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A40242 Saul's errand to Damascus, with his packet of letters from the high priests against the disciples of the Lord, or, A faithful transcript of a petition contrived by some persons in Lancashier who call themselves ministers of the Gospel breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable & godly people there, by them nick-named Quakers : together with the defence of the persons thereby traduced against, the slanderous and false suggestions of that petition, and other untruths charged upon them : published to no other end but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ, who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages. Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.; Lawson, John. 1654 (1654) Wing F1895; ESTC R37353 29,928 47

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is blind and they that say the Letter John 8. 12. and the Spirit are inseparable when the Spirit saith the Letter is death and killeth and all that do study to raise a living thing out of a dead to raise the Spirit out of the Letter are Conjures and draw points and reasons and so do Jer. 23. 16. speak a divination of their own brain they are Conjurers Jer. 27. 9. 10 and Diviners and their teaching is from Conjuration which is not spoken from the mouth of the Lord and the Lord is against all such and who are of God are against all such for that Doctrine doth not profit the people at al for it stands not in the councel of God but is a doctrine of the Devil and drawes people from God but he that speaks from the mouth of the Lord turns people from their wickednes but that Ministery which God hath not sent and that assembly must be disaffected for the Lord is coming to teach his people himself by his Spirit Heb. 8. 11. Object George Fox said the Soripure was carnay Ans The Letter of the Scripture is carnal and the Letter is death and killeth but the Spirit giveth life which was in them Heb. 7. 16. that gave forth the Scriptures and that I witnes which is eternal and not carnal for the Jews which had the Letter persecuted Iesus Christ the substance and so do you now which have the Letter and not the Substance there were Ministers of the Letter then and Ministers of the Spirit so there is now the Col. 1. 27. same Christ being made manifest is unknown to the world for the whole world Lyeth in wickednes and Christ Jesus is a Mystery to the world and is bid though you may profeses him because the Letter speaketh of him but ye persecute him where 1 Iohn 3. 8 be is made manifest and where he is made manifest the works of the devil are destroyed and there be speaks and is King 1 Ioh. 5. ●● and is the way and is the truth and is the life and he that hath Rom. 8 11. the Son hath life and he that hath not the Son hath not life and he 1 Cor. 6. 27. that hath the same spirit that raised up Iesus Christ is equal 2 Cor. 6. 10. wth God and the Scripture saith that God wildwel in man walk in man as Iesus Christ which is the mystery hath passed before so the same Spirit takes upon it the same seed and is the same where it is made manifest according to the flesh I am the son of Abraham according to the Spirit the Son of God saith Christ All the plotting of the Priests is and ever was against Christ where he is made manifest and the Boast shall Col. 1. 27 make rear with the Saints and with the Lamb but the Heb. 2. 11. Lamb shall get the victory praises praises be to our God for ever for evermore Obj. Richard Huberthorn writ that Christs coming in the flesh was but a figure Ans Christ in his people is the substance of all figures tipes and shadows fulfilling them in them and setting them free from them But as he is held forth in the Scripture-Letter without them and in the flesh without them he is their example or figure which is both 〈◊〉 that the same things might be fulfilled in them that was in Christ Iesus for even her innto were 1 Pet. 2. 21. ye called because Christ hath suffered for us leaving us an example 1 Pet. 4. 1. that we should follow his steps for asmuch as Christ hath suffered 1 Pet. 1. 19. for us arm yourselves likewise with the same mind Christ was our example in suffering and in holinesse and as he which hath called you is holy so be ye holy in all manner of conversation Iohn 13. 15. because it is writen Be ye holy as I am holy he is our example in humility I have given you an example saith Christ that ye should do even as I have done unto you And as he is so are we in this World He is our forerunner Captain of our salvaton and in all things our example As they have done unto me so shall they do unto you But all they who have not Christ dwelling in them go about to persecute him in all them in whom he is made manifest they neither follow him as an example themselves nor suffer others to follow him as an example and walk in the same steps but deny him both as the substance and example of his people but they who are taught of him do confesse him both as he is the substance of all things and their example in all things for without me ye can do nothing saith Christ and it is so I witnesse it And as for Iames Milner though his mind did run out from his condition and from minding that light of God which is in him whereby the world takes occasion to speak against the Truth and many friends stumble at it yet there is a pure seed in him Object Leonard Fell said that Christ had no body but his Church Answ There is one body and one Spirit even as ye are called 〈◊〉 4. 4. into one hope of your calling and Christ Iesus is the head of the 〈◊〉 1. 18. Body the Church and ye are made free from sin by the body of Cor. 5. 19. Christ and Christ came to redeem his Church God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself for his bodies sake which is 〈◊〉 1. 24. his Church For we are members of his Body of his flesh and of 〈◊〉 5. 30. his bones this is a great Mystery but I speak concerning Christ and his Church And hath put all things under his feet and gave 〈◊〉 22. 23. him to be the head over all things to the Church which is his body The fulnesse of him that filleth al in al in whom also we are builed up together for an habitation of God through the Spirit More Objections against George Fox charged upon him by the Contrivers of the foresaid Petition and Answered by him as followeth Object 1 THat he did affirm that he had the Divinity ossentiall in him Answ For the word essential it is an expression of thir own but that the Saints are the Temples of God and God doth dwell 2 Cor. 6. 1. in them that the Scriptures do witnesse and if God dwell in Eph. 4. 6. them then the Divinity dwels in them and the Scripture saith 2 Pet. 1. 4. Ye shall be partakers of the Divine nature and this I witnesse but where this is not they cannot witnesse it Object 2. That both Baptisme and the Lords Supper are unlawfull Answ As for that word unlawful it was not spoken by me but the Baptisme of Infants I deny and there is no Scripture that speaks of a Sacrament but that Baptism that is into
the Prodigal ye Luk 15. 24. the Scripture faith This my Son was dead and is alive againe but thou art withput God in the world Object 2. That the day of judgement was past Answ Christ speaks The bruted reed he will not break the Mat. 12. 20. smoaking flax he will not quench till he bring forth judgment into victory Here thou shewest thy sel●e to be ignorant of the Scripture but only as a near-sayer thou speakest and the outside of the Letter and not Christ and canst not witness him who beings forth judgement into victory but standest as a witness against them who witness the Scriptures fulfilled in them and Chri beinging forth judgement into victory and here thou shewest thy se●●e to be unacquainted with Christ and thy nakedness and ignorance thou makest appear Object 3. That he had been in Hell and is now in Heaven Answ Here thou shewest thy selfe to be a witness against the holy men of God Jonah saith Ou● of the belly of He●l cryed Jon. 2. I and thou heardest my voice and the Lord delivered him out of Hell and might n●t 〈◊〉 co●f●s●● thou H●pocrit For thou wilt not leave my soul in Hell neither will thou suffer thy Ps 16. 10. boly One to see corruption Thou hast delivered my son out of death bless the Lord my soul and all that is within me bless Ps 103. 1 2. his holy name How derest thou profess the Scriptures and the holy men of Gods conditions which were raised and brought our of death and witness the holy me lot Gods condition thou persecutest then O thou blind my pocrite I here thou shewest thou never lawest Holis mouth yet therefore thou never cryedst in Hell yet Object 4. That he was came to the infinite company of the first born and the spirits of just men made perfect Answ Paul said who was a Minster of God But ye are come to Mount Sion and to the City of the living God the Heavenly Heb. 12. 22. Ierusalem and to an innumerable company of Angels to the general Assembly and Church of the first born which are written in heaven unto God the Iudge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect Paul was a Minister of Iesus Christ by the will of God who encouraged the Saints who were brought hither but thou new perseeutest them and art a witnes against them that confess they are brought hither here thou shewest thou hast the spirit of error openly and art no Minister of God no not of the Letter but art against the Letter as it speaks persecuting them that have the life of it Object 5. That he had heard the last Trumpet sound and seen the new Ierusalem Answ Here thou shewest forth thy spite and venome If Iohn was here which saw the great City and holy Ierusalem descend out of Heaven from God Iohn said I saw the holy City New Ierusalem come down from God out of Heaven thou wouldst be a witness against him and thou shewest thy self in the generation that was ever persecutors slandere's opposers of the power of truth Where the same spirit is that was in Iohn he sees these things now as he did then but where the same spirit is not which thou shewest thou hast not but a contrary spirit that pesecutes them which do see those things but is as a dog to bite and devour Iohn saw the last Trumpet sound which shews thou art not come to the first Blow the trumpet in Sion sound Joel 2. 1. an allarum in my holy mountain let all the inhabitants of the earth tremble Here be thou a witness against thy self that thou art a witness against the truth and in the generation of them that ever slow the righteous ●eed Obj. 6. That John Lawson said he had seen God face to face Ans Here thou shewest thy self to be a witness against them that know God and makest thy selfe manifest to be a Heathen 〈◊〉 all are Heathens ●●at do not know God and no man knoweth God saving he that is born of God and who ere born of God are owners of the Truth and not against it but against the deceit Iacob said I have seen God face to face Isaiah Gen 32. Isa 6. 5. and Mine eyes have seen the King the Lord of Hasts Iob and I have heard of thee by the hearing of the care but now Job 42 5. ●●ne eyes have seen thee And God spake to Moses face to Exod 33. 11. 〈◊〉 Here you may take your oaths and swear against Iacob ●gainst Isaiah against Iob and against Moses Where the false spirit is made manifest and who are born of God know God face to face as they did but they who are born of the flesh persecute them who are born of the spirit and there you shew your selves to be taking oaths and swearing against them that know God seeking to bring them to prison or bondage for you never read in all the Scriptures that the Prophets or the Apostles took their oaths against any which confessed they had seen God or put up a Petition to the Magistrates or witnessed it with oaths against any of them the Ministers of God said Swear not at all And here you shew your selves to be no Ministers of God but without God for the Ministers of God are to bring people to know God and to the Church in God and to the heavenly Jerusalem and to the innumerable company of Angels and Ministers to that which is in prison and in death but if any come to witnesse these things fulfilled you are witnesses against them with oaths and would bring the bodies of such into prison where the seed of God is raised out of prison within shewing your selves to be Antichrists persecuters of the power of Truth and beasts which shall make war against the Saints and against the Lamb but the Lamb shall get the victory Job cryed when the Lord hid his face and David cryed when the Lord hid his face and said O Lord I will seek thy face And here you shew you neither know his face nor have seen it but are persecuters of them who know it and seek it Praises praises be to the Lord for ever FINIS