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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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first_o author_n
evident_a that_o all_o the_o instance_n produce_v leave_v it_o uncertain_a whether_o st._n ambrose_n do_v intend_v a_o proper_a change_n of_o substance_n or_o only_o a_o change_n of_o quality_n and_o virtue_n second_o have_v ambrose_n only_o give_v instance_n of_o a_o substantial_a change_n it_o will_v not_o hence_o have_v follow_v that_o he_o do_v intend_v to_o prove_v the_o sacramental_a symbol_n be_v so_o change_v but_o only_o a_o majori_fw-la to_o prove_v that_o he_o who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o such_o substantial_a mutation_n can_v certain_o effect_v that_o change_n which_o be_v but_o accidental_a thus_o from_o the_o substantial_a conversion_n of_o water_n into_o wine_n he_o prove_v 19_o prove_v credendum_fw-la jam_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la mortalem_fw-la hominem_fw-la in_o immortalitatem_fw-la posse_fw-la converti_fw-la quando_fw-la vilis_fw-la substantia_fw-la in_o pretiosam_fw-la conversa_fw-la est_fw-la substantiam_fw-la serm._n 19_o we_o ought_v to_o think_v that_o god_n can_v change_v our_o mortal_a into_o a_o glorious_a and_o immortal_a body_n which_o change_n be_v only_o accidental_a and_o from_o initiantur_fw-la from_o si_fw-mi ergo_fw-la inquit_fw-la superveniens_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n in_fw-la virginem_fw-la conceptionem_fw-la operatus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o generationis_fw-la munus_fw-la implevit_fw-la non_fw-la utique_fw-la dubitandum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la superveniens_fw-la in_o fontem_fw-la vel_fw-la super_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la baptismum_fw-la consequitur_fw-la veritatem_fw-la regeneratiovis_fw-la cooperetur_fw-la cap._n 9_o the_o his_o qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la the_o supernatural_a production_n of_o our_o lord_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n he_o in_o this_o very_a chapter_n prove_v we_o must_v not_o doubt_v but_o the_o same_o spirit_n can_v regenerate_v the_o baptise_a person_n so_o that_o we_o see_v it_o be_v familiar_a with_o he_o to_o prove_v the_o possibility_n of_o accidental_a change_n by_o example_n of_o a_o change_n substantial_a ob._n st._n ambrose_n say_v 23._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o act._n hom._n 23._o the_o symbol_n be_v not_o what_o nature_n form_v they_o but_o what_o the_o benediction_n consecrate_v they_o answ_n true_o because_o they_o be_v not_o only_o so_o but_o by_o this_o more_o excellent_a and_o spiritual_a change_n obtain_v a_o name_n which_o be_v more_o excellent_a denomination_n be_v take_v from_o the_o better_o thus_o chrysostom_n affirm_v that_o such_o be_v the_o power_n of_o baptism_n that_o it_o do_v not_o suffer_v man_n to_o be_v still_o men._n and_o leo_n 14._o leo_n de_fw-fr pass_n dom._n ser._n 14._o that_o the_o baptise_a person_n be_v not_o the_o same-before_a and_o after_o baptism_n and_o epiphanius_n that_o when_o we_o be_v endow_v with_o temperance_n the_o flesh_n it_o no_o more_o flesh_n 66._o flesh_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d haeres_fw-la 66._o whence_o yet_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o argue_v that_o either_o baptism_n or_o temperance_n offential_o change_v either_o the_o flesh_n or_o nature_n of_o a_o christian_n ob._n he_o affirm_v further_a that_o by_o this_o benediction_n nature_n be_v change_v answ_n true_o but_o then_o that_o word_n not_o only_o in_o the_o author_n before_o mention_v but_o in_o st._n 2._o st._n de_fw-fr virg._n l._n 2._o haxamer_n l._n 3._o c._n 2._o ambrose_n do_v very_o often_o signisie_n only_o a_o change_n of_o quality_n and_o virtue_n for_o he_o affirm_v that_o thecla_n change_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o beast_n that_o be_v design_v to_o devour_v she_o and_o that_o the_o beast_n themselves_o have_v change_v their_o nature_n i.e._n their_o fierceness_n and_o rapacity_n and_o in_o this_o very_a place_n he_o say_v that_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o water_n of_o the_o river_n jordan_n be_v clear_o change_v because_o that_o it_o be_v drive_v back_o we_o must_v be_v tell_v that_o chrysostom_n do_v say_v 303._o t._n g._n p._n 303._o that_o thing_n that_o lie_v before_o we_o be_v not_o the_o work_n of_o humane_a power_n we_o only_o hold_v the_o the_o place_n of_o minister_n but_o he_o that_o sanctifi_v change_v they_o be_v christ_n but_o then_o we_o must_v not_o know_v that_o in_o this_o very_a homily_n the_o consecrate_a element_n be_v style_v the_o symbol_n of_o christ_n body_n 36_o in_o mat._n hom._n 82._o p._n 510._o l._n 36_o and_o that_o dispute_v against_o marcian_n and_o valentinian_n who_o hold_v christ_n have_v no_o real_a body_n he_o confute_v and_o stop_v their_o mouth_n by_o say_v that_o in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n we_o have_v the_o symbol_n of_o that_o body_n whereas_o can_v he_o have_v true_o say_v we_o have_v their_o real_a flesh_n and_o blood_n he_o have_v then_o speak_v what_o will_v have_v more_o effectual_o confute_v their_o absurd_a position_n 2._o we_o must_v not_o know_v that_o in_o that_o very_a place_n he_o confute_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o encratitae_n 15._o p._n 511._o l._n 10_o 15._o by_o show_v that_o when_o our_o lord_n deliver_v the_o mystery_n he_o deliver_v the_o wine_n and_o that_o after_o his_o resurrection_n he_o drink_v wine_n to_o verify_v this_o say_n i_o will_v no_o more_o drink_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n till_o i_o drink_v it_o new_a with_o you_o in_o my_o father_n kingdom_n nor_o three_o that_o christ_n in_o those_o holy_a mystery_n do_v give_v himself_o unto_o the_o faithful_a but_o to_o none_o other_o 28._o p._n 514._o l._n 28._o but_o have_v we_o no_o such_o indication_n of_o the_o mind_n of_o chrysostom_n the_o word_n themselves_o be_v very_o insignificative_a and_o unconclude_a for_o that_o which_o chrysostom_n affirm_v of_o the_o eucharist_n that_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o the_o work_n of_o humane_a power_n we_o protestant_n acknowledge_v as_o know_v that_o it_o be_v no_o work_n of_o humane_a power_n to_o cause_v the_o virtue_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n to_o attend_v these_o mystery_n and_o to_o make_v that_o to_o be_v food_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o natural_o can_v only_o feed_v the_o body_n he_o that_o thus_o sanctify_v and_o change_v these_o material_a symbol_n must_v be_v god_n and_o hence_o st._n chrysostom_n inform_v we_o the_o case_n be_v just_a the_o same_o in_o baptism_n that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o angel_n who_o there_o move_v the_o water_n 8._o hom._n 35._o in_o joh_n in_o 1_o ad_fw-la cor._n hom._n 8._o but_o that_o it_o be_v lord_n of_o angel_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o work_v all_o thing_n there_o that_o man_n do_v nothing_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o power_n of_o god_n that_o work_v all_o thing_n and_o whereas_o he_o add_v that_o it_o be_v he_o who_o sanctify_v these_o thing_n and_o change_v they_o st._n cyril_n do_v inform_v we_o 5._o catech._n mystag_n 5._o that_o whatsoever_o the_o holy_a spirit_n touch_v be_v sanctify_v and_o change_v st._n 545._o st._n paedag._n l._n 3._o c_o 2._o in_o cant._n hom_o 4._o in_o gen._n hom._n 41._o with_fw-mi albert_n the_o sacr_n euch._n l._n 2._o p._n 545._o clemens_n that_o the_o devil_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n transmute_v woman_n into_o whore_n nyssenus_n that_o regeneration_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n do_v change_v we_o into_o the_o son_n of_o light_n and_o of_o the_o day_n and_o chrysostom_n himself_o inform_v we_o that_o to_o make_v the_o barren_a womb_n to_o bear_v be_v a_o example_n of_o this_o transmutation_n such_o therefore_o we_o may_v rational_o conceive_v that_o change_n to_o be_v of_o which_o st._n chrysostom_n here_o speak_v gaudentius_n must_v tell_v we_o 306._o t._n g._n p._n 306._o that_o the_o maker_n and_o lord_n of_o nature_n who_o produce_v bread_n out_o of_o the_o earth_n do_v again_o of_o bread_n because_o he_o can_v and_o have_v promise_v to_o do_v it_o make_v his_o own_o body_n and_o he_o who_o make_v water_n of_o wine_n make_v of_o wine_n his_o own_o blood_n but_o then_o we_o must_v not_o know_v 2._o tract_n in_o ex._n 2._o that_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o assert_n that_o when_o our_o saviour_n say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n he_o give_v to_o his_o disciple_n consecrate_a bread_n and_o wine_n or_o that_o because_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o gospel_n say_v i_o be_o the_o true_a vine_n he_o do_v sufficient_o declare_v that_o all_o the_o wine_n he_o offer_v in_o the_o figure_n of_o his_o passion_n be_v his_o blood_n or_o that_o we_o eat_v his_o flesh_n when_o we_o receive_v his_o doctrine_n which_o do_v sufficient_o confute_v the_o roman_a doctrine_n and_o show_v the_o change_n of_o which_o gaudentius_n speak_v to_o be_v spiritual_a and_o mystical_a for_o if_o the_o consecrate_a sign_n be_v bread_n and_o wine_n they_o be_v not_o proper_o christ_n body_n if_o what_o be_v offer_v be_v a_o figure_n of_o his_o passion_n it_o be_v not_o the_o truth_n for_o as_o gandentius_n there_o tell_v we_o figura_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la veritas_fw-la sed_fw-la imitatio_fw-la veritatis_fw-la i.e._n a_o figure_n be_v the_o imitation_n of_o the_o truth_n but_o
declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o depart_a christian_n 3._o what_o a_o ridiculous_a office_n do_v they_o impose_v upon_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n by_o this_o fond_a opinion_n for_o when_o they_o pray_v to_o apollonia_n for_o the_o toothache_n god_n must_v not_o only_o tell_v she_o that_o such_o a_o person_n supplicate_v but_o also_o that_o his_o tooth_n do_v ache_v and_o therefore_o he_o particular_o implore_v her_o assistance_n when_o they_o address_v themselves_o to_o any_o saint_n in_o this_o odd_a language_n 586._o language_n cum_fw-la ad_fw-la imaginem_fw-la sancti_fw-la alicujus_fw-la quis_fw-la dominicam_fw-la orationem_fw-la pronuntiat_fw-la ita_fw-la tum_fw-la sentiat_fw-la se_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la petere_fw-la ut_fw-la secum_fw-la oret_fw-la sibique_fw-la postulet_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la dominicae_fw-la orationis_fw-la formulâ_fw-la continentur_fw-la catech._n rom._n part_n 4_o c._n 6._o s_o 4._o p._n 586._o our_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n which_o they_o familiar_o do_v as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o roman_a catechism_n god_n must_v inform_v this_o saint_n both_o of_o the_o person_n pray_v and_o his_o prayer_n and_o his_o intention_n by_o so_o do_v to_o oblige_v he_o to_o use_v those_o word_n in_o his_o behalf_n 2._o behalf_n o_o praeco_fw-la accelera_fw-la piae_fw-la matri●_n praecare_fw-la viscera_fw-la propr_fw-la fest_n f._n 2._o when_o they_o desire_v any_o saint_n or_o angel_n to_o go_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n this_o saint_n must_v be_v inform_v first_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o prayer_n then_o must_v he_o post_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o she_o must_v go_v unto_o her_o son_n and_o he_o unto_o his_o father_n to_o present_v that_o request_n which_o he_o reveal_v and_o be_v not_o these_o man_n very_o bold_a with_o god_n to_o put_v such_o office_n upon_o he_o and_o make_v he_o nuntio_n to_o all_o his_o creature_n 2._o the_o saint_n depart_v do_v not_o know_v the_o heart_n and_o the_o petition_n of_o their_o supplicant_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o beatific_a vision_n this_o vain_a presumption_n depend_v on_o this_o that_o see_v god_n they_o must_v in_o he_o behold_v those_o thing_n which_o in_o idea_n be_v contain_v in_o he_o or_o which_o his_o knowledge_n do_v perceive_v and_o so_o the_o refutation_n of_o this_o dream_n will_v be_v sufficient_a confutation_n of_o it_o and_o 1._o that_o which_o the_o holy_a spirit_n only_o know_v these_o bless_a spirit_n do_v not_o know_v but_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n i.e._n his_o purpose_n and_o counsel_n etc._n etc._n know_v no_o man_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 1_o cor._n 2.11_o ergo._n if_o then_o the_o bless_a spirit_n notwithstanding_o the_o beatific_a vision_n do_v not_o see_v the_o mind_n and_o counsel_n of_o god_n without_o his_o revelation_n why_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o by_o behold_v of_o god_n they_o also_o do_v behold_v the_o supplication_n we_o put_v up_o unto_o they_o 4._o de_fw-fr vita_fw-la contemp._n l._n 5._o c._n 4._o those_o word_n of_o prosper_n that_o nothing_o be_v so_o secret_a as_o that_o the_o knowledge_n of_o it_o shall_v be_v deny_v to_o the_o perfect_o bless_v and_o that_o of_o gregory_n 13._o l._n 12._o moral_a c._n 13._o that_o they_o who_o see_v that_o god_n who_o see_v all_o thing_n must_v themselves_o see_v all_o thing_n i_o say_v those_o word_n do_v as_o much_o prove_v that_o bless_a spirit_n do_v know_v the_o secret_n of_o god_n counsel_n as_o that_o they_o see_v the_o supplication_n we_o put_v up_o unto_o they_o to_o strengthen_v and_o confirm_v this_o argument_n let_v we_o consider_v 1._o that_o the_o father_n do_v from_o this_o place_n conclude_v the_o holy_a spirit_n to_o be_v god_n because_o he_o be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n which_o argument_n will_v be_v invalid_a if_o this_o can_v true_o be_v assert_v of_o the_o bless_a spirit_n 2._o 2.12_o 1_o cor._n 2.12_o observe_v that_o the_o apostle_n argue_v thus_o that_o as_o no_o man_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n beside_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n within_o he_o so_o none_o can_v know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n now_o if_o the_o bless_a spirit_n do_v know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n the_o argument_n will_v be_v invalid_a for_o the_o romanist_n may_v give_v the_o baffle_n to_o st._n paul_n and_o tell_v he_o that_o as_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n be_v know_v not_o only_o to_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n but_o also_o to_o miriads_o of_o bless_a saint_n and_o angel_n so_o may_v the_o secret_n of_o god_n be_v know_v not_o only_o to_o the_o holy_a spirit_n but_o to_o many_o other_o 2._o the_o scripture_n do_v assure_v we_o that_o those_o bless_a angel_n which_o always_o do_v behold_v the_o face_n of_o god_n have_v not_o the_o knowledge_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v reveal_v to_o we_o by_o the_o gospel_n and_o that_o the_o curious_a wisdom_n which_o contrive_v that_o dispensation_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o church_n 1.12_o eph._n 3.10_o 1_o pet._n 1.12_o and_o therefore_o peter_n represent_v they_o as_o stoop_v down_o to_o view_v this_o new_a discovery_n which_o be_v a_o signal_n indication_n of_o the_o falsehood_n of_o this_o fond_a conceit_n that_o bless_a spirit_n see_v he_o who_o know_v all_o thing_n must_v have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o those_o thing_n he_o see_v and_o therefore_o of_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o he_o they_o be_v see_v and_o know_v to_o god_n 3_o that_o we_o may_v pray_v in_o faith_n we_o must_v be_v certain_a that_o the_o bless_a spirit_n be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n for_o he_o that_o do_v command_v we_o to_o pray_v in_o faith_n and_o without_o doubt_v can_v be_v want_v to_o give_v we_o certain_a motive_n of_o this_o faith_n and_o therefore_o god_n who_o never_o be_v deficient_a in_o what_o be_v 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our_o petition_n be_v reveal_v to_o the_o saint_n why_o do_v they_o not_o produce_v it_o why_o do_v t._n g._n confess_v that_o austin_n and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v uncertain_a what_o to_o determine_v in_o this_o case_n why_o do_v the_o great_a part_n of_o roman_a catholic_n deny_a what_o they_o have_v certain_a revelation_n for_o 3._o where_o be_v this_o revelation_n to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n no_o they_o confess_v that_o this_o be_v whole_o silent_a in_o this_o matter_n and_o give_v we_o many_o reason_n why_o it_o be_v not_o mention_v in_o holy_a writ_n have_v we_o this_o revelation_n from_o tradition_n why_o then_o do_v the_o prevail_a part_n of_o roman_a catholic_n reject_v it_o sith_o than_o we_o have_v no_o certainty_n of_o what_o this_o practice_n do_v suppose_v either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a
converse_v with_o god_n 318._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bosil_n tom._n 1._o orat._n in_o jusiti_n martyr_n p._n 318._o prayer_n be_v a_o request_n of_o some_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v make_v by_o pious_a man_n to_o god_n say_v basil_n whence_o elsewhere_o he_o assert_n that_o prayer_n be_v not_o direct_v unto_o man_n but_o god_n 30._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d greg._n nyss_n de_fw-fr orat._n dom._n or_o 2._o p._n 724._o d._n chrysost_o in_o gen._n hom._n 30._o prayer_n be_v a_o conference_n with_o god_n say_v nyssen_n and_o a_o request_n of_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v offer_v with_o supplication_n unto_o god_n prayer_n be_v a_o colloquy_n with_o god_n and_o every_o one_o that_o pray_v discourse_v with_o god_n so_o st._n 139._o st._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n tom._n 4._o p._n 139._o chrysostome_n hence_o on_o that_o expression_n of_o st._n paul_n with_o all_o that_o call_v upon_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n he_o note_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o st._n paul_n do_v not_o say_v that_o call_v on_o this_o or_o that_o i.e._n of_o any_o thing_n but_o christ_n and_o on_o these_o word_n do_v all_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n he_o comment_v thus_o i.e._n do_v all_o thing_n pray_v unto_o he_o for_o help_v and_o before_o all_o thy_o business_n make_v thy_o supplication_n to_o he_o or_o he_o say_v thus_o say_v and_o do_v all_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o or_o according_a to_o god_n and_o introduce_v not_o angel_n but_o t._n g._n have_v some_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o saint_n and_o angel_n have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o heart_n and_o action_n viz._n it_o be_v say_v luke_n 15.7_o 419._o object_n t._n g._n p._n 419._o there_o shall_v be_v joy_n in_o heaven_n and_o v._o 10._o there_o shall_v be_v joy_n before_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n upon_o one_o sinner_n that_o do_v penance_n and_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n no_o doubt_n rejoice_v as_o much_o at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n as_o the_o angel_n do_v not_o only_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n 315._o answ_n white_a against_o fisher_n p._n 315._o but_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n luke_n 15.24_o 2_o cor._n 7.9_o likewise_o parent_n minister_n and_o friend_n rejoice_v etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n which_o rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n see_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n 1_o cor._n 2.11_o so_o likewise_o angel_n which_o be_v minister_a spirit_n hebr._n 1_o 14._o may_v understand_v by_o the_o sign_n and_o fruit_n of_o true_a repentance_n the_o conversion_n of_o divers_a sinner_n and_o consequent_o they_o may_v rejoice_v without_o intuitive_a knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n 2._o our_o saviour_n word_n luke_n 15.10_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o conclusion_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o must_v not_o be_v strain_v beyond_o the_o true_a scope_n but_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o sundry_a 168._o sundry_a anbr●s_n l._n 7._o in_o lucam_n hilar_n in_o matth._n 18_o isid●r_n lib._n alleg._n chrysol_n serm._n 168._o father_n and_o some_o learned_a locum_fw-la learned_a cojet_fw-fr &_o titus_n bostrensis_n in_o locum_fw-la papist_n the_o hundred_o sheep_n v._o 4._o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o elect_n consist_v of_o man_n and_o angel_n the_o ninety_o and_o nine_o sheep_n not_o lose_v be_v the_o angel_n persist_v in_o their_o prime_a integrity_n the_o stray_n sheep_n all_o mankind_n sin_v in_o adam_n to_o recover_v this_o lose_a sheep_n the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o good_a shepherd_n jo._n 10.11_o be_v incarnate_a and_o by_o the_o gracious_a work_n of_o redemption_n he_o lay_v the_o same_o on_o his_o shoulder_n now_o there_o be_v great_a joy_n in_o heaven_n before_o the_o celestial_a angel_n for_o this_o recovery_n and_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n so_o that_o no_o more_o can_v be_v infer_v from_o this_o parable_n but_o that_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o same_o the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o man_n redemption_n 3._o when_o it_o be_v say_v that_o there_o be_v joy_n in_o heaven_n we_o may_v expound_v it_o as_o dr._n hammond_n do_v not_o of_o the_o joy_n of_o angel_n but_o of_o god_n and_o have_v we_o no_o reason_n to_o confirm_v this_o sense_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o destroy_v the_o force_n of_o what_o t._n g._n do_v hence_o conclude_v from_o this_o citation_n that_o it_o may_v fair_o be_v expound_v in_o that_o sense_n which_o render_v it_o impertinent_a to_o his_o design_n but_o since_o it_o be_v not_o say_v to_o be_v the_o joy_n of_o angel_n but_o that_o joy_n which_o be_v express_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n before_o the_o holy_a angel_n this_o do_v sufficient_o demonstrate_v that_o it_o be_v the_o joy_n of_o he_o before_o who_o face_n they_o stand_v continual_o moreover_o it_o be_v confess_o god_fw-we who_o be_v compare_v to_o the_o shepherd_n and_o to_o the_o woman_n seek_v the_o lose_a groat_n and_o therefore_o the_o similitude_n require_v that_o the_o joy_n conceive_v when_o the_o lose_a sheep_n and_o groat_n be_v find_v shall_v be_v ascribe_v to_o he_o whereas_o our_o savour_n himself_o say_v ib._n object_n t._n g._n ib._n that_o the_o just_a in_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n in_o heaven_n matth._n 22.30_o the_o equality_n as_o to_o knowledge_n not_o depend_v upon_o the_o body_n it_o follow_v by_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n that_o our_o prayer_n and_o concern_v be_v know_v also_o to_o the_o saint_n now_o enjoy_v the_o same_o blissful_a vision_n with_o the_o angel_n christ_n do_v not_o only_o say_v answ_n answ_n that_o the_o spirit_n of_o just_a person_n shall_v be_v like_o the_o angel_n but_o he_o express_v wherein_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o to_o wit_n 1._o in_o freedom_n from_o secular_a action_n and_o passion_n 2._o inglorious_a adoption_n or_o real_a possession_n of_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n we_o can_v therefore_o hence_o infer_v a_o parity_n of_o quality_n and_o operation_n betwixt_o the_o angel_n and_o the_o spirit_n of_o just_a man_n but_o only_o a_o similitude_n of_o state_n and_o privilege_n as_o 117._o as_o verum_fw-la haec_fw-la authoritas_fw-la ut_fw-la ingemiè_fw-la fatear_fw-la solum_fw-la aequat_fw-la homines_fw-la angelis_n in_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la nullum_fw-la mutrimonti_fw-la usum_fw-la ha●ebunt_fw-la si●●t_fw-la nec_fw-la angeli_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la ibidem_fw-la facit_fw-la pare●_n quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la facialem_fw-la visionem_fw-la det._n alph._n the_o castr_n l._n 3._o c._n haer._n v._n beat._n v._o jansen_n harm_n evang._n c._n 117._o papist_n do_v themselves_o confess_v 2._o christ_n do_v not_o 61._o not_o in_o illa_fw-la requie_n positus_fw-la ceitè_fw-fr securus_fw-la expectas_fw-la judicii_fw-la diem_fw-la quando_fw-la reeipias_fw-la &_o co_fw-la ●us_o quande_fw-la immuteris_fw-la ut_fw-la angelo_fw-la aequaeris_fw-la aust_n in_o ps_n 36._o f_o 61._o say_v the_o spirit_n of_o just_a man_n be_v as_o the_o angel_n now_o but_o that_o at_o the_o resurrection_n they_o shall_v be_v so_o 380._o white_a p._n 380._o now_o i_o admire_v what_o papist_n can_v extort_v from_o hence_o for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a to_o wit_n just_a man_n at_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v live_v as_o angel_n remote_a from_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o worldly_a life_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n free_a from_o material_a and_o corporeal_a passion_n and_o equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o fruition_n of_o blessedness_n ergo_fw-la the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n which_o we_o make_v in_o this_o life_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n the_o smoke_n of_o the_o incense_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n ascend_v from_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o angel_n before_o god_n apoc_n 8.4_o ergo_fw-la ibid._n object_n ibid._n our_o prayer_n and_o action_n be_v not_o unknown_a to_o the_o angel_n 1._o this_o place_n of_o st._n john_n prove_v not_o 314._o answ_n white_a p._n 314._o either_o clear_o or_o obscure_o that_o holy_a angel_n hear_v the_o prayer_n or_o see_v the_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n for_o the_o angel_n mention_v be_v expound_v by_o the_o ancient_a expositor_n and_o by_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o not_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o nature_n but_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o office_n and_o by_o some_o of_o they_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o type_n locum_fw-la type_n in_o locum_fw-la albertus_n in_o his_o commentary_n st._n john_n say_v another_o angel_n that_o be_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n esay_n 9_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n 8._o carthusianus_n doctores_fw-la cae●belici_fw-la per_fw-la angelum_fw-la isium_n intelligunt_fw-la christum_fw-la qui_fw-la magni_fw-la
consilii_fw-la angelus_n &_o per_fw-la incarnationis_fw-la mysterium_fw-la venit_fw-la in_o mundum_fw-la stetitqae_fw-la ante_fw-la altar_n id_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la conspectu_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la diony_n carthus_n in_o apoc._n 8._o catholic_n doctor_n etc._n etc._n by_o this_o angel_n understand_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o great_a counsel_n and_o which_o by_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o incarnation_n come_v into_o the_o world_n and_o stand_v upon_o the_o altar_n of_o the_o cross_n blasius_n 2._o blasius_n nec_fw-la vero_fw-la rectè_fw-la quidam_fw-la è_fw-la recentioribus_fw-la argumentantur_fw-la angelum_fw-la istum_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la quod_fw-la christus_fw-la nunquam_fw-la angelus_n absolute_a dicitur_fw-la satis_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la consequentibus_fw-la facile_fw-la intelligi_fw-la potest_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la quae_fw-la nifi_n christ_n alteri_fw-la aptè_fw-la accommodari_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la cujus_fw-la enim_fw-la alterius_fw-la est_fw-la universae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la incensa_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la orationes_fw-la in_o thuribulo_fw-la aurto_fw-la tanta_fw-la majestatis_fw-la specie_fw-la patri_fw-la offer_n cujus_fw-la praeterquam_fw-la christi_fw-la fuit_fw-la de_fw-la igne_fw-la quo_fw-la thuribulum_n aureum_fw-la eaat_fw-mi impletum_fw-la partem_fw-la in_o terras_fw-la misisse_fw-la easque_fw-la divini_fw-la amoris_fw-la igne_fw-la inflammasse_o etc._n etc._n apuaret_fw-la autem_fw-la christus_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la personam_fw-la gerens_fw-la ut_fw-la ejus_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la apud_fw-la patrem_fw-la intercessio_fw-la atque_fw-la interpellatio_fw-la monstretur_fw-la vieg_n in_o apoc._n 8._o sec._n 2._o viegas_n a_o jesuit_n we_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v christ_n because_o the_o thing_n here_o speak_v of_o he_o can_v agree_v to_o no_o other_o but_o christ_n for_o who_o but_o he_o can_v with_o so_o great_a majesty_n offer_v up_o to_o god_n the_o incense_n that_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o beside_o he_o be_v able_a out_o of_o the_o perfume_a pann_n to_o send_v down_o into_o the_o earth_n the_o fiery_a coal_n of_o divine_a charity_n and_o to_o inflame_v people_n with_o the_o burn_a grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n with_o these_o agree_n 8._o agree_n ambros_n super_fw-la apoc._n vis_fw-fr 3._o cap._n 8._o ambrose_n 2._o ambrose_n primus_fw-la in_o apoc._n 8._o biblioth_n sanct._n colon._n to_o 9_o p._n 2._o primasius_n 393._o primasius_n ansbert_n in_o apoc._n 8._o bibl._n sanct._n col._n to_o 9_o p._n 393._o authertus_n 2._o authertus_n bed_n 5._o super_fw-la apoc._n lib._n 2._o beda_n 8._o beda_n haimo_fw-it in_o apoc._n 8._o haimo_n card._n haimo_n hugo_n card._n hugo_n cardinalis_fw-la and_o the_o gloss_n christ_n gloss_n glossae_fw-la totum_fw-la legunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la christ_n but_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v a_o create_v or_o 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sect._n 2._o the_o idolatry_n of_o this_o practice_n prove_v 1._o because_o it_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o of_o our_o confession_n 2._o because_o prayer_n to_o a_o absent_a be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n and_o so_o be_v vow_n and_o hymn_n sect._n 3.3_o because_o the_o apostle_n give_v we_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n so_o to_o do_v sect._n 4._o the_o sequel_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v confirm_v and_o the_o objection_n answer_v sect._n 5._o and_o the_o argument_n from_o miracle_n confute_v sect._n 6._o have_v lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n let_v we_o now_o view_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o the_o trent_n council_n have_v deliver_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n 1._o viz._n mandate_n sancta_fw-la synodus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o clerieis_fw-la docendi_fw-la munuscurámque_fw-la sustinentibus_fw-la ut_fw-la fideles_fw-la diligenter_n instruant_fw-la docentes_fw-la eos_fw-la bonum_fw-la atque_fw-la utile_fw-la esse_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la eos_fw-la invocare_fw-la ad_fw-la eorum_fw-la orationes_fw-la opem_fw-la auxiliúmque_fw-la confugere_fw-la illos_fw-la verò_fw-la qui_fw-la negant_fw-la sanctos_fw-la aeterna_fw-la felicitate_a in_fw-la calo_fw-la fruentes_fw-la invocandos_fw-la esse_fw-la aut_fw-la qui_fw-la asserunt_fw-la eorum_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la singulis_fw-la orent_fw-la invocationem_fw-la esse_fw-la idololatricam_fw-la vel_fw-la pugnare_fw-la cum_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la adversi_fw-la ique_fw-la honori_fw-la unius_fw-la mediatoris_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o hominis_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la vel_fw-la stultum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o coele_fw-la regantibus_fw-la voce_fw-la vel_fw-la ment_fw-la suppli●are_fw-la impié_fw-fr sentire_fw-la st_n quis_fw-la autem_fw-la his_fw-la decretis_fw-la contraria_fw-la docuerit_fw-la aut_fw-la senserit_fw-la anath_n ma_fw-fr sit_fw-la sess_n 25._o c._n 1._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a humble_o to_o invoke_v the_o saint_n and_o fly_v unto_o their_o prayer_n and_o help_v and_o that_o whosoever_o do_v deny_v that_o saint_n who_o do_v enjoy_v eternal_a happiness_n in_o heaven_n aught_o to_o be_v invoke_v or_o do_v assert_v that_o to_o entreat_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o any_o single_a person_n be_v idolatry_n or_o be_v
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own_o self_n pray_v unto_o he_o and_o again_o 802._o again_o serm._n 7._o de_fw-fr paenit_fw-la t._n 6._o ed._n savil._n p._n 802._o with_o god_n there_o be_v no_o such_o matter_n without_o a_o intercessor_n he_o be_v entreat_v it_o suffice_v only_o that_o thou_o cry_v in_o thy_o heart_n last_o 416._o last_o serm._n de_fw-fr profectu_fw-la evang._n to._n 5._o p._n 416._o with_o god_n say_v he_o thou_o have_v need_v of_o no_o intercessor_n but_o although_o thou_o be_v alone_o and_o have_v no_o patron_n thou_o by_o thyself_o pray_v unto_o god_n shall_v certain_o obtain_v thy_o request_n he_o use_v not_o to_o yield_v so_o soon_o be_v pray_v unto_o by_o other_o for_o we_o as_o when_o we_o ourselves_o do_v pray_v unto_o he_o although_o we_o be_v replenish_v with_o a_o thousand_o evil_n 524._o evil_n serm._n in_o psal_n 4._o p._n 524._o thus_o do_v he_o deal_v with_o the_o woman_n of_o canaan_n when_o peter_n and_o james_n come_v for_o she_o he_o do_v not_o yield_v but_o when_o she_o 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objection_n last_o that_o he_o may_v give_v some_o colour_n to_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o word_n of_o hilary_n he_o very_o disingenuous_o and_o lame_o represent_v his_o argument_n for_o he_o make_v it_o to_o be_v only_o this_o that_o because_o nothing_o be_v hide_v from_o god_n there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o suffragator_fw-la whereas_o his_o argument_n run_v thus_o to_o make_v he_o favourable_a who_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o merit_n or_o the_o work_n of_o all_o man_n there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o any_o suffragator_fw-la now_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v as_o well_o the_o business_n of_o a_o intercessor_n as_o of_o a_o counsellor_n to_o plead_v the_o merit_n or_o good_a work_n of_o he_o for_o who_o he_o intercede_v 4._o when_o 381._o when_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 381._o celsus_n have_v affirm_v that_o by_o give_v worship_n to_o those_o daemon_n which_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a god_n he_o will_v not_o be_v offend_v who_o subject_n they_o be_v origen_n reply_v 382._o reply_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la l._n 8._o p._n 382._o that_o he_o who_o do_v not_o any_o work_n that_o be_v grateful_a to_o the_o daemon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v ascend_v above_o the_o worship_n of_o they_o and_o that_o be_v ascend_v above_o the_o portion_n of_o they_o who_o by_o st._n paul_n be_v call_v god_n i._n e._n the_o angel_n who_o as_o they_o do_v or_o any_o other_o way_n do_v look_v not_o at_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v see_v but_o which_o be_v not_o see_v and_o who_o behold_v that_o the_o creature_n wait_v for_o the_o revelation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n do_v speak_v well_o of_o or_o wish_v well_o to_o they_o and_o understanding_n that_o the_o creature_n shall_v be_v deliver_v from_o the_o bondage_n of_o corruption_n into_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v not_o himself_o distract_v or_o withdraw_v from_o god_n to_o worship_v any_o other_o with_o he_o nor_o do_v endure_v to_o serve_v two_o lord_n wherefore_o say_v he_o it_o be_v not_o a_o seditious_a speech_n of_o those_o who_o be_v well_o content_a with_o one_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n do_v think_v and_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o will_v not_o give_v dulia_n to_o more_o lord_n now_o that_o the_o strength_n and_o pertinency_n of_o this_o discourse_n may_v be_v conspicuous_a to_o the_o reader_n let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o 63._o that_o eam_fw-la verò_fw-la origenis_n doctrinam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la quod_fw-la omnes_fw-la angeli_fw-la sublimésque_fw-la virtutes_fw-la in_o delore_fw-la &_o gemitibus_fw-la sint_fw-la antequam_fw-la nos_fw-la penitus_fw-la liberemur_fw-la non_fw-la dubium_fw-la est_fw-la legenti_fw-la commentarium_fw-la ejus_fw-la hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la &_o ca_fw-mi quae_fw-la scribir_n libr._n 1._o de_fw-la principiis_fw-la c._n 7_o 8._o esth_n in_o locom_a vide_fw-la not._n spenceri_fw-la in_o l._n 5._o contr_n celsum_fw-la p._n 63._o origen_n conceive_v this_o passage_n of_o st._n paul_n which_o speak_v of_o that_o corruption_n and_o vanity_n to_o which_o *_o the_o creature_n be_v unwilling_o subject_v be_v to_o be_v understand_v as_o well_o of_o angel_n as_o of_o inferior_a creature_n as_o be_v apparent_a both_o from_o his_o comment_n on_o the_o place_n and_o from_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr principiis_fw-la chap._n 7_o 8._o so_o that_o his_o meaning_n in_o these_o word_n must_v undeniable_o be_v this_o the_o christian_a in_o his_o devotion_n do_v ascend_v above_o the_o angel_n and_o be_v not_o so_o distract_v and_o withdraw_v from_o god_n as_o to_o worship_v angel_n with_o he_o but_o make_v god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n the_o only_a object_n of_o his_o worship_n 2._o 383._o 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la l._n 8._o p._n 383._o we_o christian_n say_v he_o do_v not_o decline_v the_o worship_n of_o any_o other_o with_o god_n and_o by_o his_o word_n because_o we_o think_v god_n can_v be_v hurt_v as_o a_o man_n may_v by_o serve_v of_o another_o with_o he_o but_o that_o we_o may_v not_o hurt_v ourselves_o by_o separate_v of_o ourselves_o from_o the_o portion_n of_o god_n 3_o he_o add_v that_o 384._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n p._n 384._o we_o have_v better_a reason_n to_o serve_v god_n only_o by_o his_o son_n by_o who_o conduction_n we_o be_v bring_v to_o god_n than_o to_o serve_v two_o lord_n or_o perform_v what_o celsus_n have_v affirm_v to_o be_v grateful_a to_o god_n viz._n the_o worship_v of_o those_o who_o be_v his_o subject_n and_o belong_v to_o he_o 4._o he_o affirm_v that_o when_o st._n 382._o st._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la ib._n p._n 382._o paul_n assert_v that_o to_o we_o there_o be_v but_o one_o god_n the_o father_n from_o who_o be_v all_o thing_n he_o speak_v there_o of_o himself_o and_o of_o all_o they_o who_o do_v ascend_v unto_o the_o high_a god_n of_o god_n and_o lord_n of_o lord_n which_o person_n he_o describe_v by_o these_o three_o note_n 1._o that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o do_v ibid._n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n id._n ibid._n inseparable_o and_o undivide_o worship_v this_o god_n of_o god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n 2._o that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o come_v unto_o he_o by_o christ_n alone_o 3._o that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o so_o ascend_v to_o he_o as_o to_o 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n 〈◊〉_d transcend_v even_o these_o bless_a spirit_n which_o be_v in_o scripture_n call_v go_n 5._o he_o comprehend_v the_o honour_n which_o the_o christian_n give_v unto_o the_o angel_n in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bene_fw-la precatur_fw-la creaturae_fw-la say_v the_o latin_a whereas_o st._n apost_n st._n aug._n serm._n 17_o the_o verb_n apost_n austin_n tell_v we_o it_o be_v a_o injury_n to_o pray_v for_o they_o unto_o who_o prayer_n we_o ought_v to_o be_v commend_v to_o these_o citation_n t.g._n return_v this_o answer_n viz_o 357._o viz_o p._n 357._o that_o the_o worship_n which_o origen_n here_o contend_v be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o angel_n be_v divine_a worship_n proper_a to_o god_n alone_o but_o 1._o this_o reply_n make_v origen_n dispute_v impertinent_o and_o to_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o celsus_n only_o do_v contend_v for_o this_o 381_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n l._n 8_o p._n 381_o that_o together_o with_o the_o high_a god_n inferior_a being_n might_n be_v worship_v as_o his_o subject_n no_o say_v st._n origen_n the_o christian_n go_v immediate_o to_o god_n by_o christ_n he_o come_v unto_o he_o by_o no_o other_o he_o ascend_v above_o the_o service_n of_o daemon_n and_o of_o angel_n
invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o roman_a catholic_n do_v practice_v but_o if_o instead_o of_o speak_v to_o this_o one_o case_n of_o supplication_n you_o will_v let_v i_o wander_v through_o the_o whole_a worship_n of_o those_o daemon_n than_o i_o have_v three_o disparity_n to_o offer_v this_o be_v the_o twig_n the_o poor_a man_n catch_v hold_v of_o to_o save_v both_o he_o and_o his_o whole_a church_n from_o sink_v but_o in_o vain_a for_o the_o disparity_n which_o he_o have_v represent_v betwixt_o that_o honour_n which_o they_o give_v to_o saint_n and_o what_o the_o heathen_a do_v ascribe_v to_o their_o inferior_a daemon_n be_v not_o only_o horrible_o impertinent_a but_o also_o vain_a and_o frivolous_a as_o will_v appear_v by_o reassume_v of_o his_o head_n of_o difference_n as_o 1._o the_o person_n to_o who_o we_o address_v ourselves_o for_o their_o prayer_n 351._o t._n g._n pag._n 351._o be_v not_o devil_n or_o wicked_a wretch_n but_o the_o friend_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n answ_n 1._o st._n austin_n manifest_o do_v assert_v 23._o dec._n d._n l._n 9_o c._n 23._o that_o either_o all_o or_o at_o the_o least_o the_o better_a sort_n of_o platonist_n hoc_fw-la ipsum_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quod_fw-la dicimus_fw-la do_v assert_v the_o same_o of_o their_o good_a daemon_n which_o we_o do_v of_o the_o bless_a angel_n that_o there_o be_v also_o no_o dissension_n betwixt_o they_o and_o christian_n touch_v these_o bless_a spirit_n and_o that_o the_o controversy_n be_v but_o this_o whether_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v daemon_n as_o they_o be_v wont_a to_o style_v they_o or_o angel_n as_o the_o christian_n call_v they_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a he_o do_v not_o think_v the_o platonist_n good_a daemon_n to_o be_v devil_n or_o wicked_a wretch_n as_o t._n g._n suggest_v 2._o it_o be_v apparent_a from_o their_o write_n that_o other_o heathen_n have_v the_o same_o apprehension_n of_o they_o which_o the_o papist_n have_v of_o saint_n and_o angel_n for_o they_o distinguish_v they_o into_o such_o spirit_n as_o 50._o as_o verum_fw-la haec_fw-la omnis_fw-la distributio_fw-la corum_fw-la daemonum_n fait_fw-fr qui_fw-fr quondam_a in_fw-la corpore_fw-la bumano_fw-la fuere_fw-la sunt_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la posteriore_fw-la numero_fw-la praestantiori_fw-la long_o dignitate_fw-la superius_fw-la aliud_fw-la angustiusque_fw-la genus_fw-la daemonum_n qui_fw-la semper_fw-la à_fw-la corporis_fw-la compedibus_fw-la &_o nexibus_fw-la liberi_fw-la apuleius_n l._n de_fw-la deo_fw-la socratis_n p._n 50._o be_v by_o death_n deliver_v from_o the_o body_n and_o such_o as_o never_o be_v unite_v to_o the_o body_n and_o hence_o that_o law_n of_o the_o old_a romanist_n 2._o romanist_n divos_fw-la &_o eos_fw-la qui_fw-la coeloste_n semper_fw-la habiti_fw-la colunto_fw-la &_o ollos_fw-la quos_fw-la in_o coelum_fw-la merita_fw-la vocaverunt_fw-la cic._n de_fw-fr legibus_fw-la l._n 2._o let_v they_o be_v worship_v who_o have_v always_o live_v in_o heaven_n and_o those_o who_o merit_n have_v advance_v they_o to_o that_o place_n where_o we_o have_v both_o the_o same_o object_n of_o our_o worship_n and_o the_o same_o reason_n of_o that_o worship_n give_v viz._n their_o merit_n or_o as_o trismegistus_n have_v it_o the_o virtue_n of_o their_o life_n and_o though_o i_o grant_v they_o be_v mistake_v in_o their_o apprehension_n yet_o he_o that_o do_v so_o confident_o assert_v that_o roman_a catholic_n will_v not_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n provide_v the_o material_a object_n of_o their_o worship_n shall_v be_v bread_n because_o they_o apprehend_v what_o be_v bread_n not_o to_o be_v there_o but_o christ_n can_v have_v any_o reason_n to_o quarrel_v with_o the_o heathen_n because_o when_o they_o perform_v their_o worship_n to_o a_o image_n in_o who_o these_o spirit_n be_v conceive_v to_o be_v present_a they_o apprehend_v no_o evil_a spirit_n to_o be_v there_o but_o only_o pure_a and_o holy_a soul_n and_o bless_a daemon_n 2._o their_o office_n say_v he_o be_v not_o to_o inform_v the_o supreme_a god_n of_o what_o he_o know_v but_o to_o be_v joint_a petitioner_n with_o we_o answ_n admit_v all_o this_o the_o father_n do_v express_o hold_v they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v worship_v upon_o that_o account_n but_o 2._o let_v i_o crave_v leave_n of_o good_a st._n augustine_n to_o assert_v that_o the_o platonist_n do_v not_o conceive_v that_o god_n be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o be_v do_v on_o earth_n or_o that_o he_o need_v daemon_n or_o any_o other_o spirit_n to_o inform_v he_o of_o our_o word_n thought_n or_o action_n st._n augustine_n i_o confess_v infer_v this_o doctrine_n from_o what_o they_o do_v assert_v but_o that_o they_o constant_o profess_v and_o teach_v the_o contrary_a be_v clear_a than_o the_o sun_n 4._o sun_n theolog._n dogm_n tom_n 1._o l._n 8._o c._n 4._o petavius_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o ten_o book_n of_o plato_n be_v spend_v in_o prove_v that_o god_n want_v neither_o power_n will_n nor_o knowledge_n to_o make_v his_o providence_n concern_v about_o the_o least_o thing_n which_o be_v do_v on_o earth_n and_o that_o express_o he_o declare_v that_o the_o god_n discern_v know_v and_o hear_v all_o thing_n and_o that_o nothing_o which_o our_o sense_n or_o reason_n can_v perceive_v can_v be_v conceal_v from_o they_o this_o say_v interpretatione_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 10._o the_o leg_n p._n 955._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ammonius_n comment_fw-fr ad_fw-la librum_fw-la aristotelis_fw-la de_fw-la interpretatione_n plotinus_n and_o ammonius_n must_v be_v certain_a that_o if_o the_o god_n be_v the_o first_o cause_n of_o all_o thing_n they_o can_v possible_o be_v ignorant_a of_o any_o thing_n which_o be_v in_o any_o manner_n do_v by_o they_o moreover_o the_o 2._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d plotinus_n enn._n 5._o l._n 9_o c._n 5_o vid._n petavium_n t._n 1._o l._n 4._o c._n 2._o platonist_n affirm_v that_o god_n have_v this_o knowledge_n from_o and_o by_o himself_o and_o from_o no_o other_o and_o that_o nothing_o be_v require_v but_o his_o nature_n to_o make_v he_o understand_v all_o thing_n particular_o both_o platonist_n and_o other_o hold_v that_o god_n be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o be_v himself_o acquaint_v with_o the_o thought_n of_o man_n hence_o 83._o hence_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d laertius_n in_o vit_fw-mi thaletis_n p._n 24_o nihil_fw-la deo_fw-la clausum_fw-la est_fw-la interest_n animus_fw-la nostris_fw-la &_o cogitationibus_fw-la intervenit_fw-la senec_n ep._n 83._o thales_n be_v ask_v whether_o the_o action_n of_o man_n can_v be_v conceal_v from_o god_n he_o answer_v no_o nor_o yet_o our_o thought_n nothing_o be_v hide_v from_o god_n faith_n seneca_n he_o be_v both_o present_a to_o our_o mind_n and_o thought_n whence_o he_o exhort_v we_o so_o to_o live_v as_o in_o his_o sight_n and_o so_o to_o think_v as_o have_v one_o who_o look_v into_o our_o breast_n 1._o breast_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d xenophon_n memorab_n l._n 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traditur_fw-la nullam_fw-la creaturam_fw-la colendam_fw-la esse_fw-la animae_fw-la libentius_fw-la enim_fw-la liquour_n his_fw-la verbis_fw-la quibus_fw-la mihi_fw-la haec_fw-la insinu●ta_fw-la sunt_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsum_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la rerum_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnium_fw-la creatorem_fw-la august_n l._n de_fw-fr quant_fw-fr animae_fw-la p._n 34._o in_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v divine_o and_o singular_o deliver_v that_o we_o creature_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o soul_n but_o he_o only_o who_o be_v the_o creator_n of_o all_o thing_n but_o roman_a catholic_n do_v and_o upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o do_v by_o see_v god_n 418._o p._n 418._o perceive_v the_o secret_n of_o it_o and_o as_o t._n g._n assert_n do_v know_v both_o our_o necessity_n and_o prayer_n concern_v and_o action_n i_o say_v upon_o this_o supposition_n they_o ought_v to_o worship_v saint_n and_o angel_n not_o only_o with_o the_o body_n but_o the_o soul_n for_o see_v mental_a prayer_n vow_n and_o thanksgiving_n be_v by_o all_o confess_v to_o be_v part_n of_o that_o religious_a worship_n which_o our_o soul_n perform_v to_o god_n to_o make_v such_o vow_n and_o put_v up_o such_o petition_n and_o thanksgiving_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o angel_n must_v be_v to_o worship_n saint_n and_o angel_n with_o the_o soul_n beside_o all_o inward_a fear_n and_o reverence_n must_v be_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o yet_o if_o we_o may_v vow_v and_o pray_v and_o tender_v our_o thanksgiving_n to_o they_o upon_o presumption_n that_o they_o know_v the_o inward_a motion_n of_o our_o heart_n we_o may_v well_o be_v afraid_a to_o do_v these_o action_n hypocritical_o and_o remissly_a upon_o the_o same_o account_n we_o may_v well_o dread_a to_o think_v or_o vow_v or_o pray_v amiss_o and_o fear_v their_o anger_n and_o their_o just_a displeasure_n if_o we_o do_v so_o thus_o to_o deter_v we_o from_o our_o secret_a sin_n the_o stoic_n 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and_o defence_n against_o the_o power_n of_o the_o enemy_n to_o drive_v away_o their_o foe_n and_o overthrow_v their_o machination_n why_o do_v they_o never_o call_v upon_o their_o guardian_n angel_n to_o take_v hold_n of_o sword_n and_o buckler_n and_o rise_v up_o to_o help_v they_o or_o to_o their_o valiant_a champion_n gabriel_n to_o rise_v up_o to_o help_v they_o against_o the_o malignant_n and_o to_o be_v with_o they_o against_o all_o their_o adversary_n 3._o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n when_o they_o appear_v the_o jew_n do_v sometime_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n to_o they_o why_o therefore_o do_v they_o not_o invoke_v they_o when_o absent_a and_o invisible_a if_o they_o have_v hold_v as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o be_v absent_a they_o be_v as_o able_a to_o perceive_v their_o supplication_n and_o obtain_v the_o blessing_n they_o do_v want_v and_o that_o their_o aid_n be_v such_o a_o excellent_a and_o present_a help_n against_o the_o violent_a assault_n of_o a_o temptation_n and_o all_o those_o flood_n of_o evil_n we_o be_v continual_o expose_v to_o with_o we_o consent_v the_o ancient_a father_n in_o this_o matter_n 235._o matter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n l._n 5._o p._n 234._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 235._o none_o that_o observe_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n do_v worship_n angel_n for_o so_o to_o do_v be_v not_o a_o jewish_a custom_n but_o a_o transgression_n of_o their_o custom_n say_v the_o learned_a origen_n arrian_n origen_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4._o cont_n arrian_n jacob_n and_o david_n do_v request_v deliverance_n of_o none_o but_o god_n say_v athanasius_n and_o whereas_o t._n g._n and_o the_o roman_a catechism_n 6._o object_n §_o 6._o produce_v those_o word_n of_o jacob_n the_o angel_n that_o redeem_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v the_o lad_n as_o a_o example_n of_o this_o invocation_n and_o a_o proof_n that_o it_o be_v practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a jew_n if_o we_o consider_v what_o the_o father_n have_v deliver_v upon_o this_o text_n and_o how_o express_o they_o assert_v these_o word_n must_v certain_o be_v understand_v of_o christ_n we_o may_v admire_v that_o any_o roman_a doctor_n who_o stand_v oblige_v by_o his_o oath_n fidei_fw-la oath_n nec_fw-la eam_fw-la unquam_fw-la nisi_fw-la juxta_fw-la unaniman_n consensum_fw-la patrum_fw-la accipiam_fw-la &_o interpretabor_fw-la bulla_n pii_fw-la 4._o super_fw-la forma_fw-la juramenti_fw-la professionis_fw-la fidei_fw-la not_o to_o interpret_v scripture_n but_o according_a to_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n shall_v make_v so_o little_a conscience_n of_o that_o oath_n as_o to_o interpret_v this_o and_o many_o other_o scripture_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o prevail_a judgement_n of_o those_o father_n 2._o it_o be_v admirable_a to_o consider_v with_o what_o incredible_a
advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n the_o father_n speak_v upon_o this_o text_n if_o we_o have_v nothing_o more_o to_o say_v but_o what_o they_o have_v deliver_v on_o these_o word_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v what_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o justify_v that_o imputation_n which_o we_o lie_v upon_o the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o they_o do_v express_o say_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o t._n g._n and_o his_o infallible_a mother_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o a_o heretical_a exposition_n 15._o exposition_n ac_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la haereticus_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la obluctans_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la voluerit_fw-la in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la proprie_fw-la angelum_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligere_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la esse_fw-la contenderit_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quoque_fw-la viribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la frangatur_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n c._n 15._o if_o any_o heretic_n say_v novatian_n who_o pertinacious_o strive_v against_o the_o truth_n will_v have_v we_o in_o all_o these_o example_n proper_o to_o understand_v the_o angel_n or_o will_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o that_o expression_n in_o this_o he_o must_v assure_o be_v break_v by_o the_o force_n of_o truth_n this_o exposition_n of_o the_o papist_n say_v st._n cyril_n 115.116_o thesaur_n p._n 115.116_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n the_o sottish_a exposition_n of_o the_o arian_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o protestant_n must_v therefore_o be_v both_o true_a and_o orthodox_n 2._o they_o add_v that_o 116._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n alexandr_n thesaur_n p._n 116._o if_o the_o enemy_n of_o christ_n do_v think_v that_o jacob_n be_v a_o holy_a man_n and_o one_o endn_v with_o the_o prophetic_a spirit_n when_o he_o speak_v these_o word_n they_o may_v be_v well_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o so_o gross_a a_o error_n as_o be_v the_o invocation_n of_o a_o angel_n with_o god_n this_o custom_n therefore_o of_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n in_o the_o same_o sentence_n to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a angel_n or_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n or_o angel_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n arr._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4_o contr_n arr._n exceed_o repugnant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o which_o they_o esteem_v the_o 115._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d b._n cyrill_n alexandr_n thesau_n p._n 115._o gross_a error_n 3_o they_o give_v we_o this_o as_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o jacob_n speak_v not_o to_o a_o creature_n because_o he_o say_v 260._o orat._n 4._o contra_fw-la arian_n p._n 260._o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a say_v athanasius_n and_o st._n cyril_n that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o 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2._o i_o answer_v this_o be_v no_o prayer_n but_o a_o wish_v thus_o when_o st._n paul_n conclude_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n 13.14_o 2_o cor._n 13.14_o and_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v with_o you_o all_o i_o hope_v he_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o then_o this_o passage_n may_v be_v thus_o expound_v i_o wish_v to_o god_n that_o he_o and_o that_o good_a angel_n who_o under_o he_o preserve_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n may_v preserve_v the_o lad_n some_o roman_a catholic_n confess_v that_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v for_o and_o tell_v we_o 18._o vide_fw-la vossium_n de_fw-fr invoc_n sanct._n disp_n 2_o th._n 18._o that_o although_o this_o practice_n in_o its_o self_n be_v good_a and_o profitable_a god_n will_v not_o suffer_v his_o own_o people_n to_o 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that_o people_n to_o this_o idolatry_n that_o he_o do_v not_o enjoin_v this_o practice_n but_o only_o because_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o will_v not_o give_v his_o honour_n to_o another_o against_o the_o worship_n of_o a_o image_n or_o of_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n or_o any_o other_o god_n which_o by_o the_o heathen_n be_v still_o worship_v under_o some_o visible_a representation_n we_o have_v frequent_a caution_n and_o very_o dreadful_a threaten_n in_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n but_o against_o this_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v those_o spirit_n which_o in_o their_o nature_n be_v invisible_a those_o writing_n give_v we_o not_o one_o caution_n or_o prohibition_n though_o they_o do_v often_o call_v they_o god_n of_o which_o affair_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o conceive_v a_o better_a reason_n than_o this_o be_v that_o it_o be_v just_a matter_n of_o suspicion_n that_o this_o rude_a heavy_a people_n may_v be_v prone_a to_o worship_v what_o they_o see_v but_o it_o be_v not_o 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dit_fw-fr a●ieni_fw-la ante_fw-la faciem_fw-la meam_fw-la id_fw-la voluisse_fw-la ne_fw-la homines_fw-la ullos_fw-la ponerent_fw-la sequestres_fw-mi aut_fw-la deprecatores_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la &_o ipsos_fw-la vossiu_fw-la in_o maim_v de_fw-fr idolol_n c._n 2._o sect._n 1_o josephus_n albus_n suppose_v this_o worship_n of_o the_o angel_n as_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o we_o to_o be_v the_o most_o antique_a idolatry_n and_o locum_fw-la and_o fundamentum_fw-la mandati_fw-la de_fw-la idololatria_fw-la est_fw-la nequis_fw-la serviat_fw-la creaturae_fw-la non_fw-la angelo_n non_fw-la sphae●ae_fw-la non_fw-la stellae_fw-la quanquam_fw-la autem_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la ca_fw-mi colit_fw-la sciat_fw-la illa_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la deum_fw-la ac_fw-la colat_fw-la creaturam_fw-la hanc_fw-la quomodo_fw-la coluit_fw-la euos_a &_o illius_fw-la coaetanei_fw-la nihilomi●us_fw-la est_fw-la idololatria_fw-la maim_v ibid._n maimonides_n sue_v definitione_n non_fw-la tantum_fw-la se_fw-la complecti_fw-la ait_fw-la eos_n qui_fw-la creaturis_fw-la cultum_fw-la exhibent_fw-la we_o deo_fw-la verum_fw-la qui_fw-la iis_fw-la supplicant_n ut_fw-la ministris_fw-la dei_fw-la diony_n vossius_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la maimon_n add_v that_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o idolatry_n be_v this_o that_o no_o man_n serve_v or_o worship_v any_o angel_n or_o create_v be_v as_o the_o foundation_n of_o our_o last_o evidence_n of_o that_o idolatry_n which_o be_v in_o this_o particular_a commit_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 9_o §._o 9_o we_o do_v premise_v 1._o that_o magic_n be_v that_o art_n of_o divination_n which_o in_o conversant_a about_o the_o revelation_n of_o thing_n contingent_a and_o conceal_v as_o v._o g._n touch_v the_o victory_n of_o contend_v party_n the_o future_a condition_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o declaration_n of_o our_o future_a state_n fortune_n marriage_n death_n prosperity_n adversity_n and_o many_o other_o thing_n which_o it_o be_v 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p._n 6._o 12._o we_o think_v it_o equal_a that_o the_o canon_n make_v by_o holy_a father_n in_o every_o synod_n until_o now_o shall_v be_v observe_v 1._o can._n 1._o 2._o observe_v that_o what_o the_o canon_n thus_o express_v 3._o §_o 3._o viz._n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o name_v the_o angel_n be_v a_o anathema_n direct_v against_o those_o which_o pray_v to_o angel_n so_o theodoret_n and_o photius_n who_o call_v upon_o they_o for_o help_n or_o introduction_n to_o god_n so_o zonaras_n and_o aristenus_n who_o worship_v they_o locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la so_o theodoret_n dionysius_n christonius_n and_o the_o epitome_n of_o canon_n present_v by_o pope_n adrian_n to_o charles_n the_o great_a who_o say_v we_o must_v be_v bring_v to_o god_n by_o angel_n so_o aristenus_n and_o the_o amerbachian_n scholiast_n locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la and_o that_o to_o cure_v that_o disease_n the_o council_n do_v command_v all_o christian_n not_o to_o pray_v unto_o they_o so_o theodoret_n and_o oecumenius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o zonaras_n do_v true_o say_v that_o to_o name_n angel_n in_o this_o canon_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o invoke_v they_o whence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o two_o whole_a century_n and_o upward_o do_v forbid_v all_o christian_n to_o invoke_v angel_n to_o worship_n or_o to_o call_v upon_o they_o and_o do_v pronounce_v anathema_n on_o they_o that_o do_v so_o 3._o observe_v that_o what_o this_o canon_n do_v forbid_v 4._o §_o 4._o be_v not_o the_o invocation_n of_o wicked_a daemon_n or_o of_o damn_a spirit_n but_o of_o the_o bless_a angel_n for_o 1._o according_a to_o theodoret_n and_o photius_n they_o do_v condemn_v the_o worshipper_n of_o michael_n the_o archangel_n and_o those_o that_o go_v unto_o the_o oratory_n or_o church_n of_o st._n michael_n 2._o the_o canon_n do_v relate_v to_o christian_n who_o sure_o will_v not_o meet_v to_o worship_v devil_n nor_o do_v it_o recall_v they_o to_o good_a angel_n but_o to_o jesus_n christ_n 3._o the_o person_n reprehend_v be_v say_v to_o have_v take_v up_o this_o custom_n of_o go_v thus_o to_o good_a daemon_n from_o a_o pretence_n of_o their_o unworthiness_n to_o go_v to_o god_n or_o christ_n immediate_o and_o from_o a_o appearance_n of_o humility_n so_o chrysostome_n theodoret_n and_o other_o but_o to_o expect_v the_o help_n of_o devil_n to_o introduce_v they_o to_o god_n and_o to_o pretend_v humility_n in_o do_v such_o a_o horrid_a act_n be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o high_a madness_n 4._o theodoret_n and_o photius_n inform_v we_o that_o they_o who_o bring_v up_o that_o forbid_a practice_n be_v zealous_a for_o the_o law_n now_o that_o most_o strict_o do_v forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o all_o evil_a spirit_n it_o be_v deliver_v not_o by_o they_o but_o by_o the_o bless_a angel_n 4._o that_o which_o be_v here_o forbid_a 4._o §_o 4._o be_v what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v daily_a practice_n for_o they_o do_v worship_n angel_n say_v the_o roman_a catechism_n 434._o part_n 3._o p._n 434._o this_o be_v and_o have_v be_v their_o perpetual_a custom_n to_o call_v upon_o they_o and_o to_o expect_v their_o help_n and_o patronage_n by_o virtue_n of_o those_o supplication_n hence_o that_o expression_n of_o the_o roman_a missal_n b._n missal_n hos_fw-la fidenter_fw-la deprecemur_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la adjuvemur_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la jugiter_fw-la prosa_fw-la ad_fw-la s._n angelos_n f._n 32._o b._n to_o they_o with_o confidence_n let_v we_o pray_v for_o god_n assistance_n every_o day_n they_o do_v expect_v salvation_n from_o their_o intercession_n in_o that_o very_a sense_n in_o which_o theophylact_v assert_n the_o heretic_n expect_v to_o be_v save_v by_o angel_n viz_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o person_n minister_a unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o christ_n hence_o their_o petition_n that_o b._n that_o hostias_fw-la tibi_fw-la domine_fw-la laudis_fw-la offerimus_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la deprecantes_fw-la ut_fw-la easdem_fw-la angelico_n interveniente_fw-la suffragio_fw-la &_o placatus_fw-la accipta_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la nostram_fw-la provenire_fw-la concedas_fw-la missa_fw-la votiva_fw-la de_fw-la angelis_n p._n 5.36_o ed._n aut._n fol._n gaudium_fw-la erit_fw-la tibi_fw-la angelo_n dei_fw-la super_fw-la i_o peccatore_fw-la tuis_fw-la intercessionibus_fw-la deum_fw-la obtinente_fw-la missa_fw-la in_o honorem_fw-la proprii_fw-la angelif_n 16._o b._n ed._n antuerp_n so._n 1577._o angelorum_fw-la concio_fw-la sacra_fw-la &_o archangelorum_fw-la turma_fw-la inclyta_fw-la nostra_fw-la diluant_fw-la jam_fw-la peccata_fw-la praestando_fw-la superacaeli_fw-la gaudia_fw-la prosa_fw-la de_fw-la omnibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la ibid._n f._n 33._o b._n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n they_o may_v obtain_v god_n favour_n and_o may_v be_v bring_v to_o life_n eternal_a if_o then_o that_o invocation_n which_o be_v here_o forbid_a be_v idolatry_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n must_v be_v so_o too_o 5._o this_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n 6._o §._o 6._o be_v express_o say_v to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o therefore_o if_o it_o be_v not_o true_o so_o this_o synod_n and_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n must_v be_v pronounce_v false_a accuser_n now_o of_o this_o enormity_n they_o can_v not_o just_o be_v accuse_v for_o desert_v christ_n for_o notwithstanding_o this_o they_o do_v not_o look_v upon_o those_o angel_n they_o invoke_v as_o god_n but_o as_o inferior_a creature_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o preson_n instrumental_a and_o subservient_fw-fr unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o therefore_o think_v we_o shall_v procure_v god_n favour_n by_o the_o mean_n of_o angel_n because_o that_o god_n himself_o be_v not_o to_o be_v approach_v or_o apprehend_v and_o because_o christ_n be_v so_o exalt_v that_o they_o dare_v not_o make_v their_o immediate_a address_n to_o he_o now_o to_o think_v christ_n great_a than_o that_o we_o sinful_a creature_n shall_v make_v address_n to_o he_o make_v some_o show_n of_o our_o humility_n but_o can_v possible_o be_v charge_v with_o idolatry_n for_o shall_v any_o man_n conceive_v himself_o unworthy_a to_o appear_v before_o god_n or_o look_v upon_o he_o as_o unaccessable_a by_o one_o of_o so_o defile_v a_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o shall_v entreat_v the_o prayer_n of_o his_o pious_a neighbour_n we_o may_v conclude_v that_o he_o be_v very_o ignorant_a and_o vain_a in_o his_o imagination_n but_o can_v not_o thence_o conclude_v that_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o so_o the_o reader_n see_v that_o notwithstanding_o these_o mistake_n of_o the_o angelick_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o wrong_n do_v they_o when_o we_o charge_v their_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n with_o idolatry_n for_o if_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o when_o absent_a be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o crime_n these_o by-mistakes_a can_v never_o make_v it_o guilty_a of_o that_o imputation_n beside_o the_o synod_n and_o theodoret_n do_v put_v a_o clear_a distinction_n betwixt_o these_o two_o particular_n which_o by_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n be_v confound_v and_o make_v to_o signify_v the_o same_o viz._n desertion_n of_o christ_n and_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o pray_v to_o the_o bless_a angel_n as_o be_v apparent_a from_o this_o expression_n of_o theodoret_n the_o synod_n of_o laodicea_n make_v a_o law_n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n nor_o forsake_v the_o lord_n christ_n whosoever_o do_v such_o thing_n say_v they_o accurse_a let_v he_o be_v because_o he_o have_v desert_v christ_n and_o give_v up_o himself_o unto_o idolatry_n last_o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o they_o do_v so_o reject_v or_o desert_n christ_n as_o to_o deny_v his_o intercession_n in_o the_o heaven_n but_o only_o upon_o this_o account_n because_o they_o do_v not_o make_v immediate_a address_n to_o he_o for_o as_o st._n paul_n assert_n
amount_v to_o this_o only_a that_o they_o forbid_v only_o that_o supplication_n which_o be_v tender_v to_o they_o as_o to_o god_n or_o as_o to_o primary_n and_o only_a mediator_n but_o 1._o the_o canon_n speak_v of_o christian_n now_o to_o suppose_v that_o they_o who_o fundamental_a principle_n it_o be_v to_o own_o one_o only_a god_n shall_v also_o worship_v angel_n as_o god_n be_v the_o extremity_n of_o folly_n 2._o theodoret_n and_o jerom_n declare_v 10._o epist_n ad_fw-la algasiam_fw-la quest_n 10._o that_o they_o who_o do_v abet_v this_o doctrine_n be_v jew_n or_o person_n zealous_a of_o the_o law_n now_o these_o man_n know_v that_o angel_n be_v but_o the_o instrument_n and_o creature_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o go_n 3_o they_o choose_v these_o angel_n as_o fit_a person_n to_o introduce_v they_o to_o god_n and_o use_v their_o meditation_n upon_o this_o pretence_n that_o such_o mean_a person_n shall_v not_o go_v direct_o to_o he_o and_o therefore_o can_v not_o look_v upon_o they_o as_o partaker_n of_o the_o nature_n to_o god_n in_o a_o word_n 8._o §_o 8._o what_o can_v be_v more_o incredible_a than_o that_o st._n paul_n be_v assist_v by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n shall_v daily_o practise_v this_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n and_o teach_v all_o christian_n so_o to_o do_v and_o yet_o affirm_v these_o thing_n without_o any_o limitation_n or_o distinction_n which_o if_o we_o may_v interpret_v they_o according_a to_o the_o plain_a and_o obvious_a meaning_n of_o the_o word_n do_v manifest_o condemn_v that_o which_o they_o do_v daily_a practice_n and_o lay_v upon_o saint_n paul_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n on_o supposition_n of_o this_o practice_n the_o imputation_n of_o idolatry_n and_o of_o desert_v our_o bless_a lord_n and_o shall_v deliver_v and_o approve_v these_o thing_n as_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n which_o all_o man_n stand_v oblige_v to_o believe_v nothing_o can_v be_v more_o contrary_a unto_o the_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o these_o bless_a spirit_n than_o a_o express_a command_n that_o we_o shall_v neither_o worship_v nor_o invoke_v they_o can_v it_o then_o enter_v into_o the_o heart_n of_o any_o sober_a person_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n even_o when_o they_o teach_v and_o practise_v both_o shall_v make_v receive_v and_o in_o their_o universal_a synod_n shall_v solemn_o confirm_v a_o law_n without_o distinction_n or_o exception_n forbid_v both_o the_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o they_o and_o require_v all_o good_a christian_n to_o avoid_v this_o practice_n as_o be_v the_o desert_v of_o their_o saviour_n and_o the_o give_v of_o god_n worship_n to_o those_o spirit_n since_o this_o devotion_n have_v obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o ever_o hear_v of_o any_o romanist_n who_o roundly_o and_o without_o distinction_n will_v assert_v that_o to_o invoke_v a_o angel_n be_v idolatry_n or_o that_o this_o invocation_n be_v forbid_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n as_o do_v theodoret_n and_o photius_n and_o the_o laodicean_n council_n who_o of_o they_o ever_o caution_v all_o christian_a people_n as_o st._n paul_n have_v do_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v seduce_v they_o to_o the_o worship_n of_o those_o bless_a spirit_n what_o council_n ever_o do_v decree_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v worship_v or_o invoke_v or_o own_o such_o doctrine_n as_o any_o part_n of_o christian_a faith_n and_o yet_o we_o find_v this_o do_v both_o by_o saint_n paul_n and_o by_o the_o laodicean_n council_n by_o origen_n theodoret_n and_o photius_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n viz._n what_o they_o confirm_v by_o their_o daily_a practice_n they_o not_o only_o do_v forbid_v but_o they_o pronounce_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o the_o desert_v of_o their_o saviour_n what_o they_o have_v thus_o decree_v in_o opposition_n to_o their_o own_o daily_a practice_n that_o they_o obtrude_v as_o a_o dictate_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o as_o the_o matter_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o against_o the_o worship_v of_o angel_n with_o divine_a worship_n or_o as_o sole_a or_o primary_n mediator_n which_o if_o we_o may_v believe_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o only_a thing_n in_o which_o they_o do_v offend_v we_o have_v no_o mention_n in_o the_o least_o that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o world_n such_o heretic_n as_o say_v it_o be_v beyond_o we_o or_o be_v too_o great_a a_o arrogance_n to_o go_v direct_o to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o that_o god_n be_v inaccessible_a and_o therefore_o we_o must_v go_v to_o angel_n this_o synod_n i_o suppose_v must_v know_v as_o well_o as_o chrysostom_n and_o theodoret_n why_o therefore_o do_v they_o never_o mention_v as_o do_v the_o latter_a comment_n on_o this_o canon_n what_o they_o alone_o design_v to_o prevent_v why_o do_v they_o not_o recall_v these_o heretic_n unto_o that_o invocation_n of_o these_o bless_a angel_n which_o have_v obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o tell_v they_o that_o they_o need_v not_o to_o desert_v the_o church_n or_o gather_v private_a conventicle_n in_o order_n to_o the_o invocation_n of_o these_o angel_n why_o do_v not_o they_o or_o or_o any_o other_o person_n that_o flourish_v in_o the_o four_o or_o five_o age_n of_o the_o church_n when_o this_o injunction_n be_v in_o force_n distinguish_v between_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n which_o the_o church_n do_v practice_v and_o that_o which_o be_v forbid_v by_o this_o canon_n why_o do_v s._n 236._o s._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 5._o contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la p._n 236._o origen_n conclude_v that_o celsus_n have_v not_o read_v that_o passage_n of_o st._n paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n because_o he_o say_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n be_v no_o transgression_n of_o their_o law_n for_o what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o suggest_v that_o this_o text_n of_o scripture_n be_v so_o plain_a against_o the_o worship_n of_o they_o that_o he_o that_o read_v it_o can_v think_v that_o they_o who_o own_o it_o can_v admit_v that_o worship_n why_o do_v theodoret_n affirm_v that_o because_o heretic_n command_v man_n to_o worship_n angel_n s._n paul_n enjoin_v the_o contrary_a for_o what_o be_v contrary_a to_o a_o command_n to_o worship_v angel_n but_o a_o injunction_n not_o to_o worship_n angel_n why_o do_v he_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v command_v we_o to_o send_v up_o our_o thanksgiving_n by_o christ_n and_o not_o by_o the_o angel_n for_o by_o who_o we_o may_v send_v up_o our_o petition_n why_o may_v we_o not_o send_v up_o thanksgiving_n too_o why_o do_v both_o he_o and_o photius_n inform_v we_o that_o the_o laodicean_n synod_n be_v desirous_a to_o heal_v this_o old_a disease_n enjoin_v christian_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o pray_v to_o angel_n for_o be_v not_o this_o a_o shrewd_a suspicion_n that_o this_o idololatrical_a disease_n be_v only_a that_o of_o pray_v to_o angel_n or_o else_o that_o both_o theodoret_n and_o photius_n be_v such_o intolerable_a dolt_n as_o to_o represent_v the_o very_a practice_n of_o the_o christian_n as_o the_o disease_n of_o the_o idolater_n and_o the_o desertor_n of_o our_o bless_a lord_n why_o be_v it_o last_o that_o st._n chrysostom_n inform_v we_o that_o for_o a_o cure_n of_o this_o disease_n st._n paul_n enjoin_v all_o christian_n to_o invoke_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o to_o bring_v in_o angel_n suggest_v this_o unto_o we_o that_o the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n be_v not_o consistent_a with_o that_o of_o christ_n and_o that_o by_o say_v do_v all_o thing_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n he_o have_v command_v we_o to_o pray_v unto_o he_o and_o call_v upon_o he_o as_o our_o helper_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o holy_a angel_n who_o know_v not_o that_o a_o sentence_n against_o any_o person_n ought_v in_o some_o word_n or_o other_o to_o specify_v the_o crime_n that_o it_o condemn_v and_o that_o a_o act_n so_o frame_v as_o to_o condemn_v a_o person_n as_o guilty_a of_o the_o high_a crime_n and_o worthy_a of_o the_o severe_a punishment_n for_o do_v what_o in_o the_o plain_a and_o literal_a meaning_n of_o the_o word_n all_o they_o that_o frame_v the_o act_n and_o they_o that_o own_v it_o as_o a_o law_n do_v daily_o practice_v be_v a_o absurdity_n that_o humane_a nature_n can_v possible_o be_v guilty_a of_o when_o therefore_o i_o can_v find_v a_o act_n of_o parliament_n intend_v only_o to_o condemn_v incestuous_a conversation_n frame_v thus_o whosoever_o shall_v marry_v any_o woman_n let_v he_o be_v severe_o punish_v or_o a_o decree_n of_o any_o council_n intend_v only_o to_o forbid_v we_o to_o go_v to_o the_o assembly_n of_o heretic_n thus_o word_v whosoever_o shall_v go_v to_o church_n let_v he_o be_v
prayer_n to_o god_n and_o bring_v down_o blessing_n from_o god_n to_o we_o as_o he_o have_v learn_v in_o the_o school_n of_o plato_n lest_o any_o shall_v be_v tempt_v to_o infer_v from_o this_o that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o these_o angel_n or_o that_o it_o be_v useful_a or_o needful_a so_o to_o do_v that_o so_o these_o bless_a spirit_n may_v be_v more_o propicious_a or_o helpful_a to_o we_o he_o do_v express_o say_v that_o 233._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 233._o to_o invoke_v they_o be_v no_o reasonable_a thing_n and_o this_o assertion_n he_o confirm_v by_o many_o argument_n 1._o it_o be_v absurd_a say_v he_o to_o call_v upon_o they_o because_o we_o want_v the_o knowledge_n of_o their_o nature_n and_o because_o it_o be_v above_o the_o reach_n of_o man._n and_o 2._o that_o if_o we_o can_v attain_v unto_o this_o knowledge_n that_o very_a knowledge_n which_o declare_v their_o nature_n and_o their_o offce_n to_o we_o will_v not_o permit_v we_o to_o pray_v to_o any_o other_o but_o unto_o god_n the_o lord_n of_o all_o who_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a for_o all_o by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n 3._o he_o reckon_v up_o in_o the_o apostle_n language_n all_o the_o kind_n and_o sort_n of_o prayer_n 233._o prayer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la l._n 5._o p_o 233._o petition_n deprecation_n intercession_n and_o thanksgiving_n and_o then_o he_o add_v all_o these_o we_o must_v put_v up_o to_o god_n by_o that_o high_a priest_n who_o do_v transcend_v all_o angel_n and_o that_o this_o worship_n in_o any_o of_o the_o kind_n foremention_v be_v therefore_o not_o to_o be_v confer_v upon_o the_o angel_n because_o they_o be_v not_o to_o receive_v ibid._n receive_v ibid._n the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n 4._o he_o add_v that_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o obtain_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n and_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n to_o labour_v to_o have_v god_n propitious_a and_o to_o procure_v his_o good_a will_n by_o godliness_n and_o virtue_n and_o by_o imitation_n of_o the_o angel_n piety_n and_o therefore_o not_o only_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n 233._o lib._n 5._o p._n 233._o but_o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o i_o must_v endeavour_v to_o approve_v ourselves_o to_o he_o who_o be_v one_o god_n over_o all_o and_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o he_o for_o mercy_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n will_v yet_o have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o good_a will_n of_o other_o after_o he_o who_o be_v god_n over_o all_o he_o must_v consider_v that_o as_o when_o the_o body_n be_v move_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o shadow_n thereof_o do_v follow_v so_o in_o like_a manner_n have_v god_n favourable_a unto_o we_o who_o be_v over_o all_o it_o follow_v that_o we_o shall_v have_v all_o his_o friend_n both_o angel_n and_o soul_n and_o spirit_n love_v unto_o we_o for_o they_o have_v a_o fellow_n feel_v with_o they_o that_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o find_v favour_n from_o god_n to_o who_o they_o be_v not_o only_o favourable_a but_o they_o pray_v with_o they_o so_o as_o we_o may_v be_v bold_a to_o say_v that_o when_o man_n which_o with_o resolution_n propose_v unto_o themselves_o the_o best_a thing_n do_v pray_v unto_o god_n many_o thousand_o of_o the_o sacred_a power_n pray_v together_o with_o they_o unspeak_a to_o moreover_o when_o celsus_n affirm_v 420._o id._n l._n 8._o p._n 420._o that_o thanks_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o daemon_n and_o that_o our_o prayer_n and_o first_o fruit_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o they_o 396._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 396._o that_o so_o we_o may_v obtain_v their_o presence_n with_o we_o and_o their_o favour_n to_o we_o who_o have_v obtain_v of_o god_n to_o be_v dispenser_n of_o inferior_a thing_n to_o this_o it_o be_v reply_v by_o origen_n 1._o that_o god_n have_v give_v no_o such_o government_n to_o daemon_n 400._o daemon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ib._n p._n 400._o 2._o that_o first_o fruit_n must_v be_v offer_v to_o god_n alone_o who_o say_v let_v the_o earth_n bring_v forth_o fruit_n and_o to_o he_o to_o who_o the_o christian_n offer_v their_o first_o fruit_n they_o offer_v also_o their_o petition_n 3._o he_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o office_n which_o celsus_n have_v ascribe_v to_o wicked_a daemon_n do_v agree_v to_o angel_n who_o upon_o that_o account_n in_o scripture_n be_v style_v minister_a spirit_n and_o do_v encamp_v about_o god_n servant_n for_o their_o protection_n and_o deliverance_n but_o lest_o we_o shall_v infer_v with_o celsus_n that_o we_o must_v therefore_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o be_v thus_o propicious_a he_o add_v we_o shall_v sufficient_o obtain_v their_o favour_n by_o imitation_n of_o their_o piety_n and_o invocation_n of_o that_o god_n to_o who_o they_o pray_v for_o thus_o he_o speak_v if_o we_o have_v a_o desire_n to_o a_o multitude_n who_o we_o will_v willing_o have_v to_o be_v favourable_a unto_o we_o 400._o l._n 8._o p._n 400._o we_o learn_v that_o thousand_o thousand_o stand_n by_o he_o and_o million_o of_o million_o minister_n unto_o he_o who_o behold_v they_o that_o imitate_v their_o piety_n towards_o god_n as_o if_o they_o be_v their_o kinsfolk_n and_o friend_n help_v forward_o their_o salvation_n and_o call_v upon_o god_n and_o pray_v sincere_o appear_v also_o and_o think_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o do_v service_n to_o they_o and_o as_o it_o be_v upon_o one_o watchword_n to_o set_v forth_o for_o the_o benefit_n and_o salvation_n of_o they_o that_o pray_v to_o god_n unto_o who_o they_o themselves_o also_o pray_v now_o to_o all_o these_o and_o all_o the_o argument_n that_o any_o man_n can_v bring_v t._n g._n return_v this_o answer_n 360._o §._o 3._o p._n 360._o viz._n that_o prayer_n imply_v either_o a_o total_a dependence_n upon_o god_n as_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a and_o so_o we_o ought_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o a_o address_n unto_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n to_o he_o who_o only_o can_v give_v what_o we_o ask_v and_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v still_o use_v by_o roman_a catholic_n when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n when_o therefore_o origen_n deny_v that_o our_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o any_o but_o to_o christ_n alone_o he_o speak_v of_o prayer_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n this_o be_v that_o catholic_n answer_n which_o upon_o all_o occasion_n he_o produce_v this_o origen_n and_o all_o the_o father_n mean_v very_o it_o be_v this_o and_o nothing_o else_o not_o that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o four_o first_o century_n when_o they_o so_o roundly_o and_o frequent_o assert_v that_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v unto_o god_n alone_o do_v ever_o thus_o distinguish_v or_o speak_v one_o title_n of_o this_o nature_n no_o simple_a creature_n as_o they_o be_v they_o absolute_o and_o without_o all_o distinction_n condemn_v what_o they_o daily_o practise_v and_o practise_v what_o they_o have_v condemn_v they_o all_o speak_v what_o be_v absolute_o false_a and_o mean_v only_o what_o be_v true_a so_o that_o no_o man_n can_v have_v imagine_v this_o to_o have_v be_v their_o meaning_n have_v not_o t._n g._n be_v their_o interpreter_n thus_o when_o origne_n express_o say_v 402._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 402._o it_o be_v no_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o pray_v unto_o the_o angel_n 258._o angel_n l._n 5._o p._n 258._o we_o must_v only_o pray_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n he_o nu_v affirm_v what_o be_v a_o plain_a and_o absolute_a contradiction_n to_o the_o church_n doctrine_n but_o then_o his_o meaning_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o contradictory_n to_o what_o he_o do_v assert_v when_o he_o add_v almost_o by_o way_n of_o syllogism_n to_o who_o we_o christian_n offer_v our_o first_o fruit_n to_o he_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n but_o to_o god_n alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o first_o fruit_n ergo_fw-la to_o he_o alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n when_o he_o inform_v we_o that_o the_o christian_n be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n but_o undivide_o and_o inseparable_o do_v worship_n god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n 382._o l._n 8._o p._n 382._o and_o come_v to_o god_n by_o christ_n alone_o and_o so_o as_o to_o transcend_v even_o those_o bless_a spirit_n which_o be_v call_v god_n he_o must_v apparent_o bely_v the_o christian_a world_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a interpretation_n of_o his_o word_n but_o his_o intention_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o yet_o 3._o he_o do_v not_o only_o deny_v the_o doctrine_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o he_o live_v but_o he_o destroy_v
the_o very_a ground_n and_o reason_n of_o that_o practice_n viz._n the_o benefit_n we_o may_v receive_v by_o put_v up_o request_n unto_o they_o and_o the_o concernment_n which_o lie_v upon_o we_o so_o to_o do_v in_o order_n to_o our_o preservation_n from_o all_o evil_a and_o the_o obtainment_n of_o the_o great_a blessing_n for_o he_o express_o tell_v we_o our_o care_n must_v be_v to_o get_v his_o favour_n who_o alone_o be_v god_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o inferior_a being_n he_o must_v know_v that_o all_o good_a spirit_n soul_n and_o angel_n if_o we_o do_v obtain_v god_n favour_n when_o we_o pray_v to_o he_o they_o need_v not_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n for_o they_o will_v pray_v together_o with_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o be_v call_v upon_o so_o to_o do_v this_o he_o do_v frequent_o repeat_v and_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o common_a language_n of_o those_o time_n he_o live_v in_o witness_v the_o like_a expression_n of_o arnobius_n 101._o arnobius_n in_o ho_o omne_fw-la quod_fw-la colendum_fw-la est_fw-la colimus_fw-la quod_fw-la adorari_fw-la convenit_fw-la adoramus_fw-la quod_fw-la obsequium_fw-la venerationis_fw-la exposcit_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la promeremur_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la tencamus_fw-la caput_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la ipsa_fw-la divinitas_fw-la divorum_fw-la omnium_fw-la quicunque_fw-la sunt_fw-la ducitur_fw-la supervacuum_fw-la putamus_fw-la personas_fw-la ire_n per_fw-la singulas_fw-la cum_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la qui_fw-la sint_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la habeant_fw-la nomina_fw-la nesciamus_fw-la &_o cujus_fw-la sint_fw-la praeterea_fw-la numeri_fw-la neque_fw-la liquidum_fw-la neque_fw-la comprehensum_fw-la neque_fw-la exploratum_fw-la habere_fw-la possimus_fw-la atque_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o terrestribus_fw-la regnis_fw-la necessitate_v nulla_fw-la compellimur_fw-la regalibus_fw-la in_o familiis_fw-la constitutos_fw-la nominatim_fw-la cum_fw-la principibus_fw-la adorare_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o regum_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la cultu_fw-la quicquid_fw-la illis_fw-la annexum_fw-la est_fw-la tacita_fw-la &_o se_fw-la sentit_fw-la honorificentia_fw-la comprehendi_fw-la non_fw-la alia_fw-la ratione_fw-la quicunque_fw-la hi_o dii_fw-la sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la esse_fw-la nobis_fw-la proponitis_fw-la fi_fw-la sint_fw-la progeny_n regius_fw-la &_o principali_fw-la oriuntur_fw-la è_fw-la capite_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la nullos_fw-la accipiant_fw-la nominatim_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la cultus_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la se_fw-la tamen_fw-la honorari_fw-la communiter_fw-la cum_fw-la svo_fw-la rege_fw-la atque_fw-la in_o illius_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la contineri_fw-la arnobius_n contra_fw-la gentes_fw-la lib._n 3_o p._n 101._o in_o worship_v the_o father_n and_o the_o lord_n of_o all_o thing_n we_o worship_v all_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v worship_v we_o adore_v all_o thing_n that_o may_v convenient_o be_v adore_v we_o venerate_v all_o that_o call_v for_o veneration_n for_o hold_v to_o the_o head_n from_o whence_o these_o divi_z borrow_v their_o divinity_n we_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o go_v to_o every_o person_n see_v we_o know_v not_o what_o they_o be_v what_o name_v they_o have_v or_o of_o what_o order_n they_o may_v be_v and_o as_o in_o honour_v the_o king_n we_o honour_v all_o that_o do_v belong_v unto_o he_o so_o what_o ever_o god_n you_o do_v propose_v unto_o we_o if_o they_o be_v of_o this_o kingly_a progeny_n and_o do_v belong_v unto_o this_o head_n although_o they_o do_v receive_v no_o worship_n from_o we_o they_o understand_v that_o they_o be_v worship_v together_o with_o their_o king_n and_o be_v include_v in_o that_o veneration_n which_o we_o pay_v to_o he_o 4._o this_o answer_n render_v the_o discourse_n of_o origen_n impertinent_a and_o a_o perfect_a declination_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o he_o and_o celsus_n for_o celsus_n thus_o dispute_v no_o god_n nor_o any_o son_n of_o god_n can_v possible_o descend_v from_o heaven_n but_o if_o you_o do_v assert_v this_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n these_o be_v no_o other_o than_o our_o daemon_n 23●_n orig._n l._n 7._o 5._o p._n 23●_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n return_v this_o answer_n 1._o that_o to_o deny_v that_o any_o god_n descend_v from_o heaven_n be_v to_o deny_v what_o be_v esteem_v a_o thing_n common_a by_o the_o heathen_a world_n 2._o that_o christian_n do_v indeed_o confess_v this_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o angel_n to_o come_v down_o from_o and_o to_o ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o to_o offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o man_n to_o god_n but_o yet_o say_v he_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n for_o all_o our_o prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n who_o be_v the_o live_a word_n and_o god_n which_o argument_n if_o it_o have_v any_o strength_n at_o all_o consist_v in_o this_o that_o whi●h_v you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o but_o angel_n you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n ergo_fw-la angel_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o this_o be_v that_o father_n plea_n to_o which_o t._n g._n may_v answer_v in_o behalf_n of_o celsus_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o apparent_o distinguish_v those_o angel_n both_o from_o god_n and_o from_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o they_o as_o to_o that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a but_o only_o as_o to_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o preside_v over_o such_o person_n family_n and_o country_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v content_v only_o that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o say_v unto_o they_o as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o st._n sebastian_n cerne_n familiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la behold_v thy_o family_n and_o to_o st._n gabriel_n preserve_v thy_o country_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n object_n that_o if_o with_o god_n we_o do_v adore_v his_o son_n then_o may_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d venerate_v his_o minister_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n reply_v that_o if_o 386._o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 8._o p._n 386._o celsus_n by_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n have_v understand_v gabriel_n and_o michael_n and_o other_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o have_v contend_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v venerate_v perpaps_o by_o purify_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o action_n of_o the_o venerator_n we_o may_v say_v something_o of_o that_o matter_n i.e._n perhaps_o some_o action_n which_o in_o some_o sense_n may_v bear_v the_o name_n of_o veneration_n may_v be_v perform_v to_o those_o angel_n this_o t._n g._n think_v a_o great_a advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n and_o wonder_n that_o the_o doctor_n will_v produce_v this_o passage_n but_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v the_o clear_a confutation_n of_o it_o that_o we_o can_v desire_v for_o have_v grant_v this_o and_o then_o restrain_v our_o petition_n unto_o god_n the_o father_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o express_o do_v he_o most_o apparent_o demonstrate_v that_o prayer_n can_v be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o forementioned_a service_n he_o allow_v to_o saint_n 2._o in_o that_o he_o thus_o distinguish_v of_o veneration_n and_o never_o do_v distinguish_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n of_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n or_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la est_fw-la of_o adoration_n and_o worship_n it_o follow_v that_o although_o he_o think_v some_o veneration_n may_v be_v allow_v to_o angel_n in_o some_o inferior_a kind_n yet_o no_o petition_n be_v to_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o they_o and_o that_o no_o worship_n and_o adoration_n shall_v be_v give_v unto_o they_o 3._o when_o origen_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o passage_n say_v ibid._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ibid._n we_o christian_n venerate_a with_o supplication_n only_a god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n and_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a son_n if_o he_o do_v understand_v only_o such_o supplication_n as_o be_v make_v to_o he_o as_o to_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a he_o be_v as_o vain_a and_o impertinent_a as_o t._n g._n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o dr._n for_o celsus_n only_o do_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o worship_n and_o consequent_o for_o such_o address_n only_o as_o agree_v unto_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n 4._o origen_n plain_o do_v inform_v we_o that_o the_o veneration_n he_o allow_v to_o angel_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 416._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 8._o p._n 416._o to_o speak_v well_o of_o they_o and_o pronounce_v they_o bless_v and_o imitate_v to_o their_o virtue_n and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o supplication_n 3._o celsus_n object_n that_o daemon_n do_v belong_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o and_o