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A65842	A brief discovery of the dangerous principles of John Horne (a priest in Lin) and Thomas Moore junior both teachers of the people called Mooreians or Manifestarians, (and called by some free-willers or independants.) In answer to their book called A brief discovery of the people called Quakers, and a warning to all people to beware of them and of their dangerous principles, &c. Which book is a false narrative of two disputes, the one which they had with John Whitehead at Gedney in Lincoln-shire, and the other with Geo. Whitehead and Geo. Fox the younger, at Lin in Norfolke, both in the seventh moneth, 1659. Also priest Horns testimony against his brethren the priests. This is to go amonst the professors in England in discovery of the truth; ... By the truth which is in George Whitehead. John Whitehead. George Fox the younger.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Whitehead, John, 1630-1696. aut; Fox, George, d. 1661. aut	1659 (1659)	Wing W1896; ESTC R220960	30,510	44

equivocal terms Answ. They have changed G. Foxes words for he said That which is raised is a spiritual body and that which is raised was dead and we answered them plainly to these things according to the Scriptures but like fools whom the Apostle reproved they would not be satisfied when we told them it is sown a natural body it is raised a spiritual body and receives life and spirit by the Power of God there is a natural body and there is a spiritual body howbeit that was not first which is spiritual but that which is natural and afterward that which is spiritual so the Apostle distinguisheth between the natural body and the spiritual body between the earthly bodies and the heavenly bodies and the glories of each and doth not say that which dyes or is sown which is earthly shall rise as we told these said accusers according to the Apostles comparison thou fool that which thou sowest is not quickned except it dye and that which thou sowest thou sowest not that body that shall be mark thou sowest not that body that shall be but bear grain it may chance of wheat or of some other grain 1 Cor. 15. 36 37. contrary to which they have affirmed that the same body that dyes or is sown in the earth shall raise again when the Apostle saith thou sowest not that body that shall be and his comparison is of the grain of wheat and the like to which Thomas Moor answered That the same kirnel of wheat rose up again in the blade when it is known that the same kirnel doth not rise but another body or ear of Corn grows forth in the nature of that wch is sown yet we say that God giveth a body as it pleaseth him to every seed his own body which seeds being known the nature and kind of each seed discerned the body of each may be discerned in the Resurrection by the light wch crosseth mens carnal imaginations by which they must never know the Mystery of the Resurrection of the bodies nor the seeds wch the Lord knoweth how to reserve every one in its own center and habitation till the sounding of the last Trumpet at the last day and there shall be a Resurrection both of the just and the unjust and many that sleep in the dust of the earth shall rise some shall come forth to the Resurrection of life and others to the Resurrection of Condemnation every one to be rewarded according to their works and John said The Sea gave up the dead which were in it and death and Hell delivered up the dead which were in them they were Judged every man according to their works death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life Rev. 2. And now this being an answer to their Question about the Resurrection note that when Thomas Moor was asked what was the seed of which the Apostle said God giveth it a body as it pleaseth him Tho. Moor answered that the seed was the body that dyes or is laid in the ground which he pleaded for the rising of to which it was Replyed then that every man must rise with two bodies if that body that is terrestrial must rise and have another body given it but herein his ignorance was seen and again he and John Horn have confuted themselves for in their Post-script they say That the Apostle implying plainly that the raised body in the Resurrection shall not be flesh and blood Then how is it that they have pleaded so much for the same earthly body that dies to rise again which is a body of flesh and blood when the raised body in the Resurrection is not a body of flesh and blood they say these men are much shut up in Babylon as their confusion manifests An accusation of John Horn and Tho. Moor against John Whitehead to prove him a Reprobate p. 6. Is that John argued against the Redemption of the body to be waited for or expected after death and said The Apostle had it before the death of the body and in p. 10. They tell of the nature or being of man that in the Resurrection it is discharged of sin and Law and death Answ. So here they expect not the Redemption of the body nor their discharge from sin till after death wherein they have discovered themselves to be Reprobates and not John Whitehead and their expecting the Redemption of the body to be waited for after death is contrary to the Saints expectations for they waited and groaned for the Redemption of the body from under corruption when they were upon earth and the Creature it self was to be brought into the glorious liberty of the Sons of God which state was witnessed by as many as were led by the Spirit of God who were sanctified throughout in Body in Soul and Spirit and put not Redemption afar off till after death as these men aforementioned have done Again They have accused us for Antichristians from a passage in Edward Burroughs Book where it is said That Christ is to be known after the Spirit as he was before the world was and that is the knowledge of him which is to eternal Salvation On the contrary they have affirmed in page 7. That the knowledge of Christ after the Spirit as he was before the world was is not the knowledge of him to eternal Salvation but on the contrary they say Answ. In this they have shewed themselves to be both abusers of the Truth and Antichristians for to know Christ as he is the power of God is to know him after the Spirit as he was before the world was and this is the knowledge of him to Eternal Salvation it is the Power of God that saveth and we trust in the living God who is the Saviour of all men specially of them that believe 1 Tim. 4. 10. Now as Christ is the living God he was before the world was and we are in him that is true even in his Son Jesus Christ this is the true God and eternal life 1 John 5. 20. And now I say they that receive this knowledge of Christ do not deny his knowledge in his flesh but witness to the same eternal Power that was manifest in his flesh and thorow his sufferings which Power was before the world was and hath the same glory that it had then and is the same for ever And in page 7. it is said against the Quakers That they can and may in their canting language say he is manifest in England and is persecuted and dyes and rises as well as in Judea and Jerusalem however they make nothing of his being born suffering and dying in the flesh Answ. Now when J. Horn and T. Moor can truly prove nothing against us called Quakers they have invented these wicked lyes against us which we utterly deny and here charge them for forgers of lyes Job 13. 4. for we never

they say that we said the same body that suffered was glorified at Gods right hand in heaven yet still they say we meant but his Church either by his body or by the heavens and then they charge it upon us as a fundamental error Answ. Now they that discerne the body of Christ may see how these wise men of Babylon have confounded and stifled themselves in their own confusion one while saying that we would not be drawn to answer their question another while confessing that we said the same body that suffered was glorified at Gods right hand in heaven and now when they can get nought against our words they charge us ignorantly with what we meant and here it appears they hold that Christ hath two bodies in telling of a mystical body and not receiving that as an answer that his body is the Church the fulness of him that filleth all in all so that from their words they would have Christ to have a body besides or distinct from the fulness of God when as the Scripture doth not say that Christ hath two bodies nor that his body is a body of flesh and bones without the blood in it in the Heavens as John Horne and Thomas Moore have told us for its not proper to say that a body of flesh and bones is in the Heavens as if it were in many places at once for Heavens are more then one and the body is one and hath many members 1 Cor. 12. 12. and this body is not carnal but spiritual which they who were carnal as these men are could not discern though the outward bodies of believers they might discern and yet this body of Christ is discerned by the believers who are led by the Spirit of God and its in the heavens above the clouds which they who are gazing abroad and looking carnally to see Christ they discern not the Lords body for they see not thorow the Clouds into the Heavens so Christ is taken out of their sight But Stephen who was full of the Holy Ghost saw the heavens opened and the Son of man on the right hand of his Father and John in the spirit saw into heaven and a door opened in heaven and Christs body is not distinct from the spirits of all men as it is distinct from carnal bodies as you imagine by your Question for the just men who are come unto mount Zion where the Lamb Reigneth in his glory I say their spirits rejoyce in him and the true Church in Christ which discerneth his body in his fulness is but one compleat body in the fulness of God which filleth all in all both in Heaven and Earth though you imagine two bodies of Christ And this know that what the Scriptures do declare of Christ and his body we own and the same that descended into the lower parts of the Earth is he that Ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things the same Christ that suffered in the body at Jerusalem who appeared in divers forms after his Resurrection and in the transfiguration before the same rose again and was taken in his Ascending out of the sight of them that gazed after him and is glorified in the same glory which he had with the Father before the world was John 17 and as he who is the Word became flesh so when the dayes of his flesh were finished he was translated into his own glory which he had with his Father from Eternity and so the second Adam is a quickening spirit and his body is spiritual not discerned by you whose minds are out from his spirit neither can his glory by which he was transfigured and is glorified be seen but by them who pass thorow death and follow him into the mount And now you who so much contend about the body of Christ we ask you this Question whether do you believe that the body of Christ which the Saints upon earth do discern and which the world cannot discern is a body of flesh and bones in the Heavens yea or nay seeing you own the believers or the Church to be a body of Christ and plead for another body of Christ distinct from them John Horn and Thomas Moore p. 5. Say that believers are members of his body namely his mystical body of his flesh and of his bones not flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone Answ. This is grosse confusion to say that believers are members of Christs flesh and bones and then to say they are not flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone as if Christ had two bodies of flesh and bones one of which the Saints are not members when the Apostle saith as much as they were flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone in his saying no man ever hated his own flesh but nourisheth it and cherisheth it even as the Lord the Church for we are members of his body of his flesh of his bones Eph. 5. 30. J. Horn Tho. Moore bring 1 Thes. 4. 15. 16. and Phil. 3. 20. 21. where it is said Christ shall descend from Heaven not from but to his Church say they yea this of the Quakers denying that body glorified doth at once turn up by the roots all the faith of Christs appearing in the presence of God to mediate for us Ans Was there ever the like confusion and falshood uttere'd as these men do appear in a little before they say of the Quakers that they said the same body that suffered was glorified at Gods right hand in Heaven and now charge us with denying that body glorified it were well they would be ashamed of their lies and confusion and as for that 1 Thes. 4. 15. Concerning the coming of the Lord from Heaven which these men aforesaid would blindly put afar of as to a coming of Christ with flesh and bones the Apostle saith we which are alive remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are a sleep so that coming of Christ the Saints who then were alive remained unto it and in that of Phil. 3. 20. 21. there it is said our conversation is in Heaven from whence also we look for the Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ so their conversation was in Heaven and there they looked for the Saviour they did not say their conversation was at a distance off above the Clouds from whence you look for a Christ like your selves but that he hath no blood in his body as you imagine whom we desire not the knowledge of and that your Faith which is not grounded in Christs appearing in you is to be turned up by the roots Again J. Horn and T. Moor do accuse us to be Reprobate concerning the Faith touching the Resurrection of the dead as chiefly they accuse us for affirming that the same body that dyes shall not be raised again and that George Fox would not be brought to say whether the spiritual body was ever dead but answered in general

in one Nature and it is not safer for the Sheep as ye have falsely said to abide with the one then the other for neither of them cares for the Sheep no further then to make a prey upon them and all such we bear a Testimony against being redeemed out of their Nature and it is the will of Christ that his sheep should leave the hirelings for they care not for the Sheep and that they should follow him and hear his voice and Christs sheep do so they hear Christs voice who have called them from the Hirelings and Strangers and their voices they will not regard And such as Christ sends to feed his Sheep in the Pastors of Israel they are no Hirelings as ye foolishly imagine but they have freely received and they freely give and such are not greedy of filthy lucre neither do they rèceive Tithes by a corrupt unjust Law made by Apostates as thou John Horn dost but they do what they do of a willing and a ready mind and are not hired to it for a certain sum but such if they have not of their own may and do receive Food and Rayment of such as receive them and their Testimony and this is according to the Apostles Doctrine and is owned and practised amongst us the Servants of the Lord called Quakers whom ye in your rayling lying accusations liken unto Foxes and Wolves but your words shall become your own burthen and with the Spirit of the Lord we see you in the devouring beastly Nature which the Lord is against and will rent J. Horn T. Moor the people are too generally guilty too and lay themselves open to these delusions and deluders because too generally they neglect Christ and his Truth take no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulnesse formality covetousnesse pride and vanity in apparel and in many other things by which means they are in danger to perish whether they keep out of these mens snares or falls into them howbeit they are exposed to their snares thereby because they afford the deceivers matter to work upon can find many faults in them many things to accuse them of though some things that God never charged them with before these men came set themselves Masters but in many things really evil they have too great advantage and mens consciences by the effect of the law in them which is not Christ bearing witnesse that they say true in those things that they fault them in Answ. Here it is manifest by your own words that ye are the false Prophets that have not profited the people that notwithstanding all your Preachings the people still neglect Christ and his Truth and take no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulness formality covetousnesse pride and vanity in apparel and in many other things and are in danger to perish whether they come after us or not as ye confess so it is clear to all that have any understanding that ye have not stood in the Counsel of God for if you had then you should have turned the people that had received your Doctrine from the evil of their way and from the evil of their doings Ier. 23. but People have long received you and your Doctrine and yet live in their evil wayes Therefore be ashamed and stop your mouths ye Hypocrites who also speaks against covetousnesse pride and vanitie in apparel in the People and of their neglect of Christ and his Truth when many of you their Teachers are found in covetousnesse Pride and vanity in apparel wearing your Cuffs and Ribbands and White Boot-hose-tops and Teaching for Tithes and Gifts and Rewards and most of these in particular thou Iohn Horn art guilty of and in the twentieth page of your Book ye confesse your selves to be guilty of the neglect of Christ the salvation of God and the abuse of his truth so here it is plain that wherein ye have judged others ye have condemned your selves Rom. 2. 1. and made it appear that you are like Priests like People Hos. 4. 9. and we whom the Lord have redeemed out of the vanity and wickednesse of this world do judge you for your wickednesse and bear our Testimony against it in that which hath redeemed us from it and although we are counted by you to be deceivers when we judge you for your wickednesse yet the Lord owns our judging of you because it is in that which answereth the effect of his Righteous Law in mens consciences which beareth witnesse that we speak true as you our enemies are made to confesse And it was the Ministers of Christ that were manifested to Peoples consciences in the sight of God and not the deceivers for the effect of the Law in people where it was witnessed or was did not nor do not cause their consciences to bear witness to the deceivers Doctrine but against it so it is manifest that you judge contrary to the effect of the Law who have judged them to be deceivers whom mens consciences by the effect of the Law in them beareth witnesse unto And the Law in men which witnesseth unto the truth and against sin is light and it is the Law of the Spirit of Life which is in Christ Jesus which freeth those that believe and walk in it from the power of sin and death but those that believe not in it but hate it it beareth witness against them and their evil deeds and remains their condemnation and it is you that have set your selves masters and not we who exercise Lordship one over another and have mens persons in admiration and respect mens persons and calls and are called of men Masters contrary to Christs Doctrine but we although we be the Lords free men yet we are become servants unto many in the truth Ministring and labouring for the gathering of the scattered Seed John Horn Thomas Moore They to get a partie as the Jesuits do exposing themselves to some abuses and sufferings from the rude people make themselves more like Chri●is Ministers to the simple people Answ. We indeed suffer much for righteousness sake and for bearing our testimony against unrighteousness and you who are Teachers oft causeth our sufferings to be the greater by your lying and railing against us thereby stirring up the rude people to abuse us even as your forefathers the Priests and Pharisees did who stirred up the rude people against our Master Christ and his servants in former dayes for which the Lord will assuredly reward you in righteousness But we will in all things approve our selves as the Ministers of God in much patience in affliction in necessitie in distresses in stripes in imprisonments in tumults c. 2 Cor. 6 and our lives are not dear unto us but are freely given up to serve the living God in spreading his living truth and it is for no other end God is our witness though ye wickedly judge otherwise And then John Horn and Thomas Moore goes about to shew the cause why and how the