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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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of more credit concerning the Antiquity of Infant-baptism then Augustines who as I shew Apology sect 6. and elsewhere did often inconsiderately call that an Apostolical tradition which was commonly observed in his dayes within the compass of his acquaintance Cyprians speech if it be rightly brought by Mr. B. will prove all still-born Infants to be lost being not of the visible Church Catholick That which Mr. B. page 266. saith fully satisfies him part of it is false the rest so frivolous that I can impute his satisfaction to no other cause then his inconsiderateness The very same or like plea will serve for communion of young children in which yet Mr. B. is not satisfied But to me it is very good satisfaction that baptizing of Infants is but an innovation neither agreeing with the institution of Christ nor the Apostles practise nor known till it began to be conceived necessary to give grace and to save from perishing yet then disswaded and not practised but in case of iminent danger of death nor maintained on any other ground till Zuinglius his dayes What the Churches of Anabaptists so called have done in London that Mr. B. should so much lament till I know what it is I take to be a Calumny That Anabaptists have been in danger by the instigations of Preachers and writers it is a marvel to me that Mr. B. should not understand who can hardly be ignorant whence the ordinance against blasphemies and heresies came That any of my Antagonists are turned out of house and home is unknown to me surely not for non-conformity to rebaptizing most certain that if any such thing hath been done it was never by my procurement nor I think any of the Churches of Anabaptists That which Mr. B. page 267. saies that the same men that subscribe the Anabapiists confession have many of them written other kind of doctrine elsewhere I doubt whether it be true I find him onely naming Paul Hobson page 147. and citing some passages of his of which that which is most liable to exception Mr. B. himself gives us this excuse in his Saints evelasting rest part 2. chap. 1. sect 2. page 169. not understanding that they affirm and deny the same thing in several expressions so that however his expressions be dangerous yet it is probable he held not the Socinian opinion which he contradicted in the subscription to the confession but onely discovered his weakness And yet Mr. B. I think is not ignorant that so holy learned a man as M. Pemble near the beginning of his Vindicae gratiae hath a like conceit of Gods never hating the elect but being reconciled from eternity taking reconciliation for an immanent act in God which as I imagine Mr. B. would excuse in Mr. Pemble so might he with a like charity excuse the other in Paul Hobson What he cites out of Cyprian I wish Mr. B. had Englished it and that both Anabaptists and their opposites would learn it Page 268. he saith if my book of scandals were read men may perhaps receive a preservative from my own hand from the danger of my opinion to which I say I wish my book of Scandals were more read nor do I fear that my doctrine will be the lesse embraced for reading it if my interpretation of my own words justified even by Mr. B. be received as I shew before Page 269. he tells us the Levellers were Anabaptists but I cannot yet learn of any of them he names except Den that was so though I deny not but there might be sundry of them such likely of the Free-willers disclaimed by the seven Churches in London and that they were but few in comparrison of the rest by the Newes-books I gather the Levelling businesse was carried on by such as were in no gathered Church but lived above ordinances As for Mr. Bs. dark criminations I can give no answer to them unlesse I could plow with his heifer and find out his riddle But my hope is those great instruments of God to break the enemies of those that are termed Sectaries though Mr. Bs. words seem to forebode and misdeem evil of them will and do prove better then he discribes them though I imagine they be not Anabaptists Nor do I like Mr. Bs. obscure satyrical criminations they having some shew of a malevolent mind Whatever Mr. B. may conceive of the danger of the Anabaptists way in other things I am sure if they would keep themselves onely to this to be baptized upon profession of faith they should be in a safe way even in the way of Christ. SECT XXII The speech that no one Countrey is gathered into Christs visible Church contains no malignancy to Christ but is a manifest truth MOst of that which is in Mr. Bs. answer to the last section of my Antidote hath either been replied to before or in some other part of my writings or will fall into the main of the dispute wherein I doubt not but I shall fully vindicate my argument against the visible Church-membership of Infants from the different cause of the Jewish and Christian Church though the thing be so manifest to wit that the Christian Church was otherwise gathered then the Jewish that I see nothing but meer wrangling in the questions Mr. B. propounds And to his words page 279 280. Sir if you were my Father I would tell you that when you say Christ makes no one City Countrey Tribe his Disciples you speak most malignantly and wickedly against the Kingdome and dignity of my Lord Jesus I answer I meet so often with Mr. Bs. high charges upon palpable mistakes and weak proofs that I fear his misguided zeal or natural distemper hath brought him to an habit of ill-speaking My words were not as Mr. B. sets them down but thus no one Countrey or City or Tribe together were gathered by the Apostles or other Preachers into the Christian visible Church but so many of all as the Lord vouchsafed to call by his word and spirit which hath neither wickedness nor malignancy against the Kingdome and dignity of the Lord Jesus but a manifest truth expressely taught in the Holy Scripture as congruous to the glory of God and the Lord Jesus 1 Cor. 1. 26 27. 28 29. Not many wise men c. Ergo not the whole Nation Revel 5. 9. out of every Nation Ergo not the whole Nation as he did the Jewes in the Wilderness The relations in the Gospel and Acts of the Apostles plainly prove it true that by John Baptist Christ the 12. and 70. Disciples was no entire Nation City Countrey or Tribe gathered into the visible Church-christian but parts of them and those fewer then the adversaries who in every place were so numerous when the Christians are counted at some few thousands as that even at Jerusalem and elsewhere they prevailed to disperse Christians by persecution Nor do Mr. Bs. questions prove that into the Christian visible Church any one whole Countrey City or
PRAECURSOR OR A FORERUNNER To a large Review of the Dispute concerning INFANT-BAPTISM Wherein many things both Doctrinall and personal are cleared about which Mr. RICHARD BAXTER In a Book MOCK-TITLED PLAIN SCRIPTURE-PROOF OF INFANTS CHURCH-MEMBERSHIP AND BAPTISM hath darkned the Truth By JOHN TOMBS B. D. LONDON Printed by H. Hils and are to be sold by H. Crips and Lod. Lloid in Popes-head Ally T. Brewster and G. Moule at the three Bibles at the West end of Pauls 1652. To the right Honourable Bulstrode Whitlock Richard Keble Serjeants at Law John Lisle Esq Lords Commissioners for the Great Seal of England Major General Thomas Harrison Edmund Prideaux Esquire Atturney General for the State of England Denis Bond Esquire THrough the influence of the favour of many of you as instruments of the Lord for my liberty to preach the Gospel and peace at the Temple in London I enjoyed sundry years in the late tempestuous times an unexpected calm until a new storm arising by reason of the violence of men bent to bear down dissenters from the determinations of the Assembly of Divines at Westminster by reason of the publishing my Examen of Mr. Marshals Sermon for Infant-baptism I was necessitated to leave the harbour I had at the Temple and to remove a great distance from London to the place of my nativity in which I hoped for a setlement which I found not For partly by the States selling my lands out of which my maintenance there arose and partly by reason of the alienating of mens spirits from me through the distance between me and the Antagonist I here answer I was in a great measure frustrated of my hopes But it pleased the Lord nevertheless to order things so that by the means of some of you as Patrons and others as helpers I enjoy a comfortable supply for my maintenance together with that which is dearer to me the liberty of holding forth the truth of the Gospel where I laboured many years heretofore In testimony of my thankful acknowledgement of that ample favour which it pleased some of you to vouchsafe me by your appearing for me and bounty to me at the Temple and testimonial of me at my departure thence the readiness of you all either to invest or to setle me in the maintenance I now enjoy that there may be something in your hands to vindicate me from injurious aspersions under which my self with the truth I avouch do suffer much I humbly presume to present this writing to your hands and praying that you may honor God in your places who hath raised you up to do him service I subscribe my self Your Honours humble and real servant JOHN TOMBES Lemster December 26. 1651. To the dearly beloved my Auditors formerly the Inhabitants of Bewdly in Worcestershire THe fame of the dispute between Mr. Baxter and my self at your Chappel Jan. 1. 1649. was at first spread over the land by Mr. Bs abusive passage in his Epistle before his book of The Saints everlasting rest to which I opposed an answer in my Farewell-speech to you and that it might be communicated to the Nation printed it with some additions in my Antidote which I intended in the first place for your use After this Mr. B. printed a large book for Infants-baptism framed in manner of a Sermon as intended and accordingly tendred in an Epistle to you In which how injuriously he hath dealt with me and how weakly he hath opposed the truth I taught you will appear in part by reading this Forerunner to the rest of the answer that is to come after I did presently upon my first reading of Mr. Bs. book in a set speech briefly shew you Mr. Bs. grounds and the reason why they were unsatisfying Yet neither my Antidote nor that speech do I find much regarded by many of you nor perhaps will this writing take much with you However I have conceived it necessary to tender this writing to you that it might thereby appear how vain the excessive boastings of Mr. Bs book have been how justifiable their receiving the truth who have yielded to it is and how inexcusable they are that persist in Mr. Bs. way What ever you think or speak of me yet I do and shall study your good and committing my labours for you and among you to the blessing of the Lord I rest Your loving Countrey-man and servant in Christ JOHN TOMBES Lemster Oct. 1. 1651. The Contents Sect. I. OF the necessity and occasion of this present writing Sect. II. That the Title of Mr. Baxters book is a mock-title Sect. III. Mr. Baxters citations from Fathers advantage him not Sect. IV. Mr. Baxters citations from my writings advantage him not Sect. V. Mr. Baxter unduly suggests many things in his Epistles Sect. VI. The chief points of Mr. Baxters book are very briefly touched Sect. VII Many personal occurrences are cleered by relating of which Mr. Baxter hath in his History sought to create prejudice against me Sect. VIII More personal matters which the History of Mr. Baxter hath made crooked are set straight Sect. IX In my alleging Peter de Bruis and others as Antipaedobaptists 500. years ago is no untrath Sect. X. That Mr. Baxters charge of accusing and of disputing my children out of the Church and Covenant of Christ is vain and some inquiry is made how they are in Covenant Sect. XI About Mr. Baxters 4. Texts urged impertinently to prove Infants visible Church-membership Sect. XII That Mr. Baxter unjustly chargeth me to be a Sect-Master Sect. XIII That it is not a right way to judge of the truth of doctrine by strange accidents though wonderous Sect. XIV That Mr. Baxter doth not rightly expound Christs rule Mat. 7. 15 16. nor is unholiness of men a note to know fals doctrine by Sect. XV. Mr. Baxters insinuations of the wickedness of Anabaptists is Calumniatory and vainly alleged to condemne their doctrine of Antipaedobaptism Anabaptists and with them my self are vindicated from charges of Schism neglect of the Lords day c. Sect. XVI The ground of my opposing Infant-baptism is confirmed by Mr. Baxter himself Sect. XVII The gross absurdities to which Mr. Baxter vaunted I was driven in the dispute Sect. XVIII The gross untruths Mr. Baxter chargeth me with are not such Sect. XIX The 6. imagined errors charged on me by Mr. Baxter are cleered from his censure Sect. XX. Many learned men with the Oxford Convocation of former later times take Infant-baptism only for an unwritten Tradition Sect. XXI Many things are cleared about my Conformity Anabaptists necessity to be baptized the manner of dipping used by them their standing to their confession of faith c. Sect. XXII The speech that no one Countrey is gathered into Christs visible Church containes no malignancy to-Christ but is a manifest truth ERRATA PAge 2. l. 13. debare reade debate p. 4. l. 14. specially r. speciously p. 5. l. 3. after r. afore p. 7. l. 7. contrary r. century p.