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A10909 An answere vnto a wicked & infamous libel made by Christopher Vitel, one of the chiefe English elders of the pretended Family of Loue maintaining their doctrine, & carpingly answeringe to certaine pointes of a boke called the displaing of the Fam. Aunswered by I. Rogers. Rogers, John, fl. 1560-1580.; Vitell, Christopher, fl. 1555-1579. 1579 (1579) STC 21180; ESTC S116065 74,007 215

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