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A53583 Man wholly mortal, or, A treatise wherein 'tis proved, both theologically and philosophically, that as whole man sinned, so whole man died ... with doubts and objections answered and resolved, both by Scripture and reason ... : also, divers other mysteries, as of heaven, hell, the extent of the resurrection, the new-creation, &c. opened, and presented to the trial of better judgment. / by R.O.; Mans mortallitie Overton, Richard, fl. 1646.; Overton, Robert, ca. 1609-ca. 1668. 1675 (1675) Wing O629C; Wing O640_CANCELLED; ESTC R11918 46,615 138

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formans therefore naturam expellas furca licet usque recurres it is made action which cannot but appeare for all action is apparent and they say it is an immortal spirit therefore cannot cease and if not cease it must shew it self Now why are not Infants then as rational as others nay let me ask one Question If this endless soul be forma formans the maker of our bodyes why have we not endless bodies for omne tale generat tale every like brings forth its like so then if one be immortal the other must be immortal if one mortal the other mortal Secondly I answer that though some are fooles from their birth yet it doth not follow that Gods immediate hand is required to mans procreation but rather the contrary for imperfections in a thing argue the mediate generation thereof because no imperfection of any kinde can come immediately from the hand of God imperfections are accidental or from the curse therefore not of creation but of procreation Now seeing all this while we have had to do with this immortal Soul we cannot find or the Soularies tell what it is such likewise is its residence for if we ask where it is they slap us i'th'mouth with a Riddle tota in toto tota in qualibet parte the whole in the whole and the whole in every part that is the whole immortal Soul in the whole body and the whole Soul wholly in every part of the body To which I answer that this extends immortality or impossibility of death to the body for if immortality be in every part then no part of man from the crown of the head to the soal of the foot can be excepted so we are all Soul all over and every part a whole Soul immortal So that it must either be held to be ubiquitarie which is an Attribute peculiar to God or else multiplicable by a corpulent division and so were a man minced into Atomes cut into innumerable bits there would be so many innumerable whole Souls else could it not be wholly in every part Monstrum horrendum ingens cui quot sunt corpore crines Tot vigiles Animae subter mirabile dictu And thus the Riddle is unfolded CHAP. VI. Testimonies of Scripture to prove that whole man is generated and propagated by Nature THat this is true secundum actum naturae observe the sence of these ensuing Scriptures viz. Gen. 1.17 18. comparted with the 22 vers where man and beast have an equal blessing and charge to propagate their like Eccl. 3.19 there is no distinction betwixt them c. Gen. 17.7 I will be thy God and the God of thy seed after thee here by seed must be meant persons and not bare carcasses else he had been the God of dead clots and not of living souls Gen. 46.26 All the souls that came with Jacob into Aegypt which came out of his loynes c. Job 31.15 Did not he that made me in the womb make him and did not one fashion us in the womb Ergo if his soul were immediately created so was his body for he that is his Entity person even all that went to make him man was formed and shapen in the wombe both Epithites for procreation and not for creation Job 10.10 11.22 Hast thou not poured me out as milke and curdled me like cheese thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh and hast fenced me with bones and sinews thou hast granted me life and favour and thy visitation hath preserved my spirit Here Job sets forth exactly the manner of mans procreation from the act of generation even to his breathing First poured out as milke that is the seminarie evacuation of both Sexes in conjunction then curdled me like cheese that is the changing of that to a grosser matter congealed blood then clothed me with flesh and skin that is the incarnation of that condensed blood then fenced me with bones and sinews that is that carnated matter was formed into humane shape and grew into members then grantedst me life that is began to breath whence observe that in ascribing the whole worke to God he doth ascribe it to one kinde onely and not partly mediate partly immediate for he ascribeth even the evacuation of seed in carnal copulation and the conception of flesh and bones in as high a measure yea to take away all cavil rather a greater as he doth his life poured clothed and fenced imply a more absolute act then granting which is but a sufferance permission or assenting therefore his conception was meerly and wholly natural according to that of David Psa 51.5 Behold I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me And to this adde that of Zach. 12.1 The Lord formeth the spirit of man within him Whence it is clear that whole man flesh and spirit is a second act formed in the wombe otherwise flesh as well as spirit must be created which all deny Children are the blessing of the breast and wombe Gen. 49.5 That came out of the Loynes Exod. 1.5 Heb. 7.5 the fruit of the body Deut. 18.4 came out of the bowels 2 Sam. 10.11 see Gen. 16.11 38.25 Mat. 1.18 Gen. 5.3 Adam begat a son in his owne likeness Psal 139.15 16. My Substance was not hid from thee when I was made in a secret place and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the Earth thine eyes did see my masse yet being imperfect and in thy book all my members were written which in continuance were fashioned when as yet was none of them whence is evident that his whole Person was an act of nature in his mothers wombe or secret place what of him was in the Book of Gods providence he declareth was made not created in a secret place to wit his substance or masse all that went to the subject man and I hope the Soularies will not blot his Soul out of the Book of Gods providence or say it was no part of him Luke 1.31 Thou shalt conceive in thy wombe and bring forth a son whence observe that what she was to bring forth she was to conceive to wit a son and none will deny Christ was born compleat man in all things as we are sin excepted And if any scruple arise from Rom. 1.3 He was made of the seed of David according to the flesh I Answer That it is a distinction from other men in respect of that anointing he received from the Father above his brethren and fellowes Gen. 4.1 She conceived and bare Cain see the like cap. 38.3 4 5. Judg. 13.3 5 7. And Job 3.3 There is a man-child conceived And Gen. 17.6 And Kings shall come out of thee vers 17. twelve Princes shall he beget And Judg. 8.30 Gideon had 70 Sons out of his body begotten And Num. 5. Then she shall be free and shall conceive seed and Heb. 11.11 compared with Gen. 17.8 and such like plainly shew mans procreation wholly natural Joh. 3.6 That which is
and actually in time springeth from it or as many graines of wheat are in one graine virtually and perfectly actual in time so in the seed of mankind is whole man potentially and wholly actual in time or all Adams succession which in time are propagated were wholly in him life and limbes or as 't is more common soul and body So that whatsoever in time is actual by procreation it was at first potentially wholly in it's original Further Generatum sequitur naturam generantis he begat a son in his own image Gen. 5.3 is not not onely philosophically but Theologically true Mat. 7.16 Job 4.14 Therefore mortal Adam must beget mortal children in his own likeness soul and body except the soul was no part of his likeness For that which is immortal cannot generatively proceed from that which is mortal as Christ saith that which is born of the flesh is as it self is corruptable mutable flesh John 3.6 so then by this mortal flesh cannot be generated an immortal spirit or soul that can subsist by it self dissolved from the flesh for if it should in that act it should go beyond it self which is impossible and thereby more should be done by man and woman in generation then God did or could do in the creation for he neither did or could create any thing greater purer or more excellent of nature then himself and such as could subsist without him But if this doctrine be true as Woolner in his Original of the soul averreth fleshly man by a fleshly generation or mixture of the seed of both Sexes doth beget or conceive something greater purer and more excellent then himself an immortal substance an Angelical entitie the Soul that can subsist without the flesh by which it is which is as fire without light earth without heaviness grosseness c. should be by which they are and further the Effect to be prior dignitate precedent to the Cause as if a man because a creature should be before his Creator But if it be Replyed that the soul is generated by the soul as the body by the body I answer then there must be He-souls and She-souls for without Sexes is no generation But now to the first sort who say it is by infusion or as the saying is Creando infunditur infundendo creatur To which I Answer that in conception there is corruption or marring according the proverb Corruptio unius est generatio alterius so that if it be by conceiving or creating infused and by infusion concepted or created that is as much to say it is made in the marring and mar'd in the making or infus'd in the marring and mar'd in the infusion whence followeth that it is neither conceived created nor infused neither made nor mar'd but must be if it be no man knows what or how whether an Angel a Beast or a Monster any thing or nothing Riddle me riddle me what 's this a Soul a Soul creando infunditur infundendo creatur Secondly if the soul be a creature infused then Christ did not take the whole man-hood from the seed of the woman but worse then a bare brutish body a dead carcass But Christ was made of the seed of the woman according to the flesh Ram. 1.3 Acts 2.30 and was as we are sin excepted Heb. 14.15 and this our Image he received wholly from the woman Therefore receiving his whole humanity from her the soul can be no infused creature Thirdly That which brake the Serpents head was Christs humanity But the seed of the woman brake the Serpents head Ergo. Fourthly If we consist of soul and body and are not men without both and receive not our souls from him but are dayly created Then Adam is the father of no man 2. Christ cannot be the Son of man and so no Saviour because thereby his manhood constitutive part even that which should make him man could not be by the seed of the woman 3. So a man is as much a father of fleas and lice which receive their matter from him as of his children 4. Whereas God blessed man and bid him as the rest of the creatures in their kinde fill the Earth in his kinde with men then he commanded him to do more then he had given him power for and so to content nature and supply her imbecility to obey is forced to a daily creation 5. Then God finished not the Creation in sixe dayes but rested before he had done creating Fifthly If the soul be infused it must be at the conception or after the conception If at the conception then every abortive conception hath an immortal spirit in it and must rise again If after then there is growth before there is life which is impossible for the soul is made the vegetive as well as the motive sensitive or rational part and if this immortal spirit be something else then we are not conceived perfect men and as we are conceived so are we born trees brutes or I know not what and afterwards are made men if we be men at all and so Infants that die in the wombe or in the birth are little better then trees and worse then beasts Sixthly If the soul be not generated with the body but a creature infused into a dead body for they say the soul is forma formans that giveth life and motion to the body Then it is lawful to be a Nigromancer for Nigromancie is nothing but putting a spirit into a dead body and so it is but an imitation of God and God the onely Nigromancer and all the men in the word but Nigromatnick Apparitions whose spirits when they have done the worke for which they were put into the bodies desert them as other conjured Ghosts do Seventhy It is granted that the body considered meerly sensitive cannot sin and that the body is but an instrument or as the pen in the hand of a Writer to the Soul whereby it acts and moves Therefore if the Soul come immediately from God or there be an immediate worke of his in it's production then of necessity that immortal thing and not our mortal flesh is Author of all sin and it onely prone to all sin and not the flesh no more then a conduit though a meet instrument to convey water is the author or fount of water or prone to spring And so Gods immediate hand is the cause of all sin that man had better been without this soul for it must needs be some damnable wicked spirit or some Devil that God puts in him for such as the fruit is such must the tree be but the fruit is damnably wicked Therefore the Soul must be some damnable wicked thing No marvel then if Reprobates must needs sin and be damned since God infuses such a malignant Soul that counsels them with Jobs wife to curse God and die yea such a one as wholly workes out their condemnation This is as if a man should break his horses legs and then knock