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A dialogue between Lod. Muggleton and the Quakers: Shewing forth the damnable blasphemies of that impudent impostor, collected out of their own printed letters. To undeceive the people. ...
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Muggleton, Lodowick, 1609-1698.
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1677
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Juries nor accusers nor witnesses What Jury had Elisha when he called for fire from Heaven to fall upon two Captains and their fiftys What Jury had Peter when he smote Ananias with his sword But to give the Reader better satisfaction I shall shew how I condemn men and women at a distance 1. There must be some of my faith who hath heard them speak wicked speeches against me and my Commission and so thereupon I have sent the sentence unto them 2. I do never pass sentence upon them unless I have some writings under their own hands as I have from you Quakers Thus Reader I have entertained thee awhile with the Errors Blasphemies and Irregularities of Lodowick Muggleton on which fearing thou shouldst be by this time cloyd I shall divert thy melancholy and please thy curiosity with some of those strange Heresies and ungrounded principles which Muggleton not without some reason in many places lays to the Quakers charge so that when they are both deliberately considered in thy serious judgement thou mayst strike thy hand on thy breast and wonder how many silly soulâ could ever be deluded by such Idle Blasphemous and Irrational Impostors Muggleton before he lets fall his showre of ponderous Arguments on the Quakers salutes them with this Prologue to give them time to set themselves in a defensive posture against the intended rage You are much mistaken if you think to deal with ãâã Prophet who hath a Commission from God as you deal with thââ Priests of the Nation because you are faln to a more precise kinâ of life then they and have amazed them with your feinged Lighâ within you must not think to do so by a commissioned Prophet Quaker pag. 21. Thou sayst that we deny both the Father and the Son and that we dâny the same flesh and bones which Jesus suffered death withall upon tââ Cross Ibid. 2. You say that we deny he was laid in the grave rose agaiââ and was seen by the Apostles I challenge thee to tell me where and ãâã whom these things were denyed by any of us or else be thy mouââ stopt for ever after Muggleton pag. 21. According to your charge I shall acquaint you with both the plaâââ and persons The place East Cheap at a Butchers house and ãâã persons which deny'd them were first the Butcher himself I think his name was Whitpan another of them was Fox the younger who is now both dead and damned to eternity another of them was J. Harwood as for the other two I have forgot them but one of them was a great Lubbardly Fellow perhaps you may know him better then I. Pag. 22. Secondly as for my Cursing If it were a sin in me it must certainly be a greater in you who have nothing but that fictitious light within you to warrant you from that just imputation which may be justly thrown on your most damnable Doctrine and that light within which you so much brag of is nothing but the Whimsies and Chymera's of your frantick brains insomuch that it differs in you every one sharing more or less according to their natural bilities 3. This light within you is nothing but the Capricio's and Levalto's of your mad brains in as much as it leads you to actions of Sorcery and Witchcraft before you begin that pretended devotion so that you often sit as if you were suddenly struck dumb or bewitcht for two hours space before you utter one word again pag. 7. Do you blind Quakers think that the repeating of Scripture texts doth prove my Commission a pretended thing Then I say those Jews which were under the Law of Moses might as well have said that the Apostles commission was but a feigned thing and so they did therefore they persecuted them for it as you would me if it lay in your power as it did in theirs I shall therefore speak a few words to you Sam. Hooton and Will. Shepherd because you two have committed that unpardonable sin which will never be forgiven either in this world or in that to come in speaking evil of the Doctrine and Declaration of the Spirit and Commission we received from the True Personal God without us even the man Christ Jesus in Glory His form of Cursing Therefore in Obedience to my Commission I do pronounce Sam. Hooton and W.S. for their Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that sent me Cursed and Damned Souls and Bodies from the presence of God Elect Men and Angels to Eternity FINIS
A DIALOGUE BETWEEN LOD. MUGGLETON AND THE QVAKERS Shewing forth the Damnable Blasphemies of that Impudent Impostor collected out of their own Printed Letters To Vndeceive the People Licensed according to Order London Printed for J. C. 1677. A Dialogue c. IT is very observable that when Men have once shaken hands with the Ancient Orthodox and undoubted Principles of the Church of England they soon after bid Adieu to Morality Manners and Discretion and suffering themselves to be hurried on by the impetuous Blasts of giddy headed Frenzy stop not till they are plunged in those ominous Quagmires of Atheism Irreligion or Heresie whose fatal Effects the yet yawning Wounds of many hundreds of Families in this Nation do but too recently declare It is no small Grief to the Conscientious and Learned to see the Profane and Ignorant make a Trade of their Professed Christianity and reckon to themselves some Hundreds per annum upon the Invention of some innovated or unheard of Doctrine But above all whoever attempted any thing in this kind I think this Muggleton to be most notorious However these Seducing Impostors like Jealous Harlots are by reason of their Secular Interests rendred uncapable of living near one another without Railing insomuch that if the Devil were of so morose a Constitution as that Philosopher who never laugh'd but when he saw a Mare mumbling of Thistles he would surely have stretched his Spleen in deriding at those Illiterate Disputations have passed between Muggleton and the Quakers Which because I have here undertaken to summe up and to shew the unacquainted Reader the Ridiculousness of the one as well as the Prophaneness of the other I think fit to let him understand that the Quakers having been several times baffled out of their principal Tenets were at length no longer able to maintain their invented Fopperies but by running to Enthusiastick Sanctuaries amusing their most Rational Opponents with an Harangue of those extraordinary Gifts of the Spirit and that unusual Light within which they pretended was committed to their charge Now this Lodowick Muggleton being destitute of many of those natural Endowments as well as artificial Acquirements which have given some colour to the Errors of more Learned Men builds upon the Quakers Foundation and talks as far beyond them of Visions Revelations Commissions and Enthusiasms c. as they did to others before in the same kind as you shall hear by this ensuing Dialogue collected out of both their Letters sent to each other and now printed and bound up together in a Book of Muggletons called The Interpretation ãâã âhe Eleventh Chapter of the Revelations Rich. Farnsworth Quaker pag. 4. Lodowick Muggleton thou pretendest to have received a Commission by a Voice from God whereby thou becomest Judge Accuser and Witness to curse and bless according as thou pleasest and whosoever thou dost bless or curse it is not in the power of Men nor Angels no nor in the Almighty himself to revoke from Eternal Damnation Muggleton pag. 40. My Commission of the Spirit is as true as ever Moses or the Prophets were and of as great nay greater Authority then theirs and given by the same Spirit Quaker pag. 41. But thou art singular in thy Doctrine Knowledge Judgment c. and under pretence of a Commission from God hast presumed to exalt thy self above God and Christ in affirming thy Sentence if once past unrevokable even by the Almighty himself Muggleton pag. 43. You would have said as much of Peter if you had lived in those days and yet you see God gave that power to Man to keep tbe Keys of Heaven and Hell pag. 44. and as he had power to bind and loose to remit or retain so likewise hath the same God given me to bless and curse Men and Women to eternity pag. 45. I do neither bless any out of Affections neither do I curse any through Envy or Malice but it is either because they have sinned against the Holy Ghost or else I do know them to be of the Reprobate Seed Quaker How dare you exclude all other Ministers and Messengers by this pretended Power and onely assume that Commission to your self Muggleton pag. 46. As true as God is Truth there is no true Messenger Minister or Embassador of God in the World but my self neither shall there be any sent of God after me to the Worlds end pag. 47. For it is Gods practice to give Authority to Men that are mortal to condemn according to the tenor of their Commission whether it be for a Temporal or a Spiritual Death and that you and such as you shall find to your eternal sorrow make as light of it as you will Quaker If thou art so great a Prophet as thou pretendest to be why is not thy Name inserted in the Holy Scriptures as other Prophets were Muggleton pag. 149. If you had lived in Christs days when he was upon Earth you âould hardly have found his Name recorded in the Law and the ârophets nay it is more probable that I am ordained the Chief âudge because my Name is not recorded in Scripture If there had been such a Name written in Scriptures that he should be the ââst Prophet in the World many would have named their Sons Lodoâick Muggleton and that is the cause there is so many Johns Thoâasses and Jeremiahs c. Furthermore in Sam. Hooton's and W. Shepherd's Letter to Mugâeton pag. 7. wherein they begin thus Friend for so we can call thee as Christ did Judas here is some Queries for thee to answer in writing or else for ever stop thy mouth âr what reason did Christ come into the world Muggleton's Answer Christ came into the world to destroy the Devil which is the Spiââ of Reason of which Spirit most of the Quakers are of Quakers Is the Spirit of man mortal or not Muggleton It is Mortal and doth and shall dye with the body Quakers How camest thou by this pretended Commission or how canst thou give ãâã any reason to beleive it Muggleton pag. 67. That I have this Commission I prove thus Because I do know by ãâã revelation of Faith that God did speak to John Reeve three mornâââs together distinct words and sentences to the hearing of the ear ãâã 51. Feb. 3 4 5. and gave him a Commission as he did Moses And as ââron was given to be Moses's mouth so was Lodowick Muggleton âââen to be John Reeve's mouth so that John Reeve being the chief âââilst he was living but since the Burden or Commission of the Lord âââh been laid upon me as Elisha had a double portion of Elijah's âârit so have I had a double portion of Revelation of the spirit since ââân Reeve departed this life Quakers By what rule or method dost thou judge and pass condemnation on thy âââw creatures Muggleton pag. 70. ãâã go by as certain a rule as the Judges of the Lord do when they give judgement according to the Law only I have no