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A84808 Saul's errand to Damascus: with his packet of letters from the high-priests, against the disciples of the Lord. Or, A faithful transcript of a petition contrived by some persons in Lancanshire, who call themselves ministers of the gospel, breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable & godly people there, by them nick-named Quakers. Together with the defence of the persons thereby traduced, against the slanderous and false suggestions of that petition, and other untruths charged upon them. Published to no other end, but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ, who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages. Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Lawson, John, of Lancaster. 1653 (1653) Wing F1894; Thomason E689_17; ESTC R206937 30,408 48

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Heaven or Hell but through death the wicked shall be turned into hell and all them that forget God there to be tormented there is a hell thou shalt finde it Heaven is Gods Throne and heavenly notions within shall be shaken for God is pure and nothing that is unclean shall stand before him and he hath said he will dwell in man Qu. Whether the ministration of the Ministery by man is to continue till the end or not Answ The ministration of the world is the Ministery of man and doth not lead to an end but keeps in time and that must have an end for it is not of God The Ministery of God is to draw people up to himself but that is not of man nor by man nor according to man for Paul was made a Minister according to the will of God who had not received it of man neither was it taught him of man and was a Minister of the Spirit but the Ministers of the world receive their learning at Oxford and Cambridge and are taught of men and speak a divination of their own brain which is conjuring and bewitch the people with those things which are carnal as to sprinkle Infants and tell them of a Sacrament which there is no Scripture for and saying they are the Ministers of Christ and act those things which he forbids as to have the chiefest place in the Assemblies the uppermost room at feasts the greetings in markets and to be called of men Masters and with pretence make long prayers which Christ forbids and profess and say they are the Ministers of Christ wherein they shew themselves to be Antichrists And see if thou do not uphold these Antichrists and say they are the Ministers of Christ Qu. Whether the written Word I mean the Scriptures be the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes or not Answ The written Word is not the power of God nor the Scriptures are not the salvation but he that doth believe hath the life of them Who is born of God shall never die as it is written he that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God hath the witness in himself that God is the cause of mans salvation and not the Scripture nor the Letter James Nayler's Answer and Declaration touching some things charged upon him by the men aforesaid HAving heard of divers untruths cast upon me by some of the Priests in their high places though I stand only to the Lord in respect of my self yet lest any that love the truth should be led on by these false reports to speak evil of these things they know not I shall lay open the truth as it is revealed in me touching those things whereof I have been falsly accused Jude 1● First Concerning Jesus Christ That he is the eternal Word of God Revel 19.13 1 Joh. 1.2 3 4 5. Joh. 1.14 by whom all things were made and are upholden which were before all time but manifested to the world in time for the recovery of lost man Which Word became flesh and dwelt amongst the Saints who is the same yesterday to day and for ever who did and doth dwell in the Saints who suffered and rose again and ascended into heaven and is set at the right hand of God Eph. 1.20 to whom all power is given in heaven and in earth who filleth all places is the light of the world but known to none but to those that receive and follow him Joh. 8.12 and those he leads up to God out of all the Wayes Works and Worships of the world by his pure light in them 2 Thes 2.8 whereby he reveals the man of sin and by his power casts him out and so prepares the bodies of the Saints a fit Temple for the pure God to dwel in with whom dwels no unclean thing and thus he reconciles God and man and the image of God 1 Cor. 3.16 17. which is in purity and holiness is renewed and the image of Satan which is all sin and uncleanness is defaced and none can witness Redemption 2 Cor. 5.18 19. Col. 3.10 further then Christ is thus revealed in them to set them free from sin which Christ I witness to be revealed in me in measure Gal. 1.16 2 Cor. 13.5 Colos 1.27 2. 2 Pet. 1.20 21. Concerning the Scriptures That they are a true Declaration of that Word which was in them that spoke them forth and are of no private interpretation but were given forth to be read and fulfilled in the Saints Rev. 22.18 as they were given forth by the Holy Ghost without adding or diminishing and were not given forth for men to make a Trade on to get mony by but as they are they are profitable for Doctrine 2 Tim 3.16 17. for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in righteonsness that the man of God may be perfect thorowly furnished unto every good work But they who trade in the Letter and are ignorant of the Mystery deny all perfection and none can rightly understand the Scriptures but they who read them with the same Spirit that gave them forth 1 Cor. 2.14 15. for the natural man understands not the things of God for they are spiritually discerned 3. Concerning Baptism The true Baptism is that of the Spirit with the Holy Ghost and with fire Baptized by one Spirit into one Body not the washing away the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ Acts 1.5 without which no other Baptism can save us Gal. 3.27 they being but figures or shadows but this Baptism of Christ is the substance whereby we are Baptized into his death and those that are baptized into Christ have put on Christ 4. Concerning the Lords Supper Matth. 26.26 28. Joh. 6.51 53 54 55 56. 1 Cor. 11.24 25. Col. 2.10 The true Supper of the Lord is the Spiritual eating and drinking of the flesh and blood of Christ Spiritually which the Spiritual man only eateth and is thereby nourished up unto eternal life without which eating there can be no life in the creature profess what you will And all who eat of this bread and drink of this cup have real communion in Christ the head and also one with another as members and are of one heart and one minde a compleat body in Christ Now the world who take only the outward signes 1 Cor. 11.27 28 29. and are not brought in discerning of the Lords body eat and drink damnation to themselves and become guilty of the body and blood of Christ and calls this a Communion but lives in envy strife and debate fighting and going to Law one with another for earthly things 5. Concerning the Resurrection Joh. 5.29 That all shall arise to give an account and receive at the last day according to their works 1 Cor. 15.38 1 Cor. 15.42 43 44. whether good or evil
risen from the dead whereof the Apostles were witnesses Here thou shewest thy self to be a witness against the living and shewest thy self to be in the death and no Minister of Christ for the Ministers of Christ justified them which were raised from the dead Eph. 2.1 Even when we were dead in trespasses and sins hath he quickned us together with Christ and hath raised us together and hath made us to sit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus Rom. 6.10 11. Likewise reckon you also your selves to be dead indeed unto sin but alive unto God through Jesus Christ for in that he died he died once unto sin in that he lives he lives unto God Here thou shewest thy self to be no Minister of Jesus Christ He that believeth hath passed from death to life because be loveth his brethren here thou shewest thou dost not believe but art in the death and art in envy so thou shewest forth thy self to be Cain and hatest thy brethren We know that we are translated from death unto life because we love our brethren he that loveth not his brother abideth in the death and there thou art Whosoever hateth his brother is a man-slayer and you know that no man-slayer hath eternal life abiding in him 1 Joh. 3. And this is thy condition and here thou art an Antichrist in the world envying those who are raised from the dead and thou seekest to bring them to the death whom God hath raised from the death Thou hast not seen thy self to be the prodigal yet the Scripture saith Luk. 15.24 This my son was dead and is alive againe but thou art without God in the world Object 2. That the day of judgement was past Answ Mat. 12.20 Christ speaks The bruised reed he will not break the smoaking Flax he will not quench till he bring forth judgement into victory Here thou shewest thy self to be ignorant of the Scripture but onely as a hear-sayer thou speakest and the outside of the Letter and not Christ and canst not witness him who brings forth judgement into victory but standest as a witness against them who witness the Scriptures fulfilled in them and Christ bringing forth judgement into victory and here thou shewest thy self to be unacquainted with Christ and thy nakedness and ignorance thou makest appear Object 3. That he had been in Hell and is now in Heaven Answ Here thou shewest thy self to be a witness against the holy men of God Jonah saith Out of the belly of hell cryed I Jon. 2. and thou heardest my voice and the Lord delivered him out of hell and might not he confess it thou hypocrite For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption Psa 16.10 Thou hast delivered my soul out of death bless the Lord my soul and all that is within me bless his holy name Psa 103.1.2 How darest thou profess the Scriptures and the holy men of Gods-conditions which were raised and brought out of death and if any witness the holy men of Gods condition thou persecutest them O thou blind hypocrite here thou shewest thou never sawest hells mouth yet therefore thou never cryedst in hell yet Object 4. That he was come to the infinite company of the first-born and the Spirits of just men made perfect Answ Paul said who was a Minister of God But ye are come to Mount Sion Heb. 12.22 and unto the City of the living God the heavenly Jerusalem and to an innummerable company of Angels to the general Assembly and Church of the first-born which are written in heaven unto God the judge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect Paul was A Minister of Jesus Christ by the will of God who incouraged the Saints who were brought hither but thou now persecutest them and art a witness against them that confess they are brought hither here thou shewest thou hast the spirit of errour openly and art no Minister of God no not of the Letter but art against the Letter as it speakes persecuting them that have the life of it Object 5. That he had heard the last Trumpet sound and seen the new Jerusalem Answ Here thou shewest forth thy spite and venome If John was here which saw the great City and holy Ierusalem descend out of heaven from good John said I saw the holy City New Ierusalem come down from God out of heaven thou wouldst be a witness against him thou shewest thyself in the generation that was ever persecutors slanderers opposers of the power of truth Where the same spirit is that was in Iohn he sees these things now as he did then but where the same spirit is not which thou shewest thou hast not but a contrary spirit that persecutes them which do see those things but is as a dog to bite and devour Iohn saw the last trumpet sound which shews thou art not come to the first Blow the trumpet in Slon Joel 2.1 sound an alarm in my holy mountain let all the inhabitants of the earth tremble Here be thou a witness against thy self that thou art a witness against the truth and in the generation of them that ever slew the righteous seed Obj. 6. That John Lawson said he had seen God face to face Answ Here thou shewest thy self to be a witness against them that know God and makest thy self manifest to be a heathen for all are heathens that do not know God and no man knoweth God saving he that is born of God and who are born of God are owners of the truth and not against it but against the deceit Jacob said I have seen God face to face Gen. 32. Isa 6.5 Job 42.5 Isaiah said Mine eyes have seen the King the Lord of hosts Job said I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear but now mine eyes have seen thee Exo. 33.11 And God spake to Moses face to face Here you may take your oaths and swear against Jacob against Isaiah against Job and against Moses Where the same Spirit is made manifest and who are born of God know God face to face as they did but they who are born of the flesh persecute them who are born of the Spirit and there you shew your selves to be taking oaths and swearing against them that know God seeking to bring them to prison or bondage for you never read in all the Scriptures that the Prophets or the Apostles took their oaths against any which confessed they had seen God or put up a Petition to the Magistrates or witnessed it with oathes against any of them the Ministers of God said Swear not at all And here you shew your selves to be no Ministers or friends of God but without God for the Ministers of God are to bring people to know God and to the Church in God and to the heavenly Jerusalem and to the innummerable company of Angels and minister to that which is in prison and in death but if any come to witness these things fulfilled you are witnesses against them with Oaths and would bring the bodies of such into prison where the seed of God is raised out of prison within shewing your selves to be Antichrists persecuters of the power of truth and beasts which shall make war against the Saints and against the Lambe but the Lamb shall get the victory Job cryed when the Lord hid his face and David cried when the Lord hid his face and said O Lord I will seek thy face And here you shew you neither know his face nor have seen it but are persecuters of them who know it and seek it Praises praises be to the Lord for ever FINIS Errata Page 14. l. 18. after the word death put a p. 16. l. 2. for were read was p. 18. l. 25. for the second word Ministery r. Ministers p. 20. l. 11. before the word saying r. one p. 21. l. 31. for Priests r. people p. 24. l. 17. after the word That r. some say p. 25. l. 1. after proved r. by l. 2. after the word him r. in him p. 28. l. 4. r. save only what p. 29. l. 5. r. of the Law as a Transgressor l. 9. r. judged