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A10957 The English creede consenting vvith the true, auncient, catholique, and apostolique Church in al points, and articles of religion, which euerie Christian is to know and beleeue that would be saued. The second part, in most loyal manner to the glorie of God, credit of our Church, and displaieng of al hæresies, and errors, both olde and newe, contrarie to the faith, subscribed vnto by Thomas Rogers. Allowed by auctoritie.; English creede. Part 2 Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616. 1587 (1587) STC 21227; ESTC S116387 55,407 97

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in other places of the reformed Church name lie in the Confes. of VVittem art 32. Sueuin art 15. Sound in iudgment therefore theie are not VVhich being not of the Church of Christ wil notwithstanding take vpon them to iudg yea to condemne the doctrine of the Church of God as do The Machiauils The Iewes The Turkes The Papists The Fam. of Loue. The Anab. VVhich hold that the Pope alone hath power To iudg al men and matters but maie be iudged of none To make reuoke at his p●●su●e what articles of Religion him listeth and that without controlment VVhich suppose there is No iudgment but in the Clergie so called None auctoritie to determine of controuersies in Religion but by the bookes of the dead Fathers Doctors Schole men as Th●● Aquinas ●co●●● c. 4 To interpret the word of God is à peculiar blessing giuē by God onelie to the church or companie of the faithful though not to al and euerie of them For Saith our Sauiour Of men in general No man knoweth the Sonne but the Father neither knoweth anie man the Father but the Sonne and he to whom the Sonne wil reueile him Mat. 11. 27. Of his faithful disciples It is giuen to you to know the secrets of heauen but to them it is not giuen Matth. 13 11. Saith S. Paul vnto the church at Corinth The manifestation of the Spirit is giuen to euerie man to profit withal For to one is giuen by the Spirit the worde of wisedome c. And to another prophecie 1. Cor. 12. 7 c. If anie thing be reueiled to another that sitteth by let the first hold his peace 1. Cor. 14. 30. The Apostles Iames and Iohn do write vnto al the Church or people of God If anie man lacke wisdome let him aske of God Iam. 1 5. Ye haue an ointment from him that is holie and yee haue knowne al things c ye know the truth c ye need not that anie man teach you 1. Iohn 2. ver 20 21 27. Hereunto subscribe the Churches in Heluet. Confes. 2. c. 7. Bohem. Confes. c. 1. VVittē Confes. c. 30. Al of vs iointlie opposing our selues Against those men which thinke that to expound the word of God is so easie à matter as anie student indued with à good natural wit by diligence maie do the same Against them that teach how to interpret or expound the Scriptures is too hard à thing for anie mortal man to attaine vnto such VVas Iohannes de VVessalia Are manie of the Anabaptists Against the fam of Loue who though they grant some can expound or open so far as is conuenient for man to know the meaning of God in his word yet that Some there saie are themselues and none other Against the Papists VVhich thinke that to interpret the holie scripture is not so much à special gift of God vpō some chosen persons as an ordinarie power annexed to the state of Popes Bishops General Councels That are so far from giuing the people of God not being of the Clergie power to expound that theie vvil not suffer them to read no not so much as to haue the Scriptures in à vulgar tongue except it be their ovvne most corrupt and barbarous translation vvhich but of late yeeres neither and that in part too is granted But for the Scripture of God in place theie obtruded Festiuals Legends Rosaries Horaries Psal●eries of our Ladie 5 Forsomuch as no prophecie is of anie priuate motion 2. Pet. 1. 20. and whatsoeuer interpretation man giueth not agreeing to Th'analogie of faith which S. Paul from God gaue in commandement to be obserued Rom. 12. 6. is à priuate interpretation special heed is to be had that one place of Scripture be so expounded as it agree with another and al to the proportion of faith This do the Churches protestant so like of as theie approue the same by publique Subscription as maie appeare in the Confession of Heluet. 1. art 2. Heluet. 2. c 2. France art 7. Saxon. art 1. VVittem ca. 30. 31. 33. Sueauia art 1. This wil not be granted of the Antichristian synagogues whereof Some thinke that the Scripture may be expounded in what sense and to what purpose we wil as the Helchesaits Papists among whome theie be which from this opiniō do tearme the most holie word of God in reproch A shipmā● hoase A leaden rule A nose of waxe Some condemne al interpretation of the word as vnnecessarie theie being taught as theie saie of God himsēlfe such are the Libertines Some depend vpon visions and Reuelations as the Euthusiasts Anabaptists Some dislike of the literal calling it à Grammatical sense and so prefer the Allegorical exposition that theie cal it the spiritual sense of Gods word and therbie make vvhat them list of the Scriptures most monstrouslie as the Originists Fam. of Loue Some vvil haue of euerie place of Scripture an exposition Analogical Allegorical Historical Moral As the curious Thomists Monches Some are addicted to an interpretation vvhich theie cal mystical and prophetical as the B●●●ardists Some thinke th'interpretation vvhich the Church of Rome maketh of the Scripture vvhatsoeuer it be is the od and the onelie true sense of Gods vvord as Harding doth Some deeme that as the Church by time doth alter so th'interpretation of the Scripture also maie varie vvhereby that vvhich in Th'apostles time vvas à truth in theis daies shal be an error and contrarivvise in this error vvas Cardinal Cusanus 6 Though the church hath power to heare determine in controuersies of saith as alreadie hath bine prooued yet hath the Church auctoritie nei ther to iudge the worde of God not to iudge otherwise than the word of God doth iudg For it is said To the church Novve I besceche you brethren marke thē diligentlie which cause diuision and offences contrarie to the doctrine which ye learned and auoid them Rom. 16. 7. Heare him euen Christ Math 17. 5. To him giue al the Prophets vvitnesce Act. 10. 43. Search the Scriptures Iohn 5. 39. VVhosoeuer transgresceth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God 2. Iohn vers 9. Yee are no more straungers and forreners c. and are built vpon the foundation of Th'apostles and Prophets c. Ephes. 2 19. Heereby shal yee knowe the spirite of God c. 1. Iohn 4. 2. Of the holie Scripture The worde is the truth Iohn 17. 17. The whol Scripture c is profitable to teach to improue to correct to instruct in righteousnes that the man of God maie be absolute c. 2. Tim. 6. ver 16. 17. They haue Moses and the Prophets let them hear them Luk. 16. 29. VVee haue also à most sure vvorde of the Prophets to the which ye do wel that yee take heede c. 2. Pet. 1. 19. If anie man teache otherwise consenteth not to the wholsome wordes of our L. I. Christ and to the doctrine which is according to godlines he is pust vp
knoweth nothing c. 1. Tim. 6. v. 3. c. Thus thinke vve of the Scriptures and of the Churche So vvith vs do other Churches Confes of Heluet 2. cap. 1. Bohem cap. 1. Fran. art 5. Flan. art 7. VVit tem art 30 31. 32. Sax. art 11. Yet al of vs doe grant that the Churche As à faithful witnes maie yea of necescitie must testifie to the world vvhat hath bine the doctrine of God his people from time to time But be it far from vs that we should euer somuch as thinke which the Papistes vvil not sticke to write and say that The Church is to iudge the Scripture and not the Scripture the Church The Scripture is not of the escence of the Church for vvithout it à Church mai● be thought and veri● vvel So said Cusanus à Cardinal It had gonne better vvith the Church had there bine no scripture at al. The scripture because as they say It is vnperfect cannot Be the iudge It is obscure maie not Be the iudge It is ambiguous ought not Be the iudge He is an haereticke that cleaueth to the Scriptures as did Horstatus Such as bare witnesce vnto the truth By the shedding of their bloud in the daies of Q Marie are not martyrs but murtherets of them selues In this time By the sword are tyrans By life and doctrine be heretikes As á trustie register is to keepe and make knowen what the vvord of god which it hath receiued is This carefullie hath bine performed Before the worde vvas vvritten by the Patriarches After the vvord vvas commited to writing Before Christe his incarnation by the Iewes In christe his life time Luk. 4. 16. c Act. 13. 27. Act. 15 21. In the primitiue church 2. Cor 3. 15. 2. cor 8. 18. Colos. 3. 16. From Th'apostles time by the godlie Christians in th'uniuersal world This carefulnes in keepinge the vvord of God de clareth That the mother Churche of Rome is not the onely keeper of the holy write How cursedly theie offende vvhich so greatly esteeme The Ethiks of Aristotle as the S. scripture The Ods of Pindar as the Psalmes of Dauid The writings of men as the word● of God 7 Of the people of God nothing must be obtruded vpon the Church to be beleeued as necessarie vnto saluatiō which is either contrarie or besides the worde of God So saith the scripture Deut. 4. 2. Prou. 30. 6 E●●k 20. vers 18. 19. 1. Cor. 3. 11. Gal. 1. 8. Gal 3. 15. Ephe. 4. 14 Col. 1. 23. Heb. 13. 9. 2. Iohn v. 9. 10. Reu. 22. 18 So vvitnes the Churches reformed Confes. Heluet. 2. art 2. Heluet. 1. artic 4. Basil. art 10. Bohem. c. 1 France art 5. Fland. ar 7 Saxon. art 1. VVittem cap. 30. 33 Sueuia art 1. VVhat soeuer is grounded thereon though not by expres tearmes to be red therin we doe reuerendlie embrace This maketh vs not to denie In doctrine The Consubstantialitie of our S. Christ with the Father and the holie Ghost as the Arians did A trinitie of persons in the Godhead vvith the Sabellians The iustification of faith onelie with the Papists The baptisme of Infantes with Anabaptists In ceremonies anie thing that tendeth vnto Comlines Order Edification But from the hart vve abhor vvhatsoeuer agreeth not with the cannon of the Scripture nor is grounded thereon Hence detest we Al the old haereuks The phatisies The Escees The Sadduces The Simoniās The Menandeans The Ebeonits The Cerinthians The Gnostikes The Valentinians The Martians c. with The newe prophets of Basilides The manifestatiōs of Marcian The misteries of the Manichies The Idolaea of the Scithians The Symbonia of Th'archōtikes The Cabala of the Iewes The Alcaran of the Turkes The Decretals of the Popes Al were hae●etiks vvith their curssed opiniōs The Anabaptists of them namelie The Daui-geo● gain● The Libertines The Viteleis The Nicholaitans of Harrie Nicholas Papistes wherof Some commaunded that all the lawes of the Pope shoulde bee taken as confirmed by the mouth of God himselfe so did Pope Agatho the first Some write as Busgrad that if the pope beleue there is no life to com as som Popes haue done wee must beleue it as an article of our faith and if the Pope carrie innumerable soules to hel with him yet he maie not be iudged so thought Pope Boniface the 8. Some haue published à newe Gospel called Euangeli●m aeternum spiritus S. which some saie doth so far excel the gospel of Christ as the ca●nel surpasceth the shel the Sun the Moone and the light darknes 21. ARTICLE Of the auctoritie of generall Councels GEneral Councels 1 maie not be gathered together with-out the commaundement and wil of Princes And when theie be gathered together 2 for as much as theie be an assemblie of men whereof al be not gouerned with the Spirit word of God theie maie erre and some-times haue erred 3 euen in things pertaining vnto God Wherefore 4 thinges ordained by them as necessarie vnto saluation haue neither strength nor auctoritie vnlesse it maie be declared that theie be taken out of holie Scripture The Propositions 1 General Councels must be gathered together by the commaundement and wil of Princes 2 General Councels maie erre 3 General Councels haue erred euen in great matters of Religion 4 The things ordained by general Councels are so far to be embraced and beleeued as theie are consonant to Gods holie word 1 Great is the povver and auctoiti● of Kinges and Princes by the word of God For as the defence of Religion is committed vnto thē so must they see that al men do their duties That theis thinges maie the better be performed they are as iust occasion is offered not as men vnder the power of others to summon but as supreme gouernors within their territories and dominions to commaund al sortes of men to meete together and that either to th'inplanting of the truth where it is not or to the supprescing of sin errors idolatrie and superstition where or in whom soeuer it doth arise or is rooted Such Councels were holden In the time of the Mosaical gouernment by the commaundement of the most godlie Kinges Asa. 2. Chro. 15 9. c. Ezekiah 2. Chr. 29. 4 c. Iosiah 1. Chro. 34. 29. c. Since the Gospel hath bine receaued into Kingdomes and common-weales by Christian Princes and Emperors who gathered Councels General so called was the Councel of Nice by Constantinus Magnus Constantinople by Theodosius the elder Ephesus by Theodosius the yonger Calcedon by Marcian National and prouincial such for al were held at By the wil of Charles the Great Franco●urt Rhems Turon Cabilon Arelot Moguntia Auernia by Theodorit Matiscon by Gnutranus By ●hil debert Aurelia Paris And neuer yet hath there bine à councel either general or national either publique or priuate I onlie except the Councels held by the holie Apostles in à troblesome state time of the church when as yet ther were no
Matth. 8 14. Paul Phil 4 3. and the rest of Th'apostles 1. Cor. 9 5. which vvere al maried men Iohn Th'auangelist onelie except as some do suppose The syncere churches of God both by practise do honor by writings commend the wedded state of ecclesiastical Minister● Confes. of Heluet. 2. ca. ●9 Heluet. 1. ar 37. Basil. art 10. sect 1. 2. Bohem. c. 9. 19. France art 14. Ausb art 4. 5. touching abuses Saxon. ar 18. 21 VVitt. c. 21. 26. Sueaue cap. 12. And no Protestant church is of the mind of the Vigilantians that al and euerie one of the Cleargie is necessarilie to be maried or not to be admitted for à Minister Of the Papists wherof some do say that From Th'apostles time it was not lawful for anie Priest to marie Ma●oranus report The 3 Orders Of Deacons Of Sub deacōs Of Priests Are bo●d to chastitie that is not to marie After Orders taken to marie It is not lawful It is to turne backe vnto Satan It is Apostacie None maie be made à Priest though he wil vovv à single life if hee haue bin not à whoremonger but à maried man Mariage is not à Sacrament yet Sacred persons maie not marie For à Priest to plaie the whoremonger it is à lesse offence than to take an honest woman to wife The blasphemie of Pighius The darnel of the Rhemish Seminaries 2 As maie the ministers Ecclesiastical so are al other men women to marrie together at theire owne discretion in the fear of god So faith the spirit of god in the holy scripture vnto al men womē in all ages Bring forth fruit and multiplie fil th' earth Gen. 1 28. Mariage is honourable among al men and the bed vndefiled Heb. 13 4. 1. Co● 7 2. T' auoid fornicatiō Let euerie man haue his wife Let euerie woman haue her husband If theie can not absteine let them marie 1. Cor 7 9. Particularlie because most questions are about them marie maie Bishops 1. Tim. 3. 2. c. Elders Tit. 1 9. Deacons 1. Tim. 3 v. 11 12. Virgins 1. Cor. 7 v. 28 36. VVidows 1. Cor. 7 ver 8 9. 1. Tim. 5 14. In saieng that Christians may marie at their discretion the meaning is not that anie marie if theie thinke good within the degrees of kinred and affinitie prohibited by wholesome lawes VVithout the consent of parents or other in the room of parents if theie bevnder tuition To other ends thā God hath prefixed So testifie the reformed Churches by their publique writings Confes. of Heluet. 1. ar 37 Heluet. 2. c. 29. Bohem. cap. 19. France art 24. Ausb tuching abuses ar 4. 5. Saxon. art 18. VVitt. cap. 21. 26. Sueaue cap. 22. Nothing liked and instituted of God hath euerie way bin more inuaded than holie Matrimonie For Some vtterlie condem● mariage as The Gnostikes The Hieracites The Priscillianites The Montanists The Saturnians Th'apostolikes who excōmunicated out of their assemblies al maried folkes Some alowed the wedded life yet Not To euerie state or calling Betweene spiritual kinsfolks as The godfather the goddaughter The godmother and the godson The god-brother and the godfather c. As the Papists Alow theie no man to marie-again his first wife beeing dead such haeretiks were the Catharans Originists Tertulianists Theie thinke that al wiues should be cōmon th' error of the Nicalaitans Dauigeor gians Theie are of opinion that neither the husband should knovve his wife nor the wife her husbande as man and wife are to know one th' other A fancie of Th'abeloites Theie wil not marie according to Gods word but think that one man at one and the same time maie haue manie wiues in which error are The Her mogenians The Turkes The Ochinites 33 ARTICLE Of Excommunicate persons how theie are to be auoided THe person 1 which by open denownciation of the Churche is rightlie cut-of from th'unitie of the Church and Excommunicated ought to be taken of the whole multitude of the faythful as are heathen and Publicane 2 vntil he be openlie reconciled by Poenaunce and receiued into the Church by à iudge that hath auctoritie thereunto The Propositions 1 The person that is rightlie by the Church Excommunicate is of al the faithful to be taken for an Heathen and Publicane 2 An Excommunicate person truelie repenting is to be receiued into the Church againe 1 The most seuere vttermost punishmēt that the visible Church can inflict vppon the vviked and vngodlie o● this world is excommunication à part of discipline to be exercised that vpō most vrgent occasions and it is Cōmended to the Church euen by God himself who in his word hath prescribed VVho are to excomunicate ●●●elie such as haue auctoritie in the Church Matth. 18 vet 17 1. Cor. 5 ver 4 5. 2. Cor. 3. ver 13 14. 2. Thes. 3. 6. VVho are to be excommunicate euen tvvo sorts of mē wherof Some p●ru●rt the sounde doctrine of the truth ● ●im ● 20 as Hymeneus Alexander Some are de●iled with notorious wickednes as that incestuous person 1. Cor 5 1. The maner of proceeding in excommunication name lie First if the fault bee not notoriouslie knowen by gentle admonition that Once or twice giuen Tit ● 10 Matt. 18 15. VVith the spirit of me●knesse Gal. 6 1. Euen as to à brother 2. Thes. 3 15. Next if nothing wil serue and the crime and person be verie offensiue By open reprehension 1. Tim. 5 20. By publike sentence of the church To put him awaie from the cōpanie of the faithful 1. Co. 5 ●3 To deliuer him vnto Satan 1 Cor. 5 5. To denunce him An heathen A publican A cursed A man so cut off frō the church and excommunicated is of euerie man to bee auoided Rom. 16 17 and Not to be eaten with al 1. Cor. 5 11. Not to bee companied withal 1. Cor 5 8. Not to bee receaued into house 2. Ioh. v 10. Adue● sa●ies vnto this excommunicatiō of christ bee al theie VVhich simplie condemne al excommunication saieng the vviked are not to be excommunicate such vvere the Paulicians VVhich excommunicat either vvhome theie should not or to à wrong ende So Th'apostolikes did excommunicate al that were married and for no cause but for that theie vvere married Christ prophecied that his disciples and faithful people should be excommunicated Iohn 16. ● Dio●●ephes did thrust out the brethren out of the Church 3. Iohn ver 10. So The Papistes did vvhen theie excommunicated and that being dead the dead bodies of VVicklie● Bucer P. Fagius The Papistes do in thundering theire Buls of excommunication against the most godlie Kinges Queenes Princes States Men. VVomen Theie do which exercise excommunication not of anie conscience but for gaine where it commeth that excommunication is Not regarded of inferiors Derided of Superiors VVhich sauour the right excommunication but exercise it not beeing bound thereunto Theis are to be rebuked as was The Corinthians of S. paul 1. Cor. 5. v. 1. 2.