefore is their priuate iudgmēt the which how deceitfull oftentymes it is may easily be declared by the disagreement of so many sects For it is all one whether thou saist that thou reliest vpon Scripture as it is interpreted by thy proper iudgment or that thou reliest vpon thy owne iudgment precisely in it selfe Finally the third reason whereupon many now adayes do rely is most deceitfull and skornfull of all a manifest signe wherof is that among the Anabaptists who aboue all others are guyded by the instinct of the spirit there is the greatest variety of sects and disagrement of faith the which could not be but that the spirit whereupon they rely and by whome they are gouerned is deceitfull and variable The same also is to be seene among Caluinists and Lutherans and amongst their sects and diuers factions for their owne opinion is certayne and euident vnto euery one of them by the testimony of their owne priuate iudgment the which inwardly teacheth euery one of them and affoardeth the testimony of truth vnto euery one of them whereby it is manifest that this spirit is not the holy Ghost the spirit of truth who cannot teach contraryes or be opposite vnto it selfe but it is a wicked spirit the spirit of error who is a lyar from the begining and the father of lyes who worketh in the children of incredulity of whome the Apostle saith Because they haue not receiued the charity of truth 2. Thess 6. he will therefore send them the operation of error that they may belieue in lyes And in another place 2. Tim. 4. In
the last dayes there shall some depart from their saith attending to the spirits of error and doctrines of the diuell For euery heresy is the doctrine of the Diuell And S. Iohn saith 1. Ioan. 4. Do not belieue euery spirit but try their spirits whether they be of God or not For many false Prophets are gone out into the world This therefore is the spirit which beareth rule in the harts of heretiks whose testimony operation they feele inwardly engrafted in their harts and yet they thinke it to be the worke of the holy Ghost who so blindeth their mind and fansies that they iudge light to be darknesse and darknesse light that they think the most cleare truth of the Catholike faith to be an error and most filthy errors to be the cleare truth And truly if they were not wholy blinded bewitched they might easily perceiue that spirit whome they feele inwardly not to be the spirit of God or at the least they might begin to doubt therof seing that all sects among whome there is so great dissention variety of opinions do all equally feele boast of and follow that testimony of this spirit and rely vpon it in the confirmation of their most contrary opinions but this hapneth by the iust iudgment of God for as the Iewes who would not receiue Christ were permitted to be blinded by the diuell as it is manifest by the Apost 2. ad Thes 2. so heretiks because they haue forsaken the Catholik fayth the which is no lesse a fault then that of the Iewes are deliuered vnto him that he may as it were bewitch their minds and driue them into all kind of error But if any will attentiuely consider he shall easily preceyue a more potent operation of the diuell and bewitching of mindes in our Heretiks The diuell doth sooner bewitch Heretiks then Iewes then eyther in Iewes or Mahometans and that for two reasons First because the Iews agree in the same faith neither is there any variety of sects among them among the Mahomets there are only two sects and there is no great difference betwixt thē But among heretiks of these tymes there are many sects some arising by the increase of new opinions who condemne one another of heresy and all these are risen within the space of 90. yeares the which is a manifest signe that the diuell meruailously possesseth inwardly the hartes of these men troubling their fansies peruerting their imaginations and iudgments that they cannot remayne or be quiet any where Secondly because the common sort of people among the Iewes and Turkes do not rely vpon their owne iudgment or vpon the testimony and instinct of the priuate spirit but vpon the iudgment of their doctors or which is all one vpon their owne Scripture as it is interpreted vnto them by the doctors of their Religion they haue therfore the rule of their faith and ground of their beliefe conformable as it were to reason that is to say the common consent of their predecessors or the Scripture explicated vnto them by the consent of the doctors of their Religion But most of the heretikes of these tymes do not respect their Superiors and Apostles from whom they first receiued this new Ghospell but they forsake them as men subiect to error and they rely wholy vpon their owne iudgment or vpon the testimony of the priuat spirit or which is al one vpon the Scripture only vnderstood after the sense of their owne iudgment priuate spirit the which is an euident sign that Sathan doth so effectually worke in them bewitch their myndes that not only euery one feygneth vnto himselfe new heresies and opinions but also that he placeth the foundation of his beliefe rule of faith in himself in his owne inward sense and iudgement for euery one thinketh himself to be taught by our Lord and indued with the Magistery of the spirit albeit they be women yong girles therfore to be free from error but al the holy Fathers to haue byn men subiect to error The same they iudge of their Apostles and Ministers But what greater bewitching or deceiuing of people can there be then this Hence it commeth to passe that they haue no certaine and established opinions amongst them neither can they set downe or frame any body of doctrine and religion but they must wander vp and downe in vncertaintyes as the priuate spirit leadeth them neyther can there any disputation be made with them cōcerning their opinions seing that they do not defend any one opinion they being by reason of the ignorance of their predecessors altogeather vnlearned But of this spirit of folly madnesse we haue written more at large in our Consultation in the 9. Consideration the 11. Reason By these it is manifestly concluded that all the ground and foundation of faith wherupon the sects of our tymes relye is false and vncertaine and therfore their faith which relyeth theron is vnprofitable and auayleth nothing to saluation The 8. Reason Eightly if euery one who doth acknowledge Christ may be saued in his owne faith Why is there so great disagreement among religions Why do they excommunicate condemne one another of heresy Why do the Lutherans refuse to acknowledg the Caluinists for their brethren and in their publike sermons and books do call them wicked blasphemous persons Why do the chiefe of the Caluinists among whome Theodore Beza the Father of them all as it were their Pope next after Caluin handle the Lutherans in like manner why do the Anabaptists call those only of their owne sect to be the faithfull Christians and account all others as Infidels Wherby it is euident that this new opinion of doctrine is not only cōtrary to Catholike religion but to all other sects also who haue in them any zeale of piety and religion and to be banished as Atheisme only The 9. Reason Ninthly that any man be saued it sufficeth not to keepe only one two or three commandements but it is necessary to keep all according to those words of Christ Matth. 19. Matth 19. If thou wilt enter into life keep the commandements As if any be an adulterer or thiefe albeit he keep the other commandments he may not be saued as the holy Scripture often teacheth In like manner therfore it is not sufficient to saluation to beleeue two three or foure articles but it is necessary to belieue all those things which God hath reuealed and set downe to vs in his Church to be belieued for faith is no lesse necessary to saluation then obediēce of the commādments of the law of God neither should faith be lesse perfect then the obedience and keeping of the law of God As therfore obedience must extend it selfe to all the commandments so must faith extend it selfe to all things which are reuealed the which may be confirmed by the words of S. Iames in the 2. Iac. 2. Chap. VVhosoeuer hath kept the whole
same substance with his Father And in (f) Cont. Gentil refutat 10. another place Nomen dei c. The Name of God by excellency doth pertayne only to the Father and he is only properly the Creatour of heauen and earth Nay more the Sonne is subiect to the Father also according to his Diuinity Againe in the same place Impropriam duram c. That is an improper hard speach of the Nicene Creed God of God Light of Light And in his 2. Epistle to the Poloniam he affirmeth that Christ according also to his Diuine Nature is inferiour to the Father Behould then whither this nouelty is come at last These things being considered what wise man can euer be brought to belieue that these men were sent of God to reforme the Church For how should they repayre this ruined Church who so shamefully destroy their owne doctrine Who can be thought so simple and of so small wisdome and circumspection that he cannot auoyd so manifest contradictions in matters of so great moment Certainly whosoeuer is contrary to himselfe and what he now establisheth by and by destroyeth againe he without all doubt doth not speake from the spirit of God For if I build saith the Apostle the same things againe which I haue destroyed I make my selfe a preuaricatour ad Galat. 2. The spirit of God cannot be contrary to it selfe nor deny it selfe Wherunto is added that although they contradict themselues in many thinges and ouerthrowe their owne pleas yet notwithstanding they are so bold malepart that they dare affirme themselues to be certaine of their owne Doctrine and the same to be most true and the very Doctrine it selfe of Christ For so saith Luther Certus sum quòd c. Contra Regē Angliae I am certayne that I haue my Doctrine from heauē And I am most certaine that my Doctrine is not myne but of Christ and that my doctrine cannot be contrary to it selfe seing that it is the Doctrine of Christ And in another place he saith Se ita esse c. that hit Doctrine is so certaine that he will not haue it iudged of Contra Statum Ecclesiast or contradicted by any man no not of the Angels And that no man can be saued vnlesse he receyue and imbrace his doctrine In like manner Caluin was wont often to exclayme in his sermons that he was a Prophet and that be could not be deceyued vnlesse God had deceyued him c. as before in the 5. Reason we haue shewed By which it is manifest that these men did not only not speake out of the spirit of God when as they are so full of errors and contradictions but that they be impostors also deceyuers of the people For whosoeuer affirmeth his Doctrine wherin there be so many errors and contradictions to be of God is presumed not to deale sincerely but to speake against his conscience and to beguile the people seeing that it is euident that he that doth so can haue no in ward light frō God wherby to make him certaine of the verity of his doctrine or the testimony of God because God cannot witnesse or reueale Doctrines contrary or repugnant one to the other With what force then do they so bouldly affirme that their Doctrine is of God or the Doctrine of Christ therfore they do not deale vprightly in this affayre but would only deceyue the world Some perhaps may answere herunto and say that now and then they erred in the beginning when as they had not as yet fully the spirit of God but afterward they neither erred nor changed their opinions But this answere hath no colour of truth For whosoeuer haue byn sent immediatly from God to teach and instruct the people they had presently in the very beginning of their mission an infallible assistance and direction from God so as they could neuer erre the least iote in their Doctrine as it is manifest of the Prophets and Apostles Nay in that beginning they had most of all need of that direction because then euery thing is more narrowly sifted and looked into and their authority and mission is compared with other learned men and their Doctrine For if they had byn taken in any error or contradiction all their credit and authority had byn lost and they had worthily byn reiected as false impostors and deceyuers of the people And so if Caluin and Luther had byn sent from God to repayre and reedify the Church it had byn specially necessary that straight in their begining their Doctrine had byn solide and without all contradiction least they might haue byn reiected and contemned as deceyuers and that worthily Againe I demaund of them when and at what tyme did they at length receyue that fulnes or plenitude of spirit that they could not erre any longer How should this be manifest to the world that men might know when to belieue them and when not to wit not in the beginning but yet in the later end For if this were not knowne they might presume and that worthily that they would erre as wel after as they had done before And finally it is euident that in all their life they were variable changing correcting or contradicting themselues almost in euery booke and worke they set forth as before we haue shewed by that little we haue alleaged and may do much more out of the many places produced by Cochlaeus Coccius and others out of their owne words and wrytings For the further they went comonly the more bitter they were and what they spake but mildly in the beginning that they eyther exaggerated or changed it into some contradiction in the end The VII Reason Taken from the fraudes and deceipts which the Sectaries commonly vse THAT Religion is alwayes to be had in suspition whose Authors mantayners do vse guile deceyts and lyes to vphold and establish the same For that true Religion doth not need any such helps but false Religion which when she is destitute of true and solid reasons she must necessarily place all her hope in lyes But now the Authors and mantayners of Lutheranisme and Caluinisme do vse many fraud● and lyes wherwith to propagate their religion Ergo they are worthily to be suspected That they vse deceyts it is manifest Heretiks impose false doctrine vpon Catholiks First for that they do falsely charge the Catholikes with many absurdityes wherby they may more easily impugne and defame their Religion as for example that the Papistes do worship images wood stocks stones euen as Ethnicks do adore their Idoles so as whatsoeuer they find in Scripture that is against the worshipping of Idols that they bring in against the veneration of Images In which case they deale not sincerely For they know wel inongh or may know if they will that in the Catholike Church Images of Saintes were neuer adored as Gods or with any worship that is due vnto God alone as Idols are adored by
to the Lutherans only or to the Anabaptists How vaine and friuolous is it that euery sect should challeng this spirit as proper only to her followers and haue no other proofe thereof then that the same is manifest to him that hath the spirit and he to whome it is not manifest hath it not And is not this now to walke round in a circle running to the beginning and reuoluing euery controu●●sy to that which is most obscure and knowne to no man els For now should I know that you haue this spirit When did euer the Doctors of the Church proue their assertions on this fashion Euery proofe ought to be made by that which is most manifest to the Aduersary so as it may be therby the more easily graunted by him but this proofe of theirs whereon all their opinions are foūded doth proceed from that which is most obscure and only relyeth vpon the iudgement of a priuate man who is both a party and an accuser in the cause For you cannot proue vnto me that you haue this spirit but only by your owne testimony which you giue of your selfe Ioan. 8. But he which giue●● testimony of himselfe his testimony is not true to wit it is not to be accoumpted true vnlesse it be witnessed other wayes But they to wit the Caluinists cannot proue themselues to haue this priuate spirit by other wayes but would haue vs to beleeue them on their bare word and asseueration because they say that they are certaine thereof Therefore there is no reason why we should beleeue them but great reason father to the contrary not to belieue them at all For that the spirit of God cannot be contrary to himselfe but these men are most contrary to themselues Ergo they are not gouerned by the spirit of God To this now I adde and it belongeth to no small deceit and guilefull machination of their that seeing these men haue forsaken the ancient fayth which hath florished for so many ages and imbraced now a new and vpstart Religion when Catholike Princes according to the receaued custome from the tymes of Constantine the Emperour do go about to compell them to returne to their ancient Religion which once they professed and forsake their new then they complaine grieuously and accuse them of tyrany calling them enemies of the Ghospell and stir vp the whole world in hatred against them as though they offered violence to their consciences against their eternall saluation and withal vnder pretence of this their liberty they raise vp tumults and seditions against them But when they haue once gotten the vpper hand God so permitting the same for our sinnes they will not graunt any liberty to Catholikes but stir vp most sharp persecution against them and force them with diuers torments and losse of goods to forsake the old Religion and imbrace their new which they neuer learned neuer heard of in former tyms to which they haue no obligation which is confirmed with no sound arguments and which by my most graue weighty reasons they see condemned of the Catholike Church throughout all Christendome Is this then to deale vprightly and with a sincere mind equal right Is it not rather a kind of lionish society whose right consisteth in strength and power of armes and which doth make and repeale lawes for it owne interest And what greater tyranny can be vsed ouer mens consciences then this In the Catholike Church none are forced to imbrace her fayth but those that sometymes haue professed it and now forsaken it and this neither vntill it be fully proued that they haue so done and cannot deny it But these our new Maisters do force and constraine men to imbrace their Noueltyes who neuer before professed the same and this also before they can conuince them of errour In which point they do also against their owne doctrine For that they teach that man hath no free-will but that he doth all things by the decree and impulsion of God whereto he cannot resist and that God doth infuse his fayth only to the elect By what right then do they force Catholikes to imbrace their fayth which is not in their owne power to do And againe seeing that their whole forme of fayth is reduced to the testimony of euery ones priuate spirit they do most wickedly in compelling Catholiks to beleiue not only against the testimony of their priuate spirit but also against the publike testimony of the spirit of the vniuersal Church For it is most certaine out of the holy Writ that the Church is gouerned by the spirit of God and therefore cannot erre which notwithstanding is not any way certaine in priuate men The VIII Reason Drawn from the ouerthrow of good Workes THAT religion that taketh away all affection and loue of good works is not to be attributed vnto Christ who euery where recomendeth good workes the obseruatiō of Gods comandments but the Religion both of Luther Calum taketh away all care of good workes therefore neither of them is to bee deemed Christs Religion And that these two religions take away the study and care of good workes is manifest First for that the one and the other teacheth that a man by all his good works is made no whit the more iust before God meriteth no euerlasting reward shall haue neyther lesse nor more reward in heauen whe her he do few good workes or many or none at all For as much as say they sole faith is esteemed of with God and that in fayth alone is all iustice contained For so affirmeth Luther in these words De decem praecept c. 1. I would not giue an halfe penny for S. Peters merits for helping of me because it is not in him to helpe himselfe but whatsoeuer he hath he hath it of God by faith in Christ Where he plainely teacheth that S. Peter was not the iuster or receiued the more good in heauen for his good workes but that his faith alone was crowned And els where So you see how rich a Christian man or he that is baptized is De captiu Babil c. de Baptismo who though he would neuer so fayne cannot debarre himselfe of his saluation by neuer so great sinnes vnles he will not beleeue For no sinne can damne him but his vnbele●uing alone all other sins if his sayth returne or stand stable vpon gods promise be in an instant absorpt by the same fayth Againe in another place De votis monast Good workes cannot be ●aught vnles you preiudice and hurt saith sith saith and good workes bee in matter of iustification most contrary whence it is that the Doctrine of workes is necessarily the doctrine of the diuell and a reuolt from the saith The same is the opinion of Caluin Lib. 3. c. 13. as appeareth in his Institutions where he sayth That iustice of fayth can in no sort haue any association with the iustice of workes and that not onely the workes that
away that maketh to the substance of doctrine All this cannot to be known by Scripture but proued only by certaine humane weake coniectures if you take away the traditions of the Church and so the whole foundatiō of our fayth shall rely vpon vncertaine coniectures Moreouer the vertue and efficacy of the Scripture consisteth not in the sound of the words but in the sense meaning which is the life and soule of the Scripture But there may be a thousand controuersies about the sense which cannot in any sort be decided by the Scripture it selfe if you take a way Traditions and the exposition of the Fathers as experience teacheth For about the sense of these words Hoc est Corpus meum and of many more there is most eager disputation betwene the Lutherans and Caluinists c. If you say with Caluin that the iudgment touching the Scriptures and the vnderstanding of them belongeth to an inward spirit this is nothing but the dictamen of an internall spirit that is for the priuate iudgment of euery particular person to set down the first rule how to beleeue For euery one may say that he hath the spirit and by the inspiration therof can iudge and determine that this part or booke is holy Scripture and not that that this is the sense not that So a● Lutheran out of his spirit giueth iudgment In prologonou● Testamer ti that S. Iames Epistle is a strawy Epistle and the Apocalyps of S. Iohn of doubtfull authority But the Caluinist out of his soiri● iudgeth the one and the other to be the word of God So Luther out of his spirit iudgeth that this false opinion is to be abolished that there be foure Gospells for that S. Iohns Gospell is but one faire true and principall and to be far preferred before the other three In like manner S. Paules and S. Peters epistles do sar go beyond sayth be the three Gospells of Mathew Marke and Luke He would willingly haue reiected them because they plainely proue establish the merit and necessity of good works and the obseruation of the commaundements and do recommend chastity and pouerty But when he durst not cleane reiect them he would extennate their authority and insinuate that they were not written with the spirit of God In like maner Caluin out of his own sense iudgeth that these words Hoc est Corpus meum haue this meaning This breed is the figure of my body and Luther will haue it This bread is truly my body I omit other thing without nūber by which it appeareth that euery ones priuate iudgment is proposed for arule of beleefe or which is the same that the Scripture it selfe is expounded and interpreted according to euery ones priuate iudgment Secondly that is not any fit rule of beliefe that is a like accommodated to contrary doctrines but the scripture is accommodated to contrary Religions and doctrines for as much as all the Sects of this time though they do in an hostile manner dissent and contend in very many and those the most inportant heads and grounds do neuertheles make this rule to serue their turne and doe vse it for the mantayning of their opinions and heresyes For the Lutherans say they rely vpon Scripture the Caluinists affirme the same the Anabaptists also are nothing behind them in auerring that the Scriptures be for them And no meruaile because euery one of them taketh and interpreteh the Scripture not conforme to the comon vnderstanding of the Church or the common exposition of the Fathers as do the Catholikes but according to the sense of euery priuate spirit in which sort it may bee easilie accommodated to all heresies Whence it is euident that this rule so taken serueth not the turne whiles all is reduced to the iudgment of euery ones priuate spirit Thirdly if there were some iudge who in euery Controuerly wherein he were to giue sentence should so doe it as it could not be certainly vnderstood for whether party he pronounced the sentence but both partyes should contend that the matter were adiudged and determined on their side and that the sentence of the Iudge was expresly plainly pronounced for them such an one in the opinion of all men could not be thought a competent Iudge sith no matter in cōtrouersie could bee determined or ended by sentence giuen by him For after sentence there would bee as greata contention about the sentence it selfe whether of them it might seeme to fauour as there had been before about the right that ech party had And such a Iudge is Holy Scripture if you take away the Churches interpretation and declaration and the exposition of the holy Fathers for as much as the sentence therof is euer such as it cannot bee euident to both parties whether of them it fauoureth whiles the one and the other doth stifly maintaine that it is most plaine that it holdeth and standeth for them And hence it is that controuersies bee neuer ended and therefore it is not onely a vaine but also a ridiculous thing to appoint the Scripture alone for Iudge For in euery controuersy there ought such a Iudge to be designed who may so giue sentence as it may be manifest to all and most of all to those parties on whose behalf the cause is adiuged otherwise such a controuersy can neuer be ended Wherfore those who make the Scripture alone the Iudge of matters in question do therin plainely manifest that they admit not any iudge at all by whome the cause may be determined besids their priuate iudgment alone For they do as if Titus and Caius hauing a suite at Law would not haue any other Iudge in the matter but Iustinian his Code together with the Pandects without hauing any thing to do with the interpretation of Doctors and Titus producing for his owne right some law should by it maintayne that the cause was manifestly adiudged for him And Caius againe should deny it who by citing an other law for himselfe should say that it was cleare that that law fauoured made for him which Titus would in lake manner deny and so they should both depart without any decision of the cause or controuersy in hand would it not be a matter worthy of laughter and all would say that neyther of them desired the determination or decision of the cause And that neyther admitted other Iudge then his owne iudgment In the very like manner in this that they wil not haue any other Iudge then Scripture and euery one reserueth the interpretatiō thereof to his owne spirit they plainely shew that they haue no will that the cause should be decided or defined by any lawfull way nor to admit any Iudg but their owne iudgment Fourthly how very insufficient this rule of beliefe is experience it selfe plainely teacheth For we see that there is not any end of controuersies among them euen about the greatest matter of fayth sith at this very tyme the Lutherans Caluinists