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A43121 A collection of the Christian writings, labours, travels, and sufferings of that faithful and approved minister of Jesus Christ, Roger Haydock to which is added an account of his death and burial. Haydock, Roger, 1643-1696.; Haydock, John. A brief account of the life, travels, sufferings, and death of Roger Haydock.; Haydock, Roger, 1643-1696. Skirmisher confounded.; Haydock, Roger, 1643-1696. A hypocrite unveiled. 1700 (1700) Wing H1206; ESTC R25420 111,178 301

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noted down and kept since the Dispute in which I have been as short as I well could 〈◊〉 and that the Reader may also perceive the Dis-ingenuity of J. C. who would have his Reader to believe That many Quakers spoke besides R. H. and yet on the other side none spoke but J. B. and that until J. B. gave him leave to manage an Argument he was silent which was utterly false Now I shall examine J. C's Account of this Dispute which is as followeth That J. B. giving him leave to manage an Argument for proof That the Spirit by which the Quakers are acted is not the Spirit of God that 〈◊〉 upon J. B. to prove Reply John Cheyney hath clipped the Charge the Charge was and that which lay upon J. B. to prove That the Light and Spirit the Quakers are led by and direct People to is the Spirit of Antichrist This being the Charge i● appears by John Cheyney's account That John Barber had not proved his Charge but it lay upon him to prove The wrong J. C. hath done us 〈◊〉 this● 〈◊〉 clipping the Charge But to bring them 〈◊〉 near together The Quakers are led by the same 〈◊〉 by which they are acted and to the same Spirit by which they are led they direct People This then says J. C. as stating J. B's Charge The Quakers are not acted by the Spirit of God then not led by the Spirit of God then direct not People to the Spirit of God therefore that the Spirit the Quakers are acted by led by direct People to is the Spirit of Antichrist This then lay upon J. B. to prove viz. his Charge and having stated it upon J. B. at the latter end of the Dispute and since laid it in writing before him that his Charge was false and in a few lines cleared the People called Quakers of it I shall at present acquiesce in J. C's grant that it lay upon J. B. to prove and shall now examine what he hath done in proof thereof J. C. tells his Reader He propounded an Argument That the Quakers deny the faithful Ministers of Jesus Christ and his Holy Ordinances and so we not acted by the Spirit of God Answ If propounding of an Argument were proof that the Argument propounded were true then J. C. hath done something in telling his Reader He propounded an Argument to prove the Quakers are not acted by the Spirit of God But if propounding of an Argument be not proof as sure it is not that the Argument propounded is true then J. C. hath done nothing as to proof in telling his Reader He propounded an Argument to prove the Quakers are not acted by the Spirit of God so his Argument ends in nothing But J. C. tells his Reader He proved the Ministers whom the Quakers do utterly condemn and separate from to be Christ's Faithful Ministers by this Argument They teach sound Doctrine lead Godly Lives are duly Called to the Ministry have their Call and Commission from Christ and he Seals and Confirms their Ministry with the Conversion of Souls And if his Reader will but take his word for it he says He made evident all these Particulars and took off all their Cavils and Exceptions And yet further if his word may but find credit with his Reader In the judgment of all equal Hearers and Standers-by the Quakers were clearly overthrown Answ If J. C's telling his Reader ●e proof that those Ministers the Quakers separate from are Christ's Faithful Ministers or if his saying be made evident All those particulars which was his Argument That they teach sound Doctrine lead godly Lives were duly called to the Ministry had their Call and Commission from Christ and that he seals their Ministry with the Conversion of Souls were full proof or any proof at all against the Quakers then in the judgment of J. C. his Reader might acquiesce That the Quakers were overthrown But if J. C's telling his Reader He proved and saying He made all those Particulars evident not shewing in the least wherein be neither full proof nor any proof at all as sure it is not then in the Eye of any Impartial Reader the Quakers cannot be overthrown This Reader is the substance of what J. C. hath done to prove what lay upon J. B. to prove First He propounded an Argument Secondly he saith He proved it Thirdly he saith He made evident all those Particulars But what wise Man will believe him Lastly he saith The Quakers were overthrown if thou canst credit him but whether thou canst or no this is all the proof thou must have for he quickly tells thee He will forbear to make farther mention of this Dispute Well what J. C. confessed lay upon John Barber to prove lies still upon J. B. to prove for all that J. C. hath either said or done and not only upon J. B. but upon J. C. and who by thinking to ta●e the Thorn out of J. B's Hee● hath struck one full as deep in his own His proprounded Argument signifies nothing but to discover his Folly his saying He proved it is a meet Say-so and no more for he proved no more than J. B. proved and that was just nothing at all With Conversion of Souls of which J. C. boasts so much it was not confirmed that Day That J. C. was Victor and the Quakers Overthrown but on the contrary Truth that Day gaining and the Priests ●ing and that none of the meanest or weakest of their Hearers in the account of some of them in whom God's Witness being reached that Day since separated from them and joyned to the Quakers through believing in the Light wherein Fellowship with God is and with the Brethren also Therefore J. C. is a Ly● who says The Quakers were overthrown And although upon the fore recited Particulars I was not principally engaged with J. C. but rather my Friend Alexander Lawrence the matter being taken from J. B. and me yet I give Testimony 〈◊〉 my Testimony is true having the Evidence of God's Spirit with me That J. C. thereby to assume a Glory of a Conquest to himself hath Lyed wickedly in saying He proved his Argument and that the Quakers were clearly overthrown Therefore let his Iniquity stop his Mouth and shame come over him and let his Lyes perish that Truth may stand over his Head and take place with all Impartial Readers Since J. C. hath at least charged us to be revolted from the true Ministers and I may also say At the most but charged us for he hath proved no such thing I might write pretty largely to manifest That neither he nor any of his Brethren the Priests from whom we have turned away are faithful Ministers of Jesus Christ neither are truly called to the Ministry nor have Commission from Christ But because it is only the Examination of this Account concerning that Dispute at Croton I here intend and finding no Tract of his further to prove that he and his
pour out a double Portion of his Spirit upon us lest behind and raise up many more that so his Work may become Prosperous in the Earth Amen Oh how Comfortable is the Remembrance of that perfect Love Nearness and Unity that we enjoyed together without the least Jarr which made our Service and Labour together very easie and pleasant and our Conversation together very sweet And know that he was Open-hearted Free and Faithful to his Friend a great Lover as well as Promoter of Love Peace and Concord amongst Brethren able in Advice sound in Judgment tender and kind to the Weak every way ready to serve and help the Needful in every respect of a truly Humble and Lowly Spirit giving Preference to others especially Elders although a Man that had a kind of Greatness or Presence in a Manly Carriage or Deportment from which some might mistake him that knew him not in the Root of Life and Truth Fervent in Spirit Zealous for the Promotion of the Interest of Truth in a Godly-Discipline and Gospel-Order amongst all Friends and his Care and Labour that all might be found in the Practice of the pure Religion professed That so Zion might become Glorious the Praise of the whole Earth and the Church and Family of God be kept Pure and Chaste to shine forth in her Splendor the Eclipsing whereof in any respect I know was ever his Exercise and under the Exercise thereof have simpathized with him in Sorrow and Mourning whom I knew esteemed of and preferred the Peace Prosperity Wellfare and Increase of the Glory of Zion God's People far above his own His Natural Parts were great and augmented by a good and liberal Education All which being Sanctified as well as Inlarged by the Power of Truth made him both Honourable and Serviceable in the Church of Christ in many respects And tho' he be Dead yet Lives and Speaks amongst us and is Enjoyed in that Life which never Ends. And as he has turned many to Righteousness he now shines as a bright Star in the Firmament of God's Power and his Name will be of Lasting Remembrance amongst the Living T. Camm H. M's Testimony concerning our dear and faithful Friend Roger Haydock Deceased AMongst many of the Lord's Worthies whom in this our Day Age and Generation he hath endued with Wisdom Courage Valour and Prevalency in Innocency and Righteousness to make War without Carnal Weapons against the Spiritual Enemies of God and of his Son Christ Jesus the Lamb without Blemish that taketh away the Sin of the World this our dear Friend Roger Haydock was not one of the least who before I knew him was at the Challenges of Priests that opposed the Truth to which he bore Testimony several times engaged in Disputations as Defendant for the Truth professed and lived in by him and the People called Quakers against the false Charges of the Priests One Passage whereof being related to me by one of the party adverse to him when I was a Stranger to the Truth and to Roger Haydock tended to my Convincement and in hopes it may likewise be of good effect to others I shall here insert it viz. My Neighbour told me he had been at a Dispute between Mr. Cheyney as he called him and a Quaker whom I have since known to be Roger Haydock and and that Cheyney among other things charged the Quakers for not using Baptism of Infants Then I asked him how the Quaker answered to that He said Indeed the Quaker behaved himself very moderately and civilly in his way and answered That there was no Proof in the Scriptures of Truth for it and that it was only Men's Invention and by Man's Tradition that they held it and considering how they used it who professed the Scriptures to be their Rule which did not warrant them therein it appeared in them to be ridiculous both before God and Man Then I asked him What Proof Cheyney brought for it He answered to this effect That he did not understand that Cheyney brought any Proof for it This Relation induced me to seek for what Proof could be found for it because I had been taught that my Infant-Baptism was the Foundation of my Christianity thereupon diligently searching the Scriptures and after that reasoning with my Teachers I plainly saw there was no Proof from the Scriptures nor Authority from Christ to be found for it and that therefore my Foundation was unsound and the Building upon it dangerous and ruinous Therefore in a deep Sense of my want of a Foundation that could not be moved I left the Builders upon Infant-Baptism and earnestly sought unto the Lord who in his own time Revealed in me that Foundation which standeth sure even the Rock of Ages the Foundation of all the Generations of the Righteous that great Mystery hid from many Professors which is Christ in Believers the Hope of their Glory who Baptizeth them with Spiritual Water and Fire a Manifestation of whose Spirit is given to every Man to profit withal which inwardly Reproveth the Disobedient but Comforteth the Faithful who in it have true Unity and Fellowship one with another And in this I was in the Lord's time acquainted with this my aforesaid dear Friend and faithful Servant of Christ whose Service the Lord made of good effect to me by the aforesaid Relation of one that was as an Adversary to him and that a considerable time before I knew him for about the time that I left the aforesaid Builders my Teachers he was concerned in the Lord's Service in Ireland in the Year 1680. He was Laborious in the Service to which the Lord by his Grace had called him and for which he had fitted him in giving him largely to know and understand the deep Mysteries of his Kingdom and filling his Treasure with the durable Riches and Righteousness thereof And as he plenteously and freely received of the Lord so it was his delight and great Concern in the Counsel of God freely to give and impart Spiritual Gifts to others that many might be enriched with the same And therefore through great Travels Sufferings and Exercises he cheerfully went in the Lord's Service who blessed his Labours so that he was Instrumental in the Lord's Hand for the turning of many from Darkness to Light and from Satan's Power to God He was neither sparing of Himself nor his Substance to serve the Lord the Giver who blessed him as well with Temporal as Spiritual Blessings of both which he was very free in the Love of God to communicate having an especial Care over the Poor that none might want and a tender respect to the least appearance of Good in any that it might be incouraged He was concerned for the general Good of all but especially Serviceable in the Church of Christ being as a Pillar in the House of God firm and stable supporting the Weak and edifying the Houshold in Love His Ministry attended by the Lord's Power hath often hit my Condition
Word of Eternal Life of which this our faithful Friend was a Minister to which work the Lord by his Grace had called him and he freely gave up and devoted himself to that Service for which the Lord had well fitted and qualified him and made him of great Ability through the Spirit giving him sound Knowledge and deep Discerning to find out the Mysterious Workings of the Enemy of Mankind so that he was very skillful to divide the Word of Truth aright And at that time there was great Service to be done for the Lord for then many had tender Desires after the Knowledge of God and were Seeking and Enquiring after the way of Truth which leadeth to Eternal Life and to such he was an Helper and faithful Instructor in the Lord Jesus and being zealously Careful that he might compleat the Work and Service that the Lord had called him unto and promote the Interest and Honour of God and be Instrumental for the good of many of the Children of Men He went under a great Concern and Exercise of Spirit through great Travels Sufferings and Labour of Body preaching the Gospel of Christ freely that many might be turned to God and gain the Knowledge of him and be gathered into the one Fold and Pasture of Eternal Life out of the By-Ways and Dark Paths and Vain Religions of the worldly-minded and so might know a coming out of Darkness and a walking in the true Light and way of Life and Righteousness that they might please their Creator and answer the end of his Love revealed in his Son and manifested in the Light And the Lord who imployed him in his Service blessed his endeavours therein for many received his Testimony and thereby were turned from Darkness to Light and out of the Paths of Error into the Way of Righteousness His Labours and Travels are in part declared by his Journal which sheweth his Travels in several Countries and Nations and sometimes amongst People of a strange Language A blessed work he went through in faithfulness unto the End He was a great Helper and of great Service in the Church of Christ and his Labours and Ministry therein were very successful he was often prevalent to end Differences and Discord where the Enemy had sown any amongst Brethren His Doctrine received of the Lord was sound and deep Matters were often opened by him and it was his delight to do Service for God and to help the good Work forward in any he being earnestly concerned that all that knew God might Glorifie him as God And the Lord blessed him whilst here with such Mercies as appertain to the making of a Man's Life Comfortable in this World which the Lord saw no doubt he was worthy of who richl● recompenseth all those that Love him and Seek his Honour and the Welfare of his Church as this our faithful Friend did and his Memorial will be long upon the Earth amongst the Generations of the Righteous I might write much concerning him and his Vertuous Life which was Comely and Honourable and of a loving and friendly Behaviour amongst Men His Company was Pleasant and Profitable and many were sorry to part with him But though his Removal hence be a loss to many yet I am well assured that he hath gained thereby and is in the enjoyment of Peace and of an endless Treasure in Heaven amongst the number of the Blessed with Christ in his Kingdom and being at rest from his Labours his Works follow him And it is my earnest desire that we who are left behind which is but for a little space may so improve our Time and Gifts that in the end we may have a Share of the same Reward that is laid up for all the Faithful James Laithwait A Brief Account c. An EPISTLE to FRIENDS of Blackrod Meeting IN Love unfained do I Salute you and in the Fear of God Exhort you to Faithfulness and in the Word of the Lord Counsel you To be Watchful in your Meetings that the weighty Work and Service of God which he hath concerned you in be not slighted by any of you through Unfaithfulness and want of Watchfulness Friends The Seed which God hath sown is good if you be watchful it will grow and prosper and cover the Ground and the Earth will be blessed But if you sleep the Enemy will sow Tares which will grow up with it and choke it so the Ground that affords them nourishment will be cursed This is the Word of Truth unto you so as in Love to the Seed which is good and in Bowels of Compassion to your Immortal Souls which are of great Price in the sight of God desiring the Seed's Prosperity and your Souls Good in the sense of its Suffering and of the Deprivation of God's Love unto you who in this Incumbent Duty of Watchfulness have been negligent it hath been upon me many times in the Motion of God's Spirit to Reprove your Negligence and likewise Exhort and Admonish you to Faithfulness in that Duty whilst conversant with you even so since remote from you outwardly separated and under Bonds restrained the sence of the Non-performance of that so weighty a Duty on your behalf who are herein concerned whereby God's Righteous Soul hath been vexed and the Spirit of the Upright and Sincere-hearted to God amongst you have been made sad hath sometimes come before me to my grief and yet remaineth in my view to the saddening of my Spirit who am truly a well-wisher of Zion and one though outwardly confined yet travels for the Prosperity of Jerusalem in Spirit which is at liberty which Man cannot confine Therefore it entered my Heart in the Word of Truth to signifie God's Counsel unto you That ye be watchful that the good Seed which God hath sown may grow deeply having depth of Earth even room in the honest Heart that it may bring forth in some Thirty in some Sixty in some an Hundred fold but in all of you some to his Praise lest the Enemy sow his Seed and it grow and the Ground be nigh unto cursing whose end is to be burned And Friends another word hath often run thorough me when present with you That you Love one another and the same word is in me though I be from you whereby I know the Cause yet remains in you And truly I may take up a Lamentation for you who are concerned who will not be counselled How often hath the Lord striven with you How often hath his Word been spoken unto you And how often hath his Servants laboured amongst you And do you yet live in Strife and Contention Truly I am sorry for you and that the precious Truth is dishonoured by you it is a grief upon my Spirit and upon the Spirits of the Upright-hearted among you If therefore you have an Ear to hear hear put away Strife Envy and Contention and labour a Reconciliation in the Love if so be the Lord's Anger may be appealed
no wonder for though it be not very long since he turned Parson and crept in among the Chemmarims or Men of the Back Robe for formerly he he was a Justice's Clerk and thirsted eagerly after the Quakers Money but as yet I hear not that he returned them their Money again yet in this short time he hath defiled his own Nest charged his Brethren with Vile Hypocrisie stiled them Hypocritical Ministers yet of himself saith I am the most Rude and Vnskilful of all thy Ministers Hath he not marked his own Nose What constrained him to Pray Hypocritically Dissemble with God and Lye to the Almighty Not the Truth for there is no Lye of it not the Spirit of Truth for that leadeth into all Truth He hath been acted by another spirit Well he is seen by many to be what he is an Hypocrite And whereas he saith Many will not endure such Preachers as he I add No doubt But from henceforth some that have heard him and approved of him being simply betrayed by him now seeing him will hear him no more but quite turn their Backs on that Rude Distracted Hypocritical Dissembling Lying Minister all which his own Confession proves him to be also a Base Wicked Confused Blaspheming Priest all which his own Works prove him to be Now if any moderate Enquirer shall ask a Reason Why I heap these things upon him I answer I am only an Instrument in the Lord's Hand and the God of Heaven is pouring Contempt upon him he hath lift up himself and not by the Lord and therefore the Lord is casting him down For the Truth 's sake and for the sake of the Simple-hearted where this may come have I collected these passages out of his Works giving the Title of the Book and Page in which whoso desires may in his Books read them more at large Many gross things I have pass'd by in his Books especially Quakerism subverted as also in his Skirmish the latter being fully answered already It is for Truth 's sake and the sake of People's Souls which are misguided that thus far I have run through his dirty Channel what I have written I commend to every Man's Conscience in the light of God who am Truth 's Friend and the Soul's Friend but an Enemy to that which misguided Roger Haydock A HYPOCRITE UNVAILED AND A BLASPHEMER Made Manifest Being an Examination of Iohn Cheyney's False Relation of his Dispute with the Quakers at Arley-Hall in Cheshire the 23d of the 11th Month called January 1699. Published in his Book Entituled A Warning to Souls c. Wherein John Cheyney's Lyes and Slanders are Detected his Hypocrisie is Unvailed his Confusion and Blasphemy is Manifested which he hath Published in his foresaid Book That the Simple-hearted People may see John Cheyney the pretended Gospel-Minister is No Minister of Jesus Christ By a Disciple of Christ Roger Haydock Isa 28.15 We have made Lyes our Refuge and under Falshood have we hid our selves Verse 17. The Hail shall sweep away the Refuge of Lyes and the Waters shall over-flow the biding-place Obad. 1.3 The Pride of thine Heart hath deceived thee Rev. 13.6 He opened his Mouth in Blasphemy against God to Blaspheme his Name his Tabernacle and them that dwelt in Heaven A HYPOCRITE Unvailed AND A BLASPHEMER Made Manifest c. IT is not a Narrative of the Dispute I had with John Cheyney at Arley-Hall in Cheshire upon the 23d Day of the 11th Month last past that in this Treatise I am purposed to give for that would require an impartial Reiteration and faithful Relation of all that was spoken on both parts which Task I am unwilling to undertake First Because I have not John Cheyney's Crutch which he leaned upon at the said Dispute I mean his Notes which he Disputed by he may well bear the Repetition of his own Expression published to the World in his Sermons of Hypocrisie p. 203 204. where he saith Such as do use Notes in publick it is but as a Lame Man that makes use of a Crutch or as a Weak-sighted Man of Spectacles And that he made use of his Notes in that Publick Dispute it was evident to some Hundreds of People which Notes I having not cannot relate every thing that was spoken by J. C. in his assaying to prove his false Charges Secondly Because something of what the Lord gave me that day to speak in defence of the Truth is not now in my Remembrance it being some Months since the Dispute and I had not Notes to Dispute by like J. C. neither did I put Pen to Paper concerning it or premeditate before hand what to say that not being Truth 's Way nor according to Christ's Command but expresly contrary Mat. 10.19 20. Take no thought how or what ye shall speak for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak For it is not ye that speak but the Spirit of the Father which speaketh in you But I was resigned in the Will of God and stood in his Counsel and it was given me of God whose Presence was that day with me who blessed my Undertaking concerning that Dispute to him alone be the Praise what to speak in Defence of the Truth whereby the Truth was cleared the People called Quakers and their Religion defended from John Cheyney's wicked Charges against both and J. C. proved a Lyar and a Deceiver Something of what was spoken-by-me which had then its Service is not now in my Remembrance so as to give a particular Account of every word I then spoke Therefore it 's not a Narrative of the Dispute I intend but an Examination of J. C's false Relation given concerning the said Dispute is chiefly hereby intended in order to detect his Lyes that the Truth may appear in which Examination I shall relate something of what was spoken and for clearing things to the Reader shall further declare my fence as the Lord opens things in me But before I come to Examine J. C's Relation of the Dispute at Arley I must intreat the Reader 's patience by the way to go along with me in the Examination of J. C's Account given of a Dispute at Croton in Cheshire between Mr. B. Minister of Wareham and Roger Haydock a Quaker I think it expedient for the opening the Matter to give the Reader a brief Relation how this Dispute was occasioned that it may appear I did not Challenge a Dispute with this Mr. B. as J. C. calls him whose Name is John Barber a thing I am clear of though of late I have been twice concerned in Disputation yet as Defendant through the daring Challenges the Priests have given amongst whom this J. C. of all others hath exceeded of which something more hereafter About the middle of the 4th Month 1676. I was in Cheshire at a Meeting of God's People at a place called Kingsley where there were some People lately Convinced of the Truth some of which were Parishioners and had
Peter alludes 2 Pet. 1.20 21. No Prophesie of the Scripture is of any private Interpretation Mark for the Prophesie came not in old time by the will of Man but holy Men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost The Apostle here speaks of the Prophesies of the Scripture what was spoken in the Motion of the Holy Ghost Now that all that was spoken and is written in the Bible was spoken in the Motion of the Holy Ghost there being something spoken by wicked Men in the Bible which was my assertion J. C. doth not affirm But J. C. will have it That every word in the whole Bible was given by the Inspiration of God to the Holy Pen-Men who were inspired to write them Reply This alters the state of the Controversie betwixt us which was about speaking forth what afterwards was Recorded in Scripture viz. what the Serpent and wicked Men spoke who called Christ Beelzebub a Samaritan and said He had a Devil c. It was not the Historical Relation that we were about but of its being spoken before Recorded we were arguing I said The Serpent the Devil and wicked Men spoke words which are recorded in Scriptures and none of them spoke those words in the Motion of God's Spirit But though it be a little beside the matter I query How J. C. will prove yet I deny not that the holy Pen Men of Scriptures had God's Spirit and were assisted by it in the recording the words of wicked Men that every Pen-Man that writ of the Scriptures writ not a word but what was opened in him by the Inspiration of God which he neither heard of Man nor received from Man but in the Immediate Revelation of God received it and by Inspiration writ it Or whether some of the Pen-Men saw not with their outward Eyes several things which they writ of and heard not with their outward Ears several words which are written in the Scripture which they heard of Men According to Luke 1.1 2 3 4. Acts 1.1 23.16 to 23.1 Cor. 1.10 11. Gal. 2.11 c. Gen. 42.29 45.9 to 28. Judges 16.17 18. 2 Sam. 1.5 to 17. 18.10 c. Esther 4. J. C. in page 21. saith R. H. in the Dispute did openly affirm That God did no where command us to walk according to the Scriptures and the Laws and Doctrines of the Scriptures but all are to walk in the Spirit and after the Spirit and according to the Spirit wickedly opposing the Spirit and his Holy Laws He was quickly silenced c. Reply In this I may truly say John Cheyney hath far exceeded not only the bounds of Truth but Honesty in forging Lyes and publishing a false Accusation and Slander against me to render me odious in the sight of good Men But sure I am notwithstanding J. C's wicked Lyes false Accusation and Slander which I hope will find no more acceptance with good Men than his Hypocritical Praying Dissembling and Lying hath with God as in his Prayer-Book p. 141. that I never so said neither ever so intended For first it is against my Principle the Spirit of Truth leads into all Truth such who stand in the counsel of it and are freely given up to be led by it This Spirit is in the inward parts and that is some-where and God by it in our inward parts commands us to walk Holily Righteously and Godlily in this World to observe his Precepts and keep his Commandments love God above all things and our Neighbours as our selves and to do to all Men as we would they should do to us this is the Law and the Prophets and to own the Precepts Doctrines Laws and Commandments contained in the Scriptures and fully to believe That God who by his Spirit gave them forth through his Prophets commanded that People should keep them and walk in his fear and be Witnesses of the fulfilling of them and walk and live in that Holy Life the Scriptures declare of and this walking is according to the Scriptures Secondly It is contrary to my Practice But lest J. C. or any other if I should speak what I might speak in the Truth concerning it should judge me to boast concerning my Practice I shall say thus much It is such as in measure becomes the Gospel fearing God eschewing Evil and this is according to Scripture And for my Conversation in the World to them who know me and know it also I shall leave it for them to speak further thereof as they find cause whether it be not in measure according to the Conversation of those who in times past walked not after the Flesh but after the Spirit Rom. 8.1 I did and I do assert as before That the Spirit of God is the Rule of Saving Faith and that the Apostles did not direct People to the Scriptures to be the Rule of Saving Faith or say Walk in the Scriptures they are the Rule For although the Apostle commended the Noble Bereans for searching the Scriptures c. so did he for receiving the Word with diligence but he did not direct the Bereans to the Scriptures to be the Rule of Saving Faith But the Apostle and Apostles directed People to the sure Word of Prophesie which was nigh in the Heart 2 Pet. 1.19 Rom. 10.8 And turned them from Darkness to Light from Satan's Power to the Power of God Acts 26.18 To the Vnction of the Holy One the Anointing within which teacheth all things 1 John 2.27 To the Spirit thereby to mortifie the Deeds of the Body that they might live Rom. 8.13 To walk in the Spirit Gal. 4.16 Walk in the Spirit and ye shall not fulfil the Lusts of the Flesh I say because I thus asserted and also proved the Spirit to be the Rule of Saving Faith and not the Scriptures and the Apostles directed to the Spirit for the Rule and not to the Scriptures to be the Rule and that they did not say Walk in the Scriptures they are the Rule but Walk in the Spirit I say because I did prefer the Spirit to be the Rule of Faith before the Scriptures yet owned the Scriptures in their place Therefore J. C. hath impiously charged me that I said God did no where command us to walk according to the Scriptures yet in Contradiction to himself he grants I affirmed All things are to walk in the Spirit after the Spirit and according to the Spirit all this is very good and if I said it I own it But here is his Contradiction in allowing I said All mast walk in the Spirit and after the Spirit and according to the Spirit which are Scriptural Expressions he grants I affirmed All must walk according to the Laws and Dctrines in the Scriptures for the Spirit which he grants I affirmed all must walk in after and according to viz. the Spirit of Truth commands and leads to keep those Doctrines and observe those Laws and Precepts in Scripture which concern a Holy Life
This is so evident a Truth that whosoever hath an Eye to see with may run and read And for his saying We wickedly oppose the Spirit and his Holy Laws I say He wickedly Belyes and Slanders us for we own the Spirit in its place and the Scriptures in their place not opposing them And whereas he saith He quickly silenced me It is a Lye like the rest and he that published it is a Lyar whom having rebuked for it I leave it J. C. page 18. saith As to Matters of Practice he did before all the Assembly charge and prove them to be such as Paul describes Rom. 16.17 18. Men that serve not our Lord Jesus Christ but their own Belly and by good Words and fair Speeches deceive the Hearts of the Simple Reply That J. C. did charge the Quakers to be such as Paul describes c. I grant it being the second of the seven Charges in his fore-cited Paper of Charge that was disputed upon that day but that J. C. proved the Quakers to be such I deny and at the Dispute did sufficiently clear the People called Quakers from that wicked Slander and impious Change wherewith J. C. most impudently Charged them But J. C. relates the Argument whereby he proved as he vainly imagines the Charge against us in that we are Apostates and Turn-coats from the true Faith This is his Argument Reply That we are Apostates and Turn-coats from the true Faith is a Charge as false as the other which he intended this to have been an Argument to prove and this hath been J. C's accustomed way in essaying to prove his Charges against the Quakers viz. One false Charge by another Charge no more true than the former The true Faith is the Gift of God this we are not turned from it is delivered unto us as it was delivered unto the Saints it was their Victory and is our Victory even our Faith our Faith stands in God's Power we live by it The Just shall live by Faith Hab. 2.4 This is the true Faith by which the Just lives we are turned from such as have not the One Faith Ephes 4.5 For all Men have not Faith 2 Thess 3.2 And from such who having in some things the Form of Godliness but deny the Power thereof according as the Apostle exhorted some in his day 2 Tim. 3.5 And we are justified by the Lord in so doing So that J. C's Argument is a false wicked Charge we are not turned from the true Faith but from such as have it not But J. C. says He did with sober compassionate Zeal and a warm affected Heart make Challenge to R. H. to give any one Reason for their Apostacy Reply Sober Compassionate Zeal c. J. C. might well have omitted to mention who rather appeared sometimes that day like a Stage-Player than a sober Disputant I might say like one acting the Fool 's part in a Play at times he rather behaved himself than like a moderate Man such words as these in an airy spirit he vented forth I 'll be with thee anon Thou hadst better have kept that word in Thou hast now put a Weapon into my Hand I never thought of with these and the like Expressions stirring up some People to Laughter and putting them into an Expectation he would do some great Matter But alas Their foolish vain Hopes with his fond Conceit were both frustrated for when he had room to speak he acted but like a Fool with his wooden Sword made a Vapour but effected nothing save Shame to himself Now as to his Challenging me to give any one Reason for our Apostacy I answer No wise Man can expect that I should give any one Reason for our Apostacy who are not Apostatized but have the Evidence of God's Spirit that we have the Faith delivered unto us that was delivered unto the Saints for that were to give a Reason for what we are not Nay I am perswaded none but a Novice or a Fool would require it But this is not the first Distraction besides his being Distracted in Prayer J. C. hath run into J. C. saith R. H could give no Reason at all nor had any mind to argue it but shifted it off That the Quakers Religion Ministry Worship and Churches were opposite to theirs And if his Reader will take his word for it he saith He hath given R. H. and his Fellows an Argument at Croton which could not be answered or gainsaid by any of them then nor can they ever answer it Reply That the Quakers Religion Ministry Worship and Church are opposite to J. C's Religion Ministry Worship and Church J. C. hath asserted and if he do believe it what needs further Proof But would not J. C. have been shifting from the Charge and broaching new Matter He would sometimes have been begging the Question to have wrested me from the Charge but keeping him to the Point not giving him leave to Catechise me having put him upon the Proof of his Charge I kept him to it not suffering him to start new Arguments to lead from it he failed in Proof and came off with Infamy As to the Argument at Croton it was there gain-said and answered therefore J. C. is a Lyar who said It could not be answered or gain-said the Invalidity of which Argument may be seen in the former part of this Treatise where I have run it through J. C. saith He repeated the same Argument at Arley Dispute but that I declined the Arguing of it and was utterly unable to maintain my own Religion and to take off the Charge That the Quakers are Belly-gods and Flesh-servers Reply I declined not the Argument for the Validity of it but because it led from the Charge J. C. had undertaken to prove viz. That the Quakers were Belly-gods c. And it being gain said and answered already I shall pass it by only note to the Reader that J. C. said at Croton You own'd the Doctrine which was according to the Ten Commandments Lord's Prayer and Creed To which I replied The Doctrine of the Commandments which is To love God with all the Heart with all the Soul Might and Strength is owned by us and the Doctrine of the Lord's Prayer which is That the Will of God may be done in Earth as it is in Heaven we also own But that you who preach this for Doctrine live up to it we deny and therefore are turned from you And as to the Creed we believe in God and in Christ To this J. C. replied not I suppose that in all his Notes he had nothing writ in Defence of his Cause in this point and perhaps being accustomed to lean upon his Crutch he would not venture to go without it But however it was whether he would not or could not I shall leave it with the Impartial Reader to judge Yet sure I am his Silence was so far a Consent to my Assertion that all unbiassed Hearers could do no less
Dispute in handling this Point and as he words it lost the Day Yet he is not ashamed in his Relation to tell his Reader I had nothing to say against any of his Arguments there He is the same J. C. a Lyar and one that makes Lyes his Refuge and under Falshood would hide himself but the Hail will sweep away the Refuge of Lyes and the Waters will cover the Hiding Place Isa 28.15 17. J. C. saith in page 17. As to my words in my Prayer Book thence he would conclude me a Hypocrite out of my own Mouth Reply It is true I did conclude and also prove J. C. at the Dispute a Hypocrite out of his own Mouth I shall lay down his words as spoken by him and published to the World in his Book of Prayer pag. 141. I am compelled to Pray Hypocritically and Dissemble with God and utter Vntruths to him that searcheth the Hearts and delighteth not but in upright Lips These are J. C's words word by word Upon which I thus argue He that saith he prays Hypocritically Dissembles with God and utters Untruths to the Searcher of Hearts confesses himself a Hypocrite a Deceiver and a Lyar. But J. C. saith He Prays Hypocritically Dissembles with God and utters Untruths to the Searcher of Hearts therefore John Cheyney confesses himself a Hypocrite a Deceiver and a Lyar and was so proved out of his own Mouth My Charge against him That he was a Lyar and a Deceiver was by me at the Dispute proved to the full and stands over his Head to this day And it seems J. C. at the last hath cried Peccavi It is much for so hot a Skirmisher to retract any thing he hath spoken and especially to publish his Recantation to the World he tells his Reader If those words were out of his Book they should not so be in judging it an Incommodious Expression which he should have avoided and wisheth It had not been said Yet he queries What if these Words and the Book had not been writ Reply Taking it for granted that by these words and his Book he is proved a Hypocrite a Deceiver and a Lyar yet I say before this Book was written he was a Hypocrite a Deceiver and a Lyar and so I could have proved him if this Book had never been written But J. C. sure concludes because I took this way I had no other but that is false Yet taking this way for proof of my Charge I may truly say I needed no other sufficient Proof being made What fuller and clearer Proof that a Man is an Hypocrite to the satisfaction of an Auditory can be made than his own Confession Though we may not believe a Man to be every thing that he says he is or every thing that he says of himself to be true yet sure when a Man saith He is what he is and says of himself what is true we have just ground to believe him J. C. saith He Prayeth Hypocritically Dissembles with God and utters Vntruths to the Searcher of Hearts And in page 45. of the same Book There is much detestable Hypocrisie committed by us in our solemn Prayers to God both in secret in private and in publick He saith in page 130. I am distracted in Prayer I am soon weary I come poorly off my Foes are too hard for me Why go I mourning all the day long when the Comforter which should relieve my Soul is gone from me Also in page 145. I Tremble to have my Luke-warm Prayers abhorred by God and spued out of his Mouth and cast in my Face as Dung. And several more such like Confessions to his Hypocrisie which in his Book of Prayer may be seen which for brevity sake I pass by Now I do believe that what J. C. hath confessed and said of himself is true That he Prays Hypocritically Dissembles with God and Lyeth to the Almighty that there is detestable Hypocrisie the Character of an Hypocrite committed by him in his Prayers to God that he is Distracted in Prayer that the Comforter which would relieve his Soul is gone from him and that he may tremble to have his Luke-warm Prayers abhorred by God and cast in his Face like Dung And why any impartial Man should believe to the contrary I see no Reason It is a Maxim in Law grounded upon Reason That a Man's Evidence may be believed against himself though not for himself Neither doth J. C. himself retract any thing he hath said of his detestable Hypocrisie Distraction and Lukewarmness in Prayer which are signs and tokens of an Hypocrite nor of the Comforter being gone from his Soul which is a deplorable State yet this seems not so much to be his Trouble as that he hath not so worded the matter but that every one who believes what he hath said of himself to be true must conclude him a Hypocrite a Deceiver and a Lyar out of his own Mouth And though he be all this and hath both confessed and published it to the World yet he would not be so accounted Further J. C. after his Recantation saith If R. H. and his Friends would but read that Book with the same Spirit that it was writ this had not needed Reply R. H. doth not believe that Book was writ by the Inspiration of God for then there had been no need of a Recantation But J. C. wisheth That some Words had been left out and some Expressions in his Book had not been said Doth he not therefore Repent they were written And R. H. desires not to read either that Book or any other with that confused lying spirit which acted him that writ that Book but with the Spirit of God which tries and judges all false spirits The Lyes Contradictions Slanders Confusions and Blasphemy that is broached in that Book is proof sufficient that it was not written by the Inspiration of God but that a lying blaspheming spirit hath entered and acted him that writ it and the Spirit of God in and through R. H. and his Friends judges the Book and that spirit by which it was writ But would not J. C. if he could perswade R. H. and his Friends to believe That Book was written by Inspiration and that he was Inspired by God to write it if this be the thing he aims at he hath evidently manifested his Folly who hath denied the infinite Spirit of God to be in Man and yet would he have us to read his Book with the same Spirit by which it was writ Doth he not mean the Spirit of God If not then would he not have R. H. and his Friends read his Book with another Spirit than the Spirit of God And so might they be blind and deluded like himself and call Good Evil and Evil Good put Light for Darkness and Darkness for Light But if at this he aimed he is like to come off with Shame For R. H. and his Friends can joyn to no other Spirit but the Spirit of God which
am compelled to pray Hypocritically and Dissemble with God and utter Untruths unto him I shall not be able to cover or conceal my Wickedness from the World if I get to Heaven it must be by this Trade of Begging Here observe Dissembling with God and uttering Untruths unto him praying Hypocritically Luke-warm Prayers Distraction in Prayer Compelling himself to Pray that he might conceal his Wickedness from the World hath been J. C's Practice whereby it is apparent J. C. was not partaker of the Spirit of Holiness nor acted by it in such services but is of another spirit than the Spirit of God That the Quakers mortally hate J. C. is a false slander for the Light in which the Quakers have believed and walk hath taught them to have true Love to God and good Will to all Men but to oppose wicked spirits and deny all Wickedness Now that spirit whereby J. C. hath been acted in Dissembling with God and uttering Untruths unto him in Dissembling with God and uttering Untruths unto him in belying the Light and the Children of it together with their pure and undefiled Religion in Blaspheming the Light of Christ the Spirit of God calling it Diana Dagon a Dumb Idol comparing it to a Drunken Coash-man c. is a wicked spirit which together with J. C's Wickedness viz. his Lyes Slanders Hpocrisie Confusion Blasphemy c. The Fruits thereof the Light which shineth in Man hath shined in and through the Quakers the Children of Light plentifully to discover and ●lay them open to the Readers view which wicked Spirit together with its Fruits the Quakers are Enemies to and perfected ly hate And that many of J. C's own Way who agree with him in Opinion Hate him is no new thing for formerly the Lord set the Enemies of his People one against another and one helped to destroy another 2 Chron. 20.22 23. And the Lord is the same who for his Israel's sake is dashing the Potsherds of the Earth one against another and hath appeared and is appearing against this J. C. who hath hardened his Heart as Pharaoh and the Egyptians hardened their Hearts and set himself against the Light and Children of Light to close again the Flood which hath been divided by the mighty Power of God for the Children of Light to pass through and overwhelm J. C. that as he doth appear to many to be a Minister of Death he may likewise so appear to all People For the Truth 's sake that no Lye may rest upon it and for the sakes of the simple-hearted where this may come is this written that such who can see may see that John Cheyney's Tongue hath risen up in Judgment against Israel and God hath confounded him And what I have written I do do commend to every Man's Conscience in the sight of God And concerning this J. C. do thus conclude That in him these Scriptures are fulfilled Psal 7.15.16 He made a Pit and digged it and is fallen into the Ditch which he made his Mischief shall return upon his own Head And to God who is on our side who hath taken the Wicked in his own Craftiness and fettered him in his own Net my Soul ascribes all the Praise to whom be Glory for ever and ever A Salutation to Friends of the Men and Womens Meetings DEarly beloved Friends Brethren and Sisters with whom my Soul hath precious Unity in the Seed of God and pure Fellowship in the Life of Righteousness unto you all beloved of God and right well beloved of my Soul In the abiding Love of God am I your dear Brother in the Tribulation and Patience of the Lamb in Life drawn forth to write unto you and express something of that Life and Love that is upon my Heart in a living as well as fresh remembrance of you to whom I give the endeared and truly cordial Salutation of right brotherly Love My very Heart is knit to you and in Spirit I am present with you beholding your comely Order I am verily refreshed in your Life and abundantly comforted in abiding Love my Soul honours you in the Lord you Elders of Israel and for your Humility my spirit saith That you are worthy of Praise Your Condescention one unto another in the Truth and to the Truth in whomsoever it appeared your giving way hath been and is clear demonstration to me you have sought Truth 's Honour and not your own and therefore my Soul praises God let it be so for ever the greatest amongst you serving the least the younger submitting to the elder submitting also one unto another Indeed your remembrance hath lived much upon me since I parted with you and Breathings to the God of my Life have run thorough me for your preservation and increase in Unity with the Lord God and one another And my dearly beloved a consideration of your preferring one another in the Truth whereby the Truth hath gained the Preheminence hath even melted my Heart into tenderness of Spirit I have said Let it be so for ever Of a truth I can say to the Praise of God who hath honoured you The good Order of the Gospel is amongst you and where ever yet I have Travelled and what Methods soever I have veiwed in the midst of all I on your behalf have blessed God for his Wisdom wherewith he hath endowed you I hope finding you praise worthy without offence I may speak thus much of you I can bear my Reccord you having Wisdom have done justly and having Mercy obtained have Mercy shewed and that which is a Pearl indeed you have walked humbly with your God If I may live again to see you and in a measure of the fulness of the Gospel come unto you in the full performance of the same Duty let my Soul find you In the mean while dearly beloved in humility dwell and the Grace and Peace of God be daily multiplied upon you and let your fervent breathings and earning desires be for one another and in a tender healing Spirit be you always found and evermore live together in Love and for me your younger Brother who am outwardly separated from you and bound in Spirit for Travel in the labour of the Gospel Let your breathings in Life to the God of Life be That God will be pleased to give me a door of Utterance and prosper the work in his hand He hath called and yet is calling into to the Praise of his own Glory Dear Friends a long Epistle I intend not you are Elders ruling well to whom double honour for the Works sake I can freely give Having eased my Heart a little not questioning but to be rightly understood by you and in Life's Record more fully so be read by you My Life greets you all together and my Soul salutes you one by one with a Kiss of Love the God of Israel overshadow you with his Glory for ever My dear Companion salutes you all And by this you may know that in a few