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A85071 The Faithfull narrative of the late testimony and demand made to Oliver Cromwel, and his powers, on the behalf of the Lords prisoners, in the name of the Lord Jehovah (Jesus Christ,) king of saints and nations. Published by faithful hands, members of churches (out of the original copies) to prevent mistakes, and misreports thereupon. To the faithful remnant of the Lamb, who are in this day of great rebuke and blasphemy, ingaged against the beast and his government, especially, to the new non-conforming churches, and saints in city and country, commonly called by the name of fifth monarchy men. Horton, Hur. 1655 (1655) Wing F278; Thomason E830_20; ESTC R207450 41,484 44

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sometimes they said he was too hold and plaid the Antick like Caple and at other times to contradict themselves sufficiently they said he was so pusillanimous that he stood and trembled before them and what not c. Now although it is notoriously known by us and others that they are all most grosse forged untruths and Court devices fetcht from the Father of lies who is now more busie than ever against the Lords faithfull ones to render them odious and obnoxious yet not with any desire to vindicate his or their persons for we commend them to the God of truth in whose eyes we and thousands we think we may say in England are perswaded they are very pretious their God who is the Saints refuge especially when they be in sufferings prisons persecutions or the like for them they must look to lie under the lash of all mens tongues almost and no wonder if Mr. Rogers do now more than ever by the great man himself as well as by his creatures since that day of his Appearance before him suffer so much But the great God that heareth prayers for him and his suffering brethren will doubtlesse deliver them avenge them of their Adversaries and judge righteously as Psal 37.6 to bring forth their righteousnesse as the light and their innocency as the noon day with a Daniels Answer cap. 6.2 My God bath sent his Angel and shut the Lyons mouths that they have not hurt me Forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me yet we say for the truths sake lest the testimony should suffer We shall and must Declare against that Generation of lyers and deceivers as Apostates use to be who go about and spread abroad false reports of the wayes and People of God by Letters messengers or Pamphlets purposely to poyson poore people with-all knowing the advantage they have by our forced silence seeing we are not suffered to print or any other wayes publish the truth for our selves If it were not lawfull to commit Fornication with the Moabites to draw them to the true Religion or if it be unlawfull to steal to relieve the poore it is much more unlawful by lies obloquies or blasphemies to win the poor people to their false way Wherefore in love to the Lord Jesus and this his blessed testimony now up we bring the truth of the whole Matter of the discourse to light whereat none we hope will be offended but those that love darknes rather than light because their deeds are evill John 3. For the honest Tradesman is content to have his Wares carried into the Sun from a dim shop-board 2. It is and hath been but now more than ever since the Court-glosses have been printed and published upon it the earnest desire expectation and indeed Call of many of the Saints to have as true a Narrative of the late Testimonies as we could publish but seeing as Jer. 9.3 saith None so valliant for the truth whileft the wicked Apostates proceed from evill to evill and knowing no other are so well accommodated to undertake it as some of us who were either ear witnesses or Writers hereof we reso've to publish it and therefore have compared the papers together that were taken in Characters and have given this accompt which we believe is as well taken as could be in such a crowd and among such interruptions confusions and disturbances we do not say to every individual word point or circumstance but in all the material passages to the best of our knowledge observation or remembrance 3. It is of some concernment to all the Remnant of the Womans seed in City and Country to know how far the Remnant in London with this Testimony of Jesus and Cause have gone and are ingaged and how high it is got up now and what kind of Esau-like Spirit it is that opposes it which you may see in the History following by the variety of passages providences and occurrences and who knows but it may a little warm them that are cold and enliven them that are dead and stir up them that are drowsie and comfort them that are drooping and unite them that are differing and incourage them that are fainting whether in Churches or out in the Countries to consider their work also at this day and what it is the Lord calls them to with their poor Brethren that now suffer in the three Nations for the Lord Jesus and his Cause against the Mighty left they also by their sleepinesse and silence incur the curse Judges 5.26 which God forbid for these and many other reasons are we stirred up to this Narrative seeing as Ahab did send for Michaiah 2 Chran 18. to see if he would say Go up and prosper as his own Prophets did say to him and as Ahab said v. 15. I adjure thee say nothing but the truth which when he said he would not suffer but said as v. 25. carry him back put this fellow in prison and feed him with the bread of affliction so also was Mr. Rogers remanded to his Bonds in Lambeth with more Severity than before too Neither are we without our Temptations in this little businesse for the Lamb some of which that have assaulted us arise from fear of giving offence but when we considered our Call that was soon quelled because offence is taken and not justly given by us herein seeing we are commanded by Gods word to remove the stumbling block of Lyes out of our Brothers way We had a holy Jealousie over our own spirit till we had tried them by Gods word and the Primitive practise of Saints Apostles Prophets and holy Men inspired by the Holy Ghost who ever spake and writ boldly in the name of the Lord for the Truth Jam. 5.10 and who are our example We consider how eagerly our enemies would gape for Advantage against us should they find the least mistake and possibly they will find many for as there is no pen so there is no man without Errataes yet for the Truths-sake so far as the Copies taken in short hand and our friends have agreed in one though we confesse it cannot be published so exactly as we could wish seeing we met with so much interruption as we said before the Lord knows we have been as faithful and impartial as we could befor our lives and we blesse our gracious Father we fear not what Flesh can do unto us as long as the Lord is with us and on our side and as long as we can claim protection from Jehovah our King by Covenant interest priviledge and propriety however some censure that sit at Stern as if we were ignorant of the Covenant of grace they shall find it other wise by the grace of our God ere it be long in the mean time an honest Jury man would rather have brought in an Ignoramus than an unjust and wicked verdict but we will wait with patience till the Lord appear to deliver us and till then we apply Psal 60.4 Thou hast
Jehovah and now that God alone might have the choice of the men another time was appointed to seek the Lord and then they all agreed to take their Call by Lot given in the name of the Lord so that after solemn looking up to heaven the Lot was given from the Lap Prov. 16.33 and the 18.18 and fell upon twelve but to observe the Lords wisdome those that they in their wisdome should probably and principally have pitched upon for parts utterance and abilities were by the Lords Lot put by yet this appearing so undeniably to be of God the same twelve were fully satisfied and accepted their Call afterward they agreed to go every one with his Bible in his hand upon the Message of the Church accordingly upon the 29 of the eleventh Moneth a solemn day of Prayer was kept and they were sent out in the name of the Lord Jesus the Contents of the Message with which they were intrusted is as followeth THE MESSAGE OF THE CHURCH To O. C. by the Twelve WE are sent unto you twelve of us in the name of our Lord Jesus The Message of the Twelve Brethren and of that Church Society whereof Mr. Rogers now prisoner for the Lord Jesus at Lambeth is overseer in the holy Ghost although we be poore despised worms and the weakest and unworthiest of the Lords Number or of the Body to which we are related and although we be not so able to speak as others of our Society might have been yet after much seeking the Lord to be with us and trusting in the strength and name of our Lord Christ by which we are come out this Day after the Seal of some promises upon our spirits in the strength of the anointing we are as well as the Lord shall enable us come to deliver our Message to you from the Lord and that First Because the Lot of the Lord is cast upon us The Reasons above others Secondly Because the Lord hath chosen the poore and most despised things to confound and appear against the wise and great ones of the world 1 Cor. 1.27 Thirdly Because we are bound to sympathise with the Saints in Bonds Heb. 13.3 in the defence of the Gospel Phil. 17.14 and the Apostle blames them that stood not by him in his bonds 1 Tim. 4.16 but we are resolved by the grace of our God to own and stand by these our Brethren the faithful Servants of the most High and true and faithful Ministers of Jesus Christ who are now persecuted and imprisoned by you and your Powers Fourthly Because the Primitive Saints who had a Primitive spirit which we pray for and are in dayly expectation of spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jam. 5. and the 10. and so must we to you in the plainnesse foolishnesse and simplicity of the Gospel without any Politick studied or artificial frame of words or expressions after the wisdome of the world or the Princes of the world 1 Cor. 2.6.8 2 Cor. 2.17 therefore it is we dare not give flattering titles to any man whose breath is in his nostrils Job 32.21 22. nor come we to make our petition to man but to God we do in these matters of our Faith and Consciences Nota. for which we contend this day and for which our dear Brethren are cruelly imprisoned at Lambeth meaning our Brother Rogers and Windsor meaning Mr. Feak 1. Wherefore in the name of our Lord Jesus and of that whole Society who have intrusted us on this errand we are to DEMAND the Lords prisoners those prisoners of hope at Lambeth and Windsor as due to Christ and his Churches whom ye have so unchristianly rent and torn from us we meaning the Churches and neither we nor they know for what to this day but we are perswaded The Testimony In the prison Mr. Feak Mr. Rogers Mr. Spitle-house Col. Overton Col. Allured Adj. Gen. Allen. with many others it is for their Faith and Conscience in the truth and Testimony of Jesus Christ against the foul Apostacies and sins of the times in professours whether in Powers Priests Armies or others that have cast off the true Cause and Interest of Christ and have taken up the Creatures instead thereof which can never stand This demand we make according to Isa 42.22.2 Chron. 28.11 2. And lastly though we never yet did it in publick yet so long as you go on thus we dare not but joyn with our* suffering Brethren viz. in what prisons soever for their Consciences and this Cause of Christ and declare and testifie against you and the rest that adhere unto you whether in Power or out so long as you are the Enemies of Christ and his Cause at this day which we must do with the words of truth and sobriety Since that M. Gen. Harrison Col. Courtney Col. Rich. M. Chary imprisoned the 16 day of this Moneth besides all in other contries and Scotland those there that are like to lose their lives by bloody Trials all these with many others suffering at this day for with the Testimony of a good conscience against men that have betrayed the cause of Christ Others have been imprisoned as Mr. Vavasor Powel Mr. Jo. Simson Col. Okey c. for the Lord will rend you and all up by the Roots that are not plants of his own planting and the great God will appear ere long to confound and destroy this spirit of persecution injustice and Tyranny which the poore Non-Conforming Saints feel so sorely and we pray you consider that of Asa 2 Chron. 16. though a good man and a great General and Conquerour when once he forsook the Lord relied on an arm of Flesh and began to imprison the Lords Prophet the hand of God was against him and so on others and so will his wrath be upon you and those that belong to you if you go on thus and if God give you not a true and timely repentance of these great sins which cry day and night for vengeance against you and yours and so do thousands of the poore persecuted Saints however you are made to believe therefore we pray you see if you will yet keep the Captives of the Lord Jer. 50 33 but mark it v. 34. so Isa 29.20.21 Psal 102.17 20 21. Psal 37.32 33.34 Psal 79.11 and saith Christ What you did unto these you did unto me and Acts 9. Saul Saul why persecutest thou me so fee in Matth. 18.28 30 34. see v. 35. Isa 49 24 25. Mal. 2.11 12. Now to conclude the day of Christ is at hand which will set them free and will ere long call you and all about you to Judgment for all these things that you have done and suffered to be done against the Lord Jesus and all his Saints and for all the blood of the Saints that hath been shed against this Interest and these evil things which you have set up again to the Joy of the wicked the grief of the godly and
accusing the good * So that the accusers of she good and grace of God is on that side by the informers and persecutors or grace of God but not for accusing evil or declaring against sin the evils of Apostacy persecution or the like but if you will read the Articles you may yet expect not a word of answer from me unlesse it be in an open and legal Court before a competent and fit Judge which you are not my Lord nor those about you but those things which are my due Right granted I am ready to answer them in Westminster-Hall where I believe the Lords remnant who are one with me in this caus will stand by me and at last you can have but a poor carcasse that is every day dying yet I am resolved with the help of God not to throw a way my life nor to betray this blessed cause so as to answer to I know not what Spurious and forged informations or charge in a Chamber grounded on malice or that which is worse nor will I be tried in Hugger-mugger but if I have offended it is fit I should have open Justice O.P. Who tries you and who sayes it is a Charge who calls it a charge I say not so and see before you bear them you call them Spurious with that he takes up one that was titled from Lambeth and was going to read somewhat One Abdy the chief informer that very day be came with his Keeper to look for his reward he was stabbed in Fleetstreet being imprisoned for Blasphe any Adultery Ranting Atheisme and the most horrid sins that ever were beard of R. Yea and I have good grounds so to do seeing they come from such kind of Informers as they are Then O.P. read one Article from Lambeth as that he should call him Oliver Cromwel that great dragon that fits at Whitehall pull him cut c. Ro. There is such stuffe as I abhor to have in my mouth but I shall for bear to answer and for that it is not worth the answering to O.P. These things will be proved B.H. One of the Twelve We desire the things our Brother Rogers suffers for may be publickly known to all for we apprehend he suffers for the Truth and the things which you hear you may that be misinformed in Ro. Therefore let me have a fair Hearing in a legal Court and I hope the Lord wil make me ready for what ever I must suffer right or wrong if it must be so but yet I tell you my Lord I fear not any thing that you can lay against me justly and honestly but the truth is you take up any thing that your Informers can handsomely patch together who like the devil take a bit here and a bit there that makes for their turn and you take it as it lies for granted presently O my Lord I cannot but mourn for you and your condition which is sad and to be bewailed and the rather for that you have so many about you who for their own ends to get the world into their hands do deceive you but the Lord will judge righteously ere long I am sure and let appear whether you or we have the best bottome to bear us up for I blesse the Lord the comforter is with me I think my condition through grace though a poor prisoner a great deal better than yours I would not change with you O.P. Well well you are known well enough and what spirit you are of we know you and to call your sufferings for Christ when they are for evil-doing is not wel yea it is blaspemy yea I say blasphemy again for all your * M. Rog. amazed at such language again lifted up his band and eys towards heaven appealing to God to judg righteously lifting up of your eys and I tell you yea you that in a good box of ointment a little thing a dead flie may spoil all yea a little flye Ro. I dare not my Lord justifie my self in my infirmities but I blesse the Lord I can apply Christs merits I beseech you speak not so reproachfully of the spirit of God to call it fanatick or an evil-evil-spirit for that is blasphemy so to do see Isa 63.10 neither call evil good or good evil for that is prevarication Isa 5.20 that which you judge Evil-doing the Lord judgeth well doing and my duty yet I must tell you the Lord never made you a Judge over our Faith nor of his Scripture whereof you take upon you O P. Well you know that the time was there was no great difference betwixt you and me I had you in my ey and did think of you for imployment and preferment you know it well enough Ro. True my Lord and then you could say to me you thought no man in England so fit but since the case is altered indeed but I pray consider who it is is changed surely it must be conscience that makes me suffer then through so many temptations as I have met with and I have often said let me be convinced by good words that I am an Evil-doer as you said and I would lay my Neck under you feet for mercy but till then I must keep my conscience One of the Grandees as we take it it was G. Desborough saies let the Informations be read let them be heard and then Scobell was called to read them not those from Lambeth but those that were * brought in from Tho. Apostle The Informations from Tho. Apostles read from what Mr. Rogers prayed what he preached and what they sang in Hymnes what he prayed was for the Prisoners of the Lord at Winsor and against the Tyranny of all Antichristian Powers and to that purpose and that God would hasten his Vials out upon them What he preached was out of Mat. 5. Agree with thine adversay Christ quickly The Articles against Mr Ro as well as they could be taken and be observed Appostateadulterate professors must agree quickly with Christ their Adversary applying it to the present Powers as such proving they break the 10. Commandements As the 1. In setting up Idols again a golden Calf so the Army and fleshly strength and the like are idolized whilest men say these are the gods that brought us up out of Egypt 2. Command is Graven images and so are the Tryers and high Court Commissioners such the inventions and graven images of mens making with their Seals Parchments black boxes and pick-locks * These Articles are many of them sals for matter and form as can be made appear by hundreds Padlocks and Keys for your Hog-sties Pig sties and Goose-stals 3. Command Take not my name in vain c. Such as have broke all their Declarations Ingagements and abused his Attributes using that name of God for their own ends are guilty of this 4. Command Remember that thou keep holy the c. speaking of soul-rest and saying that the present Powers kept not the Sabbath
his wrath upon these new Enemies and Persecutors Besides 2 2. in your own Declaration p. 7. of that 43 you say it is no resisting of Magistracie to side with just principles And is it not just to side with that Interest which the blood of so many thousands of the Saints hath sealed to in the three Nations and so many Declarations Vows and Engagements have been made for viz. for the Lambs and against this your Interest which we have all engaged prayed bled and fought against Now my Lord let the loud Cries of the blood shed against these things you have set up be heard and make restitution of that blood those lives tears bowels faith prayer limbs and skulls of us and our relations left in the fields and laid out against this kinde of Government whether in Civil or Ecclesiastical or else let us have what they were laid out for otherwise we must and will with the Lords help side with those just Principles that have been so sealed to and owned by the Lord. And this will be a most apparent defensive war as ever was in the world to defend what the blood and bones and estates of so many thousands of the Saints of God have bought at so high a rate which they are wronged for they never thought of setting up this And therefore I say my Lord if our God the Lord Jehovah do give his Call I am ready for one amongst the Lords remnant to side with just Principles in the strength of the Anointing whether it be pradicando pracando or praeliando by preaching praying or fighting Sir Gilb. P. Said you not praliando Yea says Mr. R. in the Spirit of the Lord for the Case was never so clear as now it is in the state of the Controversie For the Controversie is not now between man and man The state of the Controversie is between Christ O.P. Christs Government Mans. one Government of the world and another Government of the world or King and People but it is now between Christ and you my Lord Christs Government and yours and which of these two are the higher powers for us to side with and be obedient unto judge ye O.P. Ha! Why who denies the Case to be clearer now But I heard indeed This speech seemed to trouble them all it is some of your principles to be at it you long to be at it you want but an opportunity Ro. The remnant of the womans seed must be at it when they have the Call For I beseech you my Lord consider how neer it is to the End of the Beasts dominion the 42 months and what time of day it is with us now But Mr. Ro. was interrupted O.P. Talk not of that for I must tell you plainly An Ignoramus brought in very honestly they are things I understand not Ro. It seems my Lord so else surely you durst not lay violent hands upon us for the testimony and truth of the day as you do B. D. one of the 12 Why then do you imprison others for the light if you your self be so ignorant But then some of the Court-creatures pull'd him by the cloak and laid violent hands on him and call'd him stinking base fellow saying he knew not whom he spake to nor where he was giving him many uncivil words But afterward one of them said to him Ask for Mr. Ro. out of prison a●k for him and my Lord will let him out But B. D. answered No Sir we came not for that B. P. Great men are not always wise O.P. See! says he looking upon his Army-men Ro. They are not always wise with the wisdom of God though they may have much carnal policie subtilty and reason of State But the seed of the woman shall break the Serpents head Which Mr. Ro. speaking with a high voice and great alacrity it made the Courtiers scoff at him as if he were a Mad-man O.P. Ha! and thus they talk of the Ministery and Commissioners for Approbation and say they are Antichristian * See your Ordinance March 20 1653. the ground is upon Patrons right to present to cure of souls the creator is your L P. Cromwel the matter men of corrupt principles and practices and most of them of the National Church the end is to fill Parish-cures and get Tythes all Antichristian Ro. Yea my Lord we do say so and they are so as to their standing upon a wrong un-Gospel foot of account and I will prove them and your Tryers I speak not as to their persons but as to their standing Antichristian for matter and form and rule by which they sit and end for which they sit O.P. You fix the name of Antichristian upon any thing Ro. Pray my Lord make no Law against that name let it not be treason to use the name Antichristian for that name will up yet higher and higher and many things that you think good and Christian will be found Antichristian ere long O.P. Being angry look'd on his Army-men See! said he and so all is Antichristian and Tythes are so too with you but I will prove they are not Ro. My Lord you were once of another minde and told me you 'd have them pull'd down and put into a Treasury O.P. Did I ever say so Ro. Yea that you did in the Co●k-pit the round place there and said moreover that the Poor should be maintained and put to work with what remained of them that we might have no begger in England O.P. Ha! there be many Gentlemen know that I have been for them and will maintain the justness of them Ro. But my Lord how can that be that the National Ministery is not Antichristian O.P. See now how you run It is not a National Ministery that is now established nor can you make it appear they are Antichristian Ro. Yea my Lord without any difficulty out of your own Law which hath constituted these Tryers and High-Court-Commissioners to establish a worldly Clergie O. P. I tell you you and you that you cannot for they ordain none Ro. No but if the Pope Prelate or Devil should ordain them they must approve of them settle them in their Parishes get them their Tythes and what not if they be but conformable to He is interrupted O.P. I tell you I tell you it is their grace they judge of and not for parts or learning Latine Greek or Hebrew Ro. And who made them judges of grace my Lord At most they can but judge of the fruits of grace and how dare they take upon them to be judges over Grace It is not you but the Lord Jesus that can make them such judges With that he turned away as very angry B. H. My Lord we are very much dissatisfied with what you have done against these prisoners of the Lord Jesus for so they are and we must count them so for you have given us no sat is faction at all in what you pretend them to