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A89229 Gangrænachrestum, or A plaister to alay the tumor, and prevent the spreading of a pernitious vlcer, like to have grown upon, and putrified the good report of Jo. Maddocks, and Henry Pinnell. Made up of a true relation (wherein the faults of the former impression by Master Edwards are revised, corrected, and amended) concerning some passages at Pool. / By the abused parties I.M. and H.P. Maddocks, John.; Pinnell, Henry. 1646 (1646) Wing M246; Thomason E353_12; ESTC R201080 22,021 31

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he hath not spoken to them 4 Argument is drawne from the end of God in giving of gifts 1 Cor. 12.7 The Apostle having asserted in the fourth verse that the Saints gifts of what measure and kind soever of which he nominates divers 8 9 10 11 verses are by the selfe same spirit of God he concludes in the 7 verse but the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withall And in the 5 Mathew 14. Christ to the Disciples speakes of it as the end of God in making them lights that they might shine and as an absurdity to Reason it selfe a thing which no man will doe to put a light candle under a bushell where no man shall have the benefit of it 5 Argument it is no where in Scripture contradicted but often encouraged and commended 11 Numbers 26.7 Eldad and Medad prophecyed in the campe Joshua complaining to Moses of their preaching Envyest thou saith Moses for my sake I would to God all the Lords people were Prophets Obj. Against this was objected by Master S. F. Moses wished that they were all Prophets but not that they should prophecy before they were Prophets Ans 1. None can prophecy before they are gifted and enabled to it 2. It cannot have reference to an outward call but to that which was the objection viz. Eldad and Medad who were not of the Preisthood prophecying by the spirit of God and Moses wish had beene very superfluous if when they were thus prophets they should not prophecy Againe in the 1 Thes 5.19 quench not the spirit despise not prophecying so that where the spirit of God is it ought not to be quenched nor prophecying by it but the spirit of God ●s in many Christians out of office therefore not to be quenched c. and Christ reprooves the Disciples for forbidding the man that cast out Divells in his name and tells them that no man that doth a miracle in his name can lightly speak evill of hime so likewise in the 1 Cor. 12. Chap. 1 3 4 5 v. The Apostle desiring that they might not be ignorant concerning spirituall gifts and speaking of the diversities of operations and administrations from the same Lord and the same Spirit he saith in the third verse that he gives this to be understood by the Saints that no man speaking by the spirit of God can call Iesus accursed the spirit of God cannot possibly dishonour Iesus Christ and no man can say that Iesus is the Lord no man can truly exalt Iesus Christ but by the Holy Ghost so in the 12 of Mathew Christ having by the spirit of God cast out a Divell the Pharises accused him blaspheming the spirit of God of casting out Divells by Beelzebub the Prince of the Divells now observe Christs answer in justification of any thing done by the spirit of God after his conviction of them by their own children and the impossibility of a house standing which is divided against it selfe he saith in the 28 verse if I cast out Divells by the spirit of God then the Kingdome of God is come unto you and in the third verse he that is not with me is against me he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad now gathering must be by exhortation c. and the Scripture restraines not to method or forme in it and farther its added in the next verse as a check or reproofe of those that undervalue and slight the Spirit of God wherefore I say unto you all manner of sinne and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall never be forgiven and whosoever shall speak a word against the sonne of man c. intimating the wilfull quenching despising of the spirit of God to be a sinne of the highest nature or as Marke hath it brings in danger of eternall damnation because they said he hath an uncleane spirit 6. Argument Those that haue not improved their Talents by gathering with Iesus Christ have been sentenced and condemned Mathew 23. he that had but one talent and kept it 〈◊〉 a napkin is accounted an unprofitable servant and bound hand and foot and cast into outer darknesse and in the aforenamed 〈◊〉 of Mathew he that gathereth not scattereth abroad 7. Argument That which is especially authorized a Call in Scripture is a sending and enabling by the Spirit of God to Preach the word of God 10. Rom. 15. compare with the 23 Ieremiah 10. R●●…enes how shall he preach except he be sent it implies that if he be sent he can Preach yet many of those that have been sent with the outward call pleaded for could never Preach the glad tydings of the Gospell of Peace which sent ones are there spoken of with reference to the Peoples beleeving upon the discovery of the Gospells glad tidings by them compare with it the 23 Ier. 21. I have not saith God sent these Prophets yet they ranne which sending is expounded in the latter part of the verse I have not spoken to them yet they Prophecyed So in the 16. verse they speake a vision of their own heart and not out of the mouth of the Lord saying they shall have peace c. Yet these in the 13 and 14 verses were Prophets of Sanaria and Prophets of Ierusalem outwardly called and in the 〈◊〉 verse the Lord saith expresly that if they had stood in his Counsell and caused his people to heare his words a blessing should have attended their Ministry they should have turned them from their evill waies and from the evill of their doings It was there affirmed by Mr S.F. that the Lords complaint here was that they were not sent with an outward call which if they were not then 1. First it must be cleared why they are called Prophets of Samaria and Prophets of Ierusalem 2. Secondly it must necessarily follow that God will blesse the endeavours of men without an outward Call which stand in his Councell and Prench his word and not the visior of their own hearts verse 22. I have now as briefly as I can related the truth not so much if at all for my own vindication as for the Saints and the Gospells sake both which have been so slandered and undermined by pretended Friends FINIS ERRATA In the Title page for Desertè reade Diserti Pag. 4. lin 24. for dealts r. deale p 9. l. 11. for ●ame r. name l. 15. for right right p. 11. l. ● for borther r. brother p. 18 Adde 2 to the beginning of l. 25. p. 19. l. ●2 for never r. ever p. 22. l. 15. for Christians r. Christian There be many mistakes in stops and points which being but Punctil●●●●'s of Grammar and servants to vvaite upon an Emphasis in Oratory I have left by reason of my absence from the Presse to exercise thy judgement and charity
he were better fly into Aegypt then tarry in Judea the Apostles had better entertainement amongst the Gentles then amongst the Jewes Christ had a safer protection under Pharoah then under Herod the children of the Spirit were better expose themselves to meere strangers and Aliens then to those that are borne but after the flesh Gal. 4.29 and safer will it be for the outward man to live amongst Publicans and Sinners then amongst devour Jewes for if the Rulers of the Synagogue the Parson of the Parish c. cannot intangle and quell them Fo. 19.12.15 the Civill Magistrate shall have little rest till a Crowne of Thornes be on their heads What else is the meaning of whetting the secular sword so sharpe with Gangraenous Epistles to the Parliament and higher powers to suppresse some which worship God after that way which others onely call but not prove to be Heresie I will now give over wrestling I was never brought up to these Olympian games nor do I delight in such exercises though some make them their recreation But David may take his sling in hand as well as his sheepe crooke he may fight with a Philistine as well as feede his Fathers Ewes because I am forc'd rather then come upon the stage give me leave to defend my selfe from Rabshekah's pen and Goliah's beame you will not blame the peaceable and quiet traveller for using his weapon and crying Theeves Theeves when he is set upon in the way and like to be over-master'd by men-stealers Q●● semel amissa postea nullus eris who would robb him of his good name without which a man is no man the modestest damsell will lift up her voice when violence is offered to her virginity nor can I with silence let passe these mendacious slanders which impetuously attempt to ravish the purity and simplicity of the Gospell Methinkes these present times correspond much with the former and give a cleare interpretation of many passages in scripture You know when Christ was borne not only Herod but all Jerusalem was troubled at it and when he comes it is to kindle a fire to send a sword to set at variance c. And though the Temple of Jerusalem was built without the noyse of an Axe or Hammer in it 1 Kings 6.7 Yet the walls of that Citye were repaired in troblous tymes Dan. 9.25 when the workemen wrought with one hand Neh. 4.17 and held their weapon in the other He that will worke for God had neede be arm'd against men I will hold thee no longer though I intended once to have examined the libellous letter of S.F. a litle more narrowly before thee yet I shall rest and desire thee to be satisfied for the present with what my borther will say concerneing it in his Narrative I could speake enough of all my defamers upon heare say to make them odious but then I shou'd doe as I have bin done by and not as I would be done by and want proofe it may be as well as they I see there is falshoode in fame I wonder wise men should give heede to such lying vanityes As for that blackemouth'd booke which keeps such a snarling at the Saints I turne my back upon it not for feare to flee from it but in disdaine and scorne of it For Major sum quam cuipossit Gangraena nocere I trust to weare such armour of proofe alwayes upon me that will defend backe and belly from the insolent thrusts of infernall forgeryes Integer vitae scelerisque purus non eget Mauri jaculis and therefore shall cast off all other harnesse and appeare noe more in Roman buffe in this quarrell Sauls armour sits not easye on me my doctrine and conversation shall be the sheild and buckler of my reputation I had been silent still but Codrus his bawling will break the string of Aegles his tongue too much foule play will make a dumbe man speake nothinge but that provok'd the pen of him who was unwillinge to write but is ready to serve thee in the Gospel of Christ August 18 1646. Henry Pinnell The Narrative of Iohn Maddockes IN August last I came to Poole in my way to Weymouth and other Westerne places where staying a little time I had one day some discourse with Master Bromhill riding from Winborne to Poole wherein we did concurre without any difference at all Master Bromhill desiring and engaging me to farther acquaintance after which upon a Saterday I visiting him at his quarters we fell into a discourse wherein I lovingly and freely gave a full accompt of my judgement he assenting to every thing that I said excepting some little difference concerning the exercise of a mans gifts without an externall call wherein he said he was not fully satisfied in every particular in his owne judgement yet objecting otherwise no errour in my judgement he invited Ensigne Taylor who was going away to stay and heare what discourse we had and what he said to me which was expresly to this purpose both in matter and expression if not verbatim and as orderly placed here as spoken by him Sir I finde you a man Orthodox and right in your judgement and I would to God you could stay in this Towne it might be a great means to prevent errours amongst this people and so long as it is you with them in Gods name meet as often as you will and I would to God all the Lords people were Prophets and though I am not in my own judgement wholly satisfied concerning preaching without a call yet finding you such a man as you are if you are satisfied in it your selfe doe as you will and I shall begrutch the opportunities that I am not with you whereupon I desired him to be with us the next day and to assist us in our communion together he said his time would not then permit but desired that we might another time have a meeting together of the Christians in the Towne wherein each might freely declare himselfe in love to other for the uniting themselves faster together in the bond of love At one meeting I was present wherein there was abundance of love professed and nothing more long'd for by us then the performance of the promises then made afterwards in my absence they had it seemes another meeting or two where Master S. F. saith they did all at least in appearance punctually agree by which parenthesis compared with consequences is suspected that some were present who were something in appearance towards the Christians in the Towne that they were not in heart After my returne from Weymouth we had a meeting on the fifth of September 1645. wherein Master S. F. with the consent of his brethren propounded a Question which was it seemes the maine thing stickled at and propounded by them the first meeting but deferred till then upon some considerations The Question was viz. Quest Whether a man out of office or without an outward call having