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ordinariè_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la preces_fw-la etc._n etc._n 20_o sect_n sed_fw-la dices_fw-la for_o he_o will_v confine_v it_o to_o the_o old_a testament_n acknowledge_v it_o be_v not_o the_o custom_n then_o to_o say_v holy_a abraham_n pray_v for_o we_o and_o his_o reason_n be_v because_o they_o do_v not_o see_v god_n and_o can_v not_o ordinary_o i._n e._n without_o special_a revelation_n know_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n neither_o be_v the_o cardinal_n so_o ingenuous_a with_o we_o as_o be_v his_o fellow_n salmeron_n for_o albeit_o he_o give_v reason_n why_o prayer_n be_v not_o make_v to_o they_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o reason_n be_v good_a against_o their_o invocation_n till_o our_o saviour_n ascension_n yet_o he_o bring_v place_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n for_o a_o seem_a proof_n of_o it_o some_o of_o they_o indeed_o concern_v invocation_n of_o angel_n as_o that_o gen._n 48.16_o &_o job_n 5.1_o to_o which_o we_o brief_o answer_v 9_o answer_v chap._n ii_o 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when_o it_o be_v make_v to_o saint_n and_o that_o by_o way_n of_o religious_a address_n as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n practise_v it_o in_o her_o office_n which_o practise_v none_o of_o the_o ancient_n know_v sect_n iii_o of_o image-worship_n how_o the_o romanist_n labour_n in_o this_o point_n to_o stand_v against_o scripture_n which_o so_o forcible_o encounter_v they_o antiquity_n romanist_n altogether_o forsake_v here_o of_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n we_o see_v above_o chap._n iii_o and_o there_o be_v answer_v what_o they_o bring_v from_o ps_n 99.5_o to_o worship_v his_o footstool_n and_o the_o image_n of_o the_o cherubin_n upon_o the_o ark_n this_o be_v the_o best_a and_o only_o plea_n they_o can_v make_v from_o scripture_n yet_o so_o weak_a and_o ungrounded_a that_o their_o own_o author_n give_v it_o over_o as_o impertinent_a and_o raise_v upon_o a_o false_a supposal_n that_o the_o jewish_a church_n have_v any_o image_n for_o worship_n as_o abovesaid_a ch._n 3._o nu_fw-la 10._o now_o let_v we_o see_v how_o they_o strive_v to_o bear_v up_o against_o the_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n which_o with_o a_o strong_a current_n for_o 700_o year_n run_v contrary_a unto_o they_o our_o first_o evidence_n against_o this_o image-worship_n evidence_n the_o first_o evidence_n have_v there_o be_v any_o such_o thing_n among_o christian_n those_o ancient_a apologist_n and_o defender_n of_o christian_a religion_n against_o heathen_n justin_n clemens_n tertullian_n minutius_n lactantius_n arnobius_n eusebius_n will_v have_v mention_v it_o when_o they_o give_v account_n of_o the_o worship_n use_v in_o their_o assembly_n nay_o they_o can_v not_o have_v decline_v it_o when_o they_o set_v themselves_o to_o refute_v the_o heathen_a image-worship_n and_o therefore_o tertul._n laudem_fw-la tert._n apol._n c._n 12._o igitur_fw-la si_fw-la statuas_fw-la &_o imagine_v frigidas_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la suorum_fw-la simillimas_fw-la non_fw-la adoramus_fw-la quas_fw-la milvi_fw-la &_o araneae_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la nun_n laudem_fw-la in_o his_o apologetic_n profess_v and_o defend_v their_o not_o worship_v of_o image_n if_o therefore_o say_v he_o we_o do_v not_o worship_v statue_n and_o cold_a image_n like_v indeed_o to_o the_o dead_a who_o they_o represent_v and_o which_o bird_n and_o spider_n understand_v well_o enough_o it_o deserve_v praise_n rather_o than_o punishment_n see_v how_o he_o not_o only_o deny_v the_o worship_n but_o vilify_v they_o as_o unfit_a for_o worship_n cold_a and_o like_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o the_o bird_n understand_v they_o and_o therefore_o fear_v not_o to_o dung_n upon_o they_o minutius_n faelix_fw-la answer_v cecilius_n a_o heathen_a that_o object_v against_o the_o christian_n their_o have_a no_o temple_n no_o image_n give_v reason_n wherefore_o they_o have_v not_o or_o not_o use_v they_o in_o worship_n clemens_n alexandr_n as_o he_o deny_v the_o jewish_a church_n have_v any_o image_n to_o worship_n say_v 〈◊〉_d say_v clem._n storm_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d moses_n set_v no_o statue_n or_o figure_n in_o the_o temple_n to_o be_v worship_v so_o be_v he_o very_o severe_a against_o image_n among_o christian_n insomuch_o that_o he_o scarce_o allow_v the_o art_n of_o paint_v or_o of_o make_v image_n as_o we_o may_v see_v in_o his_o protreptic_a origen_n have_v to_o do_v with_o celsus_n about_o worship_n and_o invocation_n and_o to_o answer_v why_o the_o christian_n give_v it_o not_o to_o angel_n who_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v minister_a spirit_n send_v of_o god_n as_o they_o the_o heathen_a give_v it_o to_o their_o daemon_n of_o which_o in_o the_o two_o former_a section_n but_o he_o be_v also_o put_v to_o satisfy_v celsus_n why_o the_o christian_n do_v not_o use_v image_n and_o for_o which_o he_o compare_v they_o to_o scythian_n &_o barbarian_n that_o have_v no_o temple_n and_o image_n because_o they_o know_v not_o what_o the_o god_n or_o hero_n be_v how_o do_v origen_n answer_v by_o say_n as_o a_o romanist_n
wish_n intercession_n thus_o they_o pray_v at_o the_o burial_n or_o carry_v out_o of_o the_o dead_a and_o do_v it_o as_o we_o see_v above_o for_o the_o reason_n there_o mention_v viz._n the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n and_o confirm_v of_o their_o hope_n and_o demonstration_n of_o their_o affection_n and_o the_o like_a and_o upon_o the_o like_a respect_n they_o yearly_o repeat_v the_o like_a prayer_n as_o we_o hint_v above_o out_o of_o the_o cardinal_n acknowledge_v as_o much_o last_o it_o be_v a_o private_a opinion_n but_o notorious_a and_o hold_v by_o many_o misapplication_n that_o the_o damn_a have_v benefit_n or_o ease_v by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n a_o private_a opinion_n or_o misapplication_n that_o they_o which_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n without_o true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n may_v at_o length_n be_v recover_v out_o of_o their_o pain_n or_o at_o least_o have_v they_o mitigate_v and_o to_o these_o the_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o beg_v forgiveness_n ease_n or_o release_n be_v i_o do_v not_o say_v refer_v by_o the_o church_n but_o apply_v or_o rather_o misapply_v by_o many_o origen_n give_v occasion_n first_o to_o this_o error_n for_o he_o hold_v that_o all_o shall_v at_o length_n come_v out_o of_o their_o torment_n and_o his_o error_n be_v as_o vincentius_n note_n a_o great_a temptation_n to_o the_o church_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o wit_n and_o part_n of_o the_o author_n affectu_fw-la aug._n enchirid_a cap._n iii_o frustra_fw-la quamplurimi_fw-la aeternam_fw-la damnatorum_fw-la poenam_fw-la miserantur_fw-la affectu_fw-la and_o st._n aug._n tell_v we_o in_o several_a place_n that_o many_o be_v of_o this_o merciful_a opinion_n very_o many_o say_v he_o do_v commiserate_v through_o humane_a affection_n the_o eternal_a suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a and_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o will_v be_v so_o etc._n etc._n of_o these_o also_o in_o other_o place_n especial_o in_o his_o work_n of_o the_o city_n of_o god_n l._n 21._o c._n 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o where_o he_o reckon_v five_o latitude_n in_o the_o extent_n of_o that_o opinion_n refute_v they_o all_o greg._n nyssen_n seem_v to_o be_v deep_o taint_v with_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o be_v note_v for_o it_o by_o the_o greek_n in_o their_o apology_n against_o the_o romish_a purgatory_n make_v and_o give_v out_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n for_o that_o sententiam_fw-la that_o nyssen_n in_o orat_fw-la deus_fw-la omne_fw-la in_o ommbus_fw-la idem_fw-la in_o orat_fw-la le_fw-fr moritur_fw-la tuâ—s_fw-la pag_n 1067._o mixtam_fw-la clementi_fw-la sententiam_fw-la father_n seem_v plain_o to_o assert_v the_o restore_n of_o all_o man_n to_o salvation_n and_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v of_o the_o purge_n of_o some_o and_o their_o turn_n to_o god_n after_o death_n who_o be_v impure_a in_o their_o life_n and_o that_o place_n of_o st._n hierom_n upon_o isa_n 66._o ult_n which_o the_o cardinal_n misapply_v to_o purgatory_n for_o it_o plain_o speak_v of_o wicked_a christian_n do_v show_v some_o tincture_n of_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n now_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o chrysostoâ—e_n apply_v the_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n make_v for_o the_o dead_a to_o such_o sinner_n and_o i_o shall_v choose_v rather_o to_o silence_v those_o error_n and_o mistake_n of_o some_o ancient_a father_n do_v not_o the_o importunity_n of_o the_o romanist_n force_v we_o to_o show_v the_o misapplication_n of_o they_o to_o purgatory_n i_o shall_v insist_v therefore_o in_o some_o passage_n of_o st._n chrysostome_n philip._n hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n hom._n 21._o in_o act._n serm._n 3._o in_o philip._n the_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o to_o be_v pray_v for_o be_v in_o several_a homily_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o they_o thus_o set_v forth_o by_o he_o one_o say_v he_o that_o daily_o offend_v god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o that_o live_v every_o day_n to_o his_o own_o pleasure_n one_o that_o die_v in_o his_o riches_n and_o never_o use_v they_o to_o the_o benesit_fw-la of_o his_o soul_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d corrupt_a and_o lose_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o of_o who_o he_o say_v hom._n 32._o in_o mat._n if_o god_n have_v see_v he_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v he_o off_o before_o his_o repentance_n such_o as_o these_o the_o romanist_n will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o go_v to_o purgatory_n but_o to_o hell_n yet_o of_o these_o he_o say_v let_v we_o mourn_v for_o such_o a_o one_o but_o that_o avail_v not_o let_v we_o help_v he_o as_o we_o can_v how_o be_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o prayer_n and_o alm_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d those_o thing_n must_v be_v do_v which_o may_v bring_v some_o comfort_n and_o ease_v to_o he_o to_o this_o tenor_n he_o speak_v in_o all_o the_o place_n above_o cite_v but_o especial_o in_o hom._n 21._o upon_o the_o act_n shall_v we_o not_o try_v say_v he_o of_o one_o that_o 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ordain_v willing_a or_o command_v that_o we_o shall_v help_v one_o another_o then_o he_o mention_n the_o offer_v of_o the_o eucharist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o say_v it_o be_v not_o the_o minister_n simple_o or_o only_o that_o pray_v so_o for_o those_o that_o be_v fall_v asleep_a in_o christ_n it_o be_v not_o he_o only_o that_o send_v forth_o that_o voice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o the_o spirit_n he_o indeed_o hold_v the_o offer_v or_o sacrifice_n in_o his_o hand_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o go_v on_o express_v the_o honour_n to_o be_v then_o remember_v and_o the_o power_n and_o efficacy_n of_o christ_n death_n then_o represent_v where_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o this_o say_n of_o he_o the_o spirit_n have_v ordain_v all_o these_o thing_n which_o the_o romanist_n do_v much_o urge_v as_o if_o their_o prayer_n and_o offering_n for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n be_v by_o a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n relate_v to_o the_o help_n of_o one_o another_o by_o 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thing_n promise_v through_o the_o grace_n and_o merciful_a love_a kindness_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n a_o place_n parallel_n to_o the_o former_a he_o have_v in_o his_o third_n hom._n on_o the_o epist_n to_o the_o philip._n where_o speak_v of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o dead_a these_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d chrys_n in_o phil._n hom_n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o be_v not_o in_o vain_a ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o a_o remembrance_n be_v make_v of_o those_o that_o be_v dead_a in_o the_o most_o reverend_a and_o holy_a mystery_n for_o when_o all_o the_o people_n stand_v and_o the_o company_n of_o priest_n with_o their_o hand_n stretch_v out_o towards_o heaven_n and_o the_o great_a sacrifice_n lie_v
before_o they_o how_o shall_v we_o not_o they_o move_v and_o make_v god_n propitious_a while_o we_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v here_o again_o the_o romanist_n triumph_n as_o if_o st._n chrysost_o make_v their_o pray_v for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereas_o he_o plain_o restrain_v this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o above_o he_o do_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n and_o that_o concern_v only_o they_o who_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n nothing_o of_o soul_n in_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v mention_v in_o the_o ancient_a liturgy_n or_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n as_o for_o this_o father_n speak_v of_o prayer_n for_o such_o sinner_n as_o he_o describe_v in_o all_o the_o forementioned_a place_n such_o as_o be_v go_v to_o endless_a pain_n yet_o may_v receive_v as_o he_o think_v a_o little_a case_n thereby_o we_o must_v reckon_v it_o as_o a_o private_a opinion_n and_o misapplication_n of_o that_o practice_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v so_o much_o himself_o for_o in_o his_o forementioned_a hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n he_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o relation_n to_o those_o his_o exhortation_n for_o such_o prayer_n and_o offering_n these_o thing_n i_o speak_v not_o as_o one_o give_v precept_n or_o set_v a_o law_n but_o as_o one_o allow_v and_o condescend_v to_o the_o affection_n and_o frailty_n of_o man_n the_o romanist_n here_o reply_v that_o st._n chrysost_o and_o other_o seem_v to_o urge_v prayer_n for_o all_o because_o they_o know_v not_o who_o die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o repentance_n and_o so_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o hold_v those_o prayer_n appliable_a to_o and_o available_a for_o only_o those_o that_o die_v in_o that_o state_n and_o go_v to_o purgatory_n pain_n this_o be_v a_o mere_a shift_n for_o st._n chrysost_o do_v plain_o suppose_v that_o those_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n such_o 〈◊〉_d chrys_n hom_n 61._o in_o lo._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o god_n have_v see_v they_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v they_o off_o before_o their_o repentance_n as_o we_o have_v it_o above_o such_o as_o he_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v thus_o of_o of_o such_o a_o one_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o rejoice_v but_o only_o because_o the_o course_n of_o his_o wicked_a life_n be_v cut_v off_o yet_o for_o such_o he_o exhort_v to_o pray_v and_o offer_v and_o help_v he_o as_o they_o can_v and_o indeed_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o extend_v the_o benefit_n of_o prayer_n to_o such_o sinner_n be_v not_o any_o supposal_n of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o some_o mitigate_a and_o ease_v of_o those_o eternal_a pain_n to_o which_o such_o sinner_n be_v adjudge_v and_o this_o in_o part_n according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o the_o motion_n of_o humane_a affection_n of_o which_o st._n aug._n speak_v in_o his_o enchiridion_n c._n 111._o as_o we_o note_v above_o and_o to_o which_o affection_n st._n chrysost_o give_v too_o much_o scope_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o forementioned_a passage_n of_o prayer_n &_o oblation_n for_o such_o sinner_n but_o as_o for_o purgatory_n pain_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o begin_v at_o death_n &_o to_o end_v before_o the_o resurrection_n he_o know_v no_o such_o pain_n as_o evident_o appear_v by_o that_o exact_a distribution_n of_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o punishment_n make_v by_o this_o father_n and_o cite_v below_o nu._n 11._o what_o we_o have_v say_v of_o some_o expression_n of_o chrysost_n apply_v prayer_n and_o relief_n to_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o be_v describe_v may_v be_v say_v of_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n much_o urge_v out_o of_o st._n 〈◊〉_d cyril_n mist_n â—atech_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n who_o tell_v we_o they_o pray_v simple_o for_o all_o and_o account_v it_o a_o great_a help_n to_o those_o soul_n for_o which_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o great_a and_o holy_a sacrifice_n be_v offer_v and_o the_o great_a power_n which_o that_o prayer_n have_v to_o help_v he_o set_v out_o by_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o king_n entreat_v to_o pardon_n and_o call_v back_o one_o that_o be_v banish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o same_o manner_n say_v he_o we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n render_v god_n propitious_a now_o if_o it_o be_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n then_o by_o the_o force_n of_o this_o similitude_n it_o must_v be_v employ_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n may_v obtain_v pardon_n for_o sinner_n not_o reconcile_v to_o god_n before_o their_o death_n for_o so_o the_o banish_a person_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o his_o prince_n and_o then_o it_o sound_v to_o like_a purpose_n as_o those_o passage_n in_o chrysostom_n do_v and_o be_v but_o a_o private_a application_n or_o misapplication_n of_o that_o ancient_a practice_n neither_o agreeable_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n remember_v in_o her_o prayer_n and_o offering_n only_o those_o that_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n as_o by_o the_o form_n of_o those_o prayer_n may_v appear_v nor_o make_v any_o thing_n for_o purgatory_n which_o suppose_v the_o person_n reconcile_v and_o justify_v before_o he_o come_v there_o but_o if_o the_o sinner_n which_o cyril_n here_o say_v be_v pray_v for_o be_v take_v in_o a_o more_o remiss_a sense_n for_o such_o as_o the_o romish_a church_n send_v to_o purgatory_n then_o the_o pray_v for_o they_o come_v to_o no_o more_o than_o what_o we_o say_v above_o to_o epiphanius_n and_o dionysius_n that_o such_o prayer_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o passage_n of_o such_o soul_n and_o their_o appear_v in_o judgement_n not_o to_o their_o be_v in_o pain_n after_o death_n for_o that_o such_o person_n must_v appear_v in_o judgement_n the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o undergo_v a_o scrutiny_n or_o examination_n and_o have_v as_o it_o be_v their_o hay_n and_o stubble_n burn_v up_o be_v a_o catholic_n truth_n but_o that_o person_n reconcile_v to_o god_n die_v and_o rest_v in_o christ_n shall_v present_o go_v to_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v no_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n can_v not_o refer_v unto_o such_o person_n and_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o the_o undoubted_a cyril_n for_o those_o mystagogical_a catechism_n be_v think_v to_o be_v compose_v by_o john_n b._n 15._o cyril_n catech_n 15._o of_o jerusalem_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n when_o he_o come_v to_o judgement_n shall_v draw_v after_o he_o a_o 'slud_o of_o try_v fire_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o shall_v burn_v up_o all_o hay_n and_o stubble_n of_o their_o action_n so_o that_o if_o such_o sinner_n be_v pray_v for_o it_o must_v be_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o fire_n of_o trial_n and_o examination_n which_o they_o be_v to_o undergo_v in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o according_a to_o the_o true_a cyril_n thus_o much_o for_o that_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o the_o dead_a that_o it_o do_v not_o prove_v a_o belief_n of_o purgatory_n but_o be_v use_v upon_o other_o reason_n the_o three_o general_a head_n be_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n come_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n or_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v out_o of_o which_o the_o romanist_n will_v conclude_v a_o purgatory_n the_o text_n of_o scripture_n be_v our_o saviour_n speech_n mat._n 12.32_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v he_o neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v here_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o make_v good_a three_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o world_n to_o come_v signify_v the_o time_n beginning_n at_o every_o man_n death_n 2._o that_o from_o our_o saviour_n negative_a nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v this_o affirmative_a follow_v therefore_o there_o be_v some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v 3._o that_o if_o some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v then_o to_o they_o to_o who_o they_o shall_v be_v forgive_v there_o remain_v pain_n and_o torment_v to_o be_v suffer_v i._o for_o the_o time_n come_v of_o the_o world_n to_o come_v the_o world_n to_o come_v be_v not_o where_o put_v for_o the_o time_n between_o every_o man_n death_n and_o the_o resurrection_n for_o so_o it_o will_v be_v present_a to_o some_o and_o future_a to_o other_o but_o be_v every_o where_o seculum_fw-la futurum_fw-la which_o be_v so_o to_o every_o one_o whether_o it_o be_v take_v according_a to_o the_o jewish_a acception_n or_o the_o christian_n with_o the_o jew_n the_o world_n to_o come_v do_v sometime_o signify_v the_o time_n of_o their_o expect_a