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A66855 A declaration to the Baptists concerning the name of the Lord, and what it is to be baptized thereinto, and the nature of the Lord, and what it is to be made partaker thereof : and sheweth that none can be saved, but such as are baptized into the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, into which name and nature, the apostles were sent to baptize, and not into water : shewing also, that the apostles were made the administrators of the Spirits baptism ... : also a discovery of the Baptists foundation ... / written by one who was sometimes one with them in the shadows ... but have now found the day wherein the shadows flee away, and hath received another name besides Humphry Wollrich. Wollrich, Humphry, 1633?-1707. 1659 (1659) Wing W3290; ESTC R39137 27,678 39

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MARGERET BEEBY THOMAS HARVEY ISABEL HACKER ANd because you may not say that I wrong you in saying that you have set up Shadows Types and Figures above the Life and Substance which is Christ and visible carnal perishing things above the Invisible unchangeable Word of the Lord which endures for ever I shall here set down a few of your principal Doctrines by which ye Judge the principals of Christ and they that are found therein to be Apostates and deceivers which I shall here mention and answer something thereunto and so leave it to Gods witness in ye all to Judge whether you are deceivers and Apostates or we And I am troubled for you all my heart is broken for you all who are hardning your selves against the Lord and like the Jewes have painted your selves as the Jewes did who were the greatest enemies of the Lord when he came and I am pained at my very heart for you all and my life bears the Iniquitie of many and I am pressed as a Cart is pressed that is full of sheaves for your mountain is exalted above the Lord and great is the oppression of the Holy seed read and understand Isa 53.5 4. Psal 11.4 The sorrows of death compass me the floods of ungodly men made me afraid the sorrows of Hell compass me about the snares of death prevented me verse 11. He made thick darkness his secret place and his pavillion round about were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies the Lord also thundreth in the Heavens and the Highest gave his voice hail-stones and coals of fire ye he sent out his Arrows and scattered them then the Channels of water were seen and the foundations of the World were discovered read Iames 3.6 If you have an ear to hear what the Spirit saith at the rebuke of the Lord at the blast of the breath of his nostrils he sent from above and took me he drew me out of many waters he delivered me from my strong enemy and from them which hated me for they were too strong for me he brought me forth also into a large place he delivered me because he dilighted in me verse the 18. and 19. Your first principle is this held forth at that dispute 1. That faith is an act of the creatures and not Gods gift But because I have spoken something to this already I shall add these Scriptures for the Reader and leave it Ephisians 2 8 and 1 Cor. 12.9 And all our righteousnesses is as filthy rages but the Lord worketh all our works in us and for us and what is not of faith is sin 2. That a wicked man whilest a wicked m●n is justified by Christ and hath accesse unto and may freely lay hold upon all the merits of Christ Ans To which I say you are they which justifie your selves being wicked and out of the faith which should purifie your hearts and seek to be justified by Christ while your selves are found sinners and so would make Christ as you are Ministers of sin Galathians 2.17 But he that justifieth the wicked and he that condemneth the righteous as ye do even they are both an abominateon to the Lord Prov 17.15 3. That the Bible was the life of their souls and comfort of their souls Ans To this I say miserable are you and miserable are all your comforters who have set up another comforter then the consolation of Israel and the comforts of God and the consolations of God are small in you read John 14 16 17. And saith Christ I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever even the spirit of truth whom the World cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but you know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you I will not leave you comfortlesse I will come unto you William Ainsworth did affirm and John Brown likewise at his fathers house that Paul in baptising with water and not by commission was wicked and acted wickedly therein Ans First I shall prove what I there then did affirm That Paul was not sent to Baptize neither was his commission to Baptize with water but into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost as you may read Mat. 28. Though Iohn Gosnel be so blind who is one of your chief Teachers in the first page of his book saith it is with water and saith it is not the Baptisme of the spirit but if you will believe John Gosnel rather then the Scriptures which you say is your rule Let it be upon your own heads for ever Secondly I shall prove they did Baptize with Water by permission and not by commission if you can either believe Paul or the Scriptures 1 Cor. 1.14 I thank God I baptized none of you but Crispus and Gaius and I Baptized also the house of Stephanus and I know not whether I baptized any other and this he saith is the reason and ground vers 17. for Christ sent me not to Baptize but to preach the Gospel and I say he did this and many other things by permission as you may read Acts 16.3 where he circumcised Timothy that he might gain and bring some to the true circumcision and one Baptisme Acts 21.24 Where Paul shaved his head and all this was by permission and not by command And I leave it upon you to prove that he acted wickedly therein and so you may see that those things which you are making your foundation and setting up above the Name of the Lord could be done or left undone by them who were guided by the spirit of the Lord and all was to gain some unto the Lord and bring them into the one Baptism which is by one spirit into the Name of the Lord 1 Cor. 12 yet I do not deny water Baptism nor John who had a commission to Baptize with water in their time and in their place for I do believe and know it was a ●ommand of God and they that rejected it rejected the counsel of God in not being baptized with water of John But John saith of himself I indeed Baptize you with water unto repentance I must decrease and he must encrease who baptizeth with the Holy Ghost and fire and you do not read in all the Scriptures that John was sent into all nations but he came preaching the doctrine of Baptisme and repentance in the Wildernesse of Iudea and to the people of Israel but he who was to encrease was found by Iohns Disciples then they left John and followed Jesus and said they had found him whom Moses and the Prophets wrote of Jesus of Nazereth the Son of Ioseph Iohn 1.37.41.45 And herein did the friend of the Bride-groom rejoyce even when he heard of the encrease of the Bridegroom But Christ Mat. 28.18 came and spake unto his Disciples saying all power is given unto me in Heaven and in earth Go ye therefore and teach all Nations Baptising them in
until the perfect day Hosea 6.3 Then shall we know the Lord whose goings forth is prepered as the morning therefore none despise the day of small things nor none reject the weakness of God but come tot his help against the Mighty nor reject the seed of Israel because it is in bondage and lieth in thick darkness and shineth in thick darkness but all sink down that ye may feel the Arm of the Lord and witness Israel to do valiantly and to smite down all and break and hammer down all which is exalted and hath been exalted above him and lick up Nations and lick up people as the Oxe licketh up grass and scatter Nation and scatter people and thresh the Mount of Esau and scatter the dust thereof and burn up the thorns and bryars thereof as the wind doth scatter the chaff and the fire devoureth the dry stubble but read within thus shall it be when the Lord ariseth in you to shake terribly the earth overturn the mountains by the roots and dry up the Sea by his Power and smite through the proud by his Power Jude 26.11 12. And so who waits love in patience upon the Lord God shall come to know what it is to be Baptized into the Name of the Lord God when they feel the Name of the Lord and see the Name of the Lord to be exalted in them above every name and to know the Mountain of the Lords House established a-top of every mountain Then shall come to pass that saying not till then which is written Isa 58.14 Then shalt thou delight thy self in the Lord and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy Father for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it then shall ye know the builder of the waste places and the raiser up of the foundation of many Generations the repairer of the breach the restorer of the pathes to dwell in then shall the beast and his many names the King and his many Nobles be all brought under and bound with fetters of iron as ye may read Psal 149.9 Let the Saints be joyful in Glory let them sing aloud upon their beds let the High praises of the Lord be in their mouths and a two edged sword in their hands to execute vengeance upon the Heathen and punishments upon the people to bind their Kings with chaines and their Nobles with fetters of Iron to execute upon them the Judgements written this honour have all the Saints Praise ye the Lord Mark read and understand not shall have as you turn it hereafter but this honour have all the Saints who were in all ages bound fettered themselves by the wicked Rulers of the earth But before you can see or believe these things that eye which ye now see with must be blinded and the eye which the god of the world hath blinded must be opened then he that speaks not of himself but of the Father nor receives honour of man but of the Father then and not till then will his Words be plain unto you and not parables But all ye that are speaking of yourselves know neither the Son nor the Father ye that can pray when you will and preach when you will and when you will can be silent and all this is but in your own will and in your own time but ye have neither heard the voice of the Father at any time Jo. 5.37 nor seen his shape but are inwardly ravened from the Spirit of the Father in whose hands your time should be rather then in an hour-glass which ye think the Spirit of the Lord will be limitted unto for when that is run ye say the time is expired and this is contrary to the Apostles practice which spake as the Spirit gave them utterance which ye may read was until midnight Acts 2● 7 And thus the Scripture which you say is your Rule to walk by beareth witness against you that ye walk contrary to it And yet so blind are ye that are Condemning us as Apostates which are led by the Spirit of the Lord and not contrary to the Scriptures and will not see that ye your selves are led neither by Letter nor Spirit But in your thoughts and imaginations ye are and ye see with the beasts eyes which are many and so are in the many minds and many heads and divided into the many bodies being led by the many eyes of the beast and with his many horns are thrusting and kicking one against another but know not the body nor discern not the body of Christ which is but one neither know the one eye which is the Spirit of truth to be your guider leader into all truth But one is crying I am of this mind and another I am of this and ye being many are of many minds and see with the beasts eyes which are many and all about the meaning of some one particular Scripture but are all gone from the Spirit of the Lord which gave forth the Scriptures and did speak as it meant which Spirit is but one in all his Children and all that are led by it are led into oneness and they are of one heart and one Soul as they that were guided by this one spirit in all ages was what ever you may imagine who are far from knowing such a state but one of you is crying I am for general Redemption and another I am for particular Election one is for eating of blood and another is against it some for washing of feet and others own it not one for laying on of hands and another against it and some that have preached it up as an Ordinance of Christ as William Allen and Thomas Lamb and without it said they could not admit any into the body of Christ and now themselves are gone from that also and look upon it as an indifferent thing and some of them are so blind that they say they cannot call any Brother until they have been Baptized in the water though it be but an hour before they are Baptized and yet a moneth before that when they have Examined them about their Faith and have judged them believers and I say that all are the Sons of God by Faith and therefore read Gal. ● 26 And consider what an Idol you have made of carnal water that cannot have fellowship with the Sons of God until they fall down to worship the Idol which ye in your Imaginations have set up for which ye have neither the Spirit nor the Letter of the Scriptures to own you in Some of you say that Christ shall come and reign among you a thousand years hereafter but that ye say ye know not when it shall be and many of you are for a Supper before that which ye call the Lords Supper and many of you deny both these thus are yow Babels builders scattered and confounded among your selves in your Imaginations
Wildernesse shall waters break out and streams in the desert and the ransomed of the Lord shall return and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads they shall obtain joy and gladness and sorrow and sighing shall flee away and then shall the parable be opened and plainnesse to you when you have found the key of David unto whom the parable is not I say when you have found the Immanuel which Moses and the Prophets writ of then shall you leave your figures your shadowes and types when you witnesse the Prophet raised up in you who is the life and substance and the everlasting day and the Lord of the Sabbaoth then shall you leave your images and cast away your Idols and leave off your idolatry and follow the Lamb where-ever he goeth and then shall you know that Scripture which ye have been so much in your imaginations about to know the meaning of Zach. 10 11 12. and then shall you see Jerusalem searched with candles and the inhabitants of Judah with torches and the hidden things of Esan brought to light and the seed of Jacob which hath bowed to Esaus seed shall bow no longer but until he be past and then shall Babylon the great the tumultuous city and golden city and city of confusion be broken down and that in which the blood of the innocent hath been found and the blood of the Martyrs of Jesus and the blood of the souls of them that lies slain under the Altar crying how long thou holy and just God shall all be required at her hands and come into remembrance with the Lord God and he that hath slain with the sword shall be killed with the sword and he that hath led into captivity and here is the mind that hath wisdom and here is the patience of the Saints and Babylon the great is fallen is fallen and then shall ye know Jerusalem and the new city even new Jerusalem become a peaceable habitation and then shall ye be gathered into general assembly and shall come to the spirit of just men made perfect and unto Mount Zion and unto the city of the living God the Heavenly Jerusalem and to an innumerable company of Angels and general assembly and Church of the first-born as Paul was Heb. 12 22 24 and unto God the judge of all and to Jesus the Reconciler and Mediator of the new Covenant and to the blood of sprinkling which speaketh better things then that of Abes and then shall your water even your foundation be shaken and nothing shall stand with you but the Rock of Ages which cannot be moved vers 27 and in the presence and power of the Lord God I warn you all put not this day a far off which is the joyful day and year of Jubile to his people and the day of Zions deliverance to his chosen which have overcome by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of his Testimony and patience which they do keep and thereby have made an enterance into the Kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Rev. 1.9 and are become companions in tribulation and in the Kingdom and patience of Jesus and are come from far and knows our mansions in our Fathers house and know the rest which remains for the people of God and are gathered into one sheep-fold and witnesse the Lord our shepherd and we see his shape and hear his voice and follow him who is invisible eternal and unchangeable and abides a Priest for ever and a shelter and a hiding place for ever and with Abraham Isaac and Jacob do we sit in our Fathers Kingdom and our place of defence is the munition of Rocks and our bread is sure and water is given and the Lord is become our King and law-giver and we rain with him upon earth and he hath made us Kings and Priests to ●od the Father and we sit with him in Heavenly places in Christ Jesus even him who rules the heathen with a rod of iron and it is he who doth all our workes in us and for us and slayes our enemies and breaks our enemies like a potters vessel and the sharp two edged sword and the new threshing instrument which hath teeth we know wherewith he hath threshed our mountains and laid them waste without Inhabitants and is now threshing your mountains and is breaking down and scattering you and he is ungirding your loines which are girding your selves and have made to your selves likenesses but have lost the spirit of truth and ye have joyned your selves to the Heathen and have eat the sacrifice of the dead and have learned their works and ye are like Ephraim feeding upon the wind and that which withers and dies of it self and in this woful and lamentable state are ye all who are not lead guided and acted by the light and so your prayers are as if ye slew a man and all your sacrifices is as the blessing of an Idol or offering of Swines flesh for you have chosen your own wayes and are gone from the way of the Lord and light of the Lord and ye have set up the idol in your hearts and ye live in that and delight in that and are led by that which my soul abhors saith the Lord and ye have set up the letter for your rule in stead of the new creature and life and ye have set up the Babel which is ink and paper to be your judge and tryer of the anointing and with that ye condemn the Innocent and judge him unto whom all judgement is committed as the blind Jewes who were painred with a profession as you are but were inwardly ravened and gone from the anointing in them which was and for ever shall be the Saints tryer and judge of the spirits which lead out into the World and he is the same to his children as ever he was and his sons pray and preach and are led by his spirit as ever they were though ye cannot believe these which are apostatized from the Apostles doctrine and have set up carnal created visible things and have set up water in stead of the Name of the Lord and the letter in stead of the life of the Lord and ye have put the letter and your meaning thereof and your private interpretations which ye have added to be the rule the tryer and the leader of the Saints and the law and the Testimony and the judger of Spirits and all these have ye set up above Christ who is the spiritual man who judgeth all things and ought to be your judge in all things and to whom all power and judgement is given and committed in Heaven and earth and he himself is judged of no man and so the beam is in your eye and the mote in your eye end ye being hipt from the pure of God and with that which hath been exalted above all that is called God are ye judging and condemning the Son of God unto whom all judgement