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A66445 The blovdy tenent, of persecution, for cause of conscience, discussed, in a conference betweene trvth and peace vvho, in all tender affection, present to the high court of Parliament, as the result of their discourse, these, amongst other passages, of highest consideration. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.; Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1644 (1644) Wing W2758; ESTC R2405 232,471 275

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Unto both these Scriptures it pleaseth him thus to answer Both these are directions to Ministers of the Gospel how to deale not with obstinate offendors in the Church who sin against conscience but either with men without as the Samaritanes were and many unconverted Christians in Creet whom Titus as an Evangelist was to seek to convert Ot at best with some Iewes or Gentiles in the Church who though carnall yet were not convinced of the errour of their way And it is true it became not the Spirit of the Gospel to convert Aliens to the Faith such as the Samaritanes were by fire and brimstone nor to deale harshly in publicke Ministery or private conference with all such severall minded men as either had not yet entred into Church fellowship or if they had did hitherto sin of ignorance not against Conscience But neither of both these Texts doe hinder the Minister of the Gospel to proceed in a Church way against Church members when they become scandalous offenders either in life o● doctrine much lesse doe they speake at all to the Civill Magistrate CHAP. XXXVII Truth THis perplexed and ravelled Answer wherein so many things and so doubtfull are wrapt up and intangled together I shall take in pieces First concerning that of the Lord Iesus rebuking his Disciples for their rash and ignorant bloudy zeale Luc. 9. desiring corporall destruction upon the Samaritanes for refusing the Lord Iesus c. the Answerer affirmeth that hindreth not the Ministers of the Gospell to proceed in a Church way against scandalous offenders which is not here questioned but maintained to bee the holy will of the Lord and a sufficient censure and punishment if no civill offence against the Civill State be committed Secondly saith hee Much lesse doth this speake at all to the Civill Magistrate Where I observe that he implyes that beside the censure of the Lord Iesus in the hands of his spirituall governours for any spirituall evill in life or doctrine the Civill Magistrate is also to inflict corporall punishment upon the contrary minded whereas First if the Civill Magistrate be a Christian a Disciple or follower of the meeke Lambe of God he is bound to be far from destroying the bodies of men for refusing to receive the Lord Iesus Christ for otherwise hee should not know according to this speech of the Lord Iesus what spirit he was of yea and to be ignorant of the sweet end of the comming of the Son of Man which was not to destroy the bodies of Men but to save both bodies and soules vers 55. 56. Secondly if the Civill Magistrate being a Christian gifted prophesie in the Church 1 Corinth 1. 14. although the Lord Iesus Christ whom they in their owne persons hold forth shall be refused yet they are here forbidden to call for fire from heaven that is to procure or inflict any corporall judgement upon such offenders remembring the end of the Lord Iesus his comming not to destroy mens lives but to save them Lastly this also concernes the conscience of the Civill Magistrate as he is bound to preserve the civill peace and quiet of the place and people under him he is bound to suffer no man to breake the Civill Peace by laying hands of violence upon any though as vile as the Samaritanes for not receiving of the Lord Iesus Christ. It is indeed the ignorance and blinde zeale of the second Beast the false Prophet Rev. 13. 13. to perswade the civill Powers of the earth to persecute the Saints that is to bring fiery judgements upon men in a judiciall way and to pronounce that such judgements of imprisonment banishment death proceed from Gods righteous vengeance upon such Hereticks So dealt divers Bishops in France and England too in Queene Maries dayes with the Saints of God at their putting to death declaiming against them in their Sermons to the people and proclaiming that these persecutions even unto death were Gods just judgements from heaven upon these Heretickes CHAP. XXXVIII Peace DOubtlesse such fiery spirits as the Lord Jesus said are not of God I pray speake to the second place out of Timothy 2. Epist. 25. 26. Truth I acknowledge this instruction to be meeke and patient c. is properly an instruction to the Ministers of the Gospel Yet divers Arguments from hence will truly and fairly be collected to manifest and evince how farre the civill Magistrate ought to bee from dealing with the civill sword in spirituall cases And first by the way● I desire to aske What were these unconverted Christians in Crete which the Answerer compareth with the Samaritanes whom Titus saith he as an Evangelist was to seek to convert and whether the Lord Iesus have any such Disciples and Followers who yet are visibly in an unconverted estate O that it may please the Father of mercies the Father of lights to awaken and open the eyes of all that feare before him that they may see whether this be the Language of Canaan or the Language of Ashdod What is an unconverted Christian but in truth an unconverted Convert that is in English one unturned turned unholy holy Disciples or Followers of Iesus not following of him In a word that is Christians or anointed by Christ Antichristians not anointed with the Spirit of Iesus Christ. Certaine it is such they were not unto whom the Spirit of God gives that name Act. 11. And indeed whither can this tend but to uphold the blasphemy of so many as say they are Iewes that is Christians but are not Rev. 2. But as they are not Christians from Christ but from the Beast and his Picture so their proper name from Antichrist is Antichristians How sad yet and how true an evidence is this that the soule of the Answerer I speake not of his inward soule and person but of his worship hath never yet heard the call of the Lord Iesus to come out from those unconverted Churches from that unconverted Antichristian Christian world and so from Antichrist Belial to seeke fellowship with Christ Iesus and his converted Christians Disciples after the first patterne Againe I observe the haste and light attention of the Answerer to these Scriptures as commonly the spirits of Gods children in matters of Christs Kingdome are very sleepy for these persons here spoken of were not as he speakes unconverted Christians in Crete whom Titus as an Evangelist was to convert but they were such opposites as Timothy to whom Paul writes this Letter at Ephesus should meet withall CHAP. XXXIX Peace BUt what is there in this Scripture of Timothy alledged concerning the civill Magistracy Truth I argue from this place of Timothy in particular thus First if the civill Magistrates hee Christians or members of the Church able to prophesie in the Church of Christ then I say as before they are bound by this command of Christ to suffer opposition to their doctrine with meeknesse and gentlenesse and to
which other Scriptures abundantly prove but to make it cleare against the Answerers allegation that even in the civill State permission of notorious evill doers even against the civill State is not disapproved by God himselfe and the wisest of his servants in its season CHAP. LV. Truth I Proceed Hence it is that some Generals of Armies and Governours of Cities Townes c. doe and as those former instances prove lawfully permit some evill persons and practices As for instance in the civill State Vsury for the preventing of a greater evill in the civill Body as stealing robbing murthering perishing of the poore and the hindrance or stop of commerce and dealing in the Commonwealth Just like Physicians wisely permitting noysome humours and sometimes diseases when the cure or purging would prove more dangerous to the destruction of the whole a weake or crazy body and specially at such a time Thus in many other instances it pleased the Father of lights the God of Israel to permit that people especially in the matter of their demand of a King wherein he pleaded that himselfe as well as Samuel was rejected This ground to wit for a common good of the whole is the same with that of the Lord Iesus commanding the Tares to be permitted in the World because otherwise the good wheat should be indangered to be rooted up out of the Field or World also as well as the ares and therefore for the good sake the Tares which are indeed evill were to be permitted Yea and for the generall good of the whole world the field it selfe which for want of this obedience to that command of Christ hath beene and is laid waste and desolate with the fury and rage of civill War professedly raised and maintained as all States professe for the maintenance of one true Religion after the patterne of that typicall land of Canaan and to suppresse and pluck up these Tares of false Prophets and false Professors Antichristians Heretickes c. out of the world Hence illae lachrymae hence Germanies Irelands and now Englands teares and dreadfull desolations which ought to have beene and may bee for the future by obedience to the command of the Lord Iesus concerning the permission of Tares to live in the world though not in the Church I say ought to have beene and may bee mercifully prevented CHAP. LVI Peace I Pray descend now to the second evill which you observe in the Answerers position viz. that it would bee evill to tolerate notorious evill doers seducing teachers c. Truth I say the evill is that he most improperly and confusedly joynes and couples seducing teachers with scandalous livers Peace But is it not true that the world is full of seducing teachers and is it not true that seducing teachers are notorious evill doers Truth I answer far be it from me to deny either and yet in two things I shall discover the great evill of this joyning and coupling seducing teachers and scandalous livers as one adaequate or proper object of the Magistrates care and worke to suppresse and punish First it is not an Homogeneall as we speake but an Heterogeneall commixture or joyning together of things most different in kindes and natures as if they were both of one consideration For who knowes not but that many seducing teachers either of the Paganish Iewish Turkish or Antichristian Religion may be clear and free from scandalous offences in their life as also from disobedience to the Civill Lawes of a State Yea the Answerer himselfe hath elsewhere granted that if the Lawes of a Civill State be not broken the Peace is not broken Againe who knowes not that a seducing teacher properly sinnes against a Church or Spirituall estate and Lawes of it and therefore ought most properly and onely to bee dealt withall in such a way and by such weapons as the Lord Iesus himselfe hath appointed gainsayers opposites and disobedients either within his Church or without to be convinced repelled resisted and slaine withall Whereas scandalous offendours against Parents against Magistrates in the 5 Command and so against the life chastity goods or good name in the rest is properly transgression against the Civill State and Commonweale or the worldly state of Men And therefore consequently if the World or Civill State ought to be preserved by Civill Government or Governours such scandalous effendours ought not to be tolerated but supprest according to the wisdome and prudence of the said Government Secondly as there is a fallacious conjoying and confounding together persons of severall kindes and natures differing as much as Spirit and Flesh Heaven and Earth each from other So is there a silent and implicite justification to all the unrighteous and cruell proceedings of Iews and Gentiles against all the Prophets of God the Lord Iesus Himselfe and all His Messengers and Witnesses whom their Accusers have ever so coupled and mixed with notorious evill doers and scandalous livers Elijah was a troubler of the State Ieremy weakned the hand of the people yea Moses made the people neglect their worke the Iewes built the Rebellious and bad City the three Worthies regarded not the command of the King Christ Iesus deceived the people was a conjurer and a traytor against Caesar in being King of the ●ewes indeed He was so spiritually over the true Jew the Christian therefore He was numbred with notorious evill doers and nailed to the Gallowes between two Malefactours Hence Paul and all true Messengers of Iesus Christ are esteemed seducing and seditious teachers and turners of the World upside downe Yea and to my knowledge I speake with honourable respect to the Answerer so far as he hath laboured for many Truths of Christ the Answerer himselfe hath drunke of this cup to be esteemed a seducing Teacher CHAP. LVII Peace YEa but he produceth Scriptures against such toleration and for persecuting men for the cause of conscience Christ saith he had something against the Angel of the Church of Pergamus for tolerating them that held the doctrine of Balaam and against the Church of Thiatira for tolerating Iesabel to teach and seduce Rev. 2. 14. 20. Truth I may answer with some admiration and astonishment how it pleased the Father of lights and most jealous God to darken and vaile the eye of so pretious a man as not to seek out and propose some Scriptures in the proofe of so weighty an assertion as at least might have some colour for an influence of the Civill Magistrate in such cases for First he saith not that Christ had ought against the City Pergamus where Sathan had his throne Rev. 2. but against the Church at Pergamus in which was set up the Throne of Christ. Secondly Christs Charge is not against the Civill Magistrate of Pergamus but the Messenger or Ministry of the Church in Pergamus Thirdly I confesse so far as Balaams or Iesabels doctrine maintained a liberty of corporall fornication it concerned the City of
that judgement declare themselves never to have seene a true difference betweene the Church and the World and the Spirituall and Civill State and how●oever these worthy Authours seeme to make a kinde of separation from the World and professe that the Church must consist of spirituall and living Stones Saints Regenerate persons and so make some peculiar inclosed Ordinances as the Supper of the Lord which none say they but godly persons must taste of yet by compelling all within their Iurisdiction to an outward conformity of the Church worship of the Word and Prayer and maintenance of the Ministry thereof they evidently declare that they still lodge and dwell in the confused mixtures of the uncleane and cleane of the flock of Christ and Herds of the World together I meane in spirituall and religious worship Truth For a more ful and clear discussion of this Scripture 1 Tim. 2. 1. 2. on which is weakly built such a mighty building I shall propose and resolve these foure Quaeries CHAP. LXXXVII First what is meant by godlinesse and honesty in this place Secondly what may the scope of the holy Spirit of God be in this place Thirdly whether the civill Magistrate was then custos utri●●sque Tabulae keeper of both Tables c. Fourthly whether a Church or Congregation of Christians may not live in godlinesse and honesty although the civill Magistrate be of another conscience and worship and the whole State and Country with him To the first What is here meant by godlinesse and honesty Answ. I finde not that the Spirit of God here intendeth the first and second Table For how ever the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifie godlinesse or the worship of God yet the second word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I finde not that it signifies such an honesty as compriseth the duties of the second Table but such an honesty as signifies solemnity gravity and so it is turned by the Translatours Tit. 2. 7. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is in doctrine incorruptnesse gravity which doctrine cannot there bee taken for the doctrine of the civill state or second Table but the gravity majesty and solemnity of the spirituall doctrine of Christianity So that according to the Translatours owne rendring of that word in Titus this place of Timothy should be thus rendred In all godlinesse or worshipping of God and gravity that is a solemne or grave profession of the worship of God and yet this mistaken and misinterpreted Scripture is that great Castle and strong Hold which so many ●lye unto concerning the Magistrates charge over the two Tables Secondly what is the scope of the Spirit of God in this place I answer first negatively the scope is not to speake of the duties of the first and second Table Nor secondly is the scope to charge the Magistrate with forcing the people who have chose him to godlinesse or Gods worship according to his conscience the Magistrate keeping the peace of externall godlinesse and the Church of internall as is affirmed but Secondly positively I say the Spirit of God by Paul in this place provokes Timothy and the Church at Ephesus and so consequently all the Ministers of Christs Churches and Christians to pray for two things First for the peaceable and quiet state of the Countries and places of their abode that is implyed in their praying as Paul directs them for a quiet and peaceable condition and suits sweetly with the command of the Lord to his people even in Babel Ier. 29. 7. Pray for the peace of the City and seeke the good of it for in the Peace thereof it shall goe well with you Which Ruie will hold in any Pagan or Popish city and therefore consequently are Gods people to pray against Warres Famines Pestilences and especially to bee far from kindling coales of War and endeavour the bringing in and advancing their conscience by the sword Secondly they are here commanded to pray for the salvation of all men that all men and especially Kings and Magistrates might be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth implying that the grave or solemne and shining profession of godlinesse or Gods worship according to Christ Iesus is a blessed meanes to cause all sorts of men to be affected with the Christian profession and to come to the same knowledge of that one God and one Mediatour Christ Iesus All which tends directly against what it is brought for to wit the Magistrates forcing all men to godlinesse or the worshipping of God which in truth causeth the greatest breach of peace and the greatest distractions in the World and the setting up that for godlinesse or worship which is no more then Nebuchadnezzars golden Image a State worship and in some places the worship of the Beast and his Image Dan 3. Rev. 13. CHAP. LXXXVIII THirdly I quaerie whether the Civill Magistrate which was then the Roman Emperour was keeper or guardian of both Tables as is affirmed Scripture and all History tell us that those Caesars were not only ignorant without God without Christ c. but professed worshippers or maintainers of the Roman gods or divells as also notorious for all sorts of wickednesse and lastly cruell and bloudy Lions and Tygers toward the Christians for many hundred yeares Hence I argue from the wisdome love and faithfulnesse of the Lord Iesus in his house it was impossible that he should appoint such ignorant such Idolatrous such wicked and such cruell persons to be his chiefe Officers and Deputy Lieutenants under himselfe to keep the worship of God to guard his Church his Wife No wise and loving father was ever knowne to put his childe no not his beasts dogs or swine but unto fitting keepers Men judge it matter of high complaint that the Records of Parliament the Kings children the Tower of London the Great Seale should be committed to unworthy keepers And can it be without high blasphemie conceived that the Lord Iesus should commit his Sheep his Children yea his Spouse his thousand shields and bucklers in the Tower of his Church● and lastly his Great and Glorious Broad Seales of Baptisme and his Supper to be preserved pure in their adminstrations I say that the Lord Iesus who is wisdome and faithfulnesse it selfe should deliver these to such keepers Peace Some will say it is one thing what persons are in ●act and practice another what they ought to be by right and office Truth In such cases as I have mentioned no man doth in the common eye of reason deliver such matters of charge and trust to such as declare themselves and sinnes like Sodome at the very time of this great charge and trust to be committed to them Peace It will further be said that many of the Kings of Iudah who had the charge of establishing reforming and so consequently of keeping the first Table the Church Gods worship c. were notoriously wicked Idolatrous c. Truth I must
Christs mouth a sword with two edges But more particularly the contributions of Christs Kingdome are all holy and spirituall though consisting of materiall earthly substance as is Water in Baptisme Bread and Wine in the Supper and joyned with prayer and the Lords Supper Act. 2. 42. Hence as Prayer is called Gods sacrifice so are the contributions and mutuall supplyes of the Saints sacrifices Phil. 4. Hence also as it is impossible for naturall men to bee capable of Gods worship and to feed be nourished and edified by any spirituall ordinance no more then a dead childe can sucke the breast or a dead man feast So also is it as impossible for a dead man yet lodged in the grave of Nature to contribute spiritually I meane according to Scriptures rule as for a dead man to pay a reckoning I question not but naturall men may for the outward act preach pray contribute c. but neither are they worshippers suitable to him who is a Spirit Iohn 4. nor can they least of all bee forced to worship or the maintenance of it without a guilt of their hypocrisie Peace They will say what is to be done for their soules Truth The Apostles whom wee professe to imitate preached the Word of the Lord to unbeleevers without mingling in worship with them and such Preachers and preaching such as pretend to be the true Ministry of Christ ought to be and practise Not forcing them all their dayes to come to Church and pay their duties either so confessing that this is their Religion unto which they are forced or else that as before they are forced to be of no Religion all their dayes The way to subdue Rebels is not by correspondence and communion with them by forcing them to keepe the City Watches and pay sessements c. which all may be practised upon compulsion treacherously the first work with such is powerfully to subdue their judgments and wills to lay downe their weapons and yeeld willing subjection then come they orderly into the City and so to Citie priviledges CHAP. CVI. Peace PLease you now deare Truth to discusse the Scriptures from the Old Testament Nehem 13. and 2 Chron. 31. Truth God gave unto that Nationall Church of the Jewes that excellent Land of Canaan and therein Houses furnished Orchards Gardens Vineyards Olive yards Fields Wells c. they might well in this settled abundance and the promised continuation and increase of it afford a large temporall supply to their Priests and Levites even to the Tenth of all they did possesse Gods people are now in the Gospel brought into a spirituall land of Canaan flowing with spirituall milk and honey and they abound with spirituall and heavenly comforts though in a poore and persecuted condition therefore an inforced setled maintenance is not sutable to the Gospel as it was to the Ministry of Priests and Levites in the Law Secondly in the change of the Church estate there was also a change of the Priesthood and of the Law Heb. 7. Nor did the Lord Iesus appoint that in his Church and for the maintenance of his Ministrie the Civill sword of the Magistrate but that the Spirituall Sword of the Ministrie should alone compell 3. Therefore the compulsion used under Hezekiah and Nehemiah was by the civill and corporall Sword a type in that typicall State not of another materiall and corporall but of an heavenly and spirituall even the sword of the Spirit with which Christ fighteth Revel 3. which is exceeding sharpe entring in between the soule and spirit Heb. 4. and bringing every thought into captivitie to the obedience of Christ Iesus He that submits not at the shaking of this sword is cut off by it and he that despiseth this sword all the power in the World cannot make him a true worshipper or by his purse a mainteiner of Gods worship Lastly If any man professing to be a Minister of Christ Iesus shall bring men before the Magistrate as the practice hath been both in Old and New England for not paying him his wages or his due I aske if the voluntarie consent of the party hath not obliged him how can either the officers of the Parish Church or of the Civill State compell this or that man to pay so much more or lesse to maintaine such a Worship or Ministrie I ask further if the determining what is each mans due to pay why may they not determine the tenth and more as some desired others opposing in New England and force men not only to maintenance but to a Iewish maintenance Peace Yea but say they is not the Labourer worthy of his hire Truth Yes from them that hire him from the Church to whom he laboureth or ministreth not from the Civill State no more then the Minister of the Civill State is worthy of his hire from the Church but from the Civill State in which I grant the persons in the Church ought to be assistant in their Civill respects Peace What maintenance say they shall the Ministrie of the Gospell have Truth We finde two wayes of maintenance for the Ministrie of the Gospell proposed for our direction in the New Testament First the free and willing contribution of the Saints according to 1 Cor. 16. Luc. 8. 3. c. upon which both the Lord Jesus and his Ministers lived Secondly the diligent worke and labour of their owne hands as Paul tells the Thessalonians and that in two cases 1. Either in the inabilities and necessities of the Church 2. Or for the greater advantage of Christs truth as when Paul saw it would more advantage the name of Christ he denies himselfe and falls to worke amongst the Corinthians and Thessalonians Let none call these cases extraordinary for if persecution be the portion of Christs sheep and the busines or worke of Christ must be dearer to us then our right eyes or lives such as will follow Paul and follow the Lord Iesus must not thinke much at but rejoyce in poverties necessities hunger cold nakednesse c. The Stewards of Christ Iesus must be like their Lord and abhorre to steale as the evill Steward pretending that the shamed to beg but peremptorily dig he could not CHAP. CVII Peace ONe and the last branch deare Truth remaines concerning Schooles The Churches say they much depend upon the Schooles and the Schooles upon the Magistrates Truth I honour Schooles for Tongues and Arts but the institution of Europes Universities devoting persons as is said for Scholars in a Monasticall way forbidding Mariage and Labour to I hold as far from the mind of Iesus Christ as it is from propagating his Name and Worship We count the Universities the Fountaines the Seminaries or Seed-plots of all Pietie but have not those Fountaines ever sent what streames the Times have liked and ever changed their taste and colour to the Princes eye and Palate For any depending of the Church of Christ upon such Schooles
I finde not a little in the Testament of Christ Iesus I finde the Church of Christ frequently compared to a Schoole All Beleevers are his Disciples or Scholars yea women also Acts 9. 36. There was a certaine Disciple or Scholar called Dorcas Have not the Universities sacrilegiously stole this blessed name of Christs Scholars from his people Is not the very Scripture language it selfe become absurd to wit to call Gods people especially Women as Dorcas Scholars Peace Some will object how shall the Scriptures be brought to ●ight from out of Popish darknesse except these Schooles of Prophets convey them to us Truth I know no Schooles of Prophets in the New Testament but the particular Congregation of Christ Iesus 1 Cor. 14. And I question whether any thing but Sinne stopt and dried up the current of the Spirit in those rare gifts of tongues to Gods sons daughters serving so admirably both for the understanding of the Originall Scriptures and also for the propagating of the name of Christ. Who knowes but that it may please the Lord againe to cloath his people with a spirit of zeale and courage for the name of Christ yea and powre forth those fiery streames againe of Tongues and Prophecie in the restauration of Zion If it be not his holy pleasure so to doe but that his people with daily study and labour must dig to come at the Originall Fountaines Gods people have many wayes besides the Universitie lazie and Monkish to attaine to an excellent measure of the knowledge of those tongues That most despised while living and now much honoured Mr. Ainsworth had scarce his Peere amongst a thousand Academians for the Scripture Originalls and yet he scarce set foot within a Colledge walls CHAP. CVIII Peace I Shall now present you with their 10. Head viz. concerning the Magistrates power in matters of Doctrine That which is unjustly ascribed to the Pope is as unjustly ascribed to the Magistrates viz. to have power of making new Articles of Faith or Rules of Life or of pressing upon the Churches to give such publike honour to the Apocrypha writings or Homilies of men as to read them to the people in the roome of the Oracles of God Truth This Position simply considered I acknowledge a most holy truth of God both against the Pope and the Civill Magistrates challenge both pretending to be the Vicars of Christ Iesus upon the Earth Yet two things here I shall propose to consideration First since the Parliament of England thrust the Pope out of his chaire in England and set downe King Henry the 8. and his Successours in the Popes roome establishing them supreme Governours of the Church of England since such an absolute government is given by all men to them to be Guardians of the first Table and worship of God to set up the true worship to suppresse all false and that by the power of the Sword and therefore consequently they must judge and determine what the true is and what the false And since the Magistrate is bound by these Authours principles to see the Church the Church officers and members doe thair duty he must therefore judge what is the Churches duty and when she performes or not performes it or when she exceeds so like wise when the Ministers performe their duty or when they exceed it And if the Magistrate must judge then certainly by his owne eye and not by the eyes of others though assembled in a Nationall or Generall Councell Then also upon his judgement must the people rest as upon the minde and judgement of Christ or else it must be confest that he hath no such power left him by Christ to compell the soules of men in matters of Gods worship Secondly concerning the Apocrypha writings and Homilies to be urged by the Magistrate to be read unto the people as the Oracles of God I aske if the Homilies of England contain not in them much pretious and heavenly matter ● Secondly if they were not 〈◊〉 at least many of them by excellent men for learning holinesse and witnesse of Christs Truth incomparable Thirdly were they not authorised by that most rare and pious Prince Ed. 6. then head of the Church of England With what great solemnity and rejoycing were they received of thousands Yet now behold their children after them sharply censure them for Apocrypha writings and Homilies trust into the roome of the Word of God and so falling into the consideration of a false and counterfeit Scripture I demand of these worthy men whether a servant of God might then lawfully have refused to read or heare such a false Scripture Secondly if so whether King Edward might have lawfully compelled such a man to yeeld and submit or else have persecuted him yea according to the Authors principles whether he ought to have spared him because after the admonitions of such pious and learned men this man shall now prove an Hereticke and as an obstinate person sinning against the light of his owne conscience In this case what shall the conscience of the subject doe awed by the dread of the most High What shall the conscience of the Magistrate do zealous for his glorious Reformation being constantly perswaded by his Clergy of his Lieutenantship received from Christ Again what priviledge have those worthy servants of God either in Old or New England to be exempted from the mistakes into which those glo●ious Worthies in K. Edwards time did fall and if so what bloudy conclusions are presented to the World perswading men to plucke up by the Roots from the Land of the living all such as seem in their eyes hereticall or obstinate CHAP. CIX Peace DEare Truth What darke and dismall bloudy paths doe we walke in How is thy name and mine in all ages cried up yet as an English Flag in a Spanish bottome not in truth but dangerous treachery and abuse both of Truth and Peace We are now come to the 11 Head which concernes the Magistrates power in worship First they have power say they to reforme things in the worship of God in a Church corrupted and to establish the pure worship of God defending the same by the power of the sword against all those who shall attempt to corrupt it For first the reigning of Idolatry and corruption in Religion is imputed to the want of a King Iudges 17. 5 6. Secondly Remissenes in Reforming Religion is a fault imputed to them who suffered the High Places in Israel and in Gallio who cared not for such things Acts 18. Thirdly Forwardnesse this way is a duty not only for Kings in the Old Testament but for Princes under the New 1 Tim 2. 2. Rom. 13. 4. Esay 49. 23. Neither did the Kings of Israel reforme things amisse as types of Christ but as Civill Magistrates and so exemplary to all Christians And here Reformation in Religion is commendable in a Persian King Ezra 7.