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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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off_o of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o flesh_n coloss._n 2.11_o it_o seal_v the_o righteousnese_n of_o faith_n which_o they_o have_v rom._n 4.11_o and_o the_o circumcise_n of_o the_o fo●-skinne_n of_o the_o heart_n deut._n 10_o 16_o to_o love_v the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n deut._n 30.6_o now_o if_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o infant_n have_v the_o l●ue_n of_o god_n in_o their_o heart_n the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n the_o put_n of_o of_o the_o body_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n they_o may_v not_o be_v circumcise_v and_o the●r_a circumcision_n be_v nothing_o if_o this_o be_v not_o a_o good_a argument_n to_o keep_v child_n from_o circumcision_n the_o other_o be_v no_o better_a to_o keep_v th●m_n from_o baptism_n second_o christian_a infant_n have_v the_o grace_n they_o speak_v of_o repentance_n faith_n regeneration_n &c_n &c_n though_o not_o actual_o or_o by_o way_n of_o declaration_n to_o other_o yet_o they_o have_v through_o the_o work_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o seed_n and_o beginning_n of_o faith_n virtual_o and_o by_o way_n of_o inclination_n so_o that_o they_o be_v not_o whole_o destitute_a of_o faith_n regeneration_n etc._n etc._n though_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n hide_v and_o unknown_a unto_o we_o after_o what_o manner_n the_o lord_n work_v these_o in_o they_o eccles._n 11_o 5._o which_o i_o further_o prove_v thus_o if_o infant_n natural_o be_v some_o way_n capable_a of_o adam_n sin_n and_o so_o of_o unbelief_n disobedience_n transgression_n etc._n etc._n then_o christian_a infant_n supernatural_o and_o by_o grace_n be_v some_o way_n capable_a of_o christ_n righteousness_n and_o so_o of_o faith_n obedience_n sanctification_n etc._n etc._n but_o infant_n be_v capable_a of_o the_o former_a evil_n by_o adam_n therefore_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o latter_a good_a thing_n by_o christ._n that_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o former_a be_v before_o prove_v where_o we_o treat_v of_o original_a sin_n by_o rome_n 5_o psal._n 5_o 1_o joh._n 3_o and_o many_o scripture_n the_o consequence_n that_o therefore_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o latter_a also_o ●o_o wit_n of_o christian_a grace_n be_v thus_o manifest_v 1_o because_o the_o first_o adam_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o second_o adam_n christ_n so_o that_o as_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o first_o adam_n his_o fault_n disobedience_n and_o death_n for_o it_o come_v on_o all_o his_o child_n both_o by_o imputation_n and_o infection_n or_o corruption_n of_o nature_n so_o the_o righteousness_n and_o obedience_n of_o christ_n come_v on_o all_o his_o child_n both_o by_o imputation_n and_o renew_n of_o nature_n unto_o life_n and_o salvation_n as_o the_o apostle_n compare_v they_o rom._n 5.12.15.16.17.18.19.21_o 2_o because_o infant_n be_v by_o adam_n sinner_n child_n of_o
wrath_n etc._n etc._n must_v be_v bear_v again_o of_o the_o spirit_n or_o else_o they_o can_v see_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n joh._n 3_o 3.5.6_o but_o the_o christian_a infant_n die_v in_o infancy_n shall_v see_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o not_o be_v damn_v as_o the_o adversary_n grant_v therefore_o by_o christ_n doctrine_n they_o be_v bear_v again_o of_o the_o spirit_n and_o so_o must_v needs_o in_o some_o measure_n have_v repentance_n faith_n holiness_n without_o which_o there_o be_v no_o regeneration_n again_o that_o infant_n have_v the_o faith_n and_o love_n of_o god_n in_o they_o and_o regeneration_n in_o their_o measure_n be_v thus_o prove_v they_o to_o who_o god_n give_v the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o righteousness_n by_o faith_n and_o of_o regeneration_n they_o have_v faith_n and_o regeneration_n for_o god_n give_v no_o lie_a sign_n he_o seal_v no_o vain_a or_o false_a covenant_n but_o god_n give_v to_o infant_n circumcision_n which_o be_v the_o sign_n an●●ale_v of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n and_o regeneration_n gen_n 17.12_o rom._n 4.11_o &_o 2.28.29_o coloss._n 2.11_o therefore_o infant_n have_v &_o consequent_o now_o have_v faith_n &_o regeneration_n though_o not_o in_o the_o crop_n or_o harvest_n by_o declaration_n yet_o in_o the_o bud_n and_o beginning_n of_o all_o christian_a grace_n they_o that_o deny_v this_o reason_n must_v either_o make_v god_n th●_n author_n of_o a_o lie_a sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o abraham_n and_o ●is_fw-la infant_n or_o they_o must_v hold_v that_o infant_n have_v those_o grace_n then_o b●t_v not_o now_o both_o which_o be_v wicked_a and_o absurd_a to_o affirm_v or_o t●ey_n must_v say_v that_o circumcision_n be_v not_o the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n and_o then_o they_o open_o contradict_v the_o scripture_n rom._n 4.11_o moreover_o as_o the_o apostle_n in_o rom._n 5_o compare_v our_o natural_a estate_n in_o adam_n and_o our_o spiritual_a estate_n in_o christ_n so_o may_v we_o in_o this_o case_n if_o we_o can_v just_o object_v against_o god_n work_n in_o nature_n but_o do_v believe_v that_o our_o infant_n be_v reasonable_a creature_n and_o be_v bear_v not_o bruit_n beast_n but_o man_n though_o actual_o they_o can_v manifest_v no_o reason_n or_o understanding_n more_o than_o beast_n yea_o a_o young_a lamb_n know_v and_o discern_v h●s_n damn_v soon_o than_o a_o infant_n know_v his_o mother_n then_o nei●her_o can_v we_o just_o object_v against_o god_n work_n in_o grace_n but_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o our_o infant_n be_v sanctify_v creature_n and_o be_v bear_v believer_n not_o infidel_n though_o outward_o they_o can_v manifest_v no_o faith_n or_o sanctification_n unto_o we_o and_o why_o shall_v it_o be_v think_v incredible_a that_o god_n shall_v work_v faith_n in_o infant_n if_o because_o we_o know_v not_o or_o perceive_v not_o how_o it_o can_v be_v let_v we_o consider_v that_o we_o know_v not_o the_o way_n of_o our_o natural_a birth_n and_o other_o earthly_a thing_n eccles._n 11_o 5._o joh._n 3_o 8_o how_o then_o can_v we_o know_v heavenly_a thing_n if_o we_o make_v question_n of_o the_o power_n of_o god_n nothing_o be_v unpossible_a with_o h●m_n he_o make_v all_o thing_n of_o nothing_o he_o can_v make_v the_o dumb_a beast_n speak_v with_o man_n voice_n numb_a 22_o he_o can_v make_v the_o babe_n in_o the_o mothers_n womb_n to_o be_v affect_v and_o leap_v for_o joy_n at_o the_o voice_n of_o word_n speak_v to_o the_o mother_n luk._n 1.44_o and_o can_v he_o not_o also_o work_v grace_n faith_n holiness_n in_o infant_n have_v satan_n power_n by_o sin_n to_o infect_v and_o corrupt_a infant_n as_o be_v before_o prove_v and_o shall_v nor_o god_n have_v power_n to_o cleanse_v from_o corruption_n and_o make_v they_o holy_a if_o we_o make_v doubt_n of_o the_o will_n of_o god_n herein_o behold_v we_o have_v his_o promise_n to_o restore_v our_o loss_n in_o adam_n by_o his_o grace_n in_o christ_n as_o he_o show_v in_o rome_n 5_o that_o he_o will_v circumcise_v our_o heart_n and_o the_o heart_n of_o our_o seed_n to_o love_v he_o deu._n 30_o 6_o we_o have_v the_o seal_n of_o his_o promise_n in_o give_v circumcision_n to_o infant_n to_o signify_v and_o seal_v the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n rom._n 4.11_o gen._n 17._o and_o we_o have_v assurance_n of_o all_o his_o promise_n and_o of_o that_o to_o abraham_n &_o his_o seed_n in_o particular_a to_o be_v confirm_v unto_o we_o not_o abrogate_a or_o lessen_v by_o christ_n 2_o cor._n 1.20_o luk._n 1.72.73_o etc._n etc._n gal._n 3.14_o etc._n etc._n wherefore_o they_o be_v but_o a_o faithless_a and_o crooked_a generation_n that_o notwithstanding_o all_o that_o god_n h●th_v speak_v and_o do_v in_o this_o kind_n do_v deny_v this_o grace_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o infant_n of_o his_o people_n and_o the_o seal_n or_o confirmation_n of_o this_o grace_n by_o baptism_n now_o as_o it_o be_v by_o circumcision_n of_o old_a but_o they_o proceed_v to_o plead_v against_o the_o truth_n thus_o 13●_n regeneration_n be_v a_o turn_n from_o sin_n to_o god_n rev._n 6.11_o 1_o thes._n 1.9_o tit_n 4.5_o repentance_n be_v a_o sight_n and_o know_v of_o sin_n by_o the_o law_n a_o confess_v and_o sorrow_n for_o sin_n etc._n etc._n faith_n be_v th●_n ground_n of_o thing_n hope_v for_o etc._n etc._n heb._n 11.1_o and_o be_v accompa-with_a obedience_n jam._n 2._o let_v they_o either_o now_o prove_v that_o infant_n be_v turn_v from_o sin_n see_v know_v confess_v and_o sorrow_n for_o it_o believe_v the_o promise_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n or_o they_o say_v nothing_o answ._n they_o reason_v ignorant_o and_o perverse_o not_o only_o against_o the_o light_n of_o god_n word_n but_o of_o nature_n as_o if_o some_o brutish_a person_n shall_v plead_v thus_o a_o man_n be_v a_o live_a creature_n that_o have_v a_o reasonable_a soul_n and_o the_o proper_a affection_n of_o a_o man_n as_o he_o be_v a_o man_n be_v the_o faculty_n of_o understanding_n of_o think_v capableness_n of_o learning_n of_o remember_v faculty_n of_o reason_v of_o judge_v and_o discern_v true_a and_o false_a good_a and_o evil_a of_o approve_v and_o improve_n of_o willing_a &_o nill_v of_o speak_v of_o number_v etc._n etc._n now_o let_v they_o which_o affirm_v that_o infant_n be_v bear_v man_n as_o christ_n do_v in_o joh._n 16.21_o prove_v that_o infant_n do_v understand_v do_v think_v remember_v judge_n discern_v good_a and_o evil_a approve_v will_n speak_v etc._n etc._n or_o else_o they_o say_v nothing_o be_v not_o such_o a_o disputer_n worthy_a to_o be_v laugh_v and_o hiss_v at_o who_o require_v the_o actual_a use_n and_o manifestation_n of_o humane_a affection_n and_o faculty_n in_o infant_n which_o be_v in_o they_o but_o potential_o &_o in_o the_o seed_n and_o beginning_n and_o because_o th●y_n can_v declare_v these_o thing_n by_o their_o work_n therefore_o he_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o generation_n of_o mankind_n or_o bear_v man_n into_o the_o world_n or_o that_o they_o have_v the_o faculty_n of_o man_n at_o all_o in_o they_o any_o manner_n of_o way_n even_o such_o be_v the_o argumentation_n of_o these_o erroneous_a spirit_n against_o the_o truth_n of_o religion_n for_o as_o before_o they_o reason_v against_o the_o sin_n transgression_n and_o condemnation_n of_o infant_n contrary_a to_o paul_n doctrine_n in_o rom._n 5_o because_o infant_n actual_o understand_v not_o the_o law_n nor_o transgress_v against_o it_o and_o will_v not_o consider_v how_o they_o be_v sinner_n original_o in_o adam_n so_o now_o also_o they_o reason_n against_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n in_o infant_n and_o his_o work_n of_o regeneration_n in_o they_o because_o they_o can_v outward_o manifest_v the_o effect_n of_o regeneration_n or_o fruit_n of_o faith_n such_o as_o the_o scripture_n that_o they_o allege_v do_v require_v in_o old_a person_n &_o will_v not_o understand_v that_o these_o grace_n be_v in_o they_o through_o christ_n and_o his_o spirit_n but_o in_o the_o beginning_n only_a as_o i_o have_v former_o prove_v and_o be_v not_o in_o they_o as_o in_o those_o of_o full_a age_n who_o by_o reason_n of_o use_n have_v their_o sense_n exercise_v to_o discern_v both_o good_a and_o evil_a and_o here_o i_o desire_v to_o know_v of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o their_o next_o write_n about_o these_o matter_n first_o when_o they_o think_v that_o child_n who_o in_o their_o opinion_n be_v bear_v without_o a●y_a sin_n begin_v to_o be_v sinner_n whether_o at_o 2.3.5.7_o or_o other_o year_n and_o when_o they_o can_v just_o reprove_v a_o child_n for_o sin_n if_o it_o show_v in_o word_n deed_n or_o gesture_n any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n as_o if_o it_o swear_v curse_n lie_v disobey_v parent_n take_v another_o good_n be_v froward_a angry_a or_o the_o like_a yea_o let_v any_o of_o