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A57953	Quakerism is paganism, by W.L.'s confession; in a book directed to Mr. N.L. citizen of London: or, Twelve of the Quakers opinions, called by W.L. The twelve pagan principles, or opinions; for which the Quakers are opposed to Christians examined and presented to William Penn. By W. R. a lover of Christianity.	Russel, William, d. 1702.; Roberts, Daniel, 1658-1727. aut	1674 (1674)	Wing R2358; ESTC R219761	57,659	96

came out of the Rock 5. It 's called A spiritual Rock because it was Typical of Christ and that the Believers among them did as truly partake of Christ by Faith spiritually as They the rest of the Multitude and their Cattel did drink of the water of the Rock literally And in the same sense that the MANNA is called Spiritual Meat vers 3. They did all eat the same spiritual Meat so is the water of the Rock called spiritual Drink They did all drink the same spiritual Drink Now we may not conclude from hence That that Rock was really Christ or that he was called Christ with respect to what he was before he was manifested in the flesh But on the contrary it 's to be understood of the Faith they had in the promised Messias that was to come whereof that Rock was a Type So that this manner of speaking agrees with that saying of our Saviour Abraham rejoyced to see my day and he saw it and was glad John 8. 56. which was not really by an Ocular view of his Person as being then present but by the Faith he had in the Promise that he should be revealed in the fulness of Time for it is said of Abraham and the rest of the Faithful mentioned Heb. 11. 13. These all died in Faith not having received the Promises but having seen them afar off and were perswaded of them The principal of which was The promise of the Messias that was to come Object But it may be objected That in Psal 2. 2. in the Latin Bible translated by Beza it is said Et contra Christum ejus And against his Christ And the like in Dan. 9. Therefore he is called Christ before he was manifested in the flesh I answer 1. It 's true he is called Christ Messiah and the Anointed in those places And if we will believe a very Learned Author of our time he saith The name of Messiah is but twice or thrice at most used in the Old-Testament directly and immediately to denote the promised Seed namely Dan. 9. 25 26. whereunto Psal 2. 2. may be added J. Owen D. D. Exercit. 9. on the Epistle to the Hebrews p. 95. So that these are all the places in the Old-Testament wherein he is so called 2. That it is also true That the word in the Hebrew is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Mashiach both in Psal 2. and Dan. 9. which signifies Anointed and is applied to our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ So that I grant all that is in the Objection But it doth not thence follow That because he is is called so before that it doth not respect what he was to be when and after he was manifested in the flesh but the contrary is manifest by the scope of those Texts to any considering person For in Psal 2. it is said The Kings of the Earth have set themselves and the Rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his Christ Now in Acts 4. 25 26 27 28 29. upon the Threatnings they had from the Rulers Chief Priests and Elders c. they apply these very words upon that occasion Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said The Kings of the Earth stood up and the Rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against his Christ for of a truth against thy Holy Child Jesus whom thou hast Anointed both Herod and Pontius Pilate with the Gentiles and the People of Israel were gathered together for to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done And now Lord behold their Threatnings and grant unto thy servants that with all boldness they may speak thy Word By stretching forth thy hand to heal and that signs and wonders may be done by the Name of thy Holy Child Jesus So that you may see that this opposition in the Kings against Christ was upon the account of his being manifest in the flesh and introducing a new Doctrine and Religion in the World which set them in a rage against him and his Disciples And this is the plain meaning of this Text. And in Dan. 9. it 's said Know therefore and understand That from the going forth of the Commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off but not for himself And the People of the Prince that shall come shall destroy the City and the Sanctuary and the end thereof shall be with a flood and unto the end of the War desolations are determined All these things were yet to come when this was spoken and not fulfilled till the days of his flesh For here is his own death expresly prophesied of the destruction of Jerusalem and of the Temple and the Desolation of that Nation Object But it is objected by Geo. Keith But I prove that he was Jesus Christ before he took flesh Eph. 3. 9. Who created all things by Jesus Christ Reply 1. I grant That God did Create all things by Jesus Christ But it was as he was God and not as he is a man in the flesh And yet as such he was the Christ of God being Anointed with the Spirit as is shewed above 2. If this be true that G. K. saith That he was both Anointed and a Saviour before the World was 3. I would then know 1. How he came to be in a capacity to receive that Anointing seeing then he was only God 2. Who Anointed him seeing you say There is no distinction of Persons in the Divine Essence 3. What sinners were there for him to save before any thing was created For he is called Jesus because he came to save his People from their sins Matth. 1. 21. But I take this to be the genuine sense of that Text Ephes 3. 9. That he being then best known by the names of Jesus and Christ and known to be a real and true Man the Apostle would let them know that he was also truly God seeing he did Create all things But was so far from being Jesus Christ then that he saith the knowledg of his Revelation according to the Gospel was so great a Mystery and so little known that from the beginning of the World it hath been hid in God and was now revealed according to the Eternal purpose of God which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord Which in other Ages was not made known to the Sons of Men as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit as you may see at large in this Chapter So that he intends not by these words that he was then the Saviour Anointed any more than the Scripture doth intend he was really slain from the Foundation of the World and yet it is said so Rev. 13. 8. by him who calls things that are not as though they were because he hath decreed it and his Decrees shall be accomplished But by the same Rule G. K. might as

is will be as hard a Task as it was to one Simonides to tell what God was but still we are as wise as before Ans Truly I don't expect to be made wiser by this discourse of thine about the Soul but give me leave to ask thee a few questions about it notwithstanding thy considence in saying It 's strange we should differ about we know not what 1. Dost thou believe the Soul of Man was Created 2. Dost thou not believe God to be Increated to subsist of and from himself and from no other 3. Dost thou believe it possible for the Blessed Creator of all things to become a Creature or for a Creature to be made God Blessed for evermore and to be without beginning and infinite He that can believe this may easily believe Transubstantiation I would have W. P. and W. L. consult together once more and see if they can invent some Answer that may Reconcile these 2 Propositions 1. That the Soul of Man was Created 2. That the Soul is God himself without beginning and infinite The first is asserted by God himself Esay 57. 16. The Souls which I have made The latter is asserted by themselves for they say the Soul is a part of God's Being c. and in this case that known Maxim will stand good Quidquid est in Deo est Deus Whatsoever is in God is God Now if they cannot Reconcile them if I come to be put to my choyce whether I will Believe God's Word or Their's I shall not only believe what God hath spoken but also that his Word will certainly stand against them for Evil. Jer. 44. ult For they have rejected the Word of the Lord and what Wisdom is in them Now I hope W. L. may see notwithstanding all that he hath said That though the Soul of Man be made Immortal and can never Die yet it had not always a Being it is not without beginning there being a time when it was not and that it is not infinite and God himself But I wonder W. L. should say that it is so hard to know what the Soul is he forgets sure that the Quakers have a light in them that they say can teach them all things if they cannot know what it is now the Scripture hath so plainly told them that Man hath a Soul surely they would have been hard put to it to have told us that and all other things Recorded in Scripture concerning God the Man Christ Jesus the Holy Spirit and the Souls of Men if they had not been written there Notwithstanding they have often told us That they could have known all those things contained in the Bible if they had never been written But I am glad we are not forced to be beholding to them for the knowledg thereof for if we were I have ground to conclude we must go without it for I have often asked What some of those things were that our Saviour did when he was upon the Earth that are not written But they could never tell me one of them Pagan Principle the 3d. THe Third Opinion charged on the Quakers is That Jesus Christ is not a distinct Person without us W. L. His Answer is These Expressions being not in Scripture are not owned by them and why we should impose them I know not Reader here is a plain confession that the Quakers do not own Jesus Christ to be a Distinct Person without us therefore T. H. is no Forger But I will examine his Reason why they do not own it It is saith he Because it is not expressed in the Scripture Now in case that supposition were true that cannot be the Reason why the Quakers do deny it 1. For first They deny the Scriptures to be a Rule of Faith and Practice unto Christians and therefore though they may sometimes make use of them against those that own them Argumentum ad hominem as I may make use of the saying of a Heathen Poet against a Heathen yet it 's shameful for a Quaker having exploded them in print from being a Rule of Faith to bring this as a Reason why they do not own it because as they say it is not written in Scripture and as W. P. doth in calling this Doctrine of T. H. Vnscriptural seeing all the real ground a Quaker can have to own any Doctrine is Because he is Taught it by the Light within and the pretence of any other proof to himself is but vain for that 's the Question Whether the Quakers themselves do believe Christ to be a Distinct Person without them 2. But Secondly These Expressions of T. H. are no more in effect than if I should say in other words That Christ is a Man without us and is he not called in Scripture the MAN Christ Jesus 1 Tim. 2. 5. For surely to say he is a MAN is to suppose him both to be distinct and a Person without us Obj. But Christ is said to be in his People and to dwell in them Ans I grant it but the Scripture saith it is by the Spirit 1 John 4. 13. Hereby know we that we dwell in him and he in us because he hath given us of his Spirit Chap. 3. 24. And hereby we know that he abideth in us by the Spirit which he hath given us neither is this to be understood of the Essence but of the Gifts and Graces of the Spirit therefore it 's said so Ephes 3. 16 17. where the Apostle prayes that they might be strengthened with Might by his Spirit in the inner Man That Christ may dwell in your Hearts by FAITH 3. But thirdly I will prove that Christ is called a PERSON in Scripture Matt. 27. 24. Pilate saith I am innocent of the Blood of this JUST PERSON If they say he was a wicked man that said so then it seems a wicked Man did own more concerning Christ than a Quaker is willing to do But I can prove that the Apostle Paul useth that very Expression 2 Cor. 2. 10. For your sakes forgave I it in the PERSON of CHRIST and this doth not only prove Christ to be a PERSON but also that he is a DISTINCT PERSON without us Because Paul doth here tell the Church that in that Act he did Represent the PERSON of Christ he being in respect of his HUMANE NATURE absent and in Heaven and that he acted in his stead But surely the Opposition the Quakers make against the PERSON of Christ is wholly Vnscriptural Never any true Minister or Christian mentioned in Scripture did ever oppose this Doctrine of Christ's being a Distinct PERSON without us if they did let them shew it us in their Next 4. But Fourthly Seeing Syllogizing which they formerly condemned is now grown into Fashion among them I will give them one Argument to prove Christ Jesus to be a REAL and True MAN If all the Properties of a Humane Person were found in Christ then he was a Real and True Man But all the

upon his Offices with the holy Spirit As the Priests Prophets and Kings under the Law were anointed with Oyl when they entred upon Theirs see Matth. 3. 16 17. And Jesus when he was baptized went up straightway out of the water And lo the Heavens were opened unto him and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a Dove and lighting upon him And lo a voice from Heaven saying This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased Heb. 1. 9. Therefore God even thy God hath Anointed thee with the Oyl of Gladness above thy fellows Luke 4. 17 18 21. And there was delivered unto him the Book of Esaias the Prophet and when he had opened the Book he found the place where it is written The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he hath anointed me to preach the Gospel c. And applied this to his own Person as being then fulfilled Then he began to say unto them This day is this Scripture fulfilled in your ears The word which God sent unto the Children of Israel was this That God had Anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with Power who went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the Devil for God was with him Acts 10. 38. Now by this we may see that as his Name is so is the Person to whom it is given for he being Anointed with the Holy Spirit above his fellows he is properly and truly the Lord 's Christ Thirdly That this Name cannot be properly and really applied to the Divine Nature taken Abstractively And my Reason for it is this Because some of those things which were done by the Man Christ Jesus could not have been performed by the Divine Nature in the sense before defined 1. Because if they could there had then been no need for him to have been a man made of a woman to be made flesh and dwell among men to have been exposed to all those sufferings and sorrows which befel him in the days of his flesh while he was upon the earth 2. Because Christ died for our sins according to the Scripture 1 Cor. 15. 3. But the Divine Nature taken Abstractively cannot die For besides this Consideration viz. That the Nature of the Divine Essence cannot possibly admit of it and it 's horrid Blasphemy to assert it So on the contrary it is positively affirmed That God lives for ever If I lift up my hand to Heaven and say I live for ever Deut. 32. 40. yea he swears by himself As I live saith the Lord Isa 49. 18. The name of the Lord the Everlasting God Gen. 21. 33. For thus saith the High and Losty One that inhabiteth Eternity Isa 57. 15. whos 's goings forth have been from of old from everlasting Micah 5. 2. Lord thou hast been our dwelling-place in all Generations Before the Mountains were brought forth or ever thou hadst formed the Earth and the World even from everlasting to everlasting thou art God Psal 90. 1 2. And God said unto Moses I AM that I AM Thus shalt thou say unto the Children of Israel I AM hath sent me unto you This is my name for ever And this is my Memorial unto all Generations Exod. 3. 14 15. The Certainty Perpetuity and Eternity of Gods Being assures Believers of the Certainty and Accomplishment of all his Promises seeing they know he is faithful and cannot lie nor cease to be For if he could do either it would take away all the Foundation of our Faith and Hope in God his Word and Promises But there are some Objections urged by the Quakers in print against this Truth in these words W. P. Askes this Question Was he the Christ of God before he was manifested in the flesh Mr. Ives answers He was the Son of God Quest W. P. But was he the Lords Christ And turns this Answer to it himself Answ W. P. saith I will prove him to have been the Lords Christ as well before as after 1. From the Apostle Paul's words to the Corinthians That Rock was Christ 2. Next from Jude where some Greek Copies have it thus That Jesus brought the people of Israel out of Egypt See The Quakers Account of the Barbican-Meeting p. 24. Reply I will answer to the last first If W. P. have seen any such Greek Copies he should have cited them and told us what they are Till which time I shall account it as the effect of passion stirred up in the defence of a bad cause But surely W. P. forgot himself to bring this Allegation for if this be brought to prove any thing it is That he as Jesus was before he was manifested in the flesh Which name was never given to him till he came in the flesh And she shall bring forth a Son and thou shalt call his name Jesus And she brought forth her first-born Son and he called his name Jesus Matth. 1. 21 25. Besides our English Translation doth very well agree with the Greek for in Jude v. 5. which is the place he refers to the word is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and in our Translation Lord which is the express signification of the word and so rendred in multitudes of places in the New-Testament And this can be brought by W. P. for no better purpose than to undervalue the Scripture by quarrelling with the Translation though there be no cause Secondly As for those words in 1 Cor. 10. 4. That Rock was Christ I answer It 's meant not really but figuratively as appears by the precedent words vers 3 4. And did all eat the same spiritual meat and did all drink the same spiritual drink for they drank of the spiritual Rock that followed them and that Rock was Christ For it 's evident 1. That there was a Real and True Rock which Moses smote with his Rod and out of which the water gushed 2. That the people of Israel drunk of this Water to quench their thirst 3. That this was Real and True Water because their Cattel also drank thereof Numb 20. 11. He smote the Rock twice and the Water came out abundantly and the Congregation drank and their Beasts also 4. That the Water which came out of that Rock became Rivers and followed them in the Wilderness He brought streams also out of the Rock and caused waters to run down like Rivers Psal 78. 16. Behold he smote the Rock that the waters gushed out and the streams overflowed ver 20. And they thirsted not when he led them through the Deserts And in the next words you have an Account how they were supplied in this their journey through the Deserts He caused the waters to flow out of the Rock for them He clave the Rock also and the water gushed out Isa 48. 21. He opened the Rock and the waters gushed out they ran in the dry places like a River Psal 105. 41. And therefore it 's said The Rock followed them Which by a Metonymie is meant the water that