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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A28893	An answer to Doctor Good (so called) his Dialogue against those call'd Quakers wherein he hath forged the Quaker and confuted himself, which dialogue of Tho. Good's is in his book intituled Firmianus and Dubitantius, or certain dialogues concerning atheism, infidelity, popery, and other heresies and schisms, which trouble the peace of the Church &c. / by Edward Bourn.	Bourne, Edward, d. 1708.	1675 (1675)	Wing B3845; ESTC R27869	17,048	26

justified by Faith in Christ Jesus which the Work of Faith which works by Love is not denyed by the Apostle nor us if thou denyest that thy Faith is dead Further thou say'st that we say That a State of Perfection and Freedom from Sin is attainable in this Life Answ Do we err in holding that a State of Perfection and Freedom from Sin is attainable in this Life Did not God say to Abraham I am Almighty God walk before me and be thou perfect Gen. 17. 1. And did not Christ say in his Sermon in the Mount Be you therefore Perfect as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect And art thou of that Faith and Belief that God and Christ doth command us to do that which we cannot by his Help and Assistance do 'T is true we cannot keep the Commands of Christ of our selves but by his Assistance we are able to do the same else why did the Apostle say I can do all Things through Christ that strengthneth me And did not the Saints know a Freedom from Sin in this Life Friend I tell thee if thou say'st a Freedom from Sin is not attainable in this Life thou must deny the Scriptures of Truth and give the Apostle the Lye for doth not the Apostle say to the Romans But now being made free from Sin and become Servants to God ye have your Fruit unto Holiness and the End Everlasting Life Rom. 6. 22. And doth not the Apostle say concerning himself For the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the Law of Sin and Death Therefore stop thy Mouth for Shame from speaking of those Things which thou ought'st not and thy Pen from so writing concerning us certainly God will judge thee for thy Lyes and Slanders against us Thou say'st That our Positions are contrary to the sacred Scriptures but by this thy Evil Work it appeareth that thou art contrary to the Scriptures and not we who hast manifested thy Ignorance of what the Scriptures say and hast appeared contrary to what thy self hast learned in thy young Dayes and since for ought that I know to the contrary hast caused others to learn viz. That when thou camest to Age thou wouldst according to what was promised and vowed in thy stead by thy God-fathers and God-mothers in thy Baptism so called forsake the Devil and all his Works And if thou hast not learned thus not caused any thus to learn I am sure that I and many more were caused thus to learn in our youthful Dayes I believe however thou ownest thy self a Member of that Church that teacheth thus to say though not to do and so thou may'st be a Sayer of the Word but not a Doer of it but now thou art neither Sayer nor Doer and so in that Estate can'st not be justified of God for as thou hast doubtless read in the Scriptures It is not the Sayers of the Word that are justified but the Doers of it Now he that forsakes the Devil and all his Works he must cease from all Sin and abstain from every Appearance of Evil for all Sin is of the Devil Again we say say'st thou That there is a Light in every Man sufficient to guide him to Salvation Answ Is it an Errorth us to hold seeing John saith speaking of Christ That is the true Light which lighteth every Man that cometh into the World And hath not God given his Son Christ Jesus for a Light to the Gentiles that he might be his Salvation unto the Ends of the Earth And doth not the Apostle say For God who commanded the Light to shine out of Darkness hath shined in our Hearts to give the Light of the Knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ and see John 14. 26. 16. 7 8 9 10 11 12 13. Consider of these Scriptures and then tell us whether it be any Error to hold that there is a Light in every Man sufficient to guide him unto Salvation or to hold the contrary and so whether it is not thou that errst from Scripture and the true and right Way of the Lord and not we Again say'st thou We hold that the Scripture is not the Word of God or a standing Rule of Faith and Manners Answ We own the Scriptures to be what they speak of themselves according to Luke's Preface where he writes of the Gospel c. But the Word is God if John wrote the Truth which we believe he did as thou may'st see John 1. 1. And I hope thou wilt not presume to say to the contrary but we own the Scriptures that which Holy Men spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost to be the Words of God and that which was the Saints Rule we own to be our Rule as the Scriptures testifie thereof see John 16. 13. c. and Tit. 2. 11 12. But thou manifests thy self to be contrary to the Rule both of Scripture and Spirit that does by thy Neighbours and Country-men as thou would'st not be done by Again thou say'st That we hold that there is no Resurrection of the Dead Answ We do own the Resurrection of the Dead according to the Scriptures as thou may'st see 1 Cor. 15. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 c. And further see Ver. 29. 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38. c. So I say we own the Resurrection of the Dead according to the Scriptures and if thou hold'st it otherwise it is thou that errest therein and not we Again thou say'st We hold there is no need of Ordinances as Baptism and the Lord's Supper Answ We own that Baptism that 's according to the Scriptures but not that which is contrary to them which is according to the Traditions and Inventions of Men and the Supper of the Lord we own according to the Scriptures though not such a Supper which some take before Dinner and call it the Lord's Supper So be humbled before the Lord and repent of the Wrong thou hast done us herein Again we hold say'st thou That 't is Vnlawful to take an Oath before a Magistrate upon any Account whatsoever Answ Is it an Error in us to keep the Commandment of Christ herein who saith Swear not at all and the Commandment of the Apostle who saith But above all Things my Brethren swear not see Mat. 5. 33 34 35 36 37. Jam. 5. 12. Friend was it not commanded by Christ and his Apostle that we should not swear at all no not by any Oath And what must we err for doing according to Christ's Commands herein Oh sad that one who taketh upon him to be a Minister of Christ should hold to the contrary and teach others so Friend repent of those Things and do so no more that these Words of Christ may not come to pass concerning thee viz. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least Commandments and shall teach Men so to do he shall

VVhat is that Practice of ours that is against the very Light of Nature as well as plain Scripture which thou callest a meer levelling Device of our Seducers the Popish Priests and Jesuits c. Is it in not respecting Per●ons in that Way which the VVorld doth with Cap and Knee Is this the Respect thou lookest for from us Hast thou learned Christ no better then so Did not Christ reprove such as lov'd Greetings in the Markets and to be called of Men Rabby Rabby And did not Christ say to the Jews I receive not Honour from Men and how can ye believe which receive Honour one of another and seek not the Honour which cometh from God only See Mat. 23. 1 2 3 4 5 6 c. and John 5. 41. 44. Is this contrary to the very Light of Nature then may'st thou say Christ's Doings were contrary to the very Light of Nature thou may'st with Shame enough give over thus abusing the Scriptures and us who dost not know that which thou callest the very Light of Nature nor the Scriptures to guide thee nor to say as thou dost herein but the contrary So it is thee that art contrary to the very Light of Nature and the Scriptures and not we Therefore thou false Accuser Repent of thy false Accusations against us herein And as for the Popish Priests and Jesuites whom thou falsly say'st have seduced us herein I say thou belyest them in these Things who are one with thee in those Things thou practisest more then one with us in what we practise and so 't is more probable that thee and such as thou art are seduced by them because your Practices do better acccord and agree with the Practice of the Popish Priests and Jesuites then ours do and so both denyed by us And what is the Honour thou would'st be honoured withall viz. with putting off the Hat and bowing the Knee to thee Can Honour and Reverence be shewn no other VVay but by this VVay Certainly one Man may have a good Esteem of another in his Heart and yet not shew it by such Gestures as these else why doth the Apostle say Honour all Men in the Lord So People may have a good Esteem of each other in their Hearts without shewing it by such Gestures as thou would'st have them to shew it by 'T is possible one Man may bow to another and say to him Your humble Servant Sir as if he were ready and willing to do him Good and yet for all that would if he had an Oportunity for it do him an Injury what are these the laudable Customs thou would'st have us do and practise Friend what by the Light of the Lord we are led unto in these Things we can do but that which is contrary to his Holy Light we may not do lest we make our selves Transgressors against him thereby Again Thou sayest in thy Dubitantius Truly I have often admired at the Vncivil Behaviour of the Quakers in saying THOV and THEE to their Betters in not Bowing the Knee or putting off the Hat to their Superiours Answ Is not Thou and Thee most proper to speak to One Person seeing You signifies more then One And if I say You when I speak but to One I speak Contrary to the Truth seeing You signifies more then One or Many is it not according to the Scriptures to say Thou to One when one speaks but to One Was it not the Language of Almighty God to Adam in Paradice And did not Adam say Thou to God again see Gen. 3. 9. 12. And frequently in the Scriptures Thee and Thou we find was used to One and what is it Uncivil in us to speak as we find it is recorded in the Scriptures of Truth herein Oh! blush for Shame for so saying And now tell us who is contrary to the Sccriptures Thee or Us speak the Truth herein And wherein may one Man be said to be Better then another except it be in his being more Honest and Just then another and so in being more in the Truth then another is 'T is not because one man is better by Blood then another seeing God made of one Blood all Nations One man may be better in his Estate then another but how that man can be a better man then another I know not except in his Estate seeing God made all Nations of one Blood But thou who art for Respecting of Persons committest Sin who art contrary to Christ and contrary to his Apostle and the Scriptures and so art judged by the Scriprures and by the Spirit of Truth from which they were given forth for our Civil Behaviour to any does not lie in putting off our Hats Again Thou sayest in thy Firmianus But pray you what think you of their pitching a certain Price upon their Commodities of which they will not bate one Farthing c Answ Wouldst thou make it a Crime in us to keep to what we say If we say in case we are selling a Commodity to any Person We will not sell it under such a Rate or Price is not thus to do to keep Christ Jesus our Lord's Command herein who sayes Let your Yea be Yea and your Nay Nay for whatsoever is more then these cometh of Evil And can we do that which is Honest and Right in the Sight of God herein and do otherwise For shame give over Writing and Speaking against those things which in themselves are good and ought by every true Christian to be observed Again Thomas Good saith in his Dubitantius concerning us I believe That these men most of them are as great Cheats as ny in the World Answ But what is thy Reason for thy thus saying If thou believest that the most of us are as great Cheats as any in the World thou shouldst shew why thou so believest Thomas Good this will not serve for thy Purpose herein What! Must People believe thus of us because thou dost People that be wise will not believe what thou sayest of us herein except thou canst shew a better Reason for thy so believing of us then thou hast Indeed thou givest no Reason at all but 't is only thy so saying without giving or shewing any Reason for it But it may be thou thinkest If thou sayest thou believest it it is sufficient for others to believe so too But I tell thee Nay that will not serve for thy Purpose herein for they that be Wise will require some further Testimony for thy so saying then thy bare Words in saying Thou believest so of us And so thou hast manifested thy own Folly and Envy in this Matter Again Thou sayst in thy Dubitantius I did once believe them to be great Contemners of the World Meek Humble Lowly c. but 't is evident they are quite contrary to what they seem to be for sayest thou I know that most of them are Extreamly Covetous and Narrow-breasted without all Bowels of Pitty or Mercy towards those that