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A89824 An answer to a book called The Quakers catechism, put out by Richard Baxter. Wherein the slanderer is searched, his questions answered, and his deceit discovered, whereby the simple have been deceived: and the popery proved in his own bosom, which he would cast upon the Quakers. Published for the sake of all who desire to come out of Babylon, to the foundation of the true prophets and apostles, where Christ Iesus is the light and corner stone; where God is building a habitation of righteousness and everlasting peace; where the children of light do rest. Also some quæries for the discovering the false grounds of the literal preist-hood of these days, in the last times of antichrist. If you know the truth, the truth shall make you free. / Iames Nailor. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing N258; Thomason E851_1; ESTC R207416 51,999 51

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said and did not professed God but brought forth the works of the Devil and the depth of their ignorance and height of pride brake out so aboundantly in their practise that all that were not utterly blind might see it and it was the practise of Christ and his Ministers to declare these openly to be hypocrites lyars children of the devill serpents vipers and much the like and they did not herein accuse the brethren nor Godly Ministers nor godly people but such as walked contrary to God and to speak the same words to the same generation that are found in the same works by the same spirit is the same to God as it was then and the same to that generation who are found in their works if not prove thou when it was changed else thou art the accuser of the brethren and that falsly qu. 9. Is it no kinde of blasphemy of the Holy Ghost for such WRETCHES when they have powred out the most horrid LYES SLANDERS RAILINGS and false Doctrines to profess solemnly that all this is from the Spirit of Christ within them and make God and his holy Spirit the pater of all Ans To be found in the same practise that Christ and his Ministers 〈◊〉 ● 44. was found in bearing witness against the same things is no railing slandring nor no false Doctrine being done from the Spirit of Christ within them is no blasphemy against the Holy Ghost but obedience to it and in thee who knows not Gods holy Spirit to be the author and patern of all thy author and patern is the Devil where God is not the Author and Father the works begotten and brought forth by him such are of your father the devill and his works you do this is that Spirit I told thee of before who denies God to be thy author and paterne the author and fini●her of our faith and works so must we needs be contrary the one to the other both in judgment and practise as far a Christ and Belial as in our measures we have received him who is the faithfull witness in all Generations against those wayes you now live in qu. 10. Can that man that hath one spark of Grace believe that he hath no sin c. Ans I say by grace we are saved which we have received of God which teacheth us to speak the truth by which truth we are set free so far as we know him and so far we declare our freedome according 2 Cor. 4. 10. to our measures and he that sees himselfe set free from all sin by that Gal. 2. 20. power and brought wholly unto Christ where there is no sin selfe-shame 1 Iob. 8. 5 6. the body of sin put off and nothing living in him but the life of Christ if he declare this to his praise he is no lyar and if such an one abide in Christ he sinneth not neither doth such an one say he hath no knowledg of Christ nor need of the Physician nor that he wil not be beholding to him for his blood or to make intercession neither doth he deny that he hath sinned but confesses to his praise who hath him cleansed according to his measure nor is this to say he wil not be beholding to God any more who stands by faith in his power and is beholding to him daylie and to his blood dayly which as it hath washed so keeps pure from horrid railing slandering and other wickedness thy swearing and drinking thou speaks on and this is to confess Christ come in the flesh the just man on the earth that doth good and sins not who is greater then Solomon and such deny the Pharisees and Papists and all that justifie themselves are Lyars before him and to Heb. 7. 19. him Solomon confessed though the Law made not perfect yet he doth all that come to him and so presents them to the father and this is Isa 59. 19. our standart against the enemy that would overflow us which the hireling knows not whos 's the sheep are not nor their pasture who are not wretched nor under the power of the deceiver which things thou would charge upon us qu. 11. Whether those that deny Scripture to be Gods Word as these quakers do and deny that there is any such person as Jesus Christ which suffered at Jerusalem now glorified in Heaven in the humane nature and only cals somwhat that is within themselves by the name of Christ I say whether are not these abominable infidells having nothing to do with the name of Christians Ans That we deny the person of Jesus who suffered at Ierusalem now glorified in Heaven in his body is a lying slander but thou that denies God to be the word and sayes the Letter is the Word art ignorant both of the word and Scriptures as plainly they shall witness a-against thee which sayes God is the word and the word of God is the Ioh. 1. Name of Iesus as the Scripture declareth but never takes that name Rev. 19. 11. to its selfe And the word of God endures for ever and this is the word 1 Pet. 1. 25. which by the Gospel is preached which is not the Letter and thou that knowest not the Letter within thee art the Infidel and Reprobate 2 Cor. 13. 5. thou speaks on who hath nothing to do with the name of a Christian who art adding thy lyes and slanders as though only we limited Christ within us because we witness him in us so with the Scripture thou art proved to be ignorant of them and the power of God from which they were written qu. 12. Is it not damnable hypocrisie in the wretches to prate so much of Scripture and call for Scripture while they thus deny it to be Gods word Ans In this query thou shews thy confusion one while charging us to prate too much of Scriptures and call for Scriptures and yet thy end is to make people believe that we deny Scriptures because we will not own the Scriptures by the name of Christ who is called the word of God and in thy seeking occasion to slander but can finde none thou shews thy damnable hypocrisie and wretchedness denies both the Word and Scripture que 13. Is it not damnable hypocrisie in them to call themselves Christians when they are infidells and deny the person of Christ crucified to be in Heaven Ans It is damnable hypocrisie and wickedness for thee to continue thylying saying that we deny the person of Christ cruc●fied to be in 2 Cor. 13. 5. Heaven and thou thy self art the infidell who cannot believe Jesus Christ in the Saints but calls it a thing within us but canst not own it by the name of Christ as in thy 11 query and that faith is Reprobate Ioh. 5. 10. and thou that knows not Christ in thee art the Infidell for he that believes hath the witness in himself qu. 14. Is not he a Pagan and no christian
in his stead so art thou drawing downward as fast as thou canst but sayes thou the whole man in Scripture is taken for ●an the cause of life dye or be defiled the soul so by thy opinion the man is the cause of life so thou hast shewed what life thou lives and what thou knows of the soul yet thou wilt ask more queries though resolve none and first thou begins to wrangle with the command of Christ that forbids thy master-hood saying is not many words in the Scriptures translated master of as low and humble importance as ruler I say the words of Christ was ever in the way of the Hirelings and Pharisees and Priests and their pride but they could not get them removed though they was vext at them and would not have them applyed to them no more than thou but let his words alone thou must not wrest them out of their place and power thou canst not bow them but must bow to them they was given to break thee and thy pride and not to be broken by thee nor thy teachings 2 qu. Thou sayes if God bid people obey you as Rulers and the quakers perswade people to reject you as Serpents c. which is to be obeyed God or the quakers and whether is the Spirit of God or of the Devil the quakers speaks by I say God did never bid people obey Hirelings and such as are out of the Doctrine of Christ as you a●e but the Spirit of God called such Serpents and so doth now which is not the Spirit of the Devil as the Devil would slander it to be both Mat. 23. 33. then and now you being now found in the same practise are reproved with the same spirit 3. qu. Thou asks Is it the Ministers or quakers that have the rule over people and wait for the good of souls I say the quakers abhors such rule as you bear and for the good of souls thou must first know what the soul is before thou can watch for the good of it nay thou watches to destroy souls for dishonest gain hirelings was never souls shepheards 4. qu. Thou sayes if the present Pastors be not true Ministers tell you who are and where you may find them and where they have been from Christ til now I say those are true ministers and ever was who wandred to and fro having no certain dwelling place of whom the world was not worthy who ever bore witness against the false Prophets that bear rule by their means and the Priests that preached for hire and the people that loved to have it so and whose manner was to go into the Synagogues and Idols temples to disprove the hirelings false worship and call people from them to the true shepheard and you may find many of these in the most prisons of the nation for so doing by your means against whom we are sent to witness and these have been banished to and fro since the mystery of iniquity and the popish priesthood was set up into corners but now are come to light to witness against the mystery of iniquity therefore do the heathen rage the man of sin and all his ministers because his end is near 5. qu. Thou asks if it will be for the peoples profit to despise their Teachers and guides I say you who have despised Christs commands to set up your own lusts and pride covetousness and false-worship must be despised and when such guides are discovered then shal the people profit when they come to be guided with that spirit God hath given to every man to profit withall which thou wil keep them from as long as you can that you may fil up your measure and wrath come upon you to the uttermost being captivated by the Devil soul and body the God of this world having blinded the eye so that the Gospell 2 Cor. 4. is hid from you and you lost letting up the Letter instead of it having denyed the light and erred from it are got up into hardness of heart imprisoning beating and making havock like mad beasts what ever the Devill did where he reigned so do you being the head of the Serpent which Christ is come to bruise as he did in his own person so he is the same for ever to the same brood who now are found in the same bloody plots against the seed of God worse than ever any seeking the lives of others for practising that in life which your selves wil preach in words for money ●uch a generation of raging beasts was never yet in the world who seek to devour on every side you and who departs from sin is your prey the greatest deceivers thatever yet come now when you come to be revealed who would have bel●eved that you who have had so many millions of pounds for teaching people to forsake sin and now if any declare that he hath forsaken it and is set free you preach it down as the most dangerous error that ever was and cry out to drunckards swearers thieves and murderers and whoremongers come not near them least you be deceived and now get up more money for preaching up sin while the world stands than you took for preaching it down yet if we tel you you are bringing people into Covenant with the Devil for tear● of life you say we rail on you when you have be got the faith of that Covenant in the whole nation ask any that ever believes your teaching if they believe that Christ i● able to redeem them from committing sin in this world and presently they are ready to give an account of their faith nay none can be free he●e but when they are dead in another world they shall ●o the faith and covenant is sutable for no less time then till men can sin no longer and if any have broke this Covenant through the righteous Covenant they are ready to stone him yet least thou should be seen in this filth you cast a mist before the simple saying you must strive after perfection and freedom and purity and to be set free from sin but once knowing that unbeliefe is in the bottome there is little danger of freedome for the Devil whose work you are doing knows fulwel that if he can but have people to believe they cannot be free he knows they are safe with him for ever comming at it no faith no obtaining according to every mans faith so shall it be unto them and that striving which is not in faith to obtain is selfe-righteousness but Heb. 7 25. who believes that Christ is able to save to the uttermost all that come to God by him shall see it so but this the blind knows not who would have believed that these Priess that now is had been the greatest persecutors that ever was before them who have preached so long against it but say you this persecution of ours is not as theirs was they persecuted Christ and such as he sent but these are wandrers