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A68585 A dialogue of dying wel. First written in the Italian tongue, by the reuerend father Don Peeter of Luca, a chanon regular, a Doctor of Diuinitie and famous preacher. VVherin is also contayned sundry profitable resolutions, vpon some doubtful questions in diuinitie. Translated first into French, and novv into English; Dottrina del ben morire. English [Pietro da Lucca].; Verstegan, Richard, ca. 1550-1640. 1603 (1603) STC 19815; ESTC S114608 35,811 112

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a spiritual consolation and to fulfil without offence to God a desire to know such a thing that this is no sinne Notwithstanding hold thow that opinion which moste pleaseth thee so that thow haue the vertue of humilitie ioyned with godly and holy desire The sixt question THE sixt question was whether hee that hath alwayes liued il neuer hath made preparation for death being now at the point of death may at that instant sufficiently prepare himself to dy The Ermite answered saying sonne so long as a man liueth and hath the vse of reason hee may alwayes dispose and prepare himself to dy wel But in truth I say vnto thee that of ten thowsand men that delay it to the last instant their is not one saued This is the iudgement of S. Hierome and S. Augustine and verie wel knowne and manifest to other holy doctors therefore I wil not go about to multiplie wordes in vayne The seuēth question THE seuenth question was whether the deuil do appeare to all those that dy The Ermite answered saying that ordinarily the deuils appeare to all in the end of their lyues as may be proued by the authoritie of diuers holy men The ordinary glosse explicating these woordes of Geneses Tu insidiaberis calcaneo eius that is Genes 3. Thow shalt ly in wayt euen at his heel saith that this is to be vnderstood to be at the end of mannes lyf To the same purpose Ecclesiasticus also saith Sunt spiritus qui ad vindictam creati sunt in tempore consummationis effundunt virtutem suam that is to say their be spirits which were created for reuenge and at the tyme of consumation they do shew their force which authority S. Vincent and other Doctors expound of deuils that appeare at the tyme of death And S. Gregorie saith that the deuil so much the more diligently tempteth a man in the end of his lyfe as he knoweth hee hath lesse tyme to tempt him Thesame S. Gregorie also wryteth that the deuil in the end of lyfe appeereth aswel to the good as the euil yea and that hee durst appeer to Christe himself beeing on the crosse If then this wicked spirit came to Christe on the crosse how much more boldly wil hee appeere to all other yf it be not that some through the spetial grace and priuiledge of almighty God be exempted from such a diuelish apparition as wee read of our blessed Ladie in some bookes of smalle authoritie that she asked and obtayned of her blessed sonne that at her death she should not see any wicked spirit or deuil The eight question THE eight question was whether our Sauiour Christe discend corporally to the particuler iudgment of all those that dy The Ermite answered that to some it seemeth hee doth and they confirme their opinion with authoritie of holy scripture in the actes of the Apostles where it is said of our Lord. Act. 10. Ipse est qui constitutus est à Deo iudex viuorum mortuorum that is to say it is hee that is appoynted of God the iudge of the quick and the dead And in S. Iohn the 5. Chap. it is written Pater omne iudicium dedit filio that is to say God the father gaue all iudgement to his sonne But to some other this opinion seemeth not credible because it happeneth that in one and the self same tyme diuers persons dy in diuers places and it is not conuenable that Christes humanitie in one instant should bee to this end in so many places and therefore they say our blessed Sauiour doth not discend personally to giue this particuler iudgmēt but rather committeth that office to the good Angel that is giuen vs for our gard giuing him authoritie as iudge to end and execute the proces and sentences to him appoynted and the Angel so made iudge condemneth or absolueth the soule according to iustice and after guideth it to the place assigned eyther in heauen in hell or in purgatorie according as it hath deserued But to the vniuersal iudgment our blessed Sauiour himself wil discend and iudge the quick and the dead And in this sence they expound the authoritie before aleaged The nynth question THE nynth question was whether our Sauiour Christe appeare at the hower of death generallie to all men good and il The Ermite answered that some great doctors haue said that hee dothe and to approue thesame they alleage the authoritie of Pope Innocent the third in the second book de conditione vilitatis humane that is of the misery of man where it is said that all men aswel good as bad do see Iesus Christe before the soule go out of the bodie The good to their great consolation and the euil to their great confusion to the end that by such apparance they may be ashamed to haue lost through their negligence the precious fruit of their redemption And albeit this bee the opinion of very famous doctors yet do I not fynde it sufficiently confirmed by authority of holy scripture for this reason there are others that do not concur in this opinion though yet very Godly and deuout About this matter then I wil make none other resolution but that I hold for certayne that our benigne and mercyful redeemer appeareth to many in the end of their lyues as by innumerable examples and approued histories it may be verefyed but that hee appeareth to all vniuersally I neyther affirme nor deny The tenth question THE tenth was whether the particuler iudgement bee immediatly after the soule is gon out of the bodie or that there bee some space of tyme before the sentence of the said iudgement be giuen The Ermite answered that ordinarilie without delay after the soule be separated from the bodie it receyueth his particuler iudgment with the sentence of damnation or saluation according to the condition of his merits But verie trew it is that Omnis regula patitur exceptionem euery rule suffereth exception Therefore some soules after their separation attend a good space before their particuler iudgement be giuen as wee read of a famous Doctor of Paris who was reputed a man of holy lyfe but beeing dead whyles they made his funeralles in the Churche hee lifted vp his head as he lay on the beere in the presence of many people a great nūber of maisters Doctors in diuinitie and diuers schollers and said Ad iudiciam vocatus sum that is I am called to iudgement and then layd himself down againe wherevpō it was ordayned that hee should not be buried vntil the next day and so the day following hee did the like for lifting vp his head againe hee said Iudicatus sum I am iudged And there vpon his burial was deferred til the third day when as hee in lyke manner as twyce before lifting vp his head said aloud Condemnatus sum I am condemned whereby it is manifest that this particuler iudgement continued for the space