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A69672 Baptism and the Lord's Supper substantially asserted being an apology in behalf of the people called Quakers, concerning those two heads / by Robert Barclay. Barclay, Robert, 1648-1690. 1696 (1696) Wing B742A; ESTC R20190 64,146 145

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