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A05091 Politique discourses, treating of the differences and inequalities of vocations, as well publique, as priuate with the scopes or endes wherevnto they are directed. Translated out of French, by Ægremont Ratcliffe Esquire.; Discours politiques sur la voye d'enter deuëment aux estats. English La Place, Pierre de, 1520-1572.; Radcliffe, Egremont, d. 1578. 1589 (1589) STC 15230.5; ESTC S110593 110,171 164

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the Bishops hande by collation euery one in his diocesse the Pope Bishop of Rome excepted who hath reserued vnto himselfe this authoritie to prouide by concurrence and preuention indifferently in benefices of all diocesses The vocation of bishops Abbats in these dayes as he doth yet at this present as all the worlde knoweth At this instant the prouision of Bishoprickes is otherwise made in this Realme because the king nameth such persons as him pleaseth to choose in all the Bishopprickes and Abbies of his realme and after his nomination the Pope approueth The exterior vocation of Popes is verie auncient As touching the vocation and maner of calling of Popes to their Pontificacie it was was in olde time like vnto the maner of calling of other Bishops at the least wise but little differing from the same for the election of the Pope was made in the presence of neighbours and Bishoppes nexte at hande whiche were then called Cardinalles and the chiefe of the Clergie of Rome by the consente and at the postulation and request aswell of the Clergie as of the Laitie the authoritie and approbation of the Emperour and that of the person of some Deacon or Priest of Rome who hadde passed the inferiour degrées and not otherwise The vocation of Popes giuen to Emperours Sith that time the Popes gaue the full power of election to Charelemaine and other Emperours whiche hath sithens bene by them renounced so that at this present the manner of calling of Popes to their Pontificacie is onely reserued to the Cardinalles duly assembled in the 〈◊〉 according to the constitutions of Pope Alexander 3. Gregorie 10. Clement 5. Whiche to be shorte be all the manners of calling to Ecclesiasticall vocations vsed in these days CHAPTER IIII. Of the apparent Politique vocation and firste of Magistrates beginning from Moses dayes and so consequently to the the Graecians and Romanes vntill this day AS touching the politique or ciuil vocation if we looke backe to Moses dayes vndoubtedly we shall find Moses dayes that the way of choosing of Magistrates was ordeined by him saying I am not able alone to beare this burden therefore choose ye out from among your selues such as be wise of experience and be knowen eche one in his Tribe and quarter and I wil giue them charge to gouerne you It appeareth also in many places The Grecians dayes that in the time of the Grecians the people were likewise prouided of Magistrates by election Aristotle saying to that purpose that offices be and ought to be offered and proposed vnto them whose sufficiencie and industrie is knowen and séene of all men Although that in Gréece béeing gouerned by sundrie Ciuil estates diuerse and different to eche other according to the difference of Common weales the Magistratts were also created in some places there by lotte as in Publique weales intermedled indifferently ruled and gouerned by the people And in other Common-weales better founded by election but not altogether without the casting of lottes ioyned therevnto to avoide the briggings and practises of the ambitious The Venetian estate The time of the Romane Republique as is yet to this day vsed in the Segniorie of Venice In the Romanes dayes they procéeded likewise to the election of Magistrates in full assemblie of the people by the pluralitie of voyces And without séeking further it appeareth sufficiently by the ordinaunces of this Realme He manneth Fraunce that the olde manner was to procéede by election and nomination in all iudiciall seates when so euer any office was vacant in the same whereof the souereigne courtes doe yet to this day reteine the shadowe and figure onely without other effect insuing The reason of this election was great and necessarie founded vppon the insufficiencie of man and impossibilitie to be able to aunswere alone to so greate a charge as was well ynoughe knowen to Moses a greate personage replenished with the spirite of God CHAPTER V. Of the apparant vocation to the Royall digninitie and incidently of the well founded Monarchie of France THere is in ciuil estates gouerned by a Monarchie a vocation souereigne aboue all other to witte The dignitie Royall Wherevnto it appeareth that in some places they were called by the election voyce and suffrage of the people and in othersome by succession And whether of these two is the better hath vene a question propounded by Aristotle in his Politiques Aristotle but left by him vndecided We vse that which in my opinion is the better To witte by succession whiche is also founde the moste florishing and the longest of continuance of al other as the kingdoms of the Syrians The vocation to the Regall dignitie of Fr. The lawe Salike Aegyptians Parthies beare sufficient testimonie And to saue labour they of Englande Fraunce and Spaine especially of Fraunce because it is not onely by succession but simply by succession of Males according to the lawe Salike Aristotle Although it séeme that Aristotle as it it were glansing by woulde rather approue and allow the vocation of kinges made by voyce and suffrages calling the same which goeth by succession A barbarous domination suche as of the maister ouer the seruaunt But that may not be vnderstoode of a kingdome and Monarchie so well constituted as ours fastened and linked not as Dionyse the tyrant said The Monarchie of Fr wel founded with a chaine of Diamants with force feare but with the chaine of beneuolence and loue of subiectes purchased by iustice and vertue The which thoughe it be looser The Monarchie of France snaffled with two bridles not so fast girte and straightly stretched as the other is for all that a great deale firmer and of more force to kéepe and enterteine a principalitie a longer continuance of time Hauing ouer this Monarchie The Monarchie is moste durable that is kept vnder bridle two principall good and sure bridles to temper and kéepe the same from running riot after the vnbridled affection of one man alone to wit religion which hath always béene in singular recommendation with our Princes and by the neglecting whereof authoritie Theopompe king of Macedon and obedience easily waxe cold The other is iustice whereby their lawes ordinaunces giftes pardons and alienations be moderated and tempered The Ephores were certeine counsellers in the Lacedaemonians common weale which had the controllment among other things of the kings doings if hee did ought amisse contrarie to the lawes and without whose aduise the king could do nothing c. And the which the bountie and wisedome of our Princes hath not béen accustomed to accompt so much bridles as firme pillers vpon the whiche their authoritie is the surelier stayed to be thereby the firmer and more durable As Theopompe said vnto his wife who was offended because he endured himselfe to be brideled and kept vnder by the Ephores and reproched him that through his cowardize he should leaue the