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A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine
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Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew.
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so_o comprehend_v both_o that_o order_n only_o will_v make_v a_o man_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o import_v distinction_n in_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n only_o will_v make_v he_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o impli_v distinction_n in_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o if_o he_o have_v both_o then_o by_o both_o title_n he_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n to_o his_o other_o demand_n n._n 4._o he_o be_v also_o answer_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n chap._n 5._o n._n 18._o and_o 21._o for_o if_o the_o four_o lesser_a order_n be_v of_o the_o institutition_n of_o the_o church_n as_o some_o author_n cite_v by_o m._n doctor_n affirm_v than_o they_o who_o be_v under_o subdeacons_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o regard_n of_o order_n by_o the_o church_n law_n and_o institution_n and_o not_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o institution_n but_o if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a institution_n than_o these_o minister_n who_o be_v under_o subdeacons_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o regard_n of_o order_n by_o the_o divine_a institution_n and_o see_v that_o regulars_n who_o be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n subdeacons_n nor_o accolytes_n etc._n etc._n have_v neither_o order_n nor_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o church_n as_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n have_v they_o can_v as_o regulars_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o therefore_o if_o a_o abbot_n have_v only_o primam_fw-la tonsuram_fw-la the_o first_o tonsure_v which_o be_v no_o order_n although_o he_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o his_o monk_n yet_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n because_o he_o have_v neither_o order_n nor_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n but_o only_a regular_n and_o so_o a_o abbot_n as_o abbot_n though_o he_o have_v ordinary_a power_n in_o his_o religious_a order_n be_v not_o so_o much_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o a_o bishop_n delegated_a because_o a_o abbot_n not_o bishop_n priest_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n at_o all_o but_o the_o delegated_a bishop_n have_v both_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n and_o so_o by_o both_o way_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o therefore_o s._n denys_n as_o we_o have_v see_v exclude_v all_o regulars_n from_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o yet_o some_o of_o they_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o other_o monk_n wherefore_o regulars_n must_v not_o take_v this_o in_o evil_a part_n for_o i_o give_v they_o as_o much_o as_o s._n denys_n and_o learned_a regulars_n give_v they_o and_o will_v give_v they_o alfo_o this_o dignity_n to_o be_v of_o the_o govern_n and_o perfect_a hierarchy_n if_o either_o christ_n or_o his_o church_n have_v give_v it_o unto_o they_o m._n nicholas_n that_o religious_a superior_n as_o such_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n s._n bernard_n cite_v by_o m._n doctor_n chap._n 1._o n._n 17._o do_v express_o teach_v etc._n etc._n n._n 5._o the_o reply_n s._n bernard_n be_v explicate_v i_o answer_v that_o s._n bernard_n must_v be_v so_o explicate_v 4._o s._n bernard_n l._n 3._o de_fw-la consid_fw-la c._n 4._o as_o that_o he_o do_v not_o contradict_v s._n denys_n from_o who_o as_o mr_n nicholas_n in_o this_o true_o say_v q._n 6._o n._n 1._o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_o treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n certain_a it_o be_v that_o s._n denys_n and_o his_o translatour_n and_o interpreter_n do_v give_v not_o place_n to_o regulars_n amongst_o who_o some_o be_v abbot_n in_o the_o hierarchy_n but_o do_v place_n they_o under_o the_o clergy_n and_o hierarchy_n and_o only_o about_o the_o laity_n and_o therefore_o perchance_o s._n bernard_n put_v abbot_n amongst_o they_o that_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n not_o because_o they_o be_v proper_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n but_o because_o they_o be_v eminent_a member_n in_o the_o church_n and_o have_v some_o resemblance_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o high_a rank_n in_o their_o religious_a order_n with_o those_o that_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o if_o i_o will_v take_v hold_n of_o every_o thing_n as_o m._n nicholas_n use_v to_o do_v i_o can_v confirm_v this_o because_o s._n bernard_n in_o that_o place_n placeth_z abbot_n after_o priest_n 4._o s._n ber._n l._n 3._o de_fw-la consid_fw-la c._n 4._o or_o else_o s._n bernard_n reken_v abbot_n amongst_o they_o that_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n because_o in_o his_o time_n most_o of_o they_o be_v priest_n many_o have_v episcopal_a authority_n in_o some_o thing_n 15._o bel._n to_o 1._o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr council_n c._n 15._o and_o many_o be_v perchance_o then_o as_o according_a to_o bellarmine_n they_o be_v now_o admit_v by_o privilege_n or_o custom_n to_o have_v their_o voice_n in_o general_a counsel_n and_o so_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o we_o shall_v hereafter_o in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o question_n declare_v 31._o now_o whereas_o m._n nicholas_n in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v that_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o complain_v of_o m._n doctor_n deal_v in_o allege_v s._n bernard_n as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v perturb_v when_o abbot_n be_v subtract_v from_o the_o bishop_n jurisdiction_n whereas_o s._n bernard_n in_o the_o very_a same_o place_n which_o m._n doctor_n cite_v do_v in_o express_a word_n approve_v the_o exemption_n of_o abbot_n from_o bishop_n and_o only_o dislike_v exemption_n procure_v out_o of_o a_o spirit_n of_o disobedience_n pride_n and_o ambition_n whereas_o i_o say_v he_o say_v he_o have_v reason_n to_o complain_v on_o m._n doctor_n it_o will_v prove_v that_o m._n doctor_n have_v reason_n to_o complain_v on_o he_o in_o make_v he_o say_v more_o than_o he_o do_v for_o do_v not_o s._n bernard_n say_v as_o much_o as_o m._n doctor_n impute_v to_o he_o do_v he_o not_o complain_v in_o that_o chapter_n that_o the_o order_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v then_o perturb_v by_o exemption_n have_v he_o not_o these_o complain_v word_n subtrahuntur_fw-la abbates_n episcopis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la archiepiscopis_fw-la archiepiscopi_fw-la patriarchis_fw-la sen_fw-la primatibus_fw-la bona_fw-la ne_fw-la species_n hac_fw-la mirum_fw-la si_fw-la excusari_fw-la queatvel_n opus_fw-la sic_fw-la fac_fw-la titando_fw-la probatis_fw-la vos_fw-la habere_fw-la plenitudinem_fw-la potestatis_fw-la sed_fw-la iustitiae_fw-la forte_fw-fr non_fw-la ita_fw-la facit_fw-la be_v hoc_fw-la quia_fw-la potestis_fw-la sed_fw-la virum_fw-la &_o debeatis_fw-la quaestio_fw-la est_fw-la honorum_fw-la ac_fw-la dignitatum_fw-la gradus_fw-la &_o ordines_fw-la quibusque_fw-la suos_fw-la seruare_fw-la positi_fw-la estis_fw-la non_fw-la invidere_fw-la abbot_n be_v subtract_v from_o bishop_n bishop_n from_o archbishop_n arch-bishop_n from_o patriarch_n or_o primate_fw-la and_o these_o word_n only_o m._n doctor_n allege_v but_o s._n bernard_n as_o we_o have_v see_v go_v on_o further_a bona_fw-la ne_fw-la species_n hac_fw-la be_v this_o a_o good_a show_v forsooth_o if_o even_o the_o work_n itself_o can_v be_v excuse_v by_o so_o do_v you_o he_o speak_v to_o pope_n eugenius_n prove_v that_o you_o have_v the_o fullness_n of_o power_n but_o perchance_o not_o so_o of_o justice_n you_o do_v this_o because_o you_o can_v but_o whether_o you_o shall_v there_o be_v a_o question_n wherefore_o if_o s._n bernard_n in_o speak_v thus_o much_o against_o exemption_n to_o wit_n which_o have_v no_o lawful_a cause_n do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v power_n and_o just_a cause_n to_o exempte_v abbot_n and_o monastery_n from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n much_o less_o can_v m._n nicholas_n infer_v against_o m._n doctor_n who_o say_v not_o so_o much_o as_o he_o that_o he_o be_v against_o all_o exemption_n but_o as_o s._n bernard_n for_o all_o those_o word_n do_v allow_v of_o exemption_n when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n as_o when_o a_o monastery_n from_o the_o beginning_n have_v be_v exempte_n so_o might_n m._n doctor_n and_o so_o he_o do_v m._n nicholas_n mauclerus_n also_o who_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o 10._o chapter_n n._n 23._o style_v a_o learned_a doctor_n of_o sorbon_n compare_v superior_n in_o religion_n to_o the_o principality_n secular_a pastor_n inferior_n to_o bishop_n to_o archangel_n and_o priest_n not_o curate_n to_o angel_n n._n 5._o the_o reply_n mauclerus_n mean_v only_o that_o superior_n in_o religion_n have_v some_o similitude_n with_o principality_n 32._o m._n nicholas_n now_o will_v place_v superior_n of_o religion_n not_o only_o in_o the_o hierarchy_n but_o in_o one_o of_o the_o high_v rank_n also_o for_o that_o he_o say_v mauclerus_n compare_v they_o to_o principality_n and_o i_o also_o honour_v they_o not_o only_o for_o their_o religious_a state_n but_o also_o for_o their_o dignity_n in_o religion_n but_o if_o s._n denys_n as_o we_o have_v see_v exclude_v all_o regulars_n amongst_o who_o be_v abbot_n from_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o place_v they_o under_o the_o clergy_n and_o hierarchy_n and_o above_o the_o laiety_n they_o can_v not_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n 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